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Elon Musk - what are your thoughts?

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Participants Austin Lopez4dustyharbor7Ashley Vaughn79nimblescoutAlex Foster6Larry Lewis2Betty Hill82placidjackal97copperridge912James Taylor51gentlemason2gentleskipper18Brian Martin9silentpuma25Laura Chavez78Melissa Gonzalez9Maria Kelly6Emily Myers78Noah AndersonMichael Fox46Frank Lee6slyhound5rustymoose54Karen White13
Austin Lopez4 Austin Lopez4 MemberOP
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joined Jul 2008
#61 ·
The only thing that's gonna save me is some serious isolation mode, nothing else 🙂

Don't even ask 🙂
Michael Fox46 Michael Fox46 Active Member
86 messages
joined Apr 2005
#62 ·
cudim_se said:Honestly, I think all I need is some serious focus training, nothing else will work for me. 🙂

Don't even go there 🙂


What about some magical soup? 😁

Has anyone actually tried it or had any luck?

I actually started running yesterday... 😁
Melissa Gonzalez9 Melissa Gonzalez9 Newcomer
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joined Mar 2004
#63 ·
Silver Shadow said:Magic soup? 😁

Anyone actually tried this?

I just started running yesterday.😁


My neighbor lost a solid 45 pounds on that diet, only to gain every single ounce back... Look, the diet works—you lose weight—but the results don't last because you aren't building actual eating habits. You eventually just go back to how things were. Plus, it's brutal. You're basically starving yourself. After two days, you'll be sick of that soup, you'll quit, and then you'll end up eating absolutely everything in sight just to compensate......

It's true. These crash diets look great because you see changes in a day or two, but they're just a temporary fix...

There’s also a major downside. Once you push your body through those extreme eating cycles, it starts hoarding every calorie because it thinks a famine is coming. That makes every subsequent diet feel slower and harder to stick to...

Staying on a diet isn't the hard part. Anyone can skip meals for a couple of weeks. The real challenge—the thing we actually have to learn—is how to eat in moderation...
Michael Fox46 Michael Fox46 Active Member
86 messages
joined Apr 2005
#64 ·
Melissa Gonzalez9 said:My neighbor actually dropped about 45 pounds on this diet, only to gain every single ounce right back... look, the diet works—you definitely lose weight—but the results are just short-lived because you aren't building any actual healthy eating habits. Eventually, you just drift right back to your old ways... plus, it’s honestly pretty brutal to stick to because you're basically starving yourself... after two days, even the thought of that soup makes you feel nauseous, so you stop eating it altogether, and then you end up eating nothing at all.... which leads to that moment where you just snap and binge on whatever happens to be in the pantry......

It's true. Those crash diets are so tempting because you see changes in just a day or two, but those effects don't last...

There's also this major side effect—once you've pushed your body through a few rounds of such intense, rigid eating, your metabolism starts playing defense. Your body begins storing every single calorie because it's bracing itself for the next period of starvation.... so with every new diet you try, the weight loss just gets slower and slower...

Staying on a diet isn't the hard part; anyone can choose to skip meals for a couple of weeks. What's actually difficult—and what we really need to master—is learning how to eat in moderation...

I'm with you, Melissa Gonzalez9. But honestly, I really have to stick with this since starting my jogging routine has felt so good. So, yeah, I'll have my soup and go for my run. Maybe some fruit here and there, too. That's the plan. I think I can pull it off. Once I reach my goal, I don't plan on going overboard or just eating junk and quitting my workouts entirely.
Melissa Gonzalez9 Melissa Gonzalez9 Newcomer
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joined Mar 2004
#65 ·
It’s a good move to get started, honestly. Just... try not to go overboard right out of the gate. You don't want to hit a wall mid-run. If you have a juicer lying around, maybe stick to some fresh fruit juice—nothing with added sugar. A little orange, lemon, maybe some apple or pear. It actually helps quite a bit.

And look, if you slip up, don't make it a whole thing. Don't beat yourself up. Even if you're on this new diet and end up grabbing a piece of chocolate, you're still probably eating less than you were before. Just keep going. Good luck!👍 👍 👍
Michael Fox46 Michael Fox46 Active Member
86 messages
joined Apr 2005
#66 ·
Melissa Gonzalez9 said:Well, starting out with that is a solid move. Just... hey, watch yourself so you don't totally crash mid-run, okay? If you have a juicer lying around, maybe try some fresh fruit juice—nothing with added sugar. Orange, lemon, maybe even some apple or pear... it really helps keep your energy up.

And look, if you slip up once in a while, don't be too hard on yourself. Even if you're sticking to the diet and end up grabbing a piece of chocolate, you're still eating less than you were before this whole thing started. You've got this! Good luck!!!👍 👍 👍


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Betty Hill82 Betty Hill82 Member
49 messages
joined Nov 2004
#67 ·
Looks like the debate is heating up. 🙂

My mom actually lost 30 pounds on this diet (though she did it in waves). And the best part? That fat stayed gone.

She talked me into trying it last week, but I tapped out after five days. It’s just not my thing... though I have to say, that soup is incredible. I’m definitely planning on making it more often. 🙂

I’m still hitting the pavement, staying active, walking a ton, and trying to eat clean...

The scale is fine, but I notice the difference more in my clothes. 🙂 These pants don't feel tight anymore!

Wishing everyone huge success—catch you all next time!

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Noah Anderson Noah Anderson Member
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joined Apr 2004
#68 ·
Sarah Allen51 said:What about those magic detox soups? I’ve heard they actually work.

Personally, I don't eat much, and I try to stay active by running.😎

Honey, there’s no such thing as magic. Someone once told me that the actual number of calories you eat isn't the whole story—it's all about whether you burn them off!

If you aren't burning many calories through activity, then you shouldn't be taking them in either. If you match the two, the weight won't pile on.
In my book, the most effective way to torch calories is sex. And hey, some people argue that solo sessions count too.

Checking your kilaza every day isn't a bad habit to have.
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P.s. I like your signature.🙏
Michael Fox46 Michael Fox46 Active Member
86 messages
joined Apr 2005
#69 ·
Noah Anderson said:P.S. I really love your signature. It’s got such a nice touch!🙏


Transaction for Noah Anderson. 😉 😉 .

So, anyway... does anyone happen to have a good recipe for that soup? I stumbled upon one online that uses mushrooms, but if I remember correctly, reheating mushrooms isn't exactly the healthiest move. I think I’d much rather stick to that first version we talked about. If anyone has it handy, could you please shoot me a DM or just drop the recipe right here? 😁
Noah Anderson Noah Anderson Member
37 messages
joined Apr 2004
#70 ·
Sarah Allen51 said:Noah Anderson's transaction 😉 😉.

Anyway, does anyone happen to have a recipe for that soup? I stumbled upon one that uses mushrooms, but if I remember correctly, reheating mushrooms isn't exactly the healthiest move. So, I’m really looking for that original version. If someone could shoot me a DM or just drop the recipe here, I’d really appreciate it. 😁

Forget the mushrooms! They burn calories!!!👍
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Michael Fox46 Michael Fox46 Active Member
86 messages
joined Apr 2005
#71 ·
Noah Anderson said:Eat up those mushrooms! You're burning calories!!!👍
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Oh, come on, Noah Anderson, you put mushrooms in the soup anyway! And trust me, I am definitely burning calories. Between drinking four liters of water today—and then immediately flushing most of it out, haha—and that long walk over to the 13th Street apartments, I've been plenty active. 😁 😁
Noah Anderson Noah Anderson Member
37 messages
joined Apr 2004
#72 ·
Sarah Allen51 said:Oh please, Noah Anderson, you put the mushrooms right into the broth. I'm burning calories here. Today alone, I drank four liters of water and flushed three of them out after walking all the way down to 13th Street.😁 😁

Right, sure, she walks down to 13th Street. Burning calories! It doesn't matter how much you eat if you don't burn it all off; otherwise, the kilaza just keeps climbing. And don't forget: walking down to 13th Street burns about the same amount of calories as a single round of sex!
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Michael Fox46 Michael Fox46 Active Member
86 messages
joined Apr 2005
#73 ·
Noah Anderson said:Exactly! Just keep sipping those drinks up to 13 ounces. It’s all about burning those calories! No matter how much you consume, you really have to torch them all, otherwise—well, the kilaza starts creeping up. And don't forget my little tip: drinking up to 13 ounces burns just as many calories as a good round of intimacy!
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Oh, I know, I totally know what you mean 😉 😉
Frank Lee6 Frank Lee6 Member
42 messages
joined Oct 2005
#74 ·
Melissa Gonzalez9,

The body doesn't actually "store" food. It only stores excess carbohydrates in the form of fat.

Your body has no way of knowing how much you plan to eat later on. Only surpluses go into storage, and specifically those from carbs. Therefore, if you aren't overeating during a single meal and you aren't overdoing the carbohydrates, there is simply no way for it to turn into body fat.

@lorduke,

If you're suggesting that working out builds muscle while simultaneously burning fat, then you've got it wrong. Those two things don't work in inverse proportion to one another.

It is entirely possible to gain muscle mass while gaining fat at the same time; conversely, it can happen without it (for instance, a slightly overweight person will likely pack on muscle faster than someone who is extremely thin).

Even a bodybuilder can put on fat if they consume an excess of calories.

Muscle mass is built through anaerobic exercise, whereas fat is lost through aerobic activity.

Ultimately, diet is the most critical factor in weight gain or loss, rather than exercise.
Melissa Gonzalez9 Melissa Gonzalez9 Newcomer
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joined Mar 2004
#75 ·
Frank Lee6 said:Melissa Gonzalez9,

The body doesn't actually store food. It just stores excess carbohydrates by converting them into fat.

Your metabolism can't predict how much you'll eat tomorrow. Only the surplus goes into "storage," and specifically from carbs. So, if you aren't overeating in one sitting and you keep the carb count in check, there’s basically zero chance of building body fat.

Look, carbs, proteins, fats—I don't really care about the technicalities of what's being stored. All I know is my body has already done plenty of storing.😁

Fair enough. The body can't predict the future—I'll give you that. I've read that everywhere, and since you might be a nutritionist or something, I won't sit here and argue whether it's 100% true or not. But the reality is that with every new diet I try, the weight loss gets slower and slower. There's definitely a connection between my history of dieting and this plateau. Whether the body "knows" something or not isn't really the point. My point was just that these super strict diets seem to do more harm than good in the long run...

But thanks anyway. I'm always down for a new perspective.👍 🙂 👋
Frank Lee6 Frank Lee6 Member
42 messages
joined Oct 2005
#76 ·
Melissa Gonzalez9,

My apologies if I came off a bit harsh earlier. It’s just that people often pick up the wrong information and then stress themselves out over nothing, without seeing any actual results.

The issue lies with carbohydrates, not specific foods. The trouble is that while most people love sweets, they actually consume the bulk of their carbs through savory staples like grains.

If you take a closer look at your recent comments, you might see the pattern yourself. You mentioned you've put on quite a bit of weight, and that with every new diet—of which I'm sure you've tried many—you find yourself losing less and less.
So, the issue isn't the diet itself, nor is it your metabolism (though you might be one of those people who gains weight more easily); rather, it is your overall eating habits.

You are consistently eating the wrong way—meaning you aren't getting enough substantial, carb-rich meals—and then you try to go on a diet as an emergency measure. Under those circumstances, one cannot expect significant results.

Instead of going on a diet or, heaven forbid, starving yourself, you really need to change your dietary patterns by adjusting both the frequency and the composition of your meals.

On a final note, I must commend you; you are absolutely right that rigorous diets often do more harm than good. No one gains weight overnight, so one shouldn't expect to lose it just as quickly. Diets that promise dramatic shifts mostly just strip water from fat cells, and that weight comes back even faster than it left.

P.S. I am not a nutritionist, but I do have some knowledge regarding the topic we are discussing.
Melissa Gonzalez9 Melissa Gonzalez9 Newcomer
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joined Mar 2004
#77 ·
Frank Lee6, you hit the nail on the head👍 I realized myself that changing eating habits is the only real way to go. But man, that’s also the hardest part. I can stick to a diet for two or three weeks without breaking a sweat—lose a few pounds easily—but then the second I stop dieting, the weight creeps right back on. So I end up dieting again. That’s basically my version of "maintaining" a normal weight... it's a flawed system, clearly, but it's the only one I've mastered. That’s why I decided to try a different approach, and honestly, I haven't had to "diet" in three months now. I haven't gained any kilaza because I started getting into some light exercise... though that isn't a perfect fix either, since if I miss even one workout, a couple of pounds show up immediately. Still, I am DONE with traditional dieting... I'm just trying to slowly learn how to actually eat properly, hopefully.

For now, I've completely cut out sweets, soda, and junk food... we'll see how things evolve from here.🙂

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slyhound5 slyhound5 Member
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joined Sep 2013
#78 ·
By the way, how many pounds are you guys actually aiming to drop? For me, losing maybe 10 or 12 would be the sweet spot so I can really get down to business. I’ve been running every single day—and let’s be real, I went from being an absolute embarrassment at the start to hitting about 1.9 miles miles a day now. Plus, I cut out all the junk food, and I don't even touch bread anyway. Since I never get home before 6 PM, I just eat one big meal that serves as both lunch and dinner. At work, I'm strictly sticking to fruit. That’s all I’ve got 👋
rustymoose54 rustymoose54 Active Member
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joined Jun 2006
#79 ·
Frank Lee6 said:...your body just stores any extra carbs you eat as fat.

If we’re going by that logic, proteins and fats basically have zero calories—which is obviously total nonsense.
Frank Lee6 Frank Lee6 Member
42 messages
joined Oct 2005
#80 ·
rustymoose54,

No one is suggesting that proteins and fats don't contain calories. In fact, fat holds the highest caloric density per gram. However, aren't carbohydrates actually the preferred energy source since the body can extract fuel from them much more efficiently than from fat?

Since our bodies cannot store proteins, minerals, or specific vitamins—unless you count muscle and bone as storage, which we certainly wouldn't want to lose volume in—must we not consume them on a daily basis?

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