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Nicole Palmer4 Nicole Palmer4 Newcomer
8 messages
joined Oct 2013
#21 ·
I agree with everything that’s been said here.
I’ll just add that the very same troll told me my conclusion was stupid and that I lacked manners; then, their post vanished at light speed. As for whether they were actually penalized, I have no idea.

Later, I made a post containing two sentences of pure irony and ended up getting a red card—nothing more, nothing less—for "trolling." 😲
The important thing is that this individual, who trolls all day every single day, hasn't received a single penalty for it—at least, I haven't seen one. Why? I don't know, and frankly, I'm curious.
Nicole Thompson2 Nicole Thompson2 Newcomer
4 messages
joined Oct 2013
#22 ·
cosmicorca5 said:Since everyone has started speaking their minds openly, I figured I’d jump in too.

I honestly cannot wrap my head around how one single individual is allowed to terrorize this entire thread for the duration of the series. This particular troll spends every single post spamming, insulting people, and throwing out provocations just to make the rest of us look like fools. It seems like everyone else gets hit with warnings or bans, or has their posts scrubbed, but if it involves the troll from Malibu, everything stays up. I’ve already voiced my frustration in the Complaints section after getting a warning myself because of her, yet she somehow dodges any accusation of being abusive. It is impossible not to walk away with the impression that this troll is being protected—and excuse me if this sounds blunt, but I’m not the only one feeling this way; almost everyone participating in this thread has noticed it. 🤷 Every time this troll ends up shooting themselves in the foot by inventing events that never actually happened just to stir the pot, all we get is some random warning that has absolutely nothing to do with the actual issue. 😕
It feels like everyone else is penalized while she remains untouchable. A perfect example wasn't even that long ago—it was during the warning before last, when a few forum members finally cornered her for repeatedly posting debunked info and blatant lies about the show's plot. Apparently, calling out those lies was deemed a "personal attack." We are all strictly forbidden from doing that, yet the troll gets a free pass? 😕

Is this not supposed to be a forum for actual discussion? Real debate requires disagreeing with one another. Are we all expected to just nod along and clap for each other like mindless drones? 🤷

I have asked several times why the obvious "chill out" comments don't result in a warning, given how much the troll insults everyone here, but I never get an answer. Anyone else who says something similar gets flagged and their posts are deleted, but because it's the troll, it's ignored.

Every single one of us has reacted to this trolling at some point—myself included—but most of us eventually decided to just ignore it. The problem is that she never stops provoking, and eventually, someone loses their cool and catches a penalty. Why hasn't this troll been dealt with permanently through a ban or some other decisive action? 😕

I apologize if I’m voicing suspicions that turn out to be unfounded, but the moderation policy on this specific thread is genuinely baffling and feels bizarre to everyone involved. Everyone on this thread keeps asking why the troll is being shielded; people have pointed this out dozens of times, yet there is zero response. We have all highlighted this systemic issue. 🤷

Adam Miller2, there wasn't any conflict over in the spoilers section. I’ve been posting there since the beginning—though not lately—but I read everything religiously, and there hasn't been any fighting or anything like that. It was likely just locked to prevent the main discussion from migrating over there.

If expressing my opinion earns me a ban or whatever, then so be it. Cheers.

I completely agree with you. I don't see any reason why you should be banned. That's the whole point of a forum—to express personal opinions.
I've only been here a few days, and it took until today to realize what a troll—or rather, a "protected" troll—actually looks like. I see those of you who have been here since the beginning handle trolls well by just ignoring them; that's the easiest way to avoid massive arguments. Unfortunately, for those of us who joined recently, it's not that easy to spot who the protected troll is. Honestly, I just hope this thread doesn't get locked because of some stupid post of mine.
I already know exactly how I’m going to handle provocateurs like that in the future. :-)
Nicole Thompson2 Nicole Thompson2 Newcomer
4 messages
joined Oct 2013
#23 ·
stormycrane3 said:Yeah, I honestly just put that poll up as a formality, or maybe just to be polite, but now that I'm looking at these results, I have to agree with @fritz—does anyone actually have an issue with keeping this thread open? 😲 😁 I’m actually pretty surprised by this outcome, seeing eleven people against it. I kind of wish I’d made the poll anonymous so I could see who was voting 😁 oh well! It was late at night, and I basically typed this out half-asleep as both a poll and a question... I was expecting a quicker response. I guess maybe people don't think the penalty is too harsh and would rather keep the topic closed? Man, what kind of question was I even asking 😂
I'm not really following... but whatever ☕

Heh... looks like someone’s getting a bit salty about how much this show is blowing up here—and clearly, the massive amount of chatter on this forum isn't sitting well with everyone. I don't get it—if people are so against having a thread for this, why did they even sign up for it in the first place? It makes zero sense. Personally, if I'm not interested in something, I just don't engage. Simple as that.
Dana Booth26 Dana Booth26 Newcomer
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joined Oct 2013
#24 ·
I’ve gone through every single post in this thread and on this topic quite thoroughly, and I’m not going to sit here and pretend that my perspective is the only right one...
but I definitely have my own take on the show and the characters. Just because I’ve lost my sympathy for Disney and don't see her evolving for the better—which is just my opinion based strictly on what I've watched and how I've processed it—doesn't mean I should be getting attacked here or within this specific discussion...
I honestly find myself wondering if everyone has actually read the previous posts. What’s the actual issue with people like me (and clearly others too) who just watch the series through a different lens? I'm not one of those people looking to start a war with anyone who disagrees with me...
Personally, I don't have an issue reading what other people think. In fact, when someone’s view is the complete opposite of mine, it actually serves as a good challenge to re-examine my own stance.
Do the people who wrote before me really believe they haven't contributed to the same kind of atmosphere in this thread...? Is everything always blamed on "the others"—those who see things differently—as if we should all be lumped into the same bucket?
I don't belong to any cliques or specific groups; what I write is simply my stance and my feelings. If my words have offended anyone, I sincerely apologize, because that was never my intention.
At the end of the day, this is a forum. The whole point, just like in anything else in life, should be about being yourself and speaking your mind. That shouldn't be seen as being narrow-minded; it should be about tolerance, respect, and the healthy exchange of ideas...
The idea that one person is at fault while everyone else is innocent is incomprehensible to me. Honestly, let whoever hasn't made mistakes throw the first stone...
The rhetoric here gets pretty scary sometimes, where people shamelessly insult every single character except Disney, and somehow that's considered funny. My personal rule is never to insult anyone's physical appearance, and that goes for Anne Hathaway too. If someone interpreted my critique of her as a personal insult, there isn't much I can do, because we all judge based on our own standards.

For instance, I have never once reported anyone for their posts, nor will I, because that’s just not how I operate. I respect everyone here and beyond. Behind these usernames are real, living people... but hey, if some people enjoy playing the moderator role, more power to them.

Is the purpose of this thread really to make sure we all think identically and bow down to one another? Not for me. I didn't come here just to be accepted or to have everyone agree with me...

It seems much easier to sit back and judge everyone else than it is to actually look in the mirror and acknowledge our own shortcomings...
Adam Miller2 Adam Miller2 Newcomer
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joined Oct 2013
#25 ·
cosmicorca5 Just so I could add or take away a few letters here and there. 👍

Nicole Thompson2 said:Heh... looks like someone’s getting a bit salty about how much this show is blowing up here—and clearly, the massive amount of chatter on this forum isn't sitting well with everyone. I don't get it—if people are so against having a thread for this, why did they even sign up for it in the first place? It makes zero sense. Personally, if I'm not interested in something, I just don't engage. Simple as that.

Honestly, there isn't much to be said about this. It’s happened before and it’ll happen again, regardless of whether anyone is AFK or not. I’ve been hanging around this forum for quite a while now, and if there’s one thing I've noticed across all sorts of threads, it's that some people just genuinely love complaining. They seem to get a weird sort of kick out of it. They’ll follow a series like a total masochist, hating every single second of it, yet somehow they still feel the need to sit there and write endless posts about how terrible everything is. I mean, hey, whatever—everyone’s entitled to their own little way of having fun, right? It’s just that I have no interest in joining in on that particular brand of misery.

I really don't want to give this troll any more oxygen or let them feel like they actually matter! Look, I get it—sometimes it’s incredibly hard to just sit there and swallow your tongue when you see posts that are completely detached from reality. It’s frustrating, right? But honestly, believe me when I say the absolute best move is to just ignore the troll entirely. If the mods aren't bothered by obvious trolling, then fine, let them have their fun!

Look, I’m telling you again: just because someone disagrees with you doesn't mean they're a troll. There's a massive difference. People with actual opposing views write out reasoned arguments and actually engage in a real debate. Trolls? They just contradict themselves every five minutes. They make stuff up that never even happened in the show, twisting scenes or characters specifically to get under everyone else's skin. It's exhausting. Most of my favorite online friends actually came from the "Demir camp"—you know, the die-hard fans of the lead—and even when we didn't see eye-to-eye, we always kept things civil and backed up our points. It was about the discussion, not just being loud. Thinking back on how things used to be... man... remember when we used to just relentlessly roast Jay for being such a loose cannon? Haha... those were the days.

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I see some people around here asking what a troll actually is and how you can spot one in the wild. So, I figured I’d throw this out there just to refresh everyone's memory.

Just ignore them. Honestly, why even give them the satisfaction? It honestly takes a little while to build up that kind of muscle memory, you know? You have to develop the discipline to just... not engage. It’s about training yourself to see those troll posts and choosing not to hit reply. It doesn't happen overnight, but eventually, it becomes second nature to just let them shout into the void without giving them the satisfaction of an answer. Honestly, the absolute worst mistake you can make is trying to drag them into a rational debate. It’s a total waste of breath. These trolls aren't posting because they actually want to discuss anything or exchange ideas—they're just fishing for a reaction. They don't care about being right; they just want to see you get riled up. Why even bother? You know, I’ve noticed that well-meaning users can actually end up making things way worse when they try to respond to a troll. They think they're helping, but they often just end up fueling the fire. In my opinion, a troll has officially won the moment they manage to throw the entire thread into such a chaotic mess that there's no way to get the conversation back on track. It's like once that domino effect starts, the whole discussion is just broken beyond repair. The only way to actually stop a troll from winning is to just ignore them. It’s that old rule of thumb: "Don't feed the trolls." Seriously, why even bother giving them the attention they're starving for? (Don't feed the trolls) — it’s basically just a friendly heads-up to everyone else to stop giving those people the attention they're clearly starving for. Look, let’s be real here—a troll doesn't actually care about your logic or what you have to say. They aren't reading your argument to understand it. Honestly? They just want the spotlight. It's all about the attention for them. The moment it happens... You know, I’ve been thinking about this lately. When you actually give a troll the attention they're looking for—when you make them the absolute center of your universe—what happens? It’s almost predictable, isn't it? They don't just stay the same; they get louder. They get more extreme. They just keep pushing the envelope further and further to keep that spotlight on them. It’s like feeding a fire just to see how big the flames can get, right? It often just spirals into this endless loop of insults and petty drama, doesn't it? You end up with these massive, theatrical exits where people storm out of the community like they’re walking off a movie set. Honestly, the best move is to just stop feeding the trolls. If you deny them the attention they're starving for, they'll get bored and wander off to find some other place to hunt for it.

You could honestly say that trolls owe their entire existence to the phrase "trolling for newbies." It’s this specific little tactic where the veteran members of an online community—those people who have been around since the early days of Reddit or something similar—basically hunt for newcomers. Their goal? To drop a thread about a topic that’s already been debated to death, just waiting for some wide-eyed rookie to jump in and give a serious, earnest response. The whole term actually comes from real-life fishing, right? You know, that technique where you drag a baited line through the water, hoping something bites. In the digital world, those provocative, inflammatory posts are nothing more than the bait being dragged through online discussions. They’re specifically designed to snag people who lack a bit of self-discipline—the ones who can't spot a troll from a mile away and end up giving these trolls exactly what they want: attention. And let's be honest, it's the kind of attention most people can't even dream of getting in their actual daily lives. A troll doesn't actually post just to start a conversation. No, they do it with the specific goal of baiting a string of irrelevant responses that derail the whole discussion and ultimately tear it apart. Because of this malicious and sneaky behavior, internet trolls are often compared to those creatures from old folklore—the ones used to represent people who disrupt things for no good reason.

These trolls try to act like legitimate members of the group, pretending they share our interests or goals. Usually, the trolling starts with a post that is intentionally inaccurate but not quite controversial enough to trigger an immediate explosion. They’re looking for that predictable, heated reaction. Responsible members of an online community, if they know what they're looking at, try to figure out first which posts are genuine and which are just bait (you know, the difference between someone asking a genuinely naive, silly question and someone purposefully stirring the pot). Once they spot a troll, they usually try to force them out through either total silence or administrative action. Success really comes down to whether the community's reaction makes the troll's life more fun or more difficult, and how much effort they have to put in to get what they want.

There's no denying that calling someone a "troll" is pretty subjective. One person might see a post as trolling, while another sees it as a valid—even if heated—contribution to the debate. Sometimes, people throw the "troll" label around just to discredit someone they disagree with. It's basically just a classic ad hominem fallacy.

To be fair, not all trolls are bad actors. A sophisticated troll who actually does their homework can breathe some much-needed life into a boring, pointless debate, turning sleepy users into high-energy participants with just a few carefully chosen comments. While those kinds of trolls can occasionally earn respect from the audience, that level of sophistication is much rarer than common sense in American politics, so most trolls remain nothing more than a nuisance we could easily live without.
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cosmicorca5 cosmicorca5 Newcomer
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joined Oct 2013
#26 ·
The "off-topic" label people keep throwing around is nothing more than an inside joke among those of us who have been posting in the Away From Keyboard thread since this show was first filmed two or three years ago. It has absolutely zero connection to the main discussion, which was clearly laid out in detail back on the original Disney thread—though apparently, some people lack the basic intuition to tell the difference between actual rule-breaking and just having a bit of fun to kill time. If you weren't part of the group, you wouldn't get it, and honestly, it's a bit sad that some can't distinguish between a serious violation and a simple joke. Right now, we’re essentially in a standoff with these kids who are running around trying to throw Chad around the neck 🤣, and we have our rules and prayer and rules and prayer to fall back on. For us, joking around there is pure enjoyment, so let's leave it at that. ☕
rustydrifter10 rustydrifter10 Regular
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joined Apr 2011
#27 ·
I'm going to look into why this thread was locked and see when we can get it back up and running, so please just bear with me for a little bit.
Raymond Gray2 Raymond Gray2 Member
18 messages
joined Oct 2013
#28 ·
@IBM
I don't get why you feel targeted? You're just sharing your take, and honestly, that's fine. But maybe skip the annoying tone—you know, like how Michael Ramos4 acts when he spends all his energy dragging Disney through the mud just to bait people into reacting.
Michael Ramos4 Michael Ramos4 Member
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joined Oct 2013
#29 ·
I guess I’ll jump into this drama too... since apparently, I'm being called out and people are starting a whole debate about my takes on this thread. Look, everyone has a right to their own opinion, right? And if having an opinion counts as trolling, then we're all just trolling each other at this point.
I should be allowed to have my own perspective just like anyone else. I don't need to follow the crowd or agree with the majority; I've got my own views.
That’s literally what a forum is for. Different people sharing different thoughts on every single thread. It would be insane if everyone thought exactly the same way—we’d be living in some weird echo chamber.
And if anyone thinks I’m getting special treatment from the mods, they can go check my warning history and points. Trust me, there isn't a moderator alive who hasn't handed me a "gift" in the form of a penalty. So much for being "protected."

Nobody has the right to come for me just because of how I feel. I’m not out here calling people out or dragging them; I’m not a child, and I don't have time for that. Besides, obsessing over some TV show isn't the most important thing in the world for me, nor is it for anyone else. I’m going to keep posting exactly what I think. If someone can't handle my take, they can just stop reading. I don't read every single post either, and frankly, I don't care. Everyone should be able to do the same.

Who’s stopping me from hating on Disney? Just because she’s the lead doesn't mean she's perfect. That’s nonsense. I love who I love, I respect who I respect, and I’m going to write about these characters based on how I actually see them and experience the story. And clearly, I'm not alone in this; plenty of others feel the exact same way.
I honestly don't get why I've become such a target of disagreement here. Are all the people agreeing with me trolls too? Because that feels like an insult to me and everyone standing by my side.
Raymond Gray2 Raymond Gray2 Member
18 messages
joined Oct 2013
#30 ·
rustydrifter10 said:I'm going to look into why this thread was locked and see when we can get it back up and running, so please just bear with me for a little bit.

Thanks for letting us know! That definitely gives us some hope. 🙂
Nicole Palmer4 Nicole Palmer4 Newcomer
8 messages
joined Oct 2013
#31 ·
cosmicorca5 said:The "off-topic" label people keep throwing around is nothing more than an inside joke among those of us who have been posting in the Away From Keyboard thread since this show was first filmed two or three years ago. It has absolutely zero connection to the main discussion, which was clearly laid out in detail back on the original Disney thread—though apparently, some people lack the basic intuition to tell the difference between actual rule-breaking and just having a bit of fun to kill time. If you weren't part of the group, you wouldn't get it, and honestly, it's a bit sad that some can't distinguish between a serious violation and a simple joke. Right now, we’re essentially in a standoff with these kids who are running around trying to throw Chad around the neck 🤣, and we have our rules and prayer and rules and prayer to fall back on. For us, joking around there is pure enjoyment, so let's leave it at that. ☕

I agree with every word. When I first joined this forum, I started posting in the IBM off-topic section. As a "newbie," I was welcomed warmly, just like everyone else who arrived after me. There hasn't been a single fight or any tension; I’d go as far as to say it’s one of the most cheerful threads on the site. About 95% of the posts there are pure nonsense meant for relaxation and enjoyment, having absolutely zero connection to the other topics or the users who choose not to participate there. As for the "war," you explained it perfectly.

AKIF, nobody mentioned your name here, nor did the previous posts refer to you. I have no idea why you felt targeted. 🤷
Raymond Gray2 Raymond Gray2 Member
18 messages
joined Oct 2013
#32 ·
Michael Ramos4 said:I guess I’ll jump into this drama too... since apparently, I'm being called out and people are starting a whole debate about my takes on this thread. Look, everyone has a right to their own opinion, right? And if having an opinion counts as trolling, then we're all just trolling each other at this point.
I should be allowed to have my own perspective just like anyone else. I don't need to follow the crowd or agree with the majority; I've got my own views.
That’s literally what a forum is for. Different people sharing different thoughts on every single thread. It would be insane if everyone thought exactly the same way—we’d be living in some weird echo chamber.
And if anyone thinks I’m getting special treatment from the mods, they can go check my warning history and points. Trust me, there isn't a moderator alive who hasn't handed me a "gift" in the form of a penalty. So much for being "protected."

Nobody has the right to come for me just because of how I feel. I’m not out here calling people out or dragging them; I’m not a child, and I don't have time for that. Besides, obsessing over some TV show isn't the most important thing in the world for me, nor is it for anyone else. I’m going to keep posting exactly what I think. If someone can't handle my take, they can just stop reading. I don't read every single post either, and frankly, I don't care. Everyone should be able to do the same.

Who’s stopping me from hating on Disney? Just because she’s the lead doesn't mean she's perfect. That’s nonsense. I love who I love, I respect who I respect, and I’m going to write about these characters based on how I actually see them and experience the story. And clearly, I'm not alone in this; plenty of others feel the exact same way.
I honestly don't get why I've become such a target of disagreement here. Are all the people agreeing with me trolls too? Because that feels like an insult to me and everyone standing by my side.

You have a point there. But let's be real: the drama started because of you—mostly because you're constantly bashing Disney. It's not just your interpretation; you're saying things that aren't even true, and that's what's triggering people. Plenty of us don't like Disney either, but we don't make it as irritating as you do. To you, Disney is basically the worst character ever written. That's how you portray her. It bugs me too, but I stay quiet just to keep the peace around here.
wiredeagle2 wiredeagle2 Newcomer
3 messages
joined Oct 2013
#33 ·
The fact is, some people love complaining about the show and the lead character. If the protagonist irritates you that much, why even watch? I wouldn't spend a single second tuning in if Scarlett Johansson got on my nerves like that. Besides, it’s not just the show—other users here are getting on my nerves too. 🙂 It honestly feels like someone is intentionally stirring the pot, which is exactly why this thread got locked in the first place.
I’ve grown used to certain people here and I actually enjoy how we exchange ideas. BRING THE THREAD BACK 😢
hiddenraven43 hiddenraven43 Newcomer
1 message
joined Oct 2013
#34 ·
I’m voting to reopen this thread... though I can't help but wonder, why was it even closed in the first place?
Carl Barrett11 Carl Barrett11 Member
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joined Oct 2015
#35 ·
It isn't really about whether someone holds a negative or positive opinion regarding the protagonist; rather, it's about the manner in which they express it. In certain instances, the delivery is nothing more than an overt provocation, which is precisely what triggers this kind of conflict.
Michael Ramos4 Michael Ramos4 Member
15 messages
joined Oct 2013
#36 ·
Raymond Gray2 said:You have a point there. But let's be real: the drama started because of you—mostly because you're constantly bashing Disney. It's not just your interpretation; you're saying things that aren't even true, and that's what's triggering people. Plenty of us don't like Disney either, but we don't make it as irritating as you do. To you, Disney is basically the worst character ever written. That's how you portray her. It bugs me too, but I stay quiet just to keep the peace around here.

Because of me? Seriously? Why? Because I'm being negative about FedEx? That's just what I think. Is there some rule about how much "negativity" is allowed? This is how I see things. You see them differently, so you get pissed at me. Where's the logic in that? Is there some official proof somewhere saying FedEx is a saint? There isn't. I can think whatever I want about her based on the impression she leaves on me. You can think whatever you want and write it down, too. Why shouldn't I have the same rights as everyone else? These aren't provocations; it's my opinion. If I'm blunt and that's how my brain works, do I really need to apologize to anyone? What I write are my life views from my own perspective regarding all the characters. I mostly watch for Adam and Leo, who I actually like—they remind me of the good people I know in real life, though those types are pretty rare. That's it. I don't find FedEx interesting at all. Her looks, her attitude, what she does—none of it fascinates me. I don't like her. And I don't see what that has to do with someone having a different opinion. Why should anyone get mad at how I think? Everyone has their own take, and I honestly don't see a problem with it, nor do I feel the need to sugarcoat anything. I'm being honest, and I hope others are too. We're all different, clearly. What am I supposed to do? I don't fit into a box and I'm not a follower. I draw my own conclusions and I have my own stance on everything. Whether I'm talking about something major in life or any other topic, I'm going to be myself. Just like everyone else.
wiredeagle2 wiredeagle2 Newcomer
3 messages
joined Oct 2013
#37 ·
One more thing: the "Emma Watson" thread was shut down. Nobody was even fighting, but apparently, we broke a rule by speculating about a potential collaboration between Hazel and Cage, which had nothing to do with the show itself. They just issued a warning and closed the topic. If they’re going to warn us and then stop us from talking entirely, what’s actually the point?
goldenfalcon7 goldenfalcon7 Newcomer
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joined Oct 2013
#38 ·
Carl Barrett11 said:It isn't really about whether someone holds a negative or positive opinion regarding the protagonist; rather, it's about the manner in which they express it. In certain instances, the delivery is nothing more than an overt provocation, which is precisely what triggers this kind of conflict.


Exactly. It isn't even about having a different opinion; it’s about how she goes about making her claims. She makes everyone else look like absolute idiots just by trying to prove them wrong. Like, this: Your screenshot doesn't prove anything. You're totally taking things out of context, because my TV is showing me something completely different... 😕

Or when that same troll posts something completely baseless, and even after someone proves them wrong—because they literally twisted a fact we all saw with our own eyes on screen—she just responds with: I didn't say that.So, then you just go back and use her own damn post against her to prove that this was always the pattern all along. I guess.

I guess maybe we should just stop pretending that anyone actually cares about what this guy thinks. It’s honestly exhausting. 🤷

How are we supposed to actually analyze a series if we aren't going to comment on what everyone else is saying about it? I guess that's just how it works, maybe. 🤷.

I guess Nica is just being Nica. Honestly, maybe she should just pipe down. kaže:
I'll look into why this thread was locked and when it might be reopened, but please, just have a little patience.

Thanks. Honestly, I don't think there's even any point in arguing here anymore. People should just go back through this thread and see for themselves: who’s just trolling, who actually has a point, and who among the mods is failing to manage this topic properly. That's all I have to say.
Michael Ramos4 Michael Ramos4 Member
15 messages
joined Oct 2013
#39 ·
What even is this "trolling" nonsense? How can you guys claim someone's trolling when you don't have a shred of actual proof? I don't know a single troll in this thread... since when does having an opinion that differs from yours count as trolling? I guess I missed that memo.
Michael Ramos4 Michael Ramos4 Member
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joined Oct 2013
#40 ·
Nicole Palmer4 said:I agree with everything that’s been said here.
I’ll just add that the very same troll told me my conclusion was stupid and that I lacked manners; then, their post vanished at light speed. As for whether they were actually penalized, I have no idea.

Later, I made a post containing two sentences of pure irony and ended up getting a red card—nothing more, nothing less—for "trolling." 😲
The important thing is that this individual, who trolls all day every single day, hasn't received a single penalty for it—at least, I haven't seen one. Why? I don't know, and frankly, I'm curious.

Same goes for me... so feel free to call me Michael Ramos4... what troll?

And your little conclusion didn't even address the topic or the people involved... it was a direct hit on me personally. Your big takeaway was basically..."Now I know you aren't actually saying what you think, you're just baiting anyone who disagrees"...where did you get off making that assumption? And honestly, getting personal and acting like you can read my mind... what are you, a psychic? All while we're talking about a soap opera thread.

My post gets nuked, but your condescending comment is still sitting there. Hey mods, why don't you just paste it right here so everyone can see exactly why I was silenced.

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