Religion & Anti-religion subforum: the same old crowd and Meadow

Justin Harris12 said:Why on earth would you want to moderate Islamic topics? 🤷
Are Muslims considered true believers and second-class citizens?
The more you write, the more it becomes obvious that everything I’ve been saying is actually coming true.
You’re acting like some kind of martyr here, playing the victim while you moderate this place as if you’re the sole authority over the entire forum. And what was that about Joe? What exactly are you getting at? Are you talking about what Joe wrote last night? 🤷
You’re going straight for the ad hominem attack against me, even though I haven't criticized you as a person—I only critiqued your moderation, because that is your role here. If your username was "Kitty Kitty," people would be complaining about the handle "Kitty Kitty" rather than targeting Tyler Cruz32 personally. You keep accusing me of using ad hominem tactics, but this isn't the first time you've resorted to lying; I’ve already proven that not a single sentence I wrote was a lie. By extension, that means you were just making up your own version of the truth, which is nothing more than blatant lying.

Look, when it comes to all that behind-the-scenes drama, honestly, neither I nor the rest of the folks here on the forum really care. You just have to learn how to deal with it—it’s as simple as that. It's like at work; a regular employee doesn't need to be privy to the CEO's private strategic plans for the corporation. That shouldn't be their concern. An employee's job is to focus on their own tasks, hit their targets, and get paid according to their job description. Period.
So you can just go ahead and grab yourself a ban without actually telling us what's going on over there. Just mentioning that "something" is happening is nothing more than a pathetic excuse, and honestly, I don't think this whole situation should have even leaked onto this thread in the first place.

The decision has been made, and frankly, I’ve got nothing left to say about it. My only regret is that such a call was ever made, because this tendency to blindly defend the moderators is going to be the death of this forum. You all are going to learn the hard way that being a moderator shouldn't mean getting automatic protection; being an admin means making fair decisions that serve the community. Right now, the reputation of this site is being dragged through the mud, and if things keep going this way, it's nothing but a downward spiral from here.

Maybe tone down the demands and especially that "poor us Muslims, nobody loves us, boo hoo" act. You're starting to draw parallels to how people talk about Jewish communities.

Moderators are volunteers working in their free time. It doesn't mean they are on call 24/7 just so you guys can fight through reports.

And as for the decisions? Forget about them. You were the one throwing around threats about calling the police (honestly, just tell us how much they laughed at you). Being offensive isn't a failure of the forum, the moderators, or the admins. If you're going to be this sensitive about everything—especially regarding your religion—why not just find a forum where everyone shares your views and enjoy yourself there?

Peter Phillips32 said:Look, I just wanted to jump in here and throw my support behind the mods—they’re doing a solid job trying to civilize this absolute zoo of a forum. 😍

I really don't get how these forum bullies think they can scare people away from certain topics, especially when that's exactly what they're trying to achieve in the first place.

Actually, if anything, this just motivates me more; it's a sign that things are finally moving in the right direction. Whatever they're doing is working, so they might as well keep at it.

I'm still going to stand by the liberal, modern believers while staying firmly against the conservative, fundamentalist, and fanatic types with their backwards, stuck-in-the-past ideas.

And as for the whole thing about people threatening to call the cops just because someone was making fun of Islam... 🤣
Or acting like, "Oh, just wait until I call my crew (which is basically just one tiny little slice of the religious community), then you'll see." 🤣

Sure, maybe, but all of that will eventually end once there are more progressive Muslims around.

[my bold]
Yeah, 🥳right, in your wildest dreams. ☕

edit:
Muslims aren't a race, so that accusation of racism doesn't even hold water.

edit2:
Who else hasn't seen this?Achmed the Dead Terrorista. 😬

Because it’s pointless. Everyone who tries ends up getting baited into an argument and handed a ban, which is clearly the end game.
Personally, I just get sent links packed with nothing but biases and falsehoods, often paired with being addressed as "OP" as if I'm not even worthy of a proper username.
If I had fired back with links showing those same kinds of prejudices regarding Islam (which are certainly present), there would be a massive uproar here; yet, if I actually reported them, people would start screaming about defending freedom of speech and expression (which has happened before).
Just more of the same...

rowdytiger13 said:Because it’s pointless. Everyone who tries ends up getting baited into an argument and handed a ban, which is clearly the end game.
Personally, I just get sent links packed with nothing but biases and falsehoods, often paired with being addressed as "OP" as if I'm not even worthy of a proper username.
If I had fired back with links showing those same kinds of prejudices regarding Islam (which are certainly present), there would be a massive uproar here; yet, if I actually reported them, people would start screaming about defending freedom of speech and expression (which has happened before).
Just more of the same...

Why do you even care what someone thinks or what their final thoughts might be? Whether it's yours, mine, or some random third party's, everyone has the right to voice their opinion on a democratic forum. If someone finds it offensive, that's neither your problem nor mine!

A comment from... @Justin Harris12Just so you know, it’s always the victim... typical...

I really think we need to stay focused on the main topic here... Let's not get distracted by minor details!

In short...
The Netherlands and France... They’re really pushing for a ban on Islamic sirens...Setting those numbers aside for a moment... the real question remains... Which Islam are we even talking about...?!
Is it the guy responsible for the killing of Vincent van Gogh in the Netherlands? Or that sect trying to parade through France in burkas and niqabs, just making everyone feel uneasy in public...

That kind of Islam really ought to be banned...
It’s not actually Islam that we're talking about—it's the ideology, Islamism. There's simply no room for that kind of thing here in America...
France made all the right calls...

Moving forward...
The weakening of democracy... and everything the people fought so hard for...
Do you honestly believe the French fought to strip the church of its power just so they could roll out the red carpet for Salafists and Wahhabis today...?

And now you’re acting like the victim on the forum?!...

rowdytiger13 said:Because it’s pointless. Everyone who tries ends up getting baited into an argument and handed a ban, which is clearly the end game.
Personally, I just get sent links packed with nothing but biases and falsehoods, often paired with being addressed as "OP" as if I'm not even worthy of a proper username.
If I had fired back with links showing those same kinds of prejudices regarding Islam (which are certainly present), there would be a massive uproar here; yet, if I actually reported them, people would start screaming about defending freedom of speech and expression (which has happened before).
Just more of the same...

I said the exact same thing on those French forums a few years back: "Eh, I just couldn't bring myself to care..."
It looks like it's spreading... And here we are, just giving up...
Just wait ten years... They'll be everywhere on every single platform, while we're nowhere to be found... 😬

That's enough said on the matter...

Good grief, the guy is literally making threats (not counting all the trolling and those blatant false accusations)

There’s no point in arguing; you’re all just going to end up spinning your wheels. He needs to be dealt with on the Religion subforum (if you ask me, this kind of excessive threatening should probably trigger an automatic permanent ban) and then we can have some peace.

I'm with you. Someone needs to ask him what happened to all those big threats he was making.
What did his people tell him?
Was it just hot air or actually nothing? Does he still think he's got some "ace up his sleeve"?
Is he actually going to apologize to the mods and everyone else on the forum? ☕

Anthony Perez9 said:I'm with you. Someone needs to ask him what happened to all those big threats he was making.
What did his people tell him?
Was it just hot air or actually nothing? Does he still think he's got some "ace up his sleeve"?
Is he actually going to apologize to the mods and everyone else on the forum? ☕

Nope. He’s been in a similar spot before and made it crystal clear he doesn't give a damn.

Major props to the moderators for putting up with this crap!