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2013 Chinese Grand Prix at Indianapolis Motor Speedway (April 12-14)

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Participants Sam Roberts8neonfox65shadowstag10Nathan Jones98swifttiger75jadetrucker43Jason Campbell70stormybadger8William Bennett53Tyler Bennett5Terry Carter2darkmarlin16ruggedfox28redheron12Zachary Thompson2Donna Robinson5Amanda Kellyswiftpilot4Samuel Ruiz4Frank Collins85steelmaker83Drew Bennett68Jerry Rogers6Peter Carter6 …
Jerry Rogers6 Jerry Rogers6 Active Member
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#81 ·
Honestly, I thought it was weird that nobody was posting the results here yet
We really need to fix that ☕

Second Practice result:

1. Felipe Massa - Ferrari - 1:35.340
2. Kimi Raikkonen - Lotus - 1:35.492
3. Fernando Alonso - Ferrari - 1:35.755
4. Nico Rosberg - Mercedes - 1:35.819
5. Mark Webber - Red Bull - 1:36.092
6. Jenson Button - McLaren - 1:36.432
7. Lewis Hamilton - Mercedes - 1:36.496
8. Adrian Sutil - Force India - 1:36.514
9. Paul Di Resta - Force India - 1:36.595
10. Sebastian Vettel - Red Bull - 1:36.791
11. Sergio Perez - McLaren - 1:36.940
12. Romain Grosjean - Lotus - 1:36.963
13. Esteban Gutierrez - Sauber - 1:37.103
14. Daniel Ricciardo - Toro Rosso - 1:37.206
15. Jean-Eric Vergne - Toro Rosso - 1:38.127
16. Valtteri Bottas - Williams - 1:38.185
17. Nico Hulkenberg - Sauber - 1:38.211
18. Pastor Maldonado - Williams - 1:38.276
19. Jules Bianchi - Marussia - 1:38.725
20. Giedo van der Garda - Caterham - 1:39.271
21. Charles Pic - Caterham - 1:39.814
22. Max Chilton - Marussia - 1:43.227
redheron12 redheron12 Regular
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#82 ·
Tyler Bennett5 said:redheron12, you can't seriously be thinking about giving up on your favorite team after just one season where
they fail to grab a single win and consider making it into Q3 or picking up a handful of points a massive success.
Every team goes through its ups and downs, and McLaren is certainly no exception. If you take a quick look back at their historical performance, you'll
notice they tend to find their stride much more effectively during the second half of any given decade. So, let's just have a little patience and stay optimistic.

Well, honestly—I've grown used to this rollercoaster over the thirty years I've been following McLaren. They won't be a total disaster this year either; they'll likely snatch at least one race victory even with this bucket of bolts we're seeing.
It seems to me their real focus right now is the MP4-12C—between the Loeb project, GT3 series, and endurance racing... they seem preoccupied.

By the way, regarding that MP4-12C... man, what a sound. It reminds me of the old Formula cars from back in the day. 🙏
Drew Bennett68 Drew Bennett68 Regular
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#83 ·
Everything is just overflowing with love and understanding here...😍

Let's take a moment to talk about these Pirelli tires, which honestly feel like they were made out of chocolate.

"The life of the [soft] tyre, it's the worst I've ever experienced with bits flying off all over the place," Lewis Hamilton said.

"The soft is hardcore. It doesn't feel like the right tyre for this circuit. I did a couple of laps and the tyres just disintegrated."


But Pirelli motorsport chief Paul Hembery said the soft tyre was doing exactly what it was supposed to.

"If the medium did the same then I'd be concerned, but it doesn't," he said.

"It's a qualifying tyre. It'll be a bit like Melbourne I guess where the top teams are going to be forced to qualify on the softer tyre because it's such a performance advantage and within the first 10 laps they are going to have to pit.
Sam Roberts8 Sam Roberts8 MemberOP
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#84 ·
stormybadger8 said:I mean, Massine had an incredible qualifying session, giving us some real hope he can keep this momentum going through race five.😁
I put some money on Massu, and if he keeps playing like this, I might actually make a decent profit.😍

Give me a break xD
As soon as Vettel struggles, everyone jumps ship to Massa xD
Just to be clear, I'm pulling for both Alonso and Massa—basically, I'm rooting for Ferrari.
Jason Campbell70 Jason Campbell70 Veteran
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#85 ·
Drew Bennett68 said:
"It's a qualifying tyre. It'll be a bit like Melbourne I guess where the top teams are going to be forced to qualify on the softer tyre because it's such a performance advantage and within the first 10 laps they are going to have to pit.

Right. 😂

Otherwise, this whole competition is just a tragicomedy.
These tires are absolutely ruining everything.

And the saddest part? After the race, everyone will be raving about how exciting it was, all those "incredible overtakes" and whatnot.
When in reality, the situation is more absurd than anything else.
Tyler Bennett5 Tyler Bennett5 Active Member
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#86 ·
We basically have two choices: either we settle for manufactured overtakes or we stick to natural racing via pit strategy.
In the first scenario, you get overtakes happening right on the track, regardless of how forced they feel.
In the second, any movement in position happens strictly through the pits—and even then, only if there's an opportunity for an extra pit stop.
Look, if the people calling the shots in F1 can't come up with anything that actually allows for genuine, organic
racing, then I'd honestly rather have something artificial than nothing at all.
Drew Bennett68 Drew Bennett68 Regular
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#87 ·
Tyler Bennett5 said:We basically have two choices: either we settle for manufactured overtakes or we stick to natural racing via pit strategy.
In the first scenario, you get overtakes happening right on the track, regardless of how forced they feel.
In the second, any movement in position happens strictly through the pits—and even then, only if there's an opportunity for an extra pit stop.
Look, if the people calling the shots in F1 can't come up with anything that actually allows for genuine, organic
racing, then I'd honestly rather have something artificial than nothing at all.

That’s pretty much how I see it too.
redheron12 redheron12 Regular
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#88 ·
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...5ek7Wxg#t=118s

For those who appreciate things a bit more organic 😁
stormybadger8 stormybadger8 Veteran
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#89 ·
redheron12 said:Well, honestly—I've grown used to this rollercoaster over the thirty years I've been following McLaren. They won't be a total disaster this year either; they'll likely snatch at least one race victory even with this bucket of bolts we're seeing.
It seems to me their real focus right now is the MP4-12C—between the Loeb project, GT3 series, and endurance racing... they seem preoccupied.

By the way, regarding that MP4-12C... man, what a sound. It reminds me of the old Formula cars from back in the day. 🙏

Personally, I think the real issue is Michael...
Honestly, everything has gone completely downhill since he showed up.
stormybadger8 stormybadger8 Veteran
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#90 ·
Sam Roberts8 said:Give me a break xD
As soon as Vettel struggles, everyone jumps ship to Massa xD
Just to be clear, I'm pulling for both Alonso and Massa—basically, I'm rooting for Ferrari.

http://mladenjergovic.com/naprijed-u-2013#comment-11642
😍
Just mark the date and you'll see I'm right😁
stormybadger8 stormybadger8 Veteran
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#91 ·
Tyler Bennett5 said:We basically have two choices: either we settle for manufactured overtakes or we stick to natural racing via pit strategy.
In the first scenario, you get overtakes happening right on the track, regardless of how forced they feel.
In the second, any movement in position happens strictly through the pits—and even then, only if there's an opportunity for an extra pit stop.
Look, if the people calling the shots in F1 can't come up with anything that actually allows for genuine, organic
racing, then I'd honestly rather have something artificial than nothing at all.

I couldn't agree more.
I’d much rather sit through a grueling 20-lap battle with one legendary overtake than watch a bunch of artificial overtaking nonsense.

I fell in love with Formula 1 watching that duel. Massa and Senna at Monaco.Exactly. It’s that whole "will they, won't they" uncertainty that keeps things interesting...
There’s zero substance to it today. All you're getting is some basic graphics showing KERS and DRS, or if you're feeling nostalgic, a comparison between the old and new tires. That’s it. Adios.👋
Honestly, the whole thing is a joke. When you actually watch a race now, the only things that seem to matter are how many DRS zones they've slapped on the track and which car can pull off one fewer pit stop than everyone else. That's basically it.

A Formula 1 series where Lewis Hamilton’s tires give up on him before he even finishes his first flying lap is absolute garbage.
Pirelli is a bigger disaster for this sport than Schumacher's dominance or a rotting train car—and that's easily ten times worse.🙄
Jerry Rogers6 Jerry Rogers6 Active Member
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#92 ·
ukljucujeN se 🙂
Edward Howard2 Edward Howard2 Regular
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#93 ·
His hands just aren't following the pit wall orders again... 🤣

Seriously, someone just kick him out of the garage and fire him already... ☕
I mean, how do they even let him get away with this... 🤣
Jerry Rogers6 Jerry Rogers6 Active Member
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#94 ·
(What happens when you fall asleep and miss the forecast 😬 you just end up looking like an idiot and getting absolutely hammered by Enivize 😬)
Edward Howard2 Edward Howard2 Regular
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#95 ·
Jerry Rogers6 said:(What happens when you fall asleep and miss the forecast 😬 you just end up looking like an idiot and getting absolutely hammered by Enivize 😬)

Hasn't the Red Bull mafia totally imploded yet from all that internal drama cracking at the seams? 😁

But seriously... what's the deal with that rear wing? Why does Vettel have the new one while Webber is stuck with the old version? 😁
Jerry Rogers6 Jerry Rogers6 Active Member
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#96 ·
😁

We've buried the hatchet, and we’re going to handle everything like true professionals through the end of the season 🙂
Jerry Rogers6 Jerry Rogers6 Active Member
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#97 ·
Edward Howard2 said:Hasn't the Red Bull mafia totally imploded yet from all that internal drama cracking at the seams? 😁

But seriously... what's the deal with that rear wing? Why does Vettel have the new one while Webber is stuck with the old version? 😁

I honestly have no clue what you're asking—I haven't really been watching, listening, or reading up on this much lately.

Let me go find out.
Jerry Rogers6 Jerry Rogers6 Active Member
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#98 ·
BBC F1 pit-lane reporter Lee McKenzie reports:
"Sebastian Vettel was incredibly blunt during his remarks on Thursday—honestly, his statements at the start of the press conference didn't quite line up with how he wrapped things up. I'm standing in front of the garage and Helmut Marko and Sebastian Vettel are deep in conversation. And that’s really where the friction lies, right? We never see Helmut Marko on Mark Webber's side of the garage. Instead, you have Webber just standing there by himself, eyes glued to the TV. It’s clear there is a massive divide within that team."


🤣

0329:

When pressed regarding the comments made by Red Bull motorsport adviser Helmut Marko—specifically his claim that team orders are a thing of the past following Malaysia—Mark Webber simply replied: "Helmut. Yes. Next question."


🤣 😂
Jerry Rogers6 Jerry Rogers6 Active Member
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#99 ·
Interesting

Something weird is starting to happen with Nico Rosberg's car out of nowhere... feels like déjà vu. :deja vu:
Edward Howard2 Edward Howard2 Regular
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#100 ·
Jerry Rogers6 said:Interesting

Something weird is starting to happen with Nico Rosberg's car out of nowhere... feels like déjà vu. :deja vu:

Watch out... Mark Webber had such a solid start last race... 😁

You know exactly what happens next... 😂 🤣

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