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Complaint against Moderator Zoran Ostric

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hollowwalker24 hollowwalker24 MemberOP
26 messages
joined Mar 2020
#1 ·
In this post:

So, I just got flagged—reason given: "You're posting too much, take a break."

I’m honestly not sure what the specific rules for this board even are... if you look back at my activity in this thread, I posted once on Oct 9, then again on the 12th, 13th, and 16th. That's it.

Meanwhile, if you check out another thread, you can see lonetrucker4 dropped five posts on Oct 19, then nine on the 20th, and eight more on the 21st here:

I guess I'm just wondering if the "take a break" rule applies to everyone—like, how many strikes or points is lonetrucker4 actually getting? Because I've been flagged for four posts spread over seven days, while he's put up twenty-two posts in just three days without any issues.
lonetrucker4 lonetrucker4 Active Member
193 messages
joined Apr 2024
#2 ·
Why start a whole new thread just to whine about a 5-point penalty? You just want my name in the title, don't you? 🤦

In that "Chinese army" thread, you guys were all over the place—just endless bickering, trolling, and low blows. I handed out those warnings to three of you just to get some breathing room.

My bad, wrong call. Should've been an off-topic violation, which is 10 points—double the sting. But whatever, let's just leave it.
Grace Edwards Grace Edwards Active Member
184 messages
joined May 2023
#3 ·
How many points do you lose for not using the multi-quote feature and just spamming posts?
bluecyclist64 bluecyclist64 Regular
369 messages
joined Oct 2011
#4 ·
I’m holding out hope that Marko Perkkonen Tupson will perform that anthem about our fallen American heroes—the ones who were essentially wiped out by some mediocre, five-point bureaucratic failure from the old regime...🤣
hollowwalker24 hollowwalker24 MemberOP
26 messages
joined Mar 2020
#5 ·
lonetrucker4 said:Why start a whole separate thread just to appeal a 5-point penalty?

Because I have the right to complain, I guess?

lonetrucker4 said:Is it because you—like a few others—just love seeing my name in the title?

Not really. The reason is an appeal against moderator Zoran Ostric—if we’re being pedantic about the accent marks—and as far as I know, there's only one user here with that handle, who also happens to be the mod who flagged me.

lonetrucker4 said:In that "People's Liberation Army" thread, you guys were just rambling about whatever; there was plenty of trolling and insults flying around. So, I handed out three penalties just to get everyone to chill out.

Well, if you look at the logs, you can see exactly when the insults started—and where you actually penalized the guy who kicked things off with "inciting arguments" for 10 points, while ignoring his subsequent insults.

lonetrucker4 said:Fine, wrong penalty. It should have been for off-topic posting, which is 10 points—double the amount. Let's just leave it as is.

That's a lie, probably.

I even asked you in a DM:

"Sir, is this some kind of mistake?"

And you replied:

"No."

I can pull up a screenshot of the message if needed.
coppersailor28 coppersailor28 Active Member
156 messages
joined Mar 2012
#6 ·
hollowwalker24 said:I got flagged. The reason listed was:You're writing too much."Take a break," they say. As if that's an option.

Word on the street is you’ve got a reputation for being allergic to downtime.
Someone clearly hacked your inbox, and now you're out here broadcasting all that private info on the forum.

Give it a rest. You aren't the only bookworm in the States.

Marko Vanilla, take a break.!

Everyone keeps telling me the same thing: just take a break. Take a rest. Get some downtime.
Ease off the gas. Slow down. Stop burning through it.
To you, everyone is just too slow. Always lagging behind.
They’re going to tear you apart.

Everyone chooses their own path.
He chooses his own way.
Throughout my life.
I've made my choice.

One million. That’s the final number. I've only just arrived. 8.260)

Great. Now I just need a twenty-five-hour day.
Look, I take every opportunity that comes my way.
And that’s exactly why I’m in such a hurry.
Adrenaline is pumping through my veins.

Everything is exactly as I planned.
When, how, and where? I have an excellent plan.
It’s crystal clear in my mind.
How does one actually achieve a dream?


A, I need more hours in the day.
Look, I take every opportunity that comes my way. Every single one.
And that's why I'm in such a rush.

Adrenaline is surging through my veins.


Or maybe not. MileWhich one? Here. Right at that very moment. Cardboard. Beki Bekić, the music moderator and vocalist. What is there even to say about someone like that? And more importantly, how many points does he actually deserve?
Amanda Hughes37 Amanda Hughes37 Active Member
145 messages
joined Apr 2016
#7 ·
hollowwalker24 said:In this post:

I just got flagged—reason given: "You're posting too much, take a break."

I have no idea what the actual rules for this forum or sub-forum are... looking back through my history in this thread, I’ve only put in four posts: one on Oct 9, one on Oct 12, one on Oct 13, and one on Oct 16.

Meanwhile, if you check another thread and look at Zoran Ostric's activity, he dropped five posts on Oct 19, then nine on Oct 20, followed by eight more on Oct 21 right here:

I'm wondering if this "take a break" rule is actually being applied fairly... how many flags or points is Zoran Ostric going to rack up? I’m getting penalized for four posts spread over seven days, while he manages twenty-two posts in just three days without a single warning.

Oh... so that rule definitely exists. I got hit with an identical flag over on ZK...😁
casualgull17 casualgull17 Newcomer
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joined Apr 2021
#8 ·
Just another bigot—really just carrying on that old-school tradition of trying to erase someone's identity. That’s the only reason I keep getting banned from the history forums here.
bluemason3 bluemason3 Veteran
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joined Jun 2016
#9 ·
casualgull17 said:A total bigot who’s just following the old-school playbook of trying to wipe out our identity. That’s the only reason I keep getting banned from the history forums.

I guess when you hate everything American, life gets pretty lonely.🧐 😳 😛🙂
Jonathan Wright2 Jonathan Wright2 Member
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joined Aug 2020
#10 ·
lonetrucker4 said:Why on earth are you opening an entire dedicated thread just to complain about a five-point penalty? Is this really worth your time? Or is it just that you—much like a few other people around here—just can't resist the urge to see my name staring back at you in the subject line? 🤦

That’s not even it... He just finally figured out what you're really about.😁
lonetrucker4 said:My bad, I totally grabbed the wrong penalty card—this should’ve been flagged as off-topic, which is actually a 10-point infraction—meaning it's technically double what I originally gave. But honestly? Let's just leave it as it is. No point in making a thing out of it.

Alright, my bad—totally messed up that last card... ☕

Zoran Oštrić, seriously man—take a breath and chill out with the finger before you do something we all regret.👍
hollowwalker24 hollowwalker24 MemberOP
26 messages
joined Mar 2020
#11 ·
It’s funny how everyone in charge of this subforum has been super active lately—shoutout to coppersailor28, Nica, Saaba, and the Spokesperson—but I guess we’re still waiting on an actual response from the higher-ups here.
Jonathan Wright2 Jonathan Wright2 Member
44 messages
joined Aug 2020
#12 ·
hollowwalker24 said:It’s funny how everyone who runs this subforum has been super active over the last few days since this thread popped up—shout out to @coppersailor28/">@@coppersailor28 @Nica @Saaba @Spokesperson—but somehow, despite all that noise, we’re still waiting on an actual answer from the people in charge here.

This whole thread is probably gonna get locked soon... Hang in there, man..
Casey Bennett Casey Bennett Regular
522 messages
joined Nov 2011
#13 ·
hollowwalker24 said:It’s funny how every single moderator on this board has managed to stay busy over the last few days since this thread went live—specifically @coppersailor28/">@@coppersailor28 @Nica @Saaba @Spokesperson—yet, despite all that activity, we still haven't seen a single actual response from anyone in charge here.

I mean, what part of this blatant silence is supposed to be confusing?
hollowwalker24 hollowwalker24 MemberOP
26 messages
joined Mar 2020
#14 ·
Casey Bennett said:what part of "not answering" isn't clear enough?

Look, you aren't even in charge of this subforum, but since you asked—maybe you've heard the saying *qui tacet consentire videtur*—basically, silence implies consent.

The thing is, my warnings and points haven't been cleared, and from what I can see, the moderator hasn't been penalized either. Plus, looking at some of the posts in this thread, it seems like trolling, spam, and insults don't really get sanctioned around here.
coppersailor28 coppersailor28 Active Member
156 messages
joined Mar 2012
#15 ·
hollowwalker24 said:... Furthermore, some posts in this thread make it obvious that neither trolling, spam nor insults are being sanctioned.

5 / five / P-E-T / penalty points - a special topic?!!!

You’re clearly talking about your own trolling, spam...
...and ultimately about your own insulting everyone who dares to complain about an 'standard' or even a truly 'severe' ban on the REGULAR 'Ban Appeals' thread!

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Ashley Vaughn79 Ashley Vaughn79 Active Member
95 messages
joined Jan 2003
#16 ·
coppersailor28, does there really need to be such an intense mix of fonts? 🙂

But you did a nice job capturing all those screenshots, I suppose. 👍

(before posting this, I went back to see who was actually being complained about... Oštrić? oh well... I guess this post can go ahead 😁)
coppersailor28 coppersailor28 Active Member
156 messages
joined Mar 2012
#17 ·
Ashley Vaughn79 said:coppersailor28, is this really necessary? That font combination is incredibly strong.? 🙂
...

I have no idea who you are....

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And why exactly are you showing up? ☕

Honorary moderators. Absolutely useless. They don't even have standard fonts. Honorary moderators are useless. They have no right.
hollowwalker24 hollowwalker24 MemberOP
26 messages
joined Mar 2020
#18 ·
coppersailor28 said:Is there a special thread for 5 penalty points? Just asking.

It’s not about the number of points—it’s more about the fact that the moderator handed out a strike for something I didn't even do.

Plus, after I sent him a DM asking:

"Excuse me, is there some kind of misunderstanding here?"

The moderator just replied:

"No."

Meanwhile, that same moderator is doing the exact stuff he hands out strikes for. But I guess the rules he enforces don't really apply to him.


To put it in perspective, let's try an analogy for when a moderator gives someone a strike for something they didn't do—using domestic violence as the scale for severity.

5 points—the wife looks at her husband the wrong way, gets hit with a frying pan.

50 points—the wife didn't put enough soup in his bowl, husband breaks her arm.

500 points—the wife was grabbing coffee with friends and didn't reply to a text instantly, husband breaks both her legs.

Does the wife deserve those points, whether it's 5, 50, or 500?

coppersailor28 said:You must be talking about your own trolling and spamming...

No, I'm talking about certain posts in this thread where it's pretty obvious that trolling, spam, and insults aren't actually being penalized.

Glad you could see yourself in that description, though.

coppersailor28 said:I don't know who you are...

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...or why you're even chiming in.

In the meantime, I honestly have no idea who you are or why you're even bothering to jump into this thread, since you aren't involved in anything and haven't contributed much to the discussion.

So, this will be my last response to you.
coppersailor28 coppersailor28 Active Member
156 messages
joined Mar 2012
#19 ·
hollowwalker24 said:It isn't about the points. It’s about the fact that the moderator handed out a penalty for something I didn't even do. ...

Right, you haven't rested... (which was explicitly stated in the penalty justification).

hollowwalker24 said:...Furthermore, after I sent him a private message asking, "Excuse me, is there some kind of misunderstanding here?"
The moderator replied: "No." ...

And what exactly were you expecting him to say?
"Sir, there is absolutely no misunderstanding."?

hollowwalker24 said:...Meanwhile, this same moderator is doing the exact things he hands out penalties and points for. Apparently, the rules he enforces don't apply to himself. ...

Listen to @Markkonen (and his entourage):
"Zoran, you're over-moderating—take a break."

hollowwalker24 said:...In addition, I'll draw an analogy: a moderator handing out penalties for things people didn't do, using point totals to classify severity, is akin to domestic violence.

- 5 points - wife looks at her husband the wrong way, gets hit in the head with a skillet
- 50 points - wife didn't put enough soup in his bowl, husband breaks her arm
- 500 points - wife goes out for coffee with friends and doesn't reply to a text immediately, husband breaks both her legs

Does the woman "deserve" those points, regardless of whether it's 5, 50, or 500? ...

I assume you know exactly what kind of 'husband' you have and what his 'house rules' are.
How could you even think 'looking at him wrong' was an option?!

hollowwalker24 said:No, I am referring to specific posts in this thread where it is blatantly obvious that trolling, spamming, and insults go completely unpunished.

I am glad you found yourself in that description, though.

I am certain my previous post contained absolutely zero (not even the slightest) hint of a reaction to being "identified."

hollowwalker24 said:...In the meantime, I honestly have no idea who you are or why you are bothering to jump into this thread, given that you have neither any authority here nor have you contributed anything meaningful to this discussion. ...

I am not taking your side in this thread—primarily because you aren't right.
Given that, it stands to reason you view my comments as "non-contributing."

...Therefore, this will be my final response to you.

I would love to see ☕

More interesting would be information regarding your actual last post in this thread...
Jerry Robinson56 Jerry Robinson56 Regular
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joined Apr 2013
#20 ·
coppersailor28 Look, let’s be clear ... Markkonen is absolutely right ... there are rights, and there are obligations. The fact that certain individuals lack the capacity to grasp even the most basic concepts is a significant issue... specifically, an issue of correctness.

It boils down to one thing: a simple lack of respect.

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