Dennis Hall41 said:So, I was just falling down a rabbit hole looking at the history behind Slowdive - Souvlaki, and man, it’s such a trip how much weight this one record carries. It’s basically the blueprint, right? You can’t talk about that whole shoegaze movement without talking about this. It’s one of those albums where everything just *clicks*—the atmosphere, the textures, that wall of sound that somehow feels incredibly intimate at the same time. It’s funny because back then, people didn't really get it. They were too busy looking at their shoes or whatever, but now? It’s legendary. Every time I hear "When the Sun Hits," I’m just floored by how it manages to feel both massive and heartbreakingly fragile. It’s like they captured lightning in a bottle. I know some people try to act all high and mighty about certain genres, but honestly? I Beg to Differ when it comes to the impact this stuff had. It wasn't just noise; it was architecture. It was building these huge, swirling sonic spaces that most bands today can only dream of touching. If you haven't sat in a dark room with a good pair of headphones and let this thing wash over you, have you even lived? Seriously. It’s a total vibe, and frankly, it’s kind of unfair how much better it is than half the stuff coming out on the charts today.)
Look at those ratings—okay, sure, some of them are retroactive (Pitchfork, though if they’d actually been around in 1993, they probably would've trashed them even harder), but those 3s and 4s definitely aren't just people being haters. Honestly, critics tend to go way overboard with high scores all the time anyway. Personally? I don't think I'd give more than maybe twenty—thirty max—top marks out of every single album I've ever heard. And that's only about 1% of the albums I've actually listened to.
It didn't get the kind of love that some of their other albums did—and honestly? That really stung the band. It wasn't even just about the actual scores, if you know what I mean—it was more those biting, side-eyed comments that came along with them. Those little jabs always hurt way more than the numbers themselves.
By the way, those guys were only like 22 or 23 when *Souvlaki* dropped—I mean, they were practically kids! They were still teenagers when they were working on *Just for a Day*. Can you even imagine?
I honestly think those albums are pretty mature for where they were at the time—I mean, seriously—but then again, I get why some people on here might call them green.
Look, everyone’s just throwing scores around today like they're playing darts at a dive bar—it's totally arbitrary. Honestly? I actually agree with the sentiment here: we really need some actual criteria in place. It shouldn't just be a free-for-all, right?
cosmiccobra2 said:So close, yet so incredibly far—we honestly could've had the first turbo-folk album of the week sitting right in front of us. 🤣
edit: right at this exact moment someone actually went and voted for Jay! 🎉
Look, it’s not exactly my cup of tea—not even close—but let’s be real: a huge chunk of people absolutely love this kind of music. It makes total sense that it came out on top. Honestly, it was pretty much inevitable. 🤷
Jason Mendoza said:That whole indie rock era? It was everywhere. Like, everyone who was actually alive was listening to it—just a constant stream of Interpol and all that other garbage. Honestly, I stayed far away from it because it felt completely soul-less and just plain boring. Not that I had much choice, though—by that point, I was already deep into my college years.
And that’s where we finally hit the generational gap, isn't it? It’s just not the same feeling—I mean, really, how can it be? Hearing this kind of music for the first time when you're stuck in elementary school versus hearing it once you've actually made it to college... it's a completely different universe.
That’s exactly why Paul Simon just doesn't do it for me—I mean, look, it’s not like the album is bad or anything, but it just doesn't hit that specific spot I'm looking for, you know? It misses that spark entirely. 🤷
I honestly find myself tying him back to my parents way more than I do to myself—it's like, why even bother?
Steven Newman50 said:It's settled. 🙂 The threads are being kicked off by quietbison86 and Jessica Morris6. I was honestly about to pitch two debut albums myself, but since it’s been ages since Jessica Morris6 started a thread, let's go with a popular vote—even if it's the first one this year.
Look, the whole point of this thread is to review whatever we’re actually listening to most often right now. Sure, people expect us to just circle back to classic rock or those legendary cult albums over and over, but even from the very beginning, we knew that wasn't how this would work.
We want variety here—different styles, different vibes. And honestly? The fact that something might not be everyone's cup of tea is exactly what makes for a good debate (which is why suggestions are wide open). I put my vote in for Paul Simon, but Jay already had more votes anyway, which is pretty significant. Same goes for Slowdive.
And finally, just to clear the air for anyone who hasn't quite caught on yet: regarding the split between Pop and Root... the distinction isn't strictly about the genre itself, it's about the actual style of conversation happening on the subforums. Technically, you could have threads for Lady Gaga, Rihanna, or even Nada Mamula on either board, but you should expect a totally different vibe in how people talk about them.
So, what's the deadline for opening a thread?
It's obvious—the way people communicate on those two boards is night and day.