Moderation on PDF: Alternatives to the Science Edge V forum

How can you say it isn't? I literally cited the articles right there. This kind of communication is nothing more than pure trolling and off-topic nonsense.

Ethan Brooks59 said:Look, if I recall correctly, you were all about that "ignore" button too, but let's be real... you talk so much trash and lie so much, it’s no surprise you can't even stick to your own rules.

Actually, if we're talking about who talks the most trash and lies the most, you're looking in a mirror.

Ethan Brooks59 said:Oh, please... just show me the link where I ever said that about Napa? I'm dying to see it.

Don't even start with me... suddenly you care now that everything's been deleted? Why didn't you ask while your posts with those "values" of yours were still up??? Now that they're gone, you're acting all clueless. And when you were being absolutely disgusting to everyone on this board you weren't asking for links to your nasty comments back then? Only because they hadn't been wiped yet... I see Elizabeth Jackson posted a whole pile of your insults just so everyone could see what kind of person you really are. You got something to say to that? And it was Elizabeth Jackson—the exact one you hate so much, persecute, and are totally obsessed with—who put them there. It looks like she's completely taken over your headspace since everything she writes clearly gets under your skin, even though she isn't even paying you any attention at all.

Ethan Brooks59 said:You know, if you're so worked up about her, just send her a private message or meet her in a chat, or start a thread on some other US site, or whatever... just act like a man for once, instead of being such a weak little loser...

The only weak little loser here is you, and honestly, this forum hasn't seen anyone quite like you. And calling me a troll? Please... there hasn't been a bigger troll on this entire site than you. You just show up to insult people who are a thousand times smarter than you and drag your petty personal beefs from one thread to another with people you could never actually measure up to.

stormyrider28 said:Oh, give me a break... now suddenly you care about when everything was deleted? Why didn't you bother asking while the posts containing your actual values were still up??? Now that they're gone, you're playing the victim.

So, let me get this straight: you spout some nonsense or a flat-out lie, and I just "forgot" to call you out on it? And then, when I ask you to actually prove what you're saying and you can't, somehow IT'S MY FAULT? 😁 🤦 😵
What am I supposed to do? Just write exactly what you want me to say so it fits your narrative? Is everyone here losing their minds? 🤦 🤦 Man, you have totally lost it... seriously, read back what you're even typing. You're so blinded by rage that you don't even realize you're talking nonsense anymore. 😁

stormyrider28 said:But when you were insulting the forum members in the nastiest ways possible you didn't exactly ask us to link back to those disgusting insults, did you?

Honestly, I think you're having a bit of a struggle with basic logic. Where exactly did I insult the members so "disgustingly," and why on earth would I be the one asking for links to my own insults? Look, if you're going to make such a ridiculous claim, you should be the one providing the proof, right? Otherwise, it's just more of the same—just another one of your pathetic little lies. You are completely lost, stormyrider28. Totally...

stormyrider28 said:I see Elizabeth Jackson posted a whole bunch of your insults so everyone can see what kind of person you really are. Do you have anything to say for yourself?

Well, yeah! She was kind enough to provide links showing exactly what was said and how it was said. Using the actual words, not your versions or Napa's made-up stories and paraphrasing. And maybe ask yourself why she posted them? And why are you trolling this thread right now?
And also, if she supposedly put me on "ignore"—just like how you, Napa, Jamie Rivera78, YOU and a few others put me on "ignore"—then for heaven's sake, why are you all reading my posts, replying to them, and swarming this thread like a pack of wild animals? You guys jump on every single syllable the second it appears. Want me to explain why? Or maybe it's better if I don't stoop down to your level. This thread is about something else entirely.

stormyrider28 said:And it’s that very same Elizabeth Jackson you apparently loathe and persecute, whom you seem totally obsessed with.

To your disappointment, his writing shows the exact opposite. He’s actually furious, miserable, and obsessed—he’d probably rather scream at the top of his lungs because he can't get his way. He wants to turn this place into his own private playground where he can say whatever he wants, while anyone who dares to ask a question under the guise of "trolling" gets slapped with an immediate ban. It's all done with his own help or by someone just like him (or maybe even a clone!) acting as a moderator. That’s why he keeps volunteering for the job, or trying to push Gregory Ramirez2 into it. But they tried to let them "show their true colors" by doing things their own way, and now the whole plan has fallen apart. That's why he's so livid! Like you said, he's "obsessed," which is why he insults people, baits the mods, the super-mods, Anderlon, and even God Himself. He just wants to ban me and anyone else who ever mentioned him, questioned him, or even commented on him, effectively kicking us out for good. Sadly, that's just the kind of guy he is. He is definitely not the person he pretends to be.

stormyrider28 said:It looks like he has completely taken control over you and that everything he writes deeply upsets you, even though he doesn't even notice you.

Oh, he has absolutely "taken control"... I mean, if he’s so powerful and so confident in his vast knowledge, why doesn't he just start a brand new thread similar to this one? Or maybe it stings because others have realized that the "authors" behind the texts he cites are nothing but charlatans, frauds, manipulators, and snake oil salesmen—sorry, I meant book and article peddlers—targeting naive people and desperate souls looking for any way out. They make a killing off it, and I really wonder if he takes a cut of that too. Or maybe he's just terrified that he might end up in the same position as the people he tries to target, given his own questionable track record.
But honestly, it feels like you're getting caught up in the same nonsense, so maybe you're a little obsessed too? Huh?

stormyrider28 said:You're just a pathetic loser, the likes of which this forum has never seen. And as for calling me a troll, well, there isn't a bigger troll on this entire forum than you. You just show up here to insult people who know a hundred times more than you do and keep dragging every single topic back to your personal vendettas against people you'll never be on the level of.

Wahhh, wahhh, wahhh, but your little gun isn't any bigger than mine, wahhh...😁 🤦 Wipe those tears away, it's going to be okay... 🙂
Thanks for sharing your thoughts, but honestly, it just feels like you’re running out of actual arguments to bring to the table. Looking back at your last hundred posts, it's pretty clear where your "expertise" lies! It seems like you haven't quite mastered the art of a good debate or even how to pull off a classy, civil troll within the thread—which is kind of ironic, since that seems to be your whole vibe here.

Brenda Gonzalez12, it’s honestly so obvious when someone’s totally lost it by how obediently and extensively you comment on our posts... just throwing out accusations without a single link to back them up. There aren't any because you're straight-up lying. You can't provide a single source for anything you've typed because you lie the second you hit the keys. You just make stuff up, flip the truth 180 degrees, and then just repeat it over and over and over... but there are zero links, none, nada... and where did Anderlon even come from? Seriously, man, nobody even mentioned him, you're just completely tripping at this point... your bitterness and your issues are so transparent it actually makes me feel bad for you... just keep on lying and acting like a toddler, I guess, because that's clearly your limit since you CAN'T DO ANYTHING ELSE, and don't even bother trying to drop a link because we all know you don't have one.

For those who aren't in the loop:

So, here's the deal—if you think certain posts were deleted or that mods/admins just made them invisible to regular users (meaning they're still technically sitting right where they were before), well, they actually aren't being deleted most of the time.

The stuff that gets totally wiped out is basically just the "trash"—you know, things that don't hold any weight for law enforcement (like slander, insults, etc.) or anything that targets the mods and admins of the forum itself.

See, when an admin gets a formal subpoena from a court or the FBI, they are legally required to hand over whatever material is requested via that written order. Because of that—and because of the extra scrutiny it puts on the mods and admins too—any posts that could be considered illegal ARE NOT DELETED.

When it comes to those annoying trolls, honestly, most of the blame lies with the users themselves—you know, because people keep "feeding" them by replying to every single provocative post instead of just hitting the ignore button or staying silent.

Don't get me wrong, that doesn't let the mods or the admins off the hook—they’re definitely guilty of being lazy or just skimping on the budget to keep things running.

"You get what you pay for," right? 😉

I'm guessing that just like most sites out there, only Nice gets a paycheck while everyone else is basically volunteering their time.

I'm just saying this so people realize it's not necessarily the mods who are to blame for all the drama—it's actually the owners who refuse to invest in high-quality moderation.

Logic tells us that Nice isn't some kind of magician; she can't fix a mountain of flaws that are mostly the owner's fault anyway.

From what I can see, the owner still hasn't faced reality—plenty of forums have gone belly up for this exact reason, but people usually don't start complaining until it's way too late and they're already migrating over to a competitor's site.

Gregory Ramirez2, I think you’ve hit the nail on the head. Honestly, just ignoring them isn't a real solution; half the users here already have those guys on their ignore lists, and by tomorrow, the other half will probably be doing the same.
The thing is, though, that doesn't excuse the total lack of moderation we've been seeing for months now. It's precisely because things have been left unchecked that certain individuals feel they can push boundaries and break the rules in the most embarrassing ways possible.
That said, we all put our faith in Nico, trusting that the PDF platform will finally get some proper moderators soon.

Look, I’m going to be completely blunt here and recommend YOU to Nico, without any hesitation whatsoever.
Of course, that’s only if you actually feel up to it and want to...

In my eyes, you are the absolute gold standard of what a forum member should be. The fact that I don't think you've ever even received a warning, let alone a ban, speaks volumes about your reputation here—it really highlights your integrity and the respect you've earned from everyone.
I truly believe, and I am quite certain, that we couldn't find anyone better suited for the role, and I'm convinced you would meet every single one of Nico's expectations.

Nico and Gregory Ramirez2, I really hope you'll give this some serious thought...

If you’re looking for the absolute best candidate to step up as moderator, I’m your person.

What is wrong with you people? Seriously. This thread was opened to report specific behavior, yet here you all are, swarming in just to bicker and act like you’re the damn moderators. It’s pathetic. Honestly, I think everyone here should be banned from using the internet without some kind of professional medical supervision.

stormyrider28 said:Brenda Gonzalez12, you can really tell someone has lost their grip when they get this obediently detailed just to nitpick our posts. You throw out accusations without a single link to back them up—mostly because there aren't any and you're just making things up. For every single thing you've typed here, you won't be able to provide a single link because you're lying the second you hit "post." You just invent stuff, flip the truth 180 degrees, and loop it over and over without any proof... and where did Anderlon even come from? Seriously, nobody even brought him up! You are completely lost.

Good grief, man, please actually read what you're writing! You're accusing me of being insulting, then Napa accuses me of accusing you... yet neither you nor Napa have provided a single link to prove any of it. And now you're telling *me* I need to post links? To what? To all your nonsense and lies that you can't even verify?
Just take a breather, buddy... you're totally spiraling. 😒😵😵🤣🤣

bluemason3 said:Look, I’m not suggesting she’s being subjective with her moderation because of that; that’s a stretch.

Besides, half the admin team is tied together by family ties—not specifically her, mind you—and while it isn't quite as blatant an instance of nepotism as what we see with bluecyclist64 and the rest of that Anderlon clan, I think you might be overthinking things.

But honestly, what does it matter? Nobody chooses their relatives, and the forum remains open to everyone.👍

What was all that about? Can't you just let me be?

By the way, I flagged your post, so I'd appreciate it if you'd leave my family out of this.

Ethan Barrett22 said:Look, I’m just going to be completely blunt here—I’ll say it without even a second of hesitation: I am officially recommending YOU to Nico!
Of course, if you can even manage to do that—and if you actually want to!

You are! Honestly, this person is the absolute gold standard for what a forum member should be! Honestly, I don't think you've ever even seen a warning card, let alone been banned—and honestly, that’s probably the best way to be! Honestly, I’m just sitting here feeling a little overwhelmed by all the kind words! It really means the world to me that you’ve noticed how much I try to contribute around here. I always aim to be someone people can count on—someone who keeps things respectful, stays level-headed, and actually adds something meaningful to the conversation rather than just adding to the noise. I know I can get a little carried away sometimes (guilty as charged!), and I definitely have my moments where I ramble on longer than necessary, but I truly do my best to keep everything fair and friendly. Being seen as a reliable part of this community is honestly one of the best compliments I could ever receive. Thank you so much for saying that; it genuinely made my day!
To be perfectly honest, I’m feeling pretty certain about this: we really can't do much better than what's currently on the table. I am absolutely convinced that if we try to look elsewhere, we're just going to end up spinning our wheels! He absolutely lived up to everything I expected from Nicin!.
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What was I saying earlier? Well, here it is in black and white. These are my actual reasons for why we need to just scrap all these threads entirely. It’s not even about anyone having a disagreement or a clash of opinions—it’s honestly just a few little ego trips from people who are clearly just hungry for mooooooore power!

Ethan Brooks59 said:He’s absolutely livid! Honestly, it’s kind of heartbreaking to watch—he’s just totally obsessed and looks like he’s about to burst into tears because he can't grab hold of what he was aiming for. It's such a mess! Think of this as having your very own private playground where you can say whatever is on your mind without any filter! It’s basically a space where anyone trying to hide behind the excuse of being a "troll" just to stir up trouble gets an immediate ban. Of course, the catch is that the person running the show would essentially be policing themselves—either acting as their own moderator or appointing a clone to do the dirty work. That’s exactly why this person is volunteering to take charge of the spot, or they're trying to push Gregory Ramirez2 into the role instead! Well, they basically let them try to "prove" themselves by handling things their own way, and now the whole plan has completely fallen apart. That’s exactly why he’s so livid! Like you said, he’s totally "obsessed"—which explains why he’s out there hurling insults, rambling about all those modes and supermodes, and even bringing Anderlon and God Himself into the mix. It’s honestly wild. If you or anyone else ever dares to mention something to him, ask a simple question, or even just leave a comment, he’ll immediately jump to banning you and kicking you off the platform for good. It’s such a shame, really, but that’s just the kind of guy he is. He isn't nearly the person he pretends to be online!

Ethan Barrett22 said:To be completely honest with you guys... I’ve given it some serious thought, and honestly, I am absolutely certain about this! Honestly, I really don't think we could do any better than this! I am absolutely, one hundred percent certain that... He absolutely lived up to everything I expected from Nicin!.
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It wasn’t actually Nicin's point—it was yours, Elizabeth Jackson... based exactly on what you wrote!
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Just imagine if something like that actually happened—if they went ahead and appointed a guy like that to be a moderator... honestly, who would even feel safe enough to speak their mind or share a different opinion? This is supposed to be a forum, for goodness' sake! But even now, I'm seeing people already trying to intimidate others. It's just not right.

Gregory Ramirez2 said:When it comes to those problematic forum users, honestly, most of the blame lies with the community itself. It’s because we basically "feed" those trolls by engaging with their bait instead of just staying quiet or hitting that ignore button immediately.

That doesn't mean the mods or the site admins aren't also on the hook—sometimes it’s just pure laziness or they're trying to cut corners on the budget to save a buck.
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Then you have the type of guy who is actually supposed to be protecting everyone's right to speak up equally. Good grief.

It’s truly wild what an ego trip can do to people...

bluecyclist64 said:What was the point of this? Still can't get over me, I guess?

By the way, I reported your post, so leave my family alone.

I can move past you ditching me for Blue-White, but I just can't overlook your lack of musical taste and that Hendriksofili obsession.👎

Take a look at the alternative subforum right now. Seriously, just go look at it. What exactly do you see there?
It’s honestly pretty telling that ever since they shut down that thread where those total frauds were out there peddling absolute garbage like it was gospel, the whole "clash" on the alternative forums has just vanished. There’s no more friction between the people actually looking for hard evidence and the scammers trying to sell us snake oil. It’s all gone quiet because the con artists finally lost their platform to fleece everyone.
Honestly, we don't even need a dedicated moderator at all. It would be more than enough if the supermoderator just stepped in to shut down threads that are nothing but blatant lies, people making wild accusations without a shred of evidence, or those obvious money-making schemes where people are clearly profiting indirectly. That's really all it takes.
If you look at this from a purely scientific standpoint, the whole system finally swung back into equilibrium once that massive wave of absolute nonsense—the very thing causing all this instability—was effectively shut down by Nice.

So, what am I even supposed to say about this?

Ethan Barrett22 said:...
Look, I’m going to be completely blunt here and say this without any hesitation at all: if you're looking for someone, I am wholeheartedly recommending you to Nico.
Of course, if you’re even capable of doing it—and more importantly, if you actually have the will to follow through...
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It honestly baffles me that our chief little con artist didn't have the sense to color-code all that text and throw some bold formatting in there just to give his nonsense a bit more weight. 😁
I’m expecting a thank-you note from Gregory Ramirez2 pretty soon, at which point he’ll likely jump on the bandwagon and recommend Elizabeth Jackson without even thinking twice about it.😁
Look, guys, you both got caught red-handed lying, and frankly, that’s all the proof I need to say you're absolutely not cut out for a moderator role.

Mark Cruz15 said:Let’s be real: I am quite clearly the most qualified candidate for this moderator position.

👍 🙏

It is truly fascinating to watch how those who claim to follow an alternative lifestyle, the spiritualists, and the wellness gurus all scramble over one another just to fight for the most mediocre, worldly positions imaginable. 😁

Consider this another vote of confidence for Jessica Morris6!

Mark Cruz15 said:I am the perfect candidate for moderator.

Are you volunteering?! 😲

Grab them and appoint them before they change their minds! 😁

mistybison said:Wait, you're actually volunteering?! 😲

Someone grab him and get him in here before he changes his mind! 😁

So we've got a moderator who can't handle an alternative?

bluemason3 said:I can certainly move past you ditching me for Blue-White, but I don't think I can ever forgive your complete lack of musical taste and that whole Hendriksofili obsession. 👎

All right, all right... If listening to Hendrix is actually causing you this much existential dread, maybe I should suggest Sead Lipovača instead—though you might end up just craving an Ibrahim-Pr fix after that.🥳

Jamie Rivera78 said:Is there a moderator who can't handle an alternative viewpoint?

Fairness is the priority here. 🧐

Being a moderator is quite a challenge these days, especially on subforums dedicated to topics like "Alternative Views," "Spirituality," or "Religion." It feels like we have two extremes dominating the space: on one side, you have trolls looking for arguments, and on the other, you have hyper-skeptics who just mock everything being discussed. I believe this environment has driven away the more serious contributors and made moderation roles undesirable.

I am honestly not sure what the solution might be... 🤷

Wipe out 80% of the PDF backlog in just three months.