Moderation on PDF: Alternatives to the Science Edge V forum

stormyrider28 said:Hey, neoneagle93! I see you’ve finally noticed it too. It looks like Brenda Gonzalez12 has been rocking that signature for months now, and honestly, it’s a total mess. Not only is it breaking all the rules by being way too long—it takes up way more lines than what we're allowed—but it’s actually pretty toxic. She’s out there using it to insult and harass other members, which is just not okay. It’s definitely time someone did something about it!
Hey Nico, would you mind taking a look at this and getting it sorted out? Thanks!

If you’ve actually got something meaningful to contribute, please do me a huge favor and report it to the moderators up top instead of just cluttering things up! Honestly, just dump your thoughts over on the LJES or the US boards. It’s really not that hard—just read the rules once in a while before you start trying to lecture everyone else. Thanks!

stormyrider28 said:Brenda Gonzalez12, when I mentioned those links! I was actually referring to those accusations you made! Honestly, you’ve been going after everyone else, but especially Elizabeth Jackson! Ever since I started following this alternative sub, it feels like you're constantly attacking her and throwing insults her way. What really bugs me, though, is that you never actually bother to drop a single link to any of her posts to prove she was even breaking the rules. It just feels constant!

Do I really need to link your own post just to prove you're lying? You basically took a massive dump on my reputation! You wrote exactly what you wanted to say, but man, you really stepped in it this time. It’s honestly hilarious because it reminds me exactly of how fadedgull42 messed up—remember when she was throwing around all those threats about defamation lawsuits? She couldn't actually find a single thing to back herself up, so she just tucked tail and ran. Now she’s just hiding away behind an "ignore" list. So, come on, why don't you show me these "horrific profanities" regarding najin maca that supposedly had you so worked up? You acted like it was your own personal tragedy! Did you actually find them and post them here? NO, you didn't. Seriously, stop with this nonsense, gnu. You're just trolling the thread with ad hominem attacks because of some obviously twisted motives.

Look, if Elizabeth Jackson needs a lawyer or just someone to walk her through things, she’ll find one herself. There’s really no need for you to step in acting like her legal counsel—unless, of course, you’re actually some sort of clone profile of hers! Honestly, she knows exactly where she stands and exactly how she messed this up. From here on out, she should probably just keep it quiet and stop handing out all that "brave" advice to everyone else.
If you're really dying to know what actually went down, just go ahead and ask him!

stormyrider28 said:He really is the gold standard for what a forum member should be—honestly, just like Gregory Ramirez2! Honestly, if you look at their track record, I don't think they've ever even been banned! They really are the gold standard for how to be a decent, respectful member of an online community.And honestly, I’m pretty certain that even people like that are... There is absolutely no way they would ever dream of hurting anyone! Honestly, they would make absolutely incredible moderators! And honestly, if we're looking at who else could step up, there are plenty of other great candidates too. I have to say, fadedgull42 is such an incredibly sharp and genuinely classy person to have around here on the forums! Honestly, I really think she’d be an incredible moderator! She just has that vibe, you know? She’d be absolutely perfect for the role. Honestly, if you’re looking for someone to bring onto the team, you really can't go wrong with the folks who are deep into alternative methods but have also proven themselves to be incredibly professional and level-headed. They've shown they know their stuff, but more importantly, they actually play well with others. To me, those are exactly the kind of people who would be a stellar choice!.
There are a few others on the list too, like chilout23, though I think they mentioned somewhere that they aren't really interested in taking on the role. And then there’s Gregory Ramirez2—man, if only he had access to some alternative treatments if the standard options aren't working out... Honestly, being a moderator sounds like a pretty tough gig! Honestly, that’s just not for me. It sounds like such a massive undertaking, and frankly, it would take way more time than I could ever spare! I'm already running around like crazy as it is...

Honestly, it feels like you only jumped into this thread to play the part of a clone or some kind of parachute blogger—you clearly haven't done any homework on the topic at all! You started off by throwing out a few inaccuracies right out of the gate, which pretty much disqualifies you from being taken seriously as a voice for change here. Look, you’re more than welcome to hold your own opinions, but that’s really not what this discussion is about.

Jerry White29 said:Brenda Gonzalez12, you're seriously typing on two computers at once again...

Oh, absolutely! You too.
But hey, I actually have two hands... do you? 😁😁👍👍

On a side note, what happened to that whole list of our clones? You, me, neoneagle93, zombie, smart Farth, HepokS2... honestly, who could even remember them all anymore? It feels like nobody even bothers mentioning them lately..
🍿

So, I just got flagged for a post where I called out a specific thread about cancer treatment. In that one, Brenda Gonzalez12 was being super gross, basically implying I was getting turned on—then telling me he wasn't going to help me with that and that I should just head over to the Mayo Clinic instead. Now that post is gone, and Brenda Gonzalez12 is acting all smug, claiming it never even happened and laughing at us because we can't link to it since it’s been deleted.

Can someone please explain exactly which rule I broke here? You mods can still see everything in the backend, so it shouldn't be hard to figure out who's lying and who's telling the truth. Just to make your lives easier, the post went up late in the evening on September 23, 2018, maybe early on the 24th. Anyway, hope that helps you track it down. I know you guys are swamped trying to keep this place from turning into a total dumpster fire, so I get that mistakes happen. It happens to the best of us. 👍

Cheers and take care

Gregory Ramirez2 said:So, maybe it’s time to shake things up a bit.
Maybe we could let the users pick the mods through a public vote—sort of like a democratic election.
Basically, people who actually want to moderate a specific sub-forum or section step forward voluntarily, and then everyone else votes on the candidates.
That way, you get free labor chosen by the community itself.

Solid idea. Honestly, it would be way fairer, more logical, and—not to mention—way EASIER than the current setup where the existing mods just hand-pick their successors. It cuts out the bias and speeds up the whole process.

Anyway, if this proposal actually gains traction, you've got my support.

I’m sure Nica and Christian Howard2 will give this some thought too. It’d make their lives a hell of a lot easier if we finally stopped burying them under this mountain of complaints and grievances—which, let's be real, isn't going to stop until the moderation situation gets sorted out. 🤷

neoneagle93 said:Seriously, what a complete mess! How can you even show your face after saying that?!
What kind of substances are you on to write something like this?!!?
Did you hit rock bottom and then just grab a shovel to dig an even deeper hole for yourself?

I honestly don't get why you're coming at me all of a sudden. I already told you straight up that I agree—having a user signature that insults people and mocks them is totally wrong... plus, I actually noticed his signature breaks the rules anyway because it's got way too many lines. So, I really don't see why you're attacking me like this...

Brenda Gonzalez12, back when everyone finally caught on that you and Linda Moore51 were actually the same person, you claimed it was totally against the rules to call someone a clone... yet here you are, doing it constantly. Look, I'm definitely not a clone, and honestly, feel free to run whatever checks you want. It seems like you're just tripping because I called out how you've been breaking the rules, so now you're lashing out at me and anyone else who doesn't see things your way. You'd really be better off actually sticking to the topics at hand instead of spending every single post hunting people down...

stormyrider28 said:I don't get why you're coming at me all of a sudden. I already told you straight up that I agree—having some random guy in a signature mocking people is wrong. Plus, I noticed his signature actually breaks the rules because it takes up way too many lines. So, why the personal attack?

If you want to join a debate, you have to actually follow the logic, right?
What exactly is the issue with Brenda Gonzalez12's signature?
That "gentleman" mentioned in his signature wrote those things himself, so is repeating what was already written really an insult?

Or are you claiming Brenda Gonzalez12 made it all up and that this "gentleman" didn't actually write it?
It’s just like how that same "gentleman" included things in his now-deleted signature that I never even said.
If you want anyone to take you seriously, you should probably take a closer look at what "your people" are doing.

But looking back at what you said, it's funny how your crush on the moderator, Elizabeth Jackson, makes it okay for her to spend months calling people idiots and mercenaries in her signature.
In fact, that bit about the mercenaries is still in there!
You don't have anything to say about that?!
That doesn't bother you at all?!

And now suddenly you're offended because a signature has too many lines?!
That's your biggest grievance here?
Bravo! Give yourself a medal!

stormyrider28 said:Brenda Gonzalez12, once everyone realized that you and Linda Moore51 are the same person, you started claiming it's forbidden to accuse someone of being a clone, yet you do it constantly. I am no clone, and I'm happy to undergo any check you want. You're only attacking me because I pointed out where you're breaking the rules, and you're always picking fights with anyone who thinks differently. You'd be better off focusing on the actual topics instead of hunting people down in every single post.

Don't bark at the neighborhood because of the village; bark because of yourself.
Everyone scratches where it itches.
As for who is talking about whom—it's all about integrity!
Let's be clear: I'm talking about specific phrases, I'm not calling anyone names.

fadedgull42 As expressed by:
I see that I’ve been issued a strike because of a post I made regarding... I’m going to go on the record here and say that a certain post over in the cancer treatment thread was completely out of line. Brenda Gonzalez12 decided to take a shot at me, making these rather insulting insinuations—I suppose she was trying to imply that I was somehow sexually aroused by the topic? It was uncalled for, to say the least.

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fadedgull42 said:Look, you moderators still have access to the entire post history, so it shouldn't be much of a struggle for you to figure out who’s being truthful and who's just spinning yarns. To make things a little easier on you, I'll point out that this specific post was written late in the evening on September 23, 2018—though, if I recall correctly, it might have already rolled over into the 24th.

Well, let me step in here for a moment to provide a little bit of clarity regarding what was just quoted.

It turns out everything fadedgull42 said was true; Brenda Gonzalez12 really was insulting her in the exact ways she described.

The controversial post where he was insulting her was deleted, yet somehow, there weren't even any sanctions applied. It’s a bit strange, I guess. 😕 (followed by about 20 other posts where they were incredibly blunt and insulting toward anyone who dared to disagree with them). 😕😕😕

That being said, Google’s servers tend to hold onto data a bit longer than most, so since I have a pretty sharp memory regarding those insults from Brenda Gonzalez12, I figured I’d just do a quick search. It didn't take much effort at all to find exactly what I was looking for.
The controversial post was indeed published on September 23, 2018—exactly as fadedgull42 pointed out—and that's just how it is. If you look back at page 178 of the thread... Cancer treatment.It seems like you might have sent an incomplete thought or a fragment there. I’m not quite sure what you were aiming to say, but if you could provide the full context or the rest of your message, I’d be more than happy to take a look and give you my thoughts on it. Looking forward to hearing more! Here? I suppose we could take a look.
You can clearly see, all at once, exactly what kind of language is being used here. I suppose it’s worth mentioning that Monty was actually quite decent. fadedgull42 (marked in blue). 🤦

For reasons that remain entirely unclear to me, that post didn't even earn a slap on the wrist, let alone a yellow card. 🤷...not to mention that whole string of rather blunt insults from Brenda Gonzalez12, which I've personally found to be... Right here. He just mentioned a few things, I suppose.

I don't really want to dwell on this any further; I’ll leave it to the moderators to handle things from here. Honestly, I just wanted to step in and offer fadedgull42 some support regarding that controversial post.

Greetings to everyone.

And of course, the very person who triggered this entire PETA discussion by breaking the rules is still out there doing it!
I have to ask, how much longer is this going to go on, people?
What exactly has this "gentleman" done to earn such a free pass from everyone here? Why are we just looking the other way?

The guy is "elegantly" editing his quotes to make it look like other people said things they never actually wrote.
And you're telling me that’s perfectly fine under the forum guidelines?!?!!?!?!

Ethan Barrett22 said:It looks like you might have sent an empty message or just a symbol! If there was a specific post or piece of text you wanted me to transform into that upbeat, detailed, and uniquely American voice, please go ahead and paste it. I'm ready to get to work!

Alright, let me jump in here and see if I can shed some light on what was being quoted!

It’s the honest truth—everything fadedgull42 said is spot on. Brenda Gonzalez12 really did insult her exactly the way she described.

So, I noticed that the controversial post where he was actually being straight-up insulting to her was deleted, yet somehow there weren't any sanctions handed out at all. It feels a little weird, doesn't it? 😕 (along with about 20 other posts where they were incredibly rude and insulted everyone who didn't agree with them, one by one). 😕😕😕

Well, since Google’s servers tend to hold onto things a little longer than most, I had a pretty easy time digging this up! Honestly, my memory is still sharp enough to recall exactly how much Brenda Gonzalez12 was throwing shade, so I just popped it into the search bar and found everything I needed in no time.
That controversial post was definitely published on September 23, 2018—just like fadedgull42 said! If you head over to page 178 of the cancer treatment thread, you'll find everything you need!It’s just like how... Hey everyone! Just checking in here! Sure thing, I can take a look!
You can all see pretty clearly now just by looking at the language they're using! Brenda Gonzalez12 was being incredibly disrespectful! fadedgull42 (marked in blue). 🤦

For some reason, that post didn't even get a slap on the wrist! Not even a yellow card. 🤷...not to mention that whole pile of blunt, pretty harsh insults from Brenda Gonzalez12, which I've personally... Hey there! Just checking in right here! I just threw a few things out there!

I'm going to step back from this topic now and leave things in the hands of the moderators to do their thing—they know how to handle it! Honestly, I just wanted to lend fadedgull42 a hand regarding that controversial post.

Hey there! Sending some good vibes your way!

So, come on, Elizabeth Jackson, tell me something—why didn't fadedgull42 react right away when it happened? Why didn't she jump on it immediately as an insult? Instead, she just sat there waiting for YOU to be the one to point out that it was actually an insult! Honestly, it’s kind of adorable and super interesting to watch. You two have such a fascinating dynamic going on, don't you? Ha!

Look, Elizabeth Jackson, you see what's happening here? You’ve taken a tiny snippet of my sentence completely out of context—something you didn't even ask for, mind you! Honestly, it's such a shady move. It feels like you're totally obsessed with my posts (and let's be real, it's pretty obvious now that you're absolutely livid!), but you're just cherry-picking words to twist them. It's like you're reading everything I write offline and then coming back to respond in this weirdly detached, neutral way. Seriously!🤦 It looks like you don't even have the energy to give me a straight answer!
And honestly, even the snippet you pulled to build that sentence looked a little off to me! It was basically just a reaction to what Nica was writing—which, let's be real, wasn't exactly making much sense anyway.Does anyone else feel like they're going to get harassed by every single person out there if they start asking around for links? It feels like once you put that request out into the universe, everyone and their mother is going to be jumping down your throat!" (Come on, Naja, be real with me here—just admit it! Is this actually your writing? I’m already reaching out to the site admins to see if there are any other original posts floating around so we can finally get to the bottom of this and find out what's true. It feels like she’s just trying to prove a point at this stage. And honestly, that’s exactly what fadedgull42 is getting at when she writes...So, where was it that Brenda Gonzalez12 insulted me? It was one of those subtle, shady little digs—he was basically insinuating (I think!) that I was getting all turned on or something. Honestly!Alright, let's see what all this "excitement" is actually about and what exactly she’s so worked up over! Honestly, if she finds that kind of thing stimulating, then hey, that’s her business and her problem. But here’s the thing: you can't just go around throwing threats at people and then act like nothing ever happened. That's just not how decent, normal communication works in the US, and it's definitely not going to fly with me!

Honestly, all they really needed to do was drop a link to the original post to prove their point! It’s not that complicated, right? I honestly can't help myself—I just have to share this! It’s one of those things that really belongs to me, you know? Like, it’s my own little corner of the world, completely my own. I feel so much more connected to it when I think of it as being uniquely mine! threat It’s honestly the same old nonsense we see from stormyrider28—that ridiculous tactic where he demands everyone else prove his own points just because he’s backed into a corner. It’s basically what happens when Elizabeth Jackson starts rambling once she realizes she’s got absolutely nothing left to say! Anyway, apparently, someone is planning to file a formal police report regarding... Lies (really?). All she had to do was provide a link to the specific post where I supposedly DIRECTLY accused > of being a killer (🤦????), which is exactly what she loudly claimed I did. Instead, she totally lost her nerve, covered her ears, ran away, and went silent. Since then, she hasn't said a single word about it—not even in her wildest dreams would she bring it up. And oh, how "offended" she was! What a coincidence that she suddenly remembered all of this yesterday, right after you lot started swarming the thread like a pack of wolves at the exact same time. It’s actually pretty fascinating how "hypnotized" you are, >; it would be worth looking closer at who is actually writing what and who is egging whom on.

You know, >, aside from the fact that you’re basically committing crimes here by handing out medical advice without any training, every single one of your posts proves that you are, as a self-appointed moderator, one of the absolute worst solutions for any sane person. You're just a pathetic, dishonest mess. And yet, you're powerless, because despite acting like a "know-it-all" expert, your supposed "mastery" over these topics has been exposed as pure charlatanism. For all your "expertise," it's become painfully obvious how miserable it actually is, since it's all built on links from scammers and frauds. 😁

Honestly, I’m glad you’re attempting to lead this crusade, because you're essentially revealing your true colors and showing everyone exactly how you’d moderate if you were ever put in that position. At least > is intelligent enough to stay quiet and let others take the praise, but that seems way too hard for you; you're losing your cool more and more with every post. Hehe
. It's pretty funny seeing a hardcore vegan with this much energy... though maybe there's more to uncover soon...

neoneagle93 said:So what’s actually the issue with Brenda Gonzalez12's signature?

Man, I already told you... It's exactly what you just admitted yourself—you confirmed it! We've got a user running a signature for months that basically insults everyone on the forum, plus I noticed his signature is way too many lines long. That's a direct violation of the signature rules, you know that as well as I do...

neoneagle93 said:But then again, looking at what we were talking about before, if your little crush on the moderator, Elizabeth Jackson, spends months calling people idiots and mercenaries in her signature, then I guess it's totally fine.
More importantly, that part about the mercenaries is still in the signature!

Wait, neoneagle93, I have no idea what you're even talking about? I'm looking at her signature right now and I don't see any problem. Honestly, it seems like what you said earlier is true—everyone goes where they feel like it, and you're just proving that point with yourself right now. You're bothered by some random link that has nothing to do with anyone here, but you clearly saw yourself in it, so that's why it's getting under your skin...

neoneagle93 said:Who's talking about respect?!
Look, let's get one thing straight... I'm just talking about specific phrases here, I am definitely not calling anyone names...

Oh, please... saying stuff like that to people on a forum isn't really an insult, is it? But apparently, someone putting a random link in their signature that has nothing to do with the community is such a massive deal that it's actually eating you alive... I mean, seriously, what kind of standards are we even using here? And if you're asking me if Brenda Gonzalez12's signature is the biggest issue out of everything... nah, it's not. The real mess was all those insults he was throwing around earlier, which you saw for yourself. Is that really okay with you?..

stormyrider28 said:Look, I already told you. You basically confirmed my point yourself—this user has had a signature for months that openly insults other members, and besides, I’ve noticed his signature is way too many lines long. That’s a direct violation of the signature rules, and you know it..

What exactly counts as an insult in his signature?
Why is it so hard to give me a straight answer?

And if those two extra lines of text are your biggest grievance....
Regarding the actual signature policy itself, I'm not entirely sure, so could you please drop a link to the forum rules where that's explained?

Where is this neoneagle93 person? I have no idea what you're talking about. I'm looking at his signature right now and I don't see any issue. It seems like what you said is true: people just go where they feel like going, and you're proving that right now by acting out. You're bothered by some random link that has nothing to do with anyone here, but you clearly saw yourself reflected in it, and that's why it's getting under your skin.

Of course you don't know, because I'm telling you he's had it in his signature for months—calling everyone who disagrees with him "idiots" and "sellouts."
Now he's changed it to just calling them "sellouts."
Like I told you before, you actually need to follow the discussion over a longer period.
You just parachute in like a skydiver without having any clue what's actually going on.
But naturally, you're going to defend him and put him on a pedestal.

And I assume it's obvious to you that calling other people "sellouts" is an insult and goes against the forum rules?
Just like how you just called me a sellout.

stormyrider28 said:Oh, please... saying things like that to other members isn't an insult, but the fact that someone put a link in their signature that has absolutely nothing to do with the community—now *that* is a massive deal, and it's clearly eating you alive. What kind of logic is that? And when you ask if Brenda Gonzalez12's signature is the biggest issue here—it's not. His insults were a much bigger problem, which you saw for yourself right here. Does that sit right with you?

I don't see any insults; those are just common idioms.
The last one was even explained to you.

It’s honestly exhausting how much nonsense people refuse to actually digest. Apparently, the issue isn't that he was calling her weak—it's that she actually stood up for herself. I mean, given what she had to say in that moment, anyone would be left absolutely speechless and totally stunned.
(not that I condone those fringe conspiracy theorists intentionally trying to bait her—and then actually bragging about how they succeeded in getting under her skin)

I find myself agreeing that insults simply aren't a productive way for civilized people to communicate—especially in spaces like this forum. In my view, such behavior should be met with rigorous consequences.

fadedgull42 said:I suspect that New Orleans and Sarah will give your proposal some serious thought. Honestly, it would probably make their lives a whole lot easier if we finally stopped burying them under this mountain of complaints and grievances. I fear, though, that we’ll be stuck in this cycle indefinitely unless the moderation situation actually gets sorted out. 🤷

I can't help but wish they would actually take the proposal into consideration, though I suspect they probably won't.
I suspect they’ll probably cling to those outdated moderator selection methods for quite a while longer—the ones that have already proven themselves to be pretty ineffective, just like you described. I mean, if you look at this PDF, I can't even find a single qualified moderator to recommend, which I guess serves as the ultimate proof of how flawed the whole system is. For months on end...). 😲
How is that even possible? 🤷

At this rate, they probably would have already scouted and recruited a volunteer for a trip to the Moon. 😵
It’s probably going to take quite some time before the administration actually comes around to accepting just how much is on the table here. I suspect there will be plenty of hesitation before they acknowledge the sheer scale of it all. It seems to me that a simpler approach would actually be the better way to go. I guess, if we’re being honest, there's a certain elegance in keeping things uncomplicated—it just feels more effective that way. It seems to be in everyone's best interest, and honestly, I think most people have already come to realize that. Everything you just laid out serves as both a primary driver and a significant bottleneck, which explains exactly why things are stalling. I suppose I might be looking for a PDF that covers several months' worth of data or documentation. It’s a bit vague, I know, but if you're trying to compile a multi-month report or perhaps an archive of monthly statements, let me know exactly what you need. I'd be happy to help you track down the right format or figure out how to organize those files. And still... It feels like there isn’t a single moderator in sight.

^You claim you aren't here to insult anyone, yet half of what you write boils down to this kind of passive-aggressive snark and constant provocation. Just being honest. 🙄

Abraham Lincoln said:That’s true, but whenever I think back to which were insulting 😂, it just feels like the ultimate proof that they've been completely outmatched and have absolutely nothing else left to throw at us...

Abraham Lincoln said:I can't speak for everyone else, because I don't personally experience it.
But lately, it has become incredibly obvious—almost blatantly clear—that certain are essentially tasked with silencing us or getting us kicked off this forum at any cost whatsoever, using every shameless tactic available to them.

Let’s get back to the actual reason this thread exists in the first place.

Moderator, thanks for being so incredibly quick to slap another red card on me, but I’m still waiting for an official ruling on this specific page of the thread. There is a user here who is absolutely running wild and causing chaos.

They actually had the nerve to attribute my sarcastic post to another user—they even quoted it as if it were theirs—and they’re still doubling down, claiming we’re all just clones of one another. Just look at how this discussion is spiraling on this page:

stormyrider28 said:Brenda Gonzalez12, once people realized that you and Linda Moore51 are actually the same person...

I honestly have to wonder if you’re genuinely incapable of connecting the dots on basic logic here, or if you just type nonsense for the sake of hearing your own voice.
Alright, let’s try this one more time, since apparently, I need to spell it out for you.
I am officially proposing that we take this straight to the supermoderator to prove once and for all who is running which clone account.
If it turns out that Brenda Gonzalez12 and I are indeed the same person, then we both get a permanent ban, no questions asked. But, if the investigation proves we are two separate individuals, then you get the permanent ban.
You see, I made this exact same proposal to the head administrator and the total snake oil salesman, Elizabeth Jackson. What do you think happened? Did he accept the challenge? 😁 Of course not; he shut down just like he always does the second someone hits him with actual, hard facts.
So, stormyrider28, are you going to step up and accept this proposal, or are you going to chicken out like the loyal follower of a con artist that you clearly are?

Roger Cooper91 said:Let’s get back to the actual reason this thread even exists.

Moderator, I appreciate you being so quick to hand out another red card—really, top-tier service—but I am still waiting for an explanation regarding this specific page of the thread. The user who prompted me to open this whole mess in the first place is currently running wild.

He literally attributed my sarcastic post to someone else—he actually quoted it as if it were them—and he’s still stubbornly insisting we’re clones. Just look at the typical trajectory of this conversation on this page:

I'm with you! It’s absurd—you start a thread practically begging for the biggest troll on the site to stop ruining discussions (which is exactly what Robert has been doing lately), and then some other user reports *you* because you called him an idiot. Some people simply don't care about whether someone is being reasonable or what their intentions are; they only care about ideological purity and endless bickering.

Jerry White29 said:I’m genuinely curious—are you actually incapable of connecting the dots here, or are you just typing for the sake of hearing your own voice?
Fine, let's try this one more time.
I suggest we take this to the super-moderator to prove once and for all who is whose clone.
If Monty and I are indeed the same person, then we both get a permanent ban. However, if it turns out we aren't, then you get the permanent ban.
See, a proposal exactly like this was made to that main charlatan and snake-oil salesman, Abraham. What do you think happened? Did he accept? 😁Of course not; he folded, just like he always does when faced with actual arguments.
So, GNU, are you going to accept this proposal, or are you going to chicken out like the rest of those loyal followers of the con artists?

Your writing style and Monty's are as different as night and day.🤷

neoneagle93 said:And of course, the very person who started this whole PETA-style mess is still breaking the rules left and right!
Seriously guys, how much longer is this going to go on?
What exactly did this "gentleman" do to deserve such a free pass from the mods? Why are we just looking the other way?

The guy is actually "elegantly" editing quotes to make it look like other people said things they didn't even write!
And apparently, that’s perfectly fine according to the forum rules?!?!!?!?!

I'm right there with you. He even stuffs his signature with these totally nonsensical theories and pretends they belong to other users. It's basically just a fancy way of saying he's manipulating quotes, which should definitely be a punishable offense.

And he does it all the time.