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F1 Italian GP - Monza (Sept 2, 2018)

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neonfox65 neonfox65 Regular
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#181 ·
darkmarlin16 said:Today's race was actually awesome—I was expecting a total snooze fest, but it turned out to be super intense. Too bad it didn't rain, just to see Ferrari suffer an even bigger embarrassment...

Rain only falls when Mercedes wants it to😁—they probably have some secret antenna installed just to summon the storms
crimsonhawk23 crimsonhawk23 Member
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#182 ·
fadedpanther51 said:In those thirty-plus races, he had a million close calls and somehow came out unscathed—I guess you could say he’s got that relentless German engineering spirit where once something is built, it just stays together. 😁

Maybe that’s where the issue lies—the reason Lewis keeps struggling with those sluggish starts. I guess his car might just be heavier because they've reinforced the chassis to handle impacts like the one we saw today. 😬
Nicholas Newman2 Nicholas Newman2 Member
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#183 ·
Gary Palmer8 said:Where did Gill even come from? 🤣 Are you actually seeing anyone overreacting to Hamilton's drive here? Honestly, Massa and Rosberg have made more noise about it than any Hamilton fans ever could.

It’s a good thing a person doesn't let others make them blush. You can't choose who you end up rooting alongside; you just have to hope your corner has fewer "toxic" types.
swifttiger75 swifttiger75 Active Member
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#184 ·
neonfox65 said:???

Look, there was a battle and Vettel messed up. At Spa, Hamilton lost. How can you say there wasn't a duel?

And if you finish ten seconds behind, you still screwed up, right!? 👍
Brenda Hughes7 Brenda Hughes7 Newcomer
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#185 ·
crimsonhawk23 said:Maybe that’s actually why Lewis keeps having those sluggish starts—he’s basically driving a tank because they had to beef up the chassis just to survive collisions like the one we saw today at 😬

Honestly, Lujo’s start wasn't even that bad today, especially when you look at how things went down in France or Britain..
crimsonhawk23 crimsonhawk23 Member
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#186 ·
Henry Wilson34 said:Lujo actually had a decent start today—compared to, say, France or Britain...

Well, I know it wasn't 👍 I suppose the comment was more about how incredibly sturdy the Mercedes is. At Silverstone, after a hit from Kimi, half the grid would probably be sitting in the gravel or limping back to the pits for a massive repair bill. This one just kept going without any real damage at all. 😁
neonfox65 neonfox65 Regular
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#187 ·
swifttiger75 said:And when you're done in ten seconds flat, you're still screwed, right...?! 👍

That duel was short—but sweet... 🙂 Or you know that whole "do it quick, but make it legendary" vibe... 🙂

Brian Campbell36 Brian Campbell36 Active Member
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#188 ·
Gary Palmer8 said:Where is Gill now? �� Do you actually see anyone here overreacting about Hamilton's driving? Honestly, Massa and Rosberg have made more noise about this than any of the Hamilton fans ever could.

Hamilton simply benefited from some good fortune during that duel, managing to secure the win despite Kimi’s lackluster performance. Had Vettel shown even an ounce of tactical intelligence, he would have let Lujo through first and then attempted a move using DRS. Hamilton played it aggressively because he holds the points advantage and, quite frankly, enjoys the favoritism of the entire FIA organization. Is it any wonder? At every significant level within the FIA, there sits an Englishman; no one else seems to be granted access to those positions—it is strictly reserved for people from the UK.👎

Vettel believes that Hamilton didn't leave him enough room;

"I don't think he left me enough space, and I had no choice but to make contact."

https://www.f1puls.com/32576/vettel-...-i-hamiltonom/

If a driver actually possessed some grit and followed Hamilton's lead, he would have forced the issue rather than being so soft, which ultimately led to his downfall. He should have sent both himself and his opponent straight into DNF mode.

Max was handed that ridiculous penalty solely because he found himself battling against Mercedes and Bottas.🤦
The FIA is such a laughable organization that even the likes of Dorn and MotoGP would laugh at them out loud.🤦

That is my final word on the matter. I won't be quoting you anymore, as I've been strongly advised to simply put you on my ignore list.🍿
Ashley Ramirez4 Ashley Ramirez4 Active Member
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#189 ·
So I'm looking at Kimi on two softs and Vettel on one soft??? I mean, it’s honestly no surprise they're struggling with the soft compound when they barely got any actual track time with them—it seems pretty wild to me. They basically drove half the race on those tires without even testing them properly (and Kimi was on 2/3 for most of it).
Jason Campbell70 Jason Campbell70 Veteran
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#190 ·
Brian Campbell36 said:Lewis Hamilton got lucky in that duel, pulling off the win despite Kimi being a bit lackluster. If Sebastian Vettel had shown more tactical sense, he would have let Luja pass and then tried to snatch it back using DRS. Hamilton played it aggressive because he’s sitting on those championship points and has the full support of the FIA. Every major role at the FIA seems to be held by an American; nobody else gets a look-in for those spots, just the folks from the USA. 👎

Vettel thinks Hamsta didn't leave him enough room;

"I don't think he left me enough space, and I had no choice but to make contact."

https://www.f1puls.com/32576/vettel-...-i-hamiltonom/

If a driver actually used his head—and some grit—he would have collided with Hamsta instead of playing it soft and getting burned. He should have sent them both into DNF mode.

Max only got that ridiculous penalty because he was fighting against Mercedes-Benz and Valtteri Bottas. 🤦
The FIA is such a joke; even Dorn and MotoGP are laughing at them.🤦

That's my take. I'm done quoting you; I've been advised to just put you on my ignore list. 🍿

Those first two sentences baffle me.
Brian Campbell36 Brian Campbell36 Active Member
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#191 ·
Anthony Baker84 said:I’m looking at the strategy here—Kimi on two softs and Vettel on one soft? Is it really any surprise they are struggling with the soft compound when they haven't even had a proper chance to test it on track? It seems utterly irrational to run half the race on tires they haven't even vetted (especially considering Kimi's usage of two or three sets during the race).

Furthermore, Kimi himself faltered at the start; why didn't he act like a true No2 driver by allowing Vettel space and keeping Hamsta behind until a gap could be established? It is quite evident that Arrivabene is several tiers below the caliber of Toto Wolff.

When Toto Wolff issues an instruction, it is executed immediately and without question, much like a disciplined water carrier managing a lead driver. In contrast, Arrivabene frequently conducts himself like an amateur rather than a seasoned professional.
crimsonhawk23 crimsonhawk23 Member
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#192 ·
Brian Campbell36 said:Even Kimi messed up the start—it’s not exactly standard procedure for a No2 driver to let Vettel through while keeping Hamsta tucked behind until he can build a gap,

Maybe just load up any sim racing game, set it to Indianapolis (avoiding a rolling start this time), and see if you can pull off passing P2 from Pole Position while still keeping P3 in your rearview mirror. That might give you the answer you're looking for.
Gary Palmer8 Gary Palmer8 Active MemberOP
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#193 ·
Brian Campbell36 said:Even Kimi messed up at the start—it wasn't like the second driver let Sebastian Vettel through and kept Lewis Hamilton behind until he could build a gap. Honestly, Arrivabene is leagues below Toto Wolff when it comes to strategy.

Toto knows exactly when to call it—like telling a water boy to hold steady—and Kimi just follows orders without any pushback. Meanwhile, Arrivabene acts more like an amateur than a pro most of the time, haha.

Well, even the Ferrari second driver, Lewis Hamilton, had to back off so Sebastian Vettel could catch up, but Lewis was just too fast and Sebastian was way too slow...
crimsonhawk23 crimsonhawk23 Member
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#194 ·


Right at the beginning of the video, Sebastian Vettel claims he was squeezed! 🤣 He practically pushes Lewis Hamilton off the track—though, I suppose, he’s the one being squeezed 😬--if you look at it that way.
Brandon Evans5 Brandon Evans5 Member
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#195 ·
Last year, Sebastian Vettel had his engine blow up during the races in the USA and Malaysia, so I’m honestly not holding my breath—I can't say for sure if he’ll manage to dodge another technical DNF this season.
Drew Bennett68 Drew Bennett68 Regular
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#196 ·
crimsonhawk23 crimsonhawk23 Member
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#197 ·
Classic Italian culture in action 🐔 I can't help but wonder how they'd handle signing with Ferrari 🤣
electriccanyon6 electriccanyon6 Newcomer
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#198 ·
Man, Sebastian Vettel has just handed away way too many points with those silly mistakes this season—it’s honestly going to cost him the championship at this rate. Even though I've got a feeling Ferrari might actually have the slightly faster car right now, I still think Mercedes-Benz has the edge when it comes to the drivers, especially with Lewis Hamilton leading the charge.
electriccanyon6 electriccanyon6 Newcomer
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#199 ·
This track is an absolute Formula 1 icon—easily the greatest of all time! I mean, when you look at legends like the Circuit of the Americas or Silverstone, they just don't hold a candle to this place. All these newer tracks being built lately? They’re honestly twice as bad.
Nicholas Newman2 Nicholas Newman2 Member
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#200 ·
Honestly, what can I say? Cheering is one thing, but crossing the line into insults is where you lose all respect.

I can probably guess how people would act if they were actually on his payroll. Just like any other hypocrite, they’d worship him and lift him up to impossible heights, then jump down the throat of anyone brave enough to offer even a bit of criticism.🤮

Just to be clear, I’m talking about the ones doing the barking, not every single one of his fans.

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