Biased moderation by Ball and Wacky

I’m just wondering why everyone gets banned instantly if they break even one tiny rule, unless they’re part of the inner circle favored by Mr. Gray, where posts just magically get deleted instead.
I already went back and forth with slypuma12 about this, and he actually promised me that Gray would get a partial ban during the next review. I’ve got the PM to prove it if I need to post it.
Look at today—he insulted Womcat, and of course, Tyler Vaughn7 just wiped it away like nothing happened.

So, basically, this post of mine gets flagged immediately. Meanwhile, Gray calling me a "target slut waiting under Sarah's feet for scraps" didn't even get a warning, not even after my appeal.
Wacky gave Dario a partial ban for insulting someone, but Gray doesn't even get a slap on the wrist for calling people "sexually frustrated freaks who get off on their own moms" and stuff like that.

Could rustydrifter10 or anyone else take a look at those deleted posts and figure out why the mods on DiK give certain people such blatant special treatment? Thanks.
(Happened today on the thread about what we think of the users, and earlier in the chat; I can provide dates if needed.)

You got the card because I happen to be here right now, and since the notification popped up, I figured I’d jump on it immediately.
Other people's cards aren't exactly your concern.

So what, I'm just supposed to ignore people being straight-up abusive without even getting a warning? Or deal with others getting special treatment while they trash people?

Look, I asked for someone else to look at those posts since I already went back and forth with slypuma12 about this, but you just shut me down and kept playing favorites—deleting some posts while handing out cards to others.

And trust me, this isn't the first time anyone's complained about how you run things here.

So you really decided to go halfway through a partial solution, thought you had everything under control, and then I came along and messed up your whole plan... Well, yeah, I suppose I can see why you'd be feeling disappointed right about now...

Tyler Vaughn7, I’m asking for an actual assessment of what you deleted today without handing out any bans. Other people were complaining about how nasty everyone was being toward that female user—and you didn't even issue a ban—not to mention my own post.
Also, I'm calling foul on that post about the meth whore and all that crap. I've already argued this with you guys and gotten nowhere, so now I'm asking the supermods if that post really didn't deserve a ban for being such a blatant insult.
slypuma12 admitted himself that was the last one, so I'm wondering where we stand now. Just following protocol here.
Btw, the PDF is called DiK, not Tyler Vaughn7 & friends.🙂

dustypilot11 said:Tyler Vaughn7, I’m asking for an assessment of what you deleted today without issuing any bans—the stuff where others were complaining about how poorly a certain female user was being treated, yet you didn't step in—and also this post of mine.
I’m also lodging a complaint about that post regarding the whore on meth and all that. I’ve already argued this with you, but nothing came of it, so now I’m asking the supermods if that post really didn't deserve a ban for being such a blatant insult.
Wacky wrote himself that it was the last one, so I’m asking what the deal is now. Basically, just following protocol here.
By the way, PDF is called DiK, not Tyler Vaughn7 & friends. 🙂

In that entire thread, not a single post was actually banned, even though there were plenty of inappropriate comments, so I just wiped them to try and maintain some semblance of a decent atmosphere in the topic. Honestly, your post wouldn't have even been flagged if that user hadn't complained about being insulted, and let's be real, it was an insult (it’s not your first time, either; you often seem to lose your cool and then try to play it off. It's just your type... but sometimes someone actually takes offense and reports it).
It isn't "Tyler Vaughn7 & friends," but it certainly feels like it's turned into these little cliques and groups that migrated over from Off once the moderation team grew too large there. They moved to DiK just to keep up the same old drama from the previous PDF, and I guess the moderators were expected to act like remote controls so you could all settle your scores amongst yourselves. Feel free to push each other around via private messages as much as you want; fight, make up, form cliques, and break them apart—but don't drag me into your vendettas. That's all I have to say.

Even though I’ve decided to step away from this forum for good, and probably won't be back anytime soon, I just can't walk away without saying this...

It’s funny how you straight-up accused me and Daria of being the ones who brought chaos to this board. You were pretty harsh with me, claiming there were never any issues before we showed up and that Frank and the others got along perfectly until we arrived. It's interesting to note, especially since we haven't even been active here for a while, yet suddenly a new user pops up and thinks it’s totally fine to drop a massive wave of insults and filth without facing any consequences—just because nobody bothered to hit the report button, I guess...
I mean, if nobody complains, does that mean the insults didn't even happen? Or do they just get deleted in the name of maintaining a "lovely" atmosphere?

And there it is, right on cue: that classic old argument about "those people from the Off section"...
Since when did this forum split into those from Off, those from the US side, or those from Dik?
Isn't a forum supposed to be one single community where people post based on their interests, hobbies, or the users they vibe with? Since when did we start dividing ourselves into little territories?

You've consistently pushed down every user on this board. You drove Frank to leave, you gave Daria a partial ban, and you systematically picked at me until I finally had enough and walked away from the whole thing...

I'm only writing this to stand up for dustypilot11 and all the sane people left here who are exhausted from constantly trying to prove things that should be obvious to anyone with half a brain. It seems like nobody else has the guts to speak up, probably because they're terrified of getting banned. They're too scared to say they're just as sick of this nonsense, the toxic communication, and the way you moderate...

You actually sent me a private message personally, claiming everything was fine until Dario and I appeared. When I complained about the constant insults and the garbage being posted everywhere, your only response was telling me to just leave the forum...

It seems perfectly normal to you when a user calls another woman a slut, a drunk, or a bitch, or calls a guy "sexually frustrated" or some other garbage. Let's be clear: it’s only considered "normal" as long as those words aren't directed at you. Because if someone dares to use a single dirty word toward you, out of sheer helplessness against your arrogance, then—boom—you get a partial ban!

So, listen up, moderators: you aren't better than anyone else, you aren't special, and you aren't protected like polar bears. Your egos aren't bigger than anyone else's on this site. An insult aimed at you isn't somehow "heavier" than an insult aimed at any other user. If you wouldn't want to hear a certain phrase directed at your own face, that should be enough for you to decide if it's an insult or not...

So, Tyler Vaughn7, if you're having trouble judging, just imagine someone looking you in the eye and saying, "Tyler Vaughn7, you're a total jerk..." and then decide for yourself if that deserves a penalty or not...👍

As for everything else, it's on you. You're the ones responsible for allowing this filth on the sub-forum, because you encourage this style of communication and basically coddle its biggest supporters...

And just as a little reminder:

And I was just wondering when you'd finally decide to jump into this whole thing...

You know me, I'm always on the right side of this... 👍

And just so I'm not shouting into the void:

To be honest, both Skene and Frank were getting along just fine. This whole mess started after you guys showed up. I have zero interest in digging into the backstory of your drama. All my colleague and I care about is keeping the vibe chill on this thread. If you've got beef, take it to the DMs. It doesn't affect anyone else anyway.

Look, Skene and I didn't have any issues until you and Dario arrived, and then everything went south. Just calm down or go find some other PDF that won't get under your skin so much.

So, let's recap:

he insulted Frank,
he insulted me,
he insulted Dario,
he insulted Wacky,
he insulted dustypilot11,
he insulted Womcat...

And you think these excuses actually make sense?

By the way, neither Frank, nor Wacky, nor Womcat are even from the Off boards, so that whole "spillover" argument doesn't hold water...

Sorry, but it looks like dustypilot11 was right all along...

1. Look, I already said if Gray keeps this up, there will be consequences. Whether that means a warning or a partial ban is up to my colleague and me, not you. I never actually mentioned a partial ban; you just jumped to that conclusion yourself. Next time, try reading the PM with a bit more nuance...

2. Yeah, Sarah, both you and Dario were warned because you stormed into the DiK like a damn hurricane and immediately started stirring the pot. Dario earned his partial on the DiK not because he insulted me, but because he was playing deaf and intentionally pushing back against moderation. And he does it constantly!

3. Even though we’ve warned you that things are going to tighten up, we’ve been keeping it chill, thinking you’d take the hint, cool off, and stop the constant instigating and provoking. Instead, because we let everyone slide, you end up acting out because things aren't going your way. (This part goes out to everyone reading this who isn't involved but is hanging out on the DiK. Hey guys! 👋)

Just let the mods do their jobs. Use the report button. Don't fight your battles in public—that's what private messages are for.

I've said my piece and I don't have anything else to add.

slypuma12, are you seriously trying to say Dario earned his partial ban while Gray didn't?

So you brought the whole Anthony chat over from Off, but what's your point?

Dario didn't get flagged because he went against the mods, he got hit because he stood up against the hate and the attacks on me in the "Anthony" chat just because I'm an American woman, and because he called you out for constantly ignoring everything being said.

Look, we all left that chat, so how is it possible that now other people are complaining and starting threads where they're just repeating everything I’ve already said and told you—everything you refuse to admit and keep denying?

What battles are you even talking about? Down there, there's a handful of people openly discriminating against users in every way imaginable—users who verbally attack everyone by writing the absolute worst things possible, which you guys just delete to maintain a fake sense of "good vibes," pretending nothing is actually happening.

Honestly, I don't even care anymore since I have no intention of writing anything else, but I couldn't just tune out something that hurts this much—the injustice you're consciously and deliberately tolerating. You gave Dario a partial ban because he offended you, so how can you believe that other users aren't hurt just as much when they're insulted, especially when they don't have your power to just kick them off the site?

The second anyone called a female user a slut, a drunk, or a traitor, they should have been slapped with a partial ban and a permanent ban immediately.

That's how you handle things, folks! That's where I stand! 👍

See ya...

Look, that wasn't intended as an insult toward Womcat, nor was it directed at Frank... it was all just harmless banter. But if you really want to go there, even dustypilot11 was on Dik-chatu telling everyone left and right that they were nothing but a bunch of drunks and alcoholics...

I didn't say a single insulting thing to you until you decided to start picking at me first, using all those metaphors to take shots at me and the other members of this forum....
You just can't seem to grasp that I am not the one causing you any trouble....I've told you that a hundred times already... sure, I might have used some inappropriate language once or twice, but plenty of others have done the exact same thing...

So, this user claims everyone else is just ganging up on her because they don't agree with her. Sarah... stop embarrassing yourself. You pick fights, stir the pot on purpose, and then play the victim when people actually snap back. I’ve had way too many long, exhausting arguments with you already. Not doing it again since you never listen to a word I say—you just always have to twist things to fit your own narrative.

I already explained why Dario got his perm, even if that wasn't even the point. Believe me or don't, I don't care. I've got zero reason to lie or hide anything. But of course, you had to hijack the thread and turn it into a "me" problem. Your ego wouldn't let you do anything else.

Any moderator feeling helpful, feel free to jump in here. Honestly, just give me a ban for this post so Sarah doesn't have to waste three seconds typing out a report reason just to hit that little triangle icon.

I'm done with the drama. Any more attempts to drag this out will just go ignored...

Hey, if any of the supermods aren't hating on me, could you please take a look at those deleted posts?

I don't see why I should feel embarrassed, slypuma12. If my accent gets under someone's skin, that's on them, not me.
Take a look at my posts, then look at yours, and maybe you'll figure out who actually needs to be embarrassed.

Besides, I’m not the topic here—I’m just standing up for what’s true. You don't need to explain anything else to me. Other users started this thread, so don't bother messaging me; go argue your points with the rest of the ladies on the Forum. 👍

And this isn't even about me. It's about all of you and the issues that other users are dealing with too, not just me.

By the way, what "advice" are you even talking about?
I haven't even said a word in the chat for weeks—back when that "great" user this thread is about was spending days insulting both me and Daria right in front of everyone.
And not one of you said a single thing until I finally reacted?
And then you have the nerve to write that above...🙂

Honestly, I don't have the time or the energy for this nonsense. Do whatever you want, I really don't care. I just happen to have a massive ego and a need to clear the air. Whatever. 🙂

slypuma12 said:1. I said Gray will get what's coming to him if he keeps this up. Whether that means a warning or a partial ban, that call is between my colleague and me, not you. I didn't mention any partial bans. You just assumed that part yourself. Next time, try actually reading the PM with some actual comprehension.

2. Yeah, Sarah and Dario, you both got warned because you showed up to the main chat like a damn tsunami, immediately starting to stir the pot with everyone else. Dario earned his partial ban on the main chat not because he insulted me, but because he was being deaf to the rules and intentionally pushing back against moderation. And he does it constantly!

3. Even though we warn you guys that we're going to tighten things up, we still act chill, thinking you'll take the hint, calm down, and stop instigating and provoking everyone. Instead, because we let you all slide so much, you end up getting hit because things aren't going your way. (This part goes out to everyone reading this who isn't involved but is hanging out in the main chat. Hey everyone! 👋)

Just let the mods do their jobs. Use the report button. Don't fight your battles in public; use private messages for that.

I've said my piece and don't have anything else to add.

1. So, what follows Gray is just deleting his inappropriate posts while everyone else gets banned?
Why didn't you answer why Gray wasn't sanctioned for "that bitch waiting for crumbs to fall from Sarah's plate"?

2. Exactly, we were warned the second we arrived, basically before we even realized what was happening.
I have no idea what you mean by "you guys from the off-topic section," other than assuming I'm being unfairly sidelined when I've actually been typing in the main chat longer than I have in off-topic right now. And the whole time, your little darling Gray has been poking at me, and I haven't even fought with him once. Did you have to close and clean up chats because of him or because of me? Was I even part of it? No. So where is this "public battle" you're talking about?

3. Did I address you and report the post properly? Did you react? You didn't. Then Tyler Vaughn7 shows up and gives me a ban while just deleting his posts, just like always. Is that what you call doing your job?
Did I open this thread so some supermod could review the deleted posts? Instead, you and Tyler Vaughn7 are attacking me personally, even though I wasn't even an issue to you until yesterday—I hadn't been banned or warned once. So it's okay for you to say "you're from off-topic, get out of here"? It's okay to call me a bitch just because I spent a few months in the off-topic section during my nine-year run on this forum? I really hope you don't have anything else to add in that tone. Just show the deleted, unsanctioned posts. Thanks.

I’m not going to get bogged down in whatever petty little forum drama you guys have going on—I don't spend enough time here for that anyway—but I noticed that since I joined the DiK section, nobody has labeled me as some Offovk type or given me a lecture on how to behave. Clearly, there's a reason for that. But my brief, accidental stint in that subforum (that thread Ljes started which got moved to Off) was cut short because some of the posts from certain users were just completely unreadable. Coming back to DiK today, it looks like the same childish nonsense is playing out all over again.
Can we just open a dedicated subforum for people to act like absolute thugs so they can vent their little frustrations and leave the rest of us users alone?

I have zero interest in getting dragged into petty arguments that feel incredibly childish. I’m stepping in to say a few things because, for better or worse, my name was dragged into this too. Honestly, I think Wackya is actually a great moderator, even if he did ban me once before. The claim that Dario received a partial ban because of some supposed "fascist" reaction is a flat-out lie. This whole mess started with a post of mine—which I can link here if needed—that he completely misinterpreted when he first jumped into the thread. He just doubled down and kept going regardless of how many times it was explained to him. To me, trying to link my heritage to any kind of imaginary extremist movement is a direct insult to me and my ancestors. That said, I’m not going to report his post on this specific thread.

I don't care about other playground bickering, and I don't bother engaging in those threads. I just felt the need to speak up and show some support for the guy.

That’s just not true.

The whole fight on Anthony's thread started when swiftranger46 posted, basically calling for everyone to sing songs about Cavoglave... claiming she’s disgusted by anyone who doesn't support Tomson.

If you’re going to jump in, at least tell the truth.

Between all that talk about the "tractor parade," those other threads filled with brainwashing and people attacking anyone with a different opinion, and then you personally linking to that Mexican forum to tell me I don't belong here... it’s all pretty "mature" and intellectual, isn't it? 👍

Dario was just the one who didn't go along with your posts, yet he got banned for nonsense that didn't even include personal insults. As for Parcial, he got flagged for things said to Wackya that aren't any worse than what most people down here say to anyone they disagree with every single day.

But anyway, that's not what we're talking about here.

That’s a lie. I specifically said I’d link my original post that started all this. If you really need me to, fine.

It’s also a total lie to claim I’ve ever posted a link to some Mexican forum on here or anywhere else. It’s simple: I’ve never been on one of those sites in my life. Not to you, and not to anyone else. Seriously, get it together.

There, I just called you a liar. If what you’re saying is actually true, proving me wrong should be easy for you. Come on then, let’s see the links.

Here’s the link to my original post that kicked this whole debate off:

Just like I explained to that random user—and everyone who actually follows this thread already knows—I called out both our President and the Mayor of New York City.