Pornography" in a PDF movie?

The whole mess is laid out right here: http://www.reddit.com/thread/727214 In the meantime, my ban was lifted, so I can't really reply over there. There's a lot of stuff left hanging in the air, so I’m politely asking the admins to jump back into the discussion.

NOTE: Some of the links lead to "adult" photos, so if you're under 18, maybe don't click. 😁

Anderson said:I don't think this is a message saying you aren't welcome on Reddit. Our policy on this is very similar to Google's policy and the policies of other mainstream sites that don't allow such explicit content; I mean, it's nothing special that we don't allow it. It's absolutely nothing personal, it's simply crossing the line, going against the rules, and there's a penalty for that. Whether that's too strict or not is debatable, but that's how it is now. Also, it isn't right to appeal to your tenure on the site, because that implies advocating for double standards (different rules for those who deserve it? — no.). Why did we adopt a standard that applies to mainstream sites? Besides the fact that I think that standard is perfectly acceptable and fine, since there are kids and sensitive souls involved, I won't hide the other reason — it's also a requirement from our sponsors, and since Reddit is a fairly large site, it has expenses that sponsors cover. I'd say your ban is actually less unpleasant than having an ad pulled due to similar issues, which has happened more than once and is pretty awkward. Those are the rules of the game. Take it or leave it.

By the way, one sub-forum is actually a small exception in that regard and has more freedom — LES, where we gave up sponsors for a bit more freedom of speech, typical of that sub-forum.

http://www.reddit.com/post/4...4&postcount=16

To put it more clearly, with one major difference ("Whether that's too strict or not is debatable, but that's how it is now."), it isn't like that anymore, as the ban didn't end up sticking. Since the ban was rescinded, we're here to discuss whether such a rigorous punishment was actually justified. For starters, if the admins were just having a brief exchange of opinions yesterday about what is and isn't allowed regarding pornography on Reddit, after which the rules are finally established, how could such a penalty have existed the day before, at the moment that famous/controversial "pornographic" post was published? In other words, "I didn't know yesterday that it would hurt me today".

To make matters even more absurd, it's now being implied that I only got off on a technicality. Am I O. J. Simpson now?

Mirrorball said:That's how it is, Christian Taylor3. Just so it doesn't look like the movie moderators jumped the gun and gave you an unfair ban.

First — after consulting with the admins, it was decided that your "first" deleted post should have been penalized. The second one wasn't, because the rules regarding (not) allowing links to adult content hadn't been agreed upon yet.

Something else. Just so we’re all clear, posting adult content on Reddit is strictly prohibited—it's one of those unwritten rules that everyone just needs to respect, except for over on LES where things are a little different. Moving forward, any subsequent posts containing this kind of material in this PDF will be penalized, and honestly, don't bother filing an appeal because we aren't going to even look at it.

Trees I’m just going to say it again—the moderators were absolutely right to ban you; honestly, you only dodged the hammer because of some technicality. But let me be crystal clear: any future posts like this, whether they come from you or anyone else on this subreddit, will be penalized regardless of whether there's a warning attached or not.

I have a specific question.I mean, why is that just some "unwritten rule," unfortunately? I’m honestly appealing to the admins here—can we please just actually put that line into the official rules?Reddit - rulesI mean, honestly, people on Reddit probably aren't even in a position to be asking for that. The corner for the banned.As long as that specific rule isn't actually on the books, handing out custom bans like that—without even a heads-up first—just feels like an incredibly disproportionate way to handle things.

Moving forward, then. It’s just not true that adult content only pops up on LES; people act like it’s some isolated issue, but honestly, it’s happening everywhere across the site, and it isn't exactly being policed either.There are hundreds of photos like this floating around, scattered everywhere from the soccer threads to the off-topic sections. If we actually applied that logic of yours—where every single subsequent post of this kind gets punished and any appeal is automatically rejected—you’d probably have to mass-ban about a hundred users from the soccer board right this second, myself included, over in the movie section. Just a heads-up: the stuff I'm posting below are the mild versions; things get a lot more intense than this.

I honestly don't know why I even bother trying to explain this to people on Reddit, but here we are. It feels like every time I try to have a nuanced conversation about anything remotely complex, someone jumps in with the most half-baked, surface-level take imaginable. It’s almost impressive how quickly a decent discussion can devolve into a shouting match over nothing. I'm sitting here thinking I've made a coherent point, only to realize I'm basically talking to a brick wall that occasionally shouts back. It’s a bit exhausting, if I'm being honest, though I suppose getting frustrated is just part of the ritual at this point.
I was just sitting there, staring at my screen, thinking about how much of a mess everything is, when I realized that being on Reddit is basically like being part of a giant, unorganized experiment in human patience. It’s funny, really, because you go in expecting some kind of intellectual discourse, and instead, you find yourself wading through endless threads where everyone is just shouting into the void, hoping someone—anyone—actually gives a damn. Honestly, I don't know why I bother checking back in so often, but I suppose it's a habit at this point, much like checking the mail even though most of what arrives is just junk or bills I'd rather ignore. It's all quite absurd if you step back and look at it from a distance, isn't it?
I honestly can't tell if I'm losing my mind or if everyone else is just collectively deciding to ignore reality, but this whole situation feels incredibly surreal. It’s like we’re all sitting around watching some bizarre indie movie where nothing makes sense and the plot is just a series of unfortunate events. I was scrolling through Reddit earlier, trying to find some semblance of logic, and it felt like I was just staring into an abyss of nonsense. It's almost funny, in a deeply depressing sort of way, how much effort people put into being completely wrong about everything. I'm just sitting here, probably looking like a total idiot, wondering when the actual point of any of this is going to be made.
I don't know what to tell you, I just think that if we’re going to sit around on Reddit discussing how people behave, we might as well be honest about the fact that most of us are just performing for an audience that isn't even paying attention. It's like watching someone try to explain the nuances of a classic noir movie to a room full of people who are just there for the free popcorn; you're putting in all this effort, trying to be deep or insightful, while everyone else is just waiting for the credits to roll so they can go grab a burger. Honestly, I feel like I spend half my life overthinking things that probably don't matter, acting like my internal monologue is some profound piece of literature when, in reality, it's mostly just me wondering if I left the stove on or if I actually have a personality beyond being mildly cynical. It's a bit pathetic, really, but hey, at least I'm consistent in my mediocrity.
I honestly don't know why I even bother engaging on Reddit sometimes, because half the time it feels like I’m just shouting into a void filled with people who haven't had their coffee yet. You look at these discussions and realize how much energy we waste arguing over things that won't matter by next Tuesday, though I suppose that's just the nature of the internet. It’s a strange little ecosystem we’ve built for ourselves, isn't it? Anyway, if you actually want to get anything done, you might as well just go Google it and save us all the headache of a three-hour debate that leads absolutely nowhere.

So, who’s actually going to step up and do this? Is it going to be Anderson? Mirrorball? Or maybe Nica? I’m genuinely curious which one of you actually has the guts to pull this off—no warning, no heads-up, just straight to the point—for a model citizen like Yurinova, whom I happen to know from the movie community, regarding this post: I honestly don't know why I even bother engaging on Reddit sometimes, because most of the discussions feel like they're circling a drain of pure nonsense. It’s one of those days where you realize that trying to have a coherent conversation online is basically like trying to teach a catatonic beaver how to play chess—you might see some movement, but nobody is actually winning anything. I was sitting there thinking about how much energy we waste arguing over things that don't matter, much like how people get worked up over whether a certain actor deserves an Oscar when we all know the script was garbage from page one. Anyway, I guess I'm just rambling now, probably because I haven't had enough coffee to deal with the sheer absurdity of this thread. Let's say, just for the sake of argument, that at the exact moment they get banned, they have zero penalty points—basically a spotless record. In that case, you guys are basically just... to I might not exactly be your idea of a "model citizen" on Reddit—I’ve racked up maybe ten warnings since 2009 and I've actually never been banned, though I did find myself getting kicked out once while sitting at a perfectly clean zero penalty points. Anyway, regarding enrollment... I guess this is how it starts. (on the movie subreddit)

So, I'm going to ask Anderson, Mirrorball, Nic, and Chika Strile one more time— So, looking back at it, was that custom ban actually a bit excessive?In a situation where the rules weren't even clearly defined yet, couldn't I have just been given a warning or maybe slapped with a minor 35-point penalty instead? Honestly, what stings the most isn't even the ban itself, but this whole implication that I only managed to dodge it because of some technicality.

Anderson kaze:
Also, let’s be real: bringing up how long someone has been around on Reddit is just a cheap way to dodge the point. It’s basically just advocating for double standards—as if we should have one set of rules for the veterans and another for everyone else. And honestly? No, we shouldn't.

I honestly don't know why I even bother engaging on Reddit sometimes, especially when conversations spiral this quickly. It feels like we're all just shouting into a void, or maybe just waiting for someone to say something actually intelligent. Anyway, if you're looking for my take on this whole mess, I’m just sitting here watching the chaos unfold, probably overthinking things that don't even matter. It’s fine, really. I'm used to it.

Of course not, there’s no double standard here—the rules apply to everyone equally. And honestly, I’m not even some veteran user; briskhound2 was actually the one who pointed that out first. I’ve been registered for three years, and there are plenty of people here who have been around much longer than I have. It wouldn't be fair to them if I went around calling myself an old-timer.

The whole illusion that I’m somehow a more "deserving" member of this Reddit is something you created yourself, specifically through your site, Monitor News: Let’s get one thing straight: I never asked Monitor to push things on the front page, and I never asked for a sticky on the movie PDF. I just came here to start a thread because I wanted to share something good with everyone—pure intentions, really. But it created this (wrong) impression that I’m privileged or operating under some special protection, which isn't true at all. How am I supposed to fight that perception, Zeljko? It’s becoming too much of a burden, and frankly, I don't want to carry it anymore.

Anderson said:I don't think that means you aren't welcome on Reddit.

It's not that I'm not welcome; it's more that I'm standing right by the exit—it's just that nobody has catapulted me out yet. It’s enough to say that after getting my ban lifted from zero yesterday, I’ve already climbed up to 70 points, mostly because people are handing me cardboard teeth for this: My goal is the magic number of 100, obviously, though I could probably just leave a single comma there and get deleted anyway (like I said, I won't be coming back). I'll let the rest of you decide what's actually going on here.

The icing on the cake was northerncrane4's post yesterday, right after yours:

northerncrane4 said:Anyway, the title of this thread is bullshit.

Once again, northerncrane4, there isn't a trace of pornography here: Pornography is the explicit depiction of sexual intercourse. Why don't you come over and explain to us why this photo qualifies as pornography?

I honestly have no clue where you're seeing porn in those soccer posts you pulled from Reddit. Don't drag us into this mess; pornography is a serious legal issue here in the States. Just do this: drop that other link you mentioned in the chat so people can actually judge for themselves if it's porn or not.

graniteheron132 said:I honestly have no clue where you're seeing porn in those soccer posts you pulled from Reddit. Don't drag us into this mess; pornography is a serious legal issue here in the States. Just do this: drop that other link you mentioned in the chat so people can actually judge for themselves if it's porn or not.

Hold on a second, I get banned on the movie chat for this (referring to that first photo), while you guys on the soccer board get flagged for the photos above. It's a quid pro quo situation; at least it should be handled that way. But there's one rule we really need to stick to:

Mirrorball said:Secondly—posting adult content on Reddit is strictly forbidden (unwritten rule, unfortunately) everywhere except on LES. So, any subsequent posts containing that kind of content in this PDF will result in a penalty, and we won't even consider an appeal.

Forget about "pornography" for a moment; under our definitions, any shot showing a bare breast or backside counts as adult content. And it's banned everywhere except LES.

I've got nothing against the soccer crowd, so please, just read that previous post one more time.

And I’m asking nicely: let's not turn this into some massive feud between the soccer fans and the movie buffs. That conflict doesn't even exist.

edit:

Even the artistic nudes were wiped from the photo. We're talking fine art here, man. 😁 Anderson explained the reasoning behind it was purely to protect us from Google (potential damage to search rankings).

Come on, people, just read the introductory post. Honestly, you don't even need all that, just this:

Anderson said:Our policy on this is pretty much identical to Google's policy and the policies of other mainstream sites that don't allow explicit content; I mean, it's nothing special that we don't allow it. There's absolutely nothing personal about it, it's simply crossing the line, breaking the rules, and there are consequences for that. Why did we adopt the same standard used by mainstream sites? Besides the fact that I think the standard is perfectly acceptable and fine, given that there are kids and sensitive souls around, I won't hide the other reason either—it's a requirement from our sponsors, and since Reddit is a fairly large site, it has overhead costs that sponsors cover. I'd say your ban is actually less awkward than having an ad canceled because of stuff like this, which has happened more than a few times and is pretty embarrassing. Those are the rules of the game. Take it or leave it.

That said, one sub-forum is a bit of an exception in that regard and enjoys more freedom—LES, where we gave up sponsors in exchange for a bit more free speech, fitting for that specific community.

http://www.reddit.com/showpost.php?p=4...4&postcount=16

Christian Taylor3 said:Hold on a second, I get banned on the movie chat for this (referring to that first photo), while you guys on the soccer board get flagged for the photos above. It's a quid pro quo situation; at least it should be handled that way. But there's one rule we really need to stick to:

Forget about "pornography" for a moment; under our definitions, any shot showing a bare breast or backside counts as adult content. And it's banned everywhere except LES.

I've got nothing against the soccer crowd, so please, just read that previous post one more time.

And I’m asking nicely: let's not turn this into some massive feud between the soccer fans and the movie buffs. That conflict doesn't even exist.

edit:

Even the artistic nudes were wiped from the photo. We're talking fine art here, man. 😁 Anderson explained the reasoning behind it was purely to protect us from Google (potential damage to search rankings).

That photo you posted definitely isn't porn, though I think there's another one out there that isn't quite so "innocent."😬 No drama here, man. Over on the soccer board, we actually make a distinction between actual porn and the kind of shots you linked, especially since Offside is such a chill topic.

Dukkai said:Where on earth did you find soccer as a comparison? They basically encourage insults and racism over there, not to mention the trolling.
They're like the masculine corner—they're their own thing, at least when it comes to the rules... 🤷

Don't talk nonsense.

graniteheron132 said:That photo you posted definitely isn't porn, though I think there's another one out there that isn't quite so "innocent."😬 No drama here, man. Over on the soccer board, we actually make a distinction between actual porn and the kind of shots you linked, especially since Offside is such a chill topic.

Don't talk nonsense.

The second one wasn't even close to being a full-blown post—it was basically just a warning and a link. It was actually that first one that was seriously problematic.

Look, there’s really no conflict here. Over on the soccer subreddit, we're just trying to draw a clear line between actual pornography and those specific images you linked, especially since being offsides is such a laid-back topic anyway.

Of course there isn't any conflict going on; the Movie and Soccer crowds are basically brothers in arms at this point.

The way the mods handle things around here, any kind of adult photo is considered controversial—except, of course, over on LES. And honestly, it’s not just limited to the soccer threads either; they pop up in other sections too. That’s really where the whole issue lies.

Honestly, the movie chat is just as laid-back as everything else around here.

Let's just leave it to the admins to sort this mess out. 👍

Christian Taylor3 said:The second one wasn't even close to being a full-blown post—it was basically just a warning and a link. It was actually that first one that was seriously problematic.

Look, there’s really no conflict here. Over on the soccer subreddit, we're just trying to draw a clear line between actual pornography and those specific images you linked, especially since being offsides is such a laid-back topic anyway.

Of course there isn't any conflict going on; the Movie and Soccer crowds are basically brothers in arms at this point.

The way the mods handle things around here, any kind of adult photo is considered controversial—except, of course, over on LES. And honestly, it’s not just limited to the soccer threads either; they pop up in other sections too. That’s really where the whole issue lies.

Honestly, the movie chat is just as laid-back as everything else around here.

Let's just leave it to the admins to sort this mess out. 👍

The people who moderate this movie find the second one problematic. It's an image of a woman under a table with... well, let's just say things happening. The image was linked to something that felt more like a haiku than an actual warning. The text just said: "NSFW/Kids under 18, tie your shoes and stay on the left side of the road"

It’s kind of like saying, "MST3K/Kids under 18, if you can't wink with both eyes at once, you don't need them anyway."

I guess, and honestly the other moderators for this movie feel the same, it isn't really clear what that warning was even supposed to mean.

Christian Taylor3 said:The whole mess is laid out right here: http://www.reddit.com/thread/727214 In the meantime, my ban was lifted, so I can't really reply over there. There's a lot of stuff left hanging in the air, so I’m politely asking the admins to jump back into the discussion.

NOTE: Some of the links lead to "adult" photos, so if you're under 18, maybe don't click. 😁

To put it more clearly, with one major difference ("Whether that's too strict or not is debatable, but that's how it is now."), it isn't like that anymore, as the ban didn't end up sticking. Since the ban was rescinded, we're here to discuss whether such a rigorous punishment was actually justified. For starters, if the admins were just having a brief exchange of opinions yesterday about what is and isn't allowed regarding pornography on Reddit, after which the rules are finally established, how could such a penalty have existed the day before, at the moment that famous/controversial "pornographic" post was published? In other words, "I didn't know yesterday that it would hurt me today".

To make matters even more absurd, it's now being implied that I only got off on a technicality. Am I O. J. Simpson now?

I have a specific question.I mean, why is that just some "unwritten rule," unfortunately? I’m honestly appealing to the admins here—can we please just actually put that line into the official rules?Reddit - rulesI mean, honestly, people on Reddit probably aren't even in a position to be asking for that. The corner for the banned.As long as that specific rule isn't actually on the books, handing out custom bans like that—without even a heads-up first—just feels like an incredibly disproportionate way to handle things.

Moving forward, then. It’s just not true that adult content only pops up on LES; people act like it’s some isolated issue, but honestly, it’s happening everywhere across the site, and it isn't exactly being policed either.There are hundreds of photos like this floating around, scattered everywhere from the soccer threads to the off-topic sections. If we actually applied that logic of yours—where every single subsequent post of this kind gets punished and any appeal is automatically rejected—you’d probably have to mass-ban about a hundred users from the soccer board right this second, myself included, over in the movie section. Just a heads-up: the stuff I'm posting below are the mild versions; things get a lot more intense than this.

I honestly don't know why I even bother trying to explain this to people on Reddit, but here we are. It feels like every time I try to have a nuanced conversation about anything remotely complex, someone jumps in with the most half-baked, surface-level take imaginable. It’s almost impressive how quickly a decent discussion can devolve into a shouting match over nothing. I'm sitting here thinking I've made a coherent point, only to realize I'm basically talking to a brick wall that occasionally shouts back. It’s a bit exhausting, if I'm being honest, though I suppose getting frustrated is just part of the ritual at this point.
I was just sitting there, staring at my screen, thinking about how much of a mess everything is, when I realized that being on Reddit is basically like being part of a giant, unorganized experiment in human patience. It’s funny, really, because you go in expecting some kind of intellectual discourse, and instead, you find yourself wading through endless threads where everyone is just shouting into the void, hoping someone—anyone—actually gives a damn. Honestly, I don't know why I bother checking back in so often, but I suppose it's a habit at this point, much like checking the mail even though most of what arrives is just junk or bills I'd rather ignore. It's all quite absurd if you step back and look at it from a distance, isn't it?
I honestly can't tell if I'm losing my mind or if everyone else is just collectively deciding to ignore reality, but this whole situation feels incredibly surreal. It’s like we’re all sitting around watching some bizarre indie movie where nothing makes sense and the plot is just a series of unfortunate events. I was scrolling through Reddit earlier, trying to find some semblance of logic, and it felt like I was just staring into an abyss of nonsense. It's almost funny, in a deeply depressing sort of way, how much effort people put into being completely wrong about everything. I'm just sitting here, probably looking like a total idiot, wondering when the actual point of any of this is going to be made.
I don't know what to tell you, I just think that if we’re going to sit around on Reddit discussing how people behave, we might as well be honest about the fact that most of us are just performing for an audience that isn't even paying attention. It's like watching someone try to explain the nuances of a classic noir movie to a room full of people who are just there for the free popcorn; you're putting in all this effort, trying to be deep or insightful, while everyone else is just waiting for the credits to roll so they can go grab a burger. Honestly, I feel like I spend half my life overthinking things that probably don't matter, acting like my internal monologue is some profound piece of literature when, in reality, it's mostly just me wondering if I left the stove on or if I actually have a personality beyond being mildly cynical. It's a bit pathetic, really, but hey, at least I'm consistent in my mediocrity.
I honestly don't know why I even bother engaging on Reddit sometimes, because half the time it feels like I’m just shouting into a void filled with people who haven't had their coffee yet. You look at these discussions and realize how much energy we waste arguing over things that won't matter by next Tuesday, though I suppose that's just the nature of the internet. It’s a strange little ecosystem we’ve built for ourselves, isn't it? Anyway, if you actually want to get anything done, you might as well just go Google it and save us all the headache of a three-hour debate that leads absolutely nowhere.

So, who’s actually going to step up and do this? Is it going to be Anderson? Mirrorball? Or maybe Nica? I’m genuinely curious which one of you actually has the guts to pull this off—no warning, no heads-up, just straight to the point—for a model citizen like Yurinova, whom I happen to know from the movie community, regarding this post: I honestly don't know why I even bother engaging on Reddit sometimes, because most of the discussions feel like they're circling a drain of pure nonsense. It’s one of those days where you realize that trying to have a coherent conversation online is basically like trying to teach a catatonic beaver how to play chess—you might see some movement, but nobody is actually winning anything. I was sitting there thinking about how much energy we waste arguing over things that don't matter, much like how people get worked up over whether a certain actor deserves an Oscar when we all know the script was garbage from page one. Anyway, I guess I'm just rambling now, probably because I haven't had enough coffee to deal with the sheer absurdity of this thread. Let's say, just for the sake of argument, that at the exact moment they get banned, they have zero penalty points—basically a spotless record. In that case, you guys are basically just... to I might not exactly be your idea of a "model citizen" on Reddit—I’ve racked up maybe ten warnings since 2009 and I've actually never been banned, though I did find myself getting kicked out once while sitting at a perfectly clean zero penalty points. Anyway, regarding enrollment... I guess this is how it starts. (on the movie subreddit)

So, I'm going to ask Anderson, Mirrorball, Nic, and Chika Strile one more time— So, looking back at it, was that custom ban actually a bit excessive?In a situation where the rules weren't even clearly defined yet, couldn't I have just been given a warning or maybe slapped with a minor 35-point penalty instead? Honestly, what stings the most isn't even the ban itself, but this whole implication that I only managed to dodge it because of some technicality.

Anderson kaze:
Also, let’s be real: bringing up how long someone has been around on Reddit is just a cheap way to dodge the point. It’s basically just advocating for double standards—as if we should have one set of rules for the veterans and another for everyone else. And honestly? No, we shouldn't.

I honestly don't know why I even bother engaging on Reddit sometimes, especially when conversations spiral this quickly. It feels like we're all just shouting into a void, or maybe just waiting for someone to say something actually intelligent. Anyway, if you're looking for my take on this whole mess, I’m just sitting here watching the chaos unfold, probably overthinking things that don't even matter. It’s fine, really. I'm used to it.

Of course not, there’s no double standard here—the rules apply to everyone equally. And honestly, I’m not even some veteran user; briskhound2 was actually the one who pointed that out first. I’ve been registered for three years, and there are plenty of people here who have been around much longer than I have. It wouldn't be fair to them if I went around calling myself an old-timer.

The whole illusion that I’m somehow a more "deserving" member of this Reddit is something you created yourself, specifically through your site, Monitor News: Let’s get one thing straight: I never asked Monitor to push things on the front page, and I never asked for a sticky on the movie PDF. I just came here to start a thread because I wanted to share something good with everyone—pure intentions, really. But it created this (wrong) impression that I’m privileged or operating under some special protection, which isn't true at all. How am I supposed to fight that perception, Zeljko? It’s becoming too much of a burden, and frankly, I don't want to carry it anymore.

It's not that I'm not welcome; it's more that I'm standing right by the exit—it's just that nobody has catapulted me out yet. It’s enough to say that after getting my ban lifted from zero yesterday, I’ve already climbed up to 70 points, mostly because people are handing me cardboard teeth for this: My goal is the magic number of 100, obviously, though I could probably just leave a single comma there and get deleted anyway (like I said, I won't be coming back). I'll let the rest of you decide what's actually going on here.

The icing on the cake was northerncrane4's post yesterday, right after yours:

Once again, northerncrane4, there isn't a trace of pornography here: Pornography is the explicit depiction of sexual intercourse. Why don't you come over and explain to us why this photo qualifies as pornography?

That's just not true. The only thing that hasn't been welcomed is how you constantly mess with the sub-forum's editing policies, threaten other users about how they should act, tell the moderators what they should or shouldn't be doing, and basically go after anyone on the site you don't like. Those are pretty much the only issues the moderators have with you and why you usually get penalized.

Oh, and just to be accurate... you don't have like 10 cardboard teeth. You're closer to 20.

Christian Taylor3 said:The whole mess is laid out right here: http://www.reddit.com/thread/727214 In the meantime, my ban was lifted, so I can't really reply over there. There's a lot of stuff left hanging in the air, so I’m politely asking the admins to jump back into the discussion.

NOTE: Some of the links lead to "adult" photos, so if you're under 18, maybe don't click. 😁

To put it more clearly, with one major difference ("Whether that's too strict or not is debatable, but that's how it is now."), it isn't like that anymore, as the ban didn't end up sticking. Since the ban was rescinded, we're here to discuss whether such a rigorous punishment was actually justified. For starters, if the admins were just having a brief exchange of opinions yesterday about what is and isn't allowed regarding pornography on Reddit, after which the rules are finally established, how could such a penalty have existed the day before, at the moment that famous/controversial "pornographic" post was published? In other words, "I didn't know yesterday that it would hurt me today".

To make matters even more absurd, it's now being implied that I only got off on a technicality. Am I O. J. Simpson now?

I have a specific question.I mean, why is that just some "unwritten rule," unfortunately? I’m honestly appealing to the admins here—can we please just actually put that line into the official rules?Reddit - rulesI mean, honestly, people on Reddit probably aren't even in a position to be asking for that. The corner for the banned.As long as that specific rule isn't actually on the books, handing out custom bans like that—without even a heads-up first—just feels like an incredibly disproportionate way to handle things.

Moving forward, then. It’s just not true that adult content only pops up on LES; people act like it’s some isolated issue, but honestly, it’s happening everywhere across the site, and it isn't exactly being policed either.There are hundreds of photos like this floating around, scattered everywhere from the soccer threads to the off-topic sections. If we actually applied that logic of yours—where every single subsequent post of this kind gets punished and any appeal is automatically rejected—you’d probably have to mass-ban about a hundred users from the soccer board right this second, myself included, over in the movie section. Just a heads-up: the stuff I'm posting below are the mild versions; things get a lot more intense than this.

I honestly don't know why I even bother trying to explain this to people on Reddit, but here we are. It feels like every time I try to have a nuanced conversation about anything remotely complex, someone jumps in with the most half-baked, surface-level take imaginable. It’s almost impressive how quickly a decent discussion can devolve into a shouting match over nothing. I'm sitting here thinking I've made a coherent point, only to realize I'm basically talking to a brick wall that occasionally shouts back. It’s a bit exhausting, if I'm being honest, though I suppose getting frustrated is just part of the ritual at this point.
I was just sitting there, staring at my screen, thinking about how much of a mess everything is, when I realized that being on Reddit is basically like being part of a giant, unorganized experiment in human patience. It’s funny, really, because you go in expecting some kind of intellectual discourse, and instead, you find yourself wading through endless threads where everyone is just shouting into the void, hoping someone—anyone—actually gives a damn. Honestly, I don't know why I bother checking back in so often, but I suppose it's a habit at this point, much like checking the mail even though most of what arrives is just junk or bills I'd rather ignore. It's all quite absurd if you step back and look at it from a distance, isn't it?
I honestly can't tell if I'm losing my mind or if everyone else is just collectively deciding to ignore reality, but this whole situation feels incredibly surreal. It’s like we’re all sitting around watching some bizarre indie movie where nothing makes sense and the plot is just a series of unfortunate events. I was scrolling through Reddit earlier, trying to find some semblance of logic, and it felt like I was just staring into an abyss of nonsense. It's almost funny, in a deeply depressing sort of way, how much effort people put into being completely wrong about everything. I'm just sitting here, probably looking like a total idiot, wondering when the actual point of any of this is going to be made.
I don't know what to tell you, I just think that if we’re going to sit around on Reddit discussing how people behave, we might as well be honest about the fact that most of us are just performing for an audience that isn't even paying attention. It's like watching someone try to explain the nuances of a classic noir movie to a room full of people who are just there for the free popcorn; you're putting in all this effort, trying to be deep or insightful, while everyone else is just waiting for the credits to roll so they can go grab a burger. Honestly, I feel like I spend half my life overthinking things that probably don't matter, acting like my internal monologue is some profound piece of literature when, in reality, it's mostly just me wondering if I left the stove on or if I actually have a personality beyond being mildly cynical. It's a bit pathetic, really, but hey, at least I'm consistent in my mediocrity.
I honestly don't know why I even bother engaging on Reddit sometimes, because half the time it feels like I’m just shouting into a void filled with people who haven't had their coffee yet. You look at these discussions and realize how much energy we waste arguing over things that won't matter by next Tuesday, though I suppose that's just the nature of the internet. It’s a strange little ecosystem we’ve built for ourselves, isn't it? Anyway, if you actually want to get anything done, you might as well just go Google it and save us all the headache of a three-hour debate that leads absolutely nowhere.

So, who’s actually going to step up and do this? Is it going to be Anderson? Mirrorball? Or maybe Nica? I’m genuinely curious which one of you actually has the guts to pull this off—no warning, no heads-up, just straight to the point—for a model citizen like Yurinova, whom I happen to know from the movie community, regarding this post: I honestly don't know why I even bother engaging on Reddit sometimes, because most of the discussions feel like they're circling a drain of pure nonsense. It’s one of those days where you realize that trying to have a coherent conversation online is basically like trying to teach a catatonic beaver how to play chess—you might see some movement, but nobody is actually winning anything. I was sitting there thinking about how much energy we waste arguing over things that don't matter, much like how people get worked up over whether a certain actor deserves an Oscar when we all know the script was garbage from page one. Anyway, I guess I'm just rambling now, probably because I haven't had enough coffee to deal with the sheer absurdity of this thread. Let's say, just for the sake of argument, that at the exact moment they get banned, they have zero penalty points—basically a spotless record. In that case, you guys are basically just... to I might not exactly be your idea of a "model citizen" on Reddit—I’ve racked up maybe ten warnings since 2009 and I've actually never been banned, though I did find myself getting kicked out once while sitting at a perfectly clean zero penalty points. Anyway, regarding enrollment... I guess this is how it starts. (on the movie subreddit)

So, I'm going to ask Anderson, Mirrorball, Nic, and Chika Strile one more time— So, looking back at it, was that custom ban actually a bit excessive?In a situation where the rules weren't even clearly defined yet, couldn't I have just been given a warning or maybe slapped with a minor 35-point penalty instead? Honestly, what stings the most isn't even the ban itself, but this whole implication that I only managed to dodge it because of some technicality.

Anderson kaze:
Also, let’s be real: bringing up how long someone has been around on Reddit is just a cheap way to dodge the point. It’s basically just advocating for double standards—as if we should have one set of rules for the veterans and another for everyone else. And honestly? No, we shouldn't.

I honestly don't know why I even bother engaging on Reddit sometimes, especially when conversations spiral this quickly. It feels like we're all just shouting into a void, or maybe just waiting for someone to say something actually intelligent. Anyway, if you're looking for my take on this whole mess, I’m just sitting here watching the chaos unfold, probably overthinking things that don't even matter. It’s fine, really. I'm used to it.

Of course not, there’s no double standard here—the rules apply to everyone equally. And honestly, I’m not even some veteran user; briskhound2 was actually the one who pointed that out first. I’ve been registered for three years, and there are plenty of people here who have been around much longer than I have. It wouldn't be fair to them if I went around calling myself an old-timer.

The whole illusion that I’m somehow a more "deserving" member of this Reddit is something you created yourself, specifically through your site, Monitor News: Let’s get one thing straight: I never asked Monitor to push things on the front page, and I never asked for a sticky on the movie PDF. I just came here to start a thread because I wanted to share something good with everyone—pure intentions, really. But it created this (wrong) impression that I’m privileged or operating under some special protection, which isn't true at all. How am I supposed to fight that perception, Zeljko? It’s becoming too much of a burden, and frankly, I don't want to carry it anymore.

It's not that I'm not welcome; it's more that I'm standing right by the exit—it's just that nobody has catapulted me out yet. It’s enough to say that after getting my ban lifted from zero yesterday, I’ve already climbed up to 70 points, mostly because people are handing me cardboard teeth for this: My goal is the magic number of 100, obviously, though I could probably just leave a single comma there and get deleted anyway (like I said, I won't be coming back). I'll let the rest of you decide what's actually going on here.

The icing on the cake was northerncrane4's post yesterday, right after yours:

Once again, northerncrane4, there isn't a trace of pornography here: Pornography is the explicit depiction of sexual intercourse. Why don't you come over and explain to us why this photo qualifies as pornography?

The pornography was the photo you actually linked—the one that got you banned. Let’s try this again: you were banned for a link to a photo explicitly depicting oral sex. You didn't get banned for this photo, despite how hard you're trying to make it seem. It was the other one. Not this one, which you're linking now, but the one from your original, massive post that you're conveniently ignoring. Not this. The other. How much clearer can I make it?

So, not for this one, but for the other.

Even that last red card you're citing is perfectly valid. Mirrorball said that, as far as he's concerned, the debate was over—yet you kept arguing. Then quietdriver3 responded, and you had the nerve to quote Mirrorball saying the debate was over... even though you were the one who kept it going. You. Not quietdriver3. You.

quietdriver3 said:The people who moderate this movie find the second one problematic. It's an image of a woman under a table with... well, let's just say things happening. The image was linked to something that felt more like a haiku than an actual warning. The text just said: "NSFW/Kids under 18, tie your shoes and stay on the left side of the road"

It’s kind of like saying, "MST3K/Kids under 18, if you can't wink with both eyes at once, you don't need them anyway."

I guess, and honestly the other moderators for this movie feel the same, it isn't really clear what that warning was even supposed to mean.

That's just not true. The only thing that hasn't been welcomed is how you constantly mess with the sub-forum's editing policies, threaten other users about how they should act, tell the moderators what they should or shouldn't be doing, and basically go after anyone on the site you don't like. Those are pretty much the only issues the moderators have with you and why you usually get penalized.

Oh, and just to be accurate... you don't have like 10 cardboard teeth. You're closer to 20.

It’s pretty obvious, really—just like when the mods and administration decide to hide behind terms like "adult content." Crystal clear, quietdriver3. Besides, "You're allowed to drop links to pornographic content here, provided you give us a heads-up beforehand." Look, this is the final official word from the administration side of things. We’re already running behind schedule here, and honestly, looking at the official policy handbook, they keep using the term "adult content," but you won't find that definition anywhere except over on LES. Like I’ve said before, the rules just aren't where they ought to be. This kind of "adult" stuff is popping up all over Reddit, yet nobody is actually getting penalized for it. Please, just get this added to the main Reddit rules or include it in the guidelines for all the subreddits—just leave LES out of it.

That’s just not how it works. The only thing people actually have an issue with is how you constantly meddle in the subreddit's editing policies, throw around threats about how other users should act, try to boss the moderators around on their own jobs, and basically go on little vendettas against anyone who doesn't fit your mold. Those are the actual problems the mods have with you, and they're pretty much the only reasons you end up getting penalized.

Right now, I’m feeling exactly like Hannibal Lecter. With all due respect, about 80% of this is just straight-up fiction—and I don't even mean pathological lies, because that would actually be interesting. Trolling. Just one of those things that seems to be everywhere lately, isn't it?Just a classic mess-up that leaves me feeling completely washed up. I’m just sitting here thinking about those imaginary cardboard teeth. I guess he thinks he’s some kind of big shot worth a hundred bucks. We’ll have to take this up on Reddit later, though. Honestly, the way they’re moderating and driving people away like this isn't exactly going to fly with the higher-ups around here.

I’m going to need the admins to take a look at this one:

I honestly don't know why I even bother trying to explain this to anyone on Reddit, but here we are. It’s like talking to a brick wall sometimes, except the wall might actually have more interesting things to say about the local economy than most people in this thread. I was sitting there thinking about how much effort I put into these discussions, only to realize that half the replies are just people shouting into the void or making points that wouldn't hold up in a middle school debate. It’s a bit exhausting, really, though I suppose that’s just my life in a nutshell—trying to make sense of things while everyone else is busy chasing the latest shiny object. Anyway, if you actually want to get into the weeds of what I was saying, feel free, but don't expect me to hold your hand through it.
I honestly don't know how people manage to stay so incredibly worked up about this stuff all the time. It feels like everyone on Reddit is just waiting around for a reason to lose their minds over absolutely nothing. I was sitting there thinking about it, and it really hit me that we’re all just spinning our wheels in the sand here. It's almost impressive, in a deeply pathetic sort of way, how much energy goes into these pointless arguments. Personally, I'm just trying to keep my head down and get through the day without feeling the need to jump into the fray, though I suppose that makes me a bit of a bore, doesn't it?
I don't know about you guys, but I honestly can't wrap my head around how anyone could actually enjoy watching that movie. It felt like I was just sitting there, staring at a screen, waiting for something—anything—to actually happen, while the soundtrack just droned on in the background. It’s one of those experiences where you start questioning your own taste because you find yourself wondering if you missed some profound, deep metaphor that everyone else clearly caught. Honestly, it was pretty much a chore to get through.
I honestly don't know why I even bother engaging on Reddit sometimes, but here we are. It feels like I’m just shouting into a void, or maybe just talking to people who aren't really listening. You try to make a decent point, something thoughtful, and you get met with nothing but blank stares or, worse, some guy making a joke that isn't even funny. It’s a bit exhausting, if I'm being honest, though I suppose that's just the nature of the internet these days. We're all just wandering around this digital wasteland looking for a shred of actual conversation.
I honestly don't know why I even bother engaging on Reddit sometimes. It’s like watching a slow-motion train wreck where everyone thinks they’re the conductor. You see these people arguing over things that don't matter, acting like they've uncovered some grand conspiracy when they really just stumbled onto a basic fact they didn't understand five minutes ago. It’s exhausting, really. I try to stay out of the fray, but then someone drops a comment so profoundly stupid that I feel a physical need to correct it, just so my brain doesn't melt from the sheer lack of logic. Anyway, back to the void.

People calling others fascists or homophobes can just breeze right through without facing any kind of consequences—I'm honestly at the point where I feel like I need to be the godfather to northerncrane4 and pray he finally deigns to grace us with even the most basic warning—while meanwhile, I’m over here getting my ass kicked for nothing. . So, my ban was overturned (literally rescinded, and this thread explains why), which means the moderators over at the Movie subreddit now have to artificially inflate my status. All the arguments and evidence against them are laid out right here.

Oh, and just for the sake of accuracy, you don't have about ten warnings. You have closer to twenty.

I have 17 warnings out of 8,616 posts on Reddit, and I've never actually been banned. We've established that I don't hold any special privileges on this Reddit, which simultaneously debunks your little claims about me "threatening or harassing other users." Before we continue this debate, you all might want to remember that you were the ones who just barred Harper from starting new threads in the Movie sub; it's all documented in black and white.

Talk soon.

northerncrane4 said:The pornography was the photo you actually linked—the one that got you banned. Let’s try this again: you were banned for a link to a photo explicitly depicting oral sex. You didn't get banned for this photo, despite how hard you're trying to make it seem. It was the other one. Not this one, which you're linking now, but the one from your original, massive post that you're conveniently ignoring. Not this. The other. How much clearer can I make it?

So, not for this one, but for the other.

Even that last red card you're citing is perfectly valid. Mirrorball said that, as far as he's concerned, the debate was over—yet you kept arguing. Then quietdriver3 responded, and you had the nerve to quote Mirrorball saying the debate was over... even though you were the one who kept it going. You. Not quietdriver3. You.

There is no ban, northerncrane4—it's been rescinded. All the questions from the original post still stand. Those rules finally need some actual definition.

Regarding that last warning you're citing, it's totally clean. Mirrorball said that as far as he's concerned, the discussion was over, after which you kept arguing, leading quietdriver3 to respond, and then you quoted Mirrorball's sentence saying the discussion was over. Except you're the one who continued after that sentence. You. Not quietdriver3. You.

Like I said, I'm going to contest that warning. By the way, start prepping those PMs for the admins (the kind involving the most egregious insults toward users or allusions to mental illness/treatment). Anyway, it's on me to report them; I'm just not sure if I can report them directly from the inbox via the red icon since you're a mod.

I also ask the administration to weigh in on these kinds of posts, as there are plenty of Splitter users here who didn't even vote for Kerum:

northerncrane4 said:Everyone in Miami belongs to Kerum's ridiculous cult.

Christian Taylor3 said:It’s pretty obvious, really—just like when the mods and administration decide to hide behind terms like "adult content." Crystal clear, quietdriver3. Besides, "You're allowed to drop links to pornographic content here, provided you give us a heads-up beforehand." Look, this is the final official word from the administration side of things. We’re already running behind schedule here, and honestly, looking at the official policy handbook, they keep using the term "adult content," but you won't find that definition anywhere except over on LES. Like I’ve said before, the rules just aren't where they ought to be. This kind of "adult" stuff is popping up all over Reddit, yet nobody is actually getting penalized for it. Please, just get this added to the main Reddit rules or include it in the guidelines for all the subreddits—just leave LES out of it.

That’s just not how it works. The only thing people actually have an issue with is how you constantly meddle in the subreddit's editing policies, throw around threats about how other users should act, try to boss the moderators around on their own jobs, and basically go on little vendettas against anyone who doesn't fit your mold. Those are the actual problems the mods have with you, and they're pretty much the only reasons you end up getting penalized.

Right now, I’m feeling exactly like Hannibal Lecter. With all due respect, about 80% of this is just straight-up fiction—and I don't even mean pathological lies, because that would actually be interesting. Trolling. Just one of those things that seems to be everywhere lately, isn't it?Just a classic mess-up that leaves me feeling completely washed up. I’m just sitting here thinking about those imaginary cardboard teeth. I guess he thinks he’s some kind of big shot worth a hundred bucks. We’ll have to take this up on Reddit later, though. Honestly, the way they’re moderating and driving people away like this isn't exactly going to fly with the higher-ups around here.

I’m going to need the admins to take a look at this one:

I honestly don't know why I even bother trying to explain this to anyone on Reddit, but here we are. It’s like talking to a brick wall sometimes, except the wall might actually have more interesting things to say about the local economy than most people in this thread. I was sitting there thinking about how much effort I put into these discussions, only to realize that half the replies are just people shouting into the void or making points that wouldn't hold up in a middle school debate. It’s a bit exhausting, really, though I suppose that’s just my life in a nutshell—trying to make sense of things while everyone else is busy chasing the latest shiny object. Anyway, if you actually want to get into the weeds of what I was saying, feel free, but don't expect me to hold your hand through it.
I honestly don't know how people manage to stay so incredibly worked up about this stuff all the time. It feels like everyone on Reddit is just waiting around for a reason to lose their minds over absolutely nothing. I was sitting there thinking about it, and it really hit me that we’re all just spinning our wheels in the sand here. It's almost impressive, in a deeply pathetic sort of way, how much energy goes into these pointless arguments. Personally, I'm just trying to keep my head down and get through the day without feeling the need to jump into the fray, though I suppose that makes me a bit of a bore, doesn't it?
I don't know about you guys, but I honestly can't wrap my head around how anyone could actually enjoy watching that movie. It felt like I was just sitting there, staring at a screen, waiting for something—anything—to actually happen, while the soundtrack just droned on in the background. It’s one of those experiences where you start questioning your own taste because you find yourself wondering if you missed some profound, deep metaphor that everyone else clearly caught. Honestly, it was pretty much a chore to get through.
I honestly don't know why I even bother engaging on Reddit sometimes, but here we are. It feels like I’m just shouting into a void, or maybe just talking to people who aren't really listening. You try to make a decent point, something thoughtful, and you get met with nothing but blank stares or, worse, some guy making a joke that isn't even funny. It’s a bit exhausting, if I'm being honest, though I suppose that's just the nature of the internet these days. We're all just wandering around this digital wasteland looking for a shred of actual conversation.
I honestly don't know why I even bother engaging on Reddit sometimes. It’s like watching a slow-motion train wreck where everyone thinks they’re the conductor. You see these people arguing over things that don't matter, acting like they've uncovered some grand conspiracy when they really just stumbled onto a basic fact they didn't understand five minutes ago. It’s exhausting, really. I try to stay out of the fray, but then someone drops a comment so profoundly stupid that I feel a physical need to correct it, just so my brain doesn't melt from the sheer lack of logic. Anyway, back to the void.

People calling others fascists or homophobes can just breeze right through without facing any kind of consequences—I'm honestly at the point where I feel like I need to be the godfather to northerncrane4 and pray he finally deigns to grace us with even the most basic warning—while meanwhile, I’m over here getting my ass kicked for nothing. . So, my ban was overturned (literally rescinded, and this thread explains why), which means the moderators over at the Movie subreddit now have to artificially inflate my status. All the arguments and evidence against them are laid out right here.

Oh, and just for the sake of accuracy, you don't have about ten warnings. You have closer to twenty.

I have 17 warnings out of 8,616 posts on Reddit, and I've never actually been banned. We've established that I don't hold any special privileges on this Reddit, which simultaneously debunks your little claims about me "threatening or harassing other users." Before we continue this debate, you all might want to remember that you were the ones who just barred Harper from starting new threads in the Movie sub; it's all documented in black and white.

Talk soon.

There is no ban, northerncrane4—it's been rescinded. All the questions from the original post still stand. Those rules finally need some actual definition.

Regarding that last warning you're citing, it's totally clean. Mirrorball said that as far as he's concerned, the discussion was over, after which you kept arguing, leading quietdriver3 to respond, and then you quoted Mirrorball's sentence saying the discussion was over. Except you're the one who continued after that sentence. You. Not quietdriver3. You.

Like I said, I'm going to contest that warning. By the way, start prepping those PMs for the admins (the kind involving the most egregious insults toward users or allusions to mental illness/treatment). Anyway, it's on me to report them; I'm just not sure if I can report them directly from the inbox via the red icon since you're a mod.

I also ask the administration to weigh in on these kinds of posts, as there are plenty of Splitter users here who didn't even vote for Kerum:

But NSFW isn't really a warning, I guess. Like, what does that even mean? I actually tried to google it for an explanation, and it says: not safe for fucking. So, how does that actually relate to your hotlinking? 🤷

Christian Taylor3 said:It’s pretty obvious, really—just like when the mods and administration decide to hide behind terms like "adult content." Crystal clear, quietdriver3. Besides, "You're allowed to drop links to pornographic content here, provided you give us a heads-up beforehand." Look, this is the final official word from the administration side of things. We’re already running behind schedule here, and honestly, looking at the official policy handbook, they keep using the term "adult content," but you won't find that definition anywhere except over on LES. Like I’ve said before, the rules just aren't where they ought to be. This kind of "adult" stuff is popping up all over Reddit, yet nobody is actually getting penalized for it. Please, just get this added to the main Reddit rules or include it in the guidelines for all the subreddits—just leave LES out of it.

That’s just not how it works. The only thing people actually have an issue with is how you constantly meddle in the subreddit's editing policies, throw around threats about how other users should act, try to boss the moderators around on their own jobs, and basically go on little vendettas against anyone who doesn't fit your mold. Those are the actual problems the mods have with you, and they're pretty much the only reasons you end up getting penalized.

Right now, I’m feeling exactly like Hannibal Lecter. With all due respect, about 80% of this is just straight-up fiction—and I don't even mean pathological lies, because that would actually be interesting. Trolling. Just one of those things that seems to be everywhere lately, isn't it?Just a classic mess-up that leaves me feeling completely washed up. I’m just sitting here thinking about those imaginary cardboard teeth. I guess he thinks he’s some kind of big shot worth a hundred bucks. We’ll have to take this up on Reddit later, though. Honestly, the way they’re moderating and driving people away like this isn't exactly going to fly with the higher-ups around here.

I’m going to need the admins to take a look at this one:

I honestly don't know why I even bother trying to explain this to anyone on Reddit, but here we are. It’s like talking to a brick wall sometimes, except the wall might actually have more interesting things to say about the local economy than most people in this thread. I was sitting there thinking about how much effort I put into these discussions, only to realize that half the replies are just people shouting into the void or making points that wouldn't hold up in a middle school debate. It’s a bit exhausting, really, though I suppose that’s just my life in a nutshell—trying to make sense of things while everyone else is busy chasing the latest shiny object. Anyway, if you actually want to get into the weeds of what I was saying, feel free, but don't expect me to hold your hand through it.
I honestly don't know how people manage to stay so incredibly worked up about this stuff all the time. It feels like everyone on Reddit is just waiting around for a reason to lose their minds over absolutely nothing. I was sitting there thinking about it, and it really hit me that we’re all just spinning our wheels in the sand here. It's almost impressive, in a deeply pathetic sort of way, how much energy goes into these pointless arguments. Personally, I'm just trying to keep my head down and get through the day without feeling the need to jump into the fray, though I suppose that makes me a bit of a bore, doesn't it?
I don't know about you guys, but I honestly can't wrap my head around how anyone could actually enjoy watching that movie. It felt like I was just sitting there, staring at a screen, waiting for something—anything—to actually happen, while the soundtrack just droned on in the background. It’s one of those experiences where you start questioning your own taste because you find yourself wondering if you missed some profound, deep metaphor that everyone else clearly caught. Honestly, it was pretty much a chore to get through.
I honestly don't know why I even bother engaging on Reddit sometimes, but here we are. It feels like I’m just shouting into a void, or maybe just talking to people who aren't really listening. You try to make a decent point, something thoughtful, and you get met with nothing but blank stares or, worse, some guy making a joke that isn't even funny. It’s a bit exhausting, if I'm being honest, though I suppose that's just the nature of the internet these days. We're all just wandering around this digital wasteland looking for a shred of actual conversation.
I honestly don't know why I even bother engaging on Reddit sometimes. It’s like watching a slow-motion train wreck where everyone thinks they’re the conductor. You see these people arguing over things that don't matter, acting like they've uncovered some grand conspiracy when they really just stumbled onto a basic fact they didn't understand five minutes ago. It’s exhausting, really. I try to stay out of the fray, but then someone drops a comment so profoundly stupid that I feel a physical need to correct it, just so my brain doesn't melt from the sheer lack of logic. Anyway, back to the void.

People calling others fascists or homophobes can just breeze right through without facing any kind of consequences—I'm honestly at the point where I feel like I need to be the godfather to northerncrane4 and pray he finally deigns to grace us with even the most basic warning—while meanwhile, I’m over here getting my ass kicked for nothing. . So, my ban was overturned (literally rescinded, and this thread explains why), which means the moderators over at the Movie subreddit now have to artificially inflate my status. All the arguments and evidence against them are laid out right here.

Oh, and just for the sake of accuracy, you don't have about ten warnings. You have closer to twenty.

I have 17 warnings out of 8,616 posts on Reddit, and I've never actually been banned. We've established that I don't hold any special privileges on this Reddit, which simultaneously debunks your little claims about me "threatening or harassing other users." Before we continue this debate, you all might want to remember that you were the ones who just barred Harper from starting new threads in the Movie sub; it's all documented in black and white.

Talk soon.

There is no ban, northerncrane4—it's been rescinded. All the questions from the original post still stand. Those rules finally need some actual definition.

Regarding that last warning you're citing, it's totally clean. Mirrorball said that as far as he's concerned, the discussion was over, after which you kept arguing, leading quietdriver3 to respond, and then you quoted Mirrorball's sentence saying the discussion was over. Except you're the one who continued after that sentence. You. Not quietdriver3. You.

Like I said, I'm going to contest that warning. By the way, start prepping those PMs for the admins (the kind involving the most egregious insults toward users or allusions to mental illness/treatment). Anyway, it's on me to report them; I'm just not sure if I can report them directly from the inbox via the red icon since you're a mod.

I also ask the administration to weigh in on these kinds of posts, as there are plenty of Splitter users here who didn't even vote for Kerum:

I mean, how is anyone supposed to believe that 80% when you're constantly lying? 🤷

And regarding the quote, I don't really see the issue. We could probably just break my sentence down into simple facts. Did you lie when you said you had a clean record? Yeah. Did you repeat that same lie twice (once in the banned corner and again in the appeal book)? Yeah. So, I guess it’s not just an acute thing, maybe more of a chronic problem.

Christian Taylor3 said:It’s pretty obvious, really—just like when the mods and administration decide to hide behind terms like "adult content." Crystal clear, quietdriver3. Besides, "You're allowed to drop links to pornographic content here, provided you give us a heads-up beforehand." Look, this is the final official word from the administration side of things. We’re already running behind schedule here, and honestly, looking at the official policy handbook, they keep using the term "adult content," but you won't find that definition anywhere except over on LES. Like I’ve said before, the rules just aren't where they ought to be. This kind of "adult" stuff is popping up all over Reddit, yet nobody is actually getting penalized for it. Please, just get this added to the main Reddit rules or include it in the guidelines for all the subreddits—just leave LES out of it.

That’s just not how it works. The only thing people actually have an issue with is how you constantly meddle in the subreddit's editing policies, throw around threats about how other users should act, try to boss the moderators around on their own jobs, and basically go on little vendettas against anyone who doesn't fit your mold. Those are the actual problems the mods have with you, and they're pretty much the only reasons you end up getting penalized.

Right now, I’m feeling exactly like Hannibal Lecter. With all due respect, about 80% of this is just straight-up fiction—and I don't even mean pathological lies, because that would actually be interesting. Trolling. Just one of those things that seems to be everywhere lately, isn't it?Just a classic mess-up that leaves me feeling completely washed up. I’m just sitting here thinking about those imaginary cardboard teeth. I guess he thinks he’s some kind of big shot worth a hundred bucks. We’ll have to take this up on Reddit later, though. Honestly, the way they’re moderating and driving people away like this isn't exactly going to fly with the higher-ups around here.

I’m going to need the admins to take a look at this one:

I honestly don't know why I even bother trying to explain this to anyone on Reddit, but here we are. It’s like talking to a brick wall sometimes, except the wall might actually have more interesting things to say about the local economy than most people in this thread. I was sitting there thinking about how much effort I put into these discussions, only to realize that half the replies are just people shouting into the void or making points that wouldn't hold up in a middle school debate. It’s a bit exhausting, really, though I suppose that’s just my life in a nutshell—trying to make sense of things while everyone else is busy chasing the latest shiny object. Anyway, if you actually want to get into the weeds of what I was saying, feel free, but don't expect me to hold your hand through it.
I honestly don't know how people manage to stay so incredibly worked up about this stuff all the time. It feels like everyone on Reddit is just waiting around for a reason to lose their minds over absolutely nothing. I was sitting there thinking about it, and it really hit me that we’re all just spinning our wheels in the sand here. It's almost impressive, in a deeply pathetic sort of way, how much energy goes into these pointless arguments. Personally, I'm just trying to keep my head down and get through the day without feeling the need to jump into the fray, though I suppose that makes me a bit of a bore, doesn't it?
I don't know about you guys, but I honestly can't wrap my head around how anyone could actually enjoy watching that movie. It felt like I was just sitting there, staring at a screen, waiting for something—anything—to actually happen, while the soundtrack just droned on in the background. It’s one of those experiences where you start questioning your own taste because you find yourself wondering if you missed some profound, deep metaphor that everyone else clearly caught. Honestly, it was pretty much a chore to get through.
I honestly don't know why I even bother engaging on Reddit sometimes, but here we are. It feels like I’m just shouting into a void, or maybe just talking to people who aren't really listening. You try to make a decent point, something thoughtful, and you get met with nothing but blank stares or, worse, some guy making a joke that isn't even funny. It’s a bit exhausting, if I'm being honest, though I suppose that's just the nature of the internet these days. We're all just wandering around this digital wasteland looking for a shred of actual conversation.
I honestly don't know why I even bother engaging on Reddit sometimes. It’s like watching a slow-motion train wreck where everyone thinks they’re the conductor. You see these people arguing over things that don't matter, acting like they've uncovered some grand conspiracy when they really just stumbled onto a basic fact they didn't understand five minutes ago. It’s exhausting, really. I try to stay out of the fray, but then someone drops a comment so profoundly stupid that I feel a physical need to correct it, just so my brain doesn't melt from the sheer lack of logic. Anyway, back to the void.

People calling others fascists or homophobes can just breeze right through without facing any kind of consequences—I'm honestly at the point where I feel like I need to be the godfather to northerncrane4 and pray he finally deigns to grace us with even the most basic warning—while meanwhile, I’m over here getting my ass kicked for nothing. . So, my ban was overturned (literally rescinded, and this thread explains why), which means the moderators over at the Movie subreddit now have to artificially inflate my status. All the arguments and evidence against them are laid out right here.

Oh, and just for the sake of accuracy, you don't have about ten warnings. You have closer to twenty.

I have 17 warnings out of 8,616 posts on Reddit, and I've never actually been banned. We've established that I don't hold any special privileges on this Reddit, which simultaneously debunks your little claims about me "threatening or harassing other users." Before we continue this debate, you all might want to remember that you were the ones who just barred Harper from starting new threads in the Movie sub; it's all documented in black and white.

Talk soon.

There is no ban, northerncrane4—it's been rescinded. All the questions from the original post still stand. Those rules finally need some actual definition.

Regarding that last warning you're citing, it's totally clean. Mirrorball said that as far as he's concerned, the discussion was over, after which you kept arguing, leading quietdriver3 to respond, and then you quoted Mirrorball's sentence saying the discussion was over. Except you're the one who continued after that sentence. You. Not quietdriver3. You.

Like I said, I'm going to contest that warning. By the way, start prepping those PMs for the admins (the kind involving the most egregious insults toward users or allusions to mental illness/treatment). Anyway, it's on me to report them; I'm just not sure if I can report them directly from the inbox via the red icon since you're a mod.

I also ask the administration to weigh in on these kinds of posts, as there are plenty of Splitter users here who didn't even vote for Kerum:

A colleague already explained this in a previous post, I think.

Christian Taylor3 said:It’s pretty obvious, really—just like when the mods and administration decide to hide behind terms like "adult content." Crystal clear, quietdriver3. Besides, "You're allowed to drop links to pornographic content here, provided you give us a heads-up beforehand." Look, this is the final official word from the administration side of things. We’re already running behind schedule here, and honestly, looking at the official policy handbook, they keep using the term "adult content," but you won't find that definition anywhere except over on LES. Like I’ve said before, the rules just aren't where they ought to be. This kind of "adult" stuff is popping up all over Reddit, yet nobody is actually getting penalized for it. Please, just get this added to the main Reddit rules or include it in the guidelines for all the subreddits—just leave LES out of it.

That’s just not how it works. The only thing people actually have an issue with is how you constantly meddle in the subreddit's editing policies, throw around threats about how other users should act, try to boss the moderators around on their own jobs, and basically go on little vendettas against anyone who doesn't fit your mold. Those are the actual problems the mods have with you, and they're pretty much the only reasons you end up getting penalized.

Right now, I’m feeling exactly like Hannibal Lecter. With all due respect, about 80% of this is just straight-up fiction—and I don't even mean pathological lies, because that would actually be interesting. Trolling. Just one of those things that seems to be everywhere lately, isn't it?Just a classic mess-up that leaves me feeling completely washed up. I’m just sitting here thinking about those imaginary cardboard teeth. I guess he thinks he’s some kind of big shot worth a hundred bucks. We’ll have to take this up on Reddit later, though. Honestly, the way they’re moderating and driving people away like this isn't exactly going to fly with the higher-ups around here.

I’m going to need the admins to take a look at this one:

I honestly don't know why I even bother trying to explain this to anyone on Reddit, but here we are. It’s like talking to a brick wall sometimes, except the wall might actually have more interesting things to say about the local economy than most people in this thread. I was sitting there thinking about how much effort I put into these discussions, only to realize that half the replies are just people shouting into the void or making points that wouldn't hold up in a middle school debate. It’s a bit exhausting, really, though I suppose that’s just my life in a nutshell—trying to make sense of things while everyone else is busy chasing the latest shiny object. Anyway, if you actually want to get into the weeds of what I was saying, feel free, but don't expect me to hold your hand through it.
I honestly don't know how people manage to stay so incredibly worked up about this stuff all the time. It feels like everyone on Reddit is just waiting around for a reason to lose their minds over absolutely nothing. I was sitting there thinking about it, and it really hit me that we’re all just spinning our wheels in the sand here. It's almost impressive, in a deeply pathetic sort of way, how much energy goes into these pointless arguments. Personally, I'm just trying to keep my head down and get through the day without feeling the need to jump into the fray, though I suppose that makes me a bit of a bore, doesn't it?
I don't know about you guys, but I honestly can't wrap my head around how anyone could actually enjoy watching that movie. It felt like I was just sitting there, staring at a screen, waiting for something—anything—to actually happen, while the soundtrack just droned on in the background. It’s one of those experiences where you start questioning your own taste because you find yourself wondering if you missed some profound, deep metaphor that everyone else clearly caught. Honestly, it was pretty much a chore to get through.
I honestly don't know why I even bother engaging on Reddit sometimes, but here we are. It feels like I’m just shouting into a void, or maybe just talking to people who aren't really listening. You try to make a decent point, something thoughtful, and you get met with nothing but blank stares or, worse, some guy making a joke that isn't even funny. It’s a bit exhausting, if I'm being honest, though I suppose that's just the nature of the internet these days. We're all just wandering around this digital wasteland looking for a shred of actual conversation.
I honestly don't know why I even bother engaging on Reddit sometimes. It’s like watching a slow-motion train wreck where everyone thinks they’re the conductor. You see these people arguing over things that don't matter, acting like they've uncovered some grand conspiracy when they really just stumbled onto a basic fact they didn't understand five minutes ago. It’s exhausting, really. I try to stay out of the fray, but then someone drops a comment so profoundly stupid that I feel a physical need to correct it, just so my brain doesn't melt from the sheer lack of logic. Anyway, back to the void.

People calling others fascists or homophobes can just breeze right through without facing any kind of consequences—I'm honestly at the point where I feel like I need to be the godfather to northerncrane4 and pray he finally deigns to grace us with even the most basic warning—while meanwhile, I’m over here getting my ass kicked for nothing. . So, my ban was overturned (literally rescinded, and this thread explains why), which means the moderators over at the Movie subreddit now have to artificially inflate my status. All the arguments and evidence against them are laid out right here.

Oh, and just for the sake of accuracy, you don't have about ten warnings. You have closer to twenty.

I have 17 warnings out of 8,616 posts on Reddit, and I've never actually been banned. We've established that I don't hold any special privileges on this Reddit, which simultaneously debunks your little claims about me "threatening or harassing other users." Before we continue this debate, you all might want to remember that you were the ones who just barred Harper from starting new threads in the Movie sub; it's all documented in black and white.

Talk soon.

There is no ban, northerncrane4—it's been rescinded. All the questions from the original post still stand. Those rules finally need some actual definition.

Regarding that last warning you're citing, it's totally clean. Mirrorball said that as far as he's concerned, the discussion was over, after which you kept arguing, leading quietdriver3 to respond, and then you quoted Mirrorball's sentence saying the discussion was over. Except you're the one who continued after that sentence. You. Not quietdriver3. You.

Like I said, I'm going to contest that warning. By the way, start prepping those PMs for the admins (the kind involving the most egregious insults toward users or allusions to mental illness/treatment). Anyway, it's on me to report them; I'm just not sure if I can report them directly from the inbox via the red icon since you're a mod.

I also ask the administration to weigh in on these kinds of posts, as there are plenty of Splitter users here who didn't even vote for Kerum:

Right now you’ve got 20 strikes, whereas before this latest incident you had 17. How far is that from those 10 or so strikes you were bragging about in your first post? Are we lying again?

Btw,

This actually just backs me up. If I say you were getting punished for stuff like this, and you're loaded with strikes, how exactly does that disprove my point?

Christian Taylor3 said:It’s pretty obvious, really—just like when the mods and administration decide to hide behind terms like "adult content." Crystal clear, quietdriver3. Besides, "You're allowed to drop links to pornographic content here, provided you give us a heads-up beforehand." Look, this is the final official word from the administration side of things. We’re already running behind schedule here, and honestly, looking at the official policy handbook, they keep using the term "adult content," but you won't find that definition anywhere except over on LES. Like I’ve said before, the rules just aren't where they ought to be. This kind of "adult" stuff is popping up all over Reddit, yet nobody is actually getting penalized for it. Please, just get this added to the main Reddit rules or include it in the guidelines for all the subreddits—just leave LES out of it.

That’s just not how it works. The only thing people actually have an issue with is how you constantly meddle in the subreddit's editing policies, throw around threats about how other users should act, try to boss the moderators around on their own jobs, and basically go on little vendettas against anyone who doesn't fit your mold. Those are the actual problems the mods have with you, and they're pretty much the only reasons you end up getting penalized.

Right now, I’m feeling exactly like Hannibal Lecter. With all due respect, about 80% of this is just straight-up fiction—and I don't even mean pathological lies, because that would actually be interesting. Trolling. Just one of those things that seems to be everywhere lately, isn't it?Just a classic mess-up that leaves me feeling completely washed up. I’m just sitting here thinking about those imaginary cardboard teeth. I guess he thinks he’s some kind of big shot worth a hundred bucks. We’ll have to take this up on Reddit later, though. Honestly, the way they’re moderating and driving people away like this isn't exactly going to fly with the higher-ups around here.

I’m going to need the admins to take a look at this one:

I honestly don't know why I even bother trying to explain this to anyone on Reddit, but here we are. It’s like talking to a brick wall sometimes, except the wall might actually have more interesting things to say about the local economy than most people in this thread. I was sitting there thinking about how much effort I put into these discussions, only to realize that half the replies are just people shouting into the void or making points that wouldn't hold up in a middle school debate. It’s a bit exhausting, really, though I suppose that’s just my life in a nutshell—trying to make sense of things while everyone else is busy chasing the latest shiny object. Anyway, if you actually want to get into the weeds of what I was saying, feel free, but don't expect me to hold your hand through it.
I honestly don't know how people manage to stay so incredibly worked up about this stuff all the time. It feels like everyone on Reddit is just waiting around for a reason to lose their minds over absolutely nothing. I was sitting there thinking about it, and it really hit me that we’re all just spinning our wheels in the sand here. It's almost impressive, in a deeply pathetic sort of way, how much energy goes into these pointless arguments. Personally, I'm just trying to keep my head down and get through the day without feeling the need to jump into the fray, though I suppose that makes me a bit of a bore, doesn't it?
I don't know about you guys, but I honestly can't wrap my head around how anyone could actually enjoy watching that movie. It felt like I was just sitting there, staring at a screen, waiting for something—anything—to actually happen, while the soundtrack just droned on in the background. It’s one of those experiences where you start questioning your own taste because you find yourself wondering if you missed some profound, deep metaphor that everyone else clearly caught. Honestly, it was pretty much a chore to get through.
I honestly don't know why I even bother engaging on Reddit sometimes, but here we are. It feels like I’m just shouting into a void, or maybe just talking to people who aren't really listening. You try to make a decent point, something thoughtful, and you get met with nothing but blank stares or, worse, some guy making a joke that isn't even funny. It’s a bit exhausting, if I'm being honest, though I suppose that's just the nature of the internet these days. We're all just wandering around this digital wasteland looking for a shred of actual conversation.
I honestly don't know why I even bother engaging on Reddit sometimes. It’s like watching a slow-motion train wreck where everyone thinks they’re the conductor. You see these people arguing over things that don't matter, acting like they've uncovered some grand conspiracy when they really just stumbled onto a basic fact they didn't understand five minutes ago. It’s exhausting, really. I try to stay out of the fray, but then someone drops a comment so profoundly stupid that I feel a physical need to correct it, just so my brain doesn't melt from the sheer lack of logic. Anyway, back to the void.

People calling others fascists or homophobes can just breeze right through without facing any kind of consequences—I'm honestly at the point where I feel like I need to be the godfather to northerncrane4 and pray he finally deigns to grace us with even the most basic warning—while meanwhile, I’m over here getting my ass kicked for nothing. . So, my ban was overturned (literally rescinded, and this thread explains why), which means the moderators over at the Movie subreddit now have to artificially inflate my status. All the arguments and evidence against them are laid out right here.

Oh, and just for the sake of accuracy, you don't have about ten warnings. You have closer to twenty.

I have 17 warnings out of 8,616 posts on Reddit, and I've never actually been banned. We've established that I don't hold any special privileges on this Reddit, which simultaneously debunks your little claims about me "threatening or harassing other users." Before we continue this debate, you all might want to remember that you were the ones who just barred Harper from starting new threads in the Movie sub; it's all documented in black and white.

Talk soon.

There is no ban, northerncrane4—it's been rescinded. All the questions from the original post still stand. Those rules finally need some actual definition.

Regarding that last warning you're citing, it's totally clean. Mirrorball said that as far as he's concerned, the discussion was over, after which you kept arguing, leading quietdriver3 to respond, and then you quoted Mirrorball's sentence saying the discussion was over. Except you're the one who continued after that sentence. You. Not quietdriver3. You.

Like I said, I'm going to contest that warning. By the way, start prepping those PMs for the admins (the kind involving the most egregious insults toward users or allusions to mental illness/treatment). Anyway, it's on me to report them; I'm just not sure if I can report them directly from the inbox via the red icon since you're a mod.

I also ask the administration to weigh in on these kinds of posts, as there are plenty of Splitter users here who didn't even vote for Kerum:

I haven't forgotten. Just like I haven't forgotten the way you used to bully people whenever you felt like a crowd was forming behind you.

Christian Taylor3 said:It’s pretty obvious, really—just like when the mods and administration decide to hide behind terms like "adult content." Crystal clear, quietdriver3. Besides, "You're allowed to drop links to pornographic content here, provided you give us a heads-up beforehand." Look, this is the final official word from the administration side of things. We’re already running behind schedule here, and honestly, looking at the official policy handbook, they keep using the term "adult content," but you won't find that definition anywhere except over on LES. Like I’ve said before, the rules just aren't where they ought to be. This kind of "adult" stuff is popping up all over Reddit, yet nobody is actually getting penalized for it. Please, just get this added to the main Reddit rules or include it in the guidelines for all the subreddits—just leave LES out of it.

That’s just not how it works. The only thing people actually have an issue with is how you constantly meddle in the subreddit's editing policies, throw around threats about how other users should act, try to boss the moderators around on their own jobs, and basically go on little vendettas against anyone who doesn't fit your mold. Those are the actual problems the mods have with you, and they're pretty much the only reasons you end up getting penalized.

Right now, I’m feeling exactly like Hannibal Lecter. With all due respect, about 80% of this is just straight-up fiction—and I don't even mean pathological lies, because that would actually be interesting. Trolling. Just one of those things that seems to be everywhere lately, isn't it?Just a classic mess-up that leaves me feeling completely washed up. I’m just sitting here thinking about those imaginary cardboard teeth. I guess he thinks he’s some kind of big shot worth a hundred bucks. We’ll have to take this up on Reddit later, though. Honestly, the way they’re moderating and driving people away like this isn't exactly going to fly with the higher-ups around here.

I’m going to need the admins to take a look at this one:

I honestly don't know why I even bother trying to explain this to anyone on Reddit, but here we are. It’s like talking to a brick wall sometimes, except the wall might actually have more interesting things to say about the local economy than most people in this thread. I was sitting there thinking about how much effort I put into these discussions, only to realize that half the replies are just people shouting into the void or making points that wouldn't hold up in a middle school debate. It’s a bit exhausting, really, though I suppose that’s just my life in a nutshell—trying to make sense of things while everyone else is busy chasing the latest shiny object. Anyway, if you actually want to get into the weeds of what I was saying, feel free, but don't expect me to hold your hand through it.
I honestly don't know how people manage to stay so incredibly worked up about this stuff all the time. It feels like everyone on Reddit is just waiting around for a reason to lose their minds over absolutely nothing. I was sitting there thinking about it, and it really hit me that we’re all just spinning our wheels in the sand here. It's almost impressive, in a deeply pathetic sort of way, how much energy goes into these pointless arguments. Personally, I'm just trying to keep my head down and get through the day without feeling the need to jump into the fray, though I suppose that makes me a bit of a bore, doesn't it?
I don't know about you guys, but I honestly can't wrap my head around how anyone could actually enjoy watching that movie. It felt like I was just sitting there, staring at a screen, waiting for something—anything—to actually happen, while the soundtrack just droned on in the background. It’s one of those experiences where you start questioning your own taste because you find yourself wondering if you missed some profound, deep metaphor that everyone else clearly caught. Honestly, it was pretty much a chore to get through.
I honestly don't know why I even bother engaging on Reddit sometimes, but here we are. It feels like I’m just shouting into a void, or maybe just talking to people who aren't really listening. You try to make a decent point, something thoughtful, and you get met with nothing but blank stares or, worse, some guy making a joke that isn't even funny. It’s a bit exhausting, if I'm being honest, though I suppose that's just the nature of the internet these days. We're all just wandering around this digital wasteland looking for a shred of actual conversation.
I honestly don't know why I even bother engaging on Reddit sometimes. It’s like watching a slow-motion train wreck where everyone thinks they’re the conductor. You see these people arguing over things that don't matter, acting like they've uncovered some grand conspiracy when they really just stumbled onto a basic fact they didn't understand five minutes ago. It’s exhausting, really. I try to stay out of the fray, but then someone drops a comment so profoundly stupid that I feel a physical need to correct it, just so my brain doesn't melt from the sheer lack of logic. Anyway, back to the void.

People calling others fascists or homophobes can just breeze right through without facing any kind of consequences—I'm honestly at the point where I feel like I need to be the godfather to northerncrane4 and pray he finally deigns to grace us with even the most basic warning—while meanwhile, I’m over here getting my ass kicked for nothing. . So, my ban was overturned (literally rescinded, and this thread explains why), which means the moderators over at the Movie subreddit now have to artificially inflate my status. All the arguments and evidence against them are laid out right here.

Oh, and just for the sake of accuracy, you don't have about ten warnings. You have closer to twenty.

I have 17 warnings out of 8,616 posts on Reddit, and I've never actually been banned. We've established that I don't hold any special privileges on this Reddit, which simultaneously debunks your little claims about me "threatening or harassing other users." Before we continue this debate, you all might want to remember that you were the ones who just barred Harper from starting new threads in the Movie sub; it's all documented in black and white.

Talk soon.

There is no ban, northerncrane4—it's been rescinded. All the questions from the original post still stand. Those rules finally need some actual definition.

Regarding that last warning you're citing, it's totally clean. Mirrorball said that as far as he's concerned, the discussion was over, after which you kept arguing, leading quietdriver3 to respond, and then you quoted Mirrorball's sentence saying the discussion was over. Except you're the one who continued after that sentence. You. Not quietdriver3. You.

Like I said, I'm going to contest that warning. By the way, start prepping those PMs for the admins (the kind involving the most egregious insults toward users or allusions to mental illness/treatment). Anyway, it's on me to report them; I'm just not sure if I can report them directly from the inbox via the red icon since you're a mod.

I also ask the administration to weigh in on these kinds of posts, as there are plenty of Splitter users here who didn't even vote for Kerum:

This is totally taken out of context, and it feels like a blatant attempt at trolling. Honestly, in the spirit of this new moderation direction, it actually handles a potential troll without needing more strikes or deleting posts.

Anyone can easily check that just by clicking the link.

NSFW = not safe for work

quietdriver3 said:But NSFW isn't really a warning, I guess. Like, what does that even mean? I actually tried to google it for an explanation, and it says: not safe for fucking. So, how does that actually relate to your hotlinking? 🤷

I mean, how is anyone supposed to believe that 80% when you're constantly lying? 🤷

And regarding the quote, I don't really see the issue. We could probably just break my sentence down into simple facts. Did you lie when you said you had a clean record? Yeah. Did you repeat that same lie twice (once in the banned corner and again in the appeal book)? Yeah. So, I guess it’s not just an acute thing, maybe more of a chronic problem.

A colleague already explained this in a previous post, I think.

Right now you’ve got 20 strikes, whereas before this latest incident you had 17. How far is that from those 10 or so strikes you were bragging about in your first post? Are we lying again?

Btw,

This actually just backs me up. If I say you were getting punished for stuff like this, and you're loaded with strikes, how exactly does that disprove my point?

I haven't forgotten. Just like I haven't forgotten the way you used to bully people whenever you felt like a crowd was forming behind you.

This is totally taken out of context, and it feels like a blatant attempt at trolling. Honestly, in the spirit of this new moderation direction, it actually handles a potential troll without needing more strikes or deleting posts.

Anyone can easily check that just by clicking the link.

https://www.google.com/#sclient=psy-a...w=1883&bih=898

You just got caught in a lie (the kind you seem to be throwing around quite generously here); don't tell me you didn't just Google "not safe for fucking."

And there was also a disclaimer next to that NSFW tag in English, saying "under 18..."

I'll say it again: the ban was overturned because the rules regarding "adult" content on Reddit were undefined or simply non-existent. Constantly bringing up that ban doesn't change anything. It’s zero argument. Everything was laid out in the opening post of this thread.

How is anyone supposed to believe that 80% figure when you're lying constantly? 🤷

We aren't going to talk like that.

As for the post being quoted, I don't see the issue. We can break my sentence down into simple facts. Did you lie when you claimed to have a clean record of cardboard teeth? Yes. Did you repeat that same lie twice (once in the banned section and again in the appeals book)? Yes. So we aren't looking at an acute issue here, but a chronic one.

Christian Taylor3 said:I meant "clean record of cardboard teeth" as in having zero penalty points at the time of the ban. Yeah, I phrased that poorly.

Stop ignoring this and accusing me of pathological lying, especially when you're the one who moderates the movie you moderate every other year. I don't recall your moderator interventions over there, and I have a photographic memory. You only show up in the "complaints and suggestions" book when things get heated. I pointed out the exact same thing regarding The Dude (for months or years, Smoogja was the only one moderating the PDF for that movie).

A colleague already laid this out in their previous post.

I’ve made my point too. Baseless accusations of fascism fly by without even getting a single cardboard teeth, whereas repeating a quote gets punished solely because it forces moderators to ban people. That's just the reality of it; you can see the links in the post above.

Right now you’re sitting at 20 warnings, and before this latest mess, you had 17. How far is that from the 10 or so warnings you were bragging about in your first post? Are we lying again?

Btw,

This actually supports my argument. If I claim you were being disciplined for stuff like that, and you're clearly covered in warnings, how exactly does that debunk me?

I honestly can't believe you're calling me a liar over a handful of warnings. If every user here, with three years of tenure and over 8k posts, managed to rack up only 20 warnings without anyone ever getting banned, this place—along with KZB—wouldn't even exist.

It absolutely debunks you; if I was supposedly just harassing, bullying, mistreating, and mobbing users—which is a total lie, since I only "snapped" at trolls who were immediately kicked off the subreddit—then that falls entirely on your shoulders as the moderator for the movie you moderate. How could I have gotten away with all that without any sanctions, even during the ZgSash era? Care to explain that? And who exactly is responsible for that?

I haven't forgotten. Just as I haven't forgotten the mobbing you pulled every time you felt the crowd turning against you.

First, explain why you guys decisively banned Harper from opening new threads on the movie subreddit; after that, I'll give you an elaborate breakdown proving he still does all those exact things that got him banned in the first place.

That was taken out of context and is part of an attempt to troll. Actually, in the spirit of the new moderation direction, it handles a potential troll without needing any warnings or deleting posts.

Something anyone can easily verify just by clicking the link.

Nothing was taken out of context; it was a blatant insult to the user northerncrane4 is referring to. That user just happens to be from Miami, just like hundreds of other users. Why wasn't that given a warning if it was trolling?

Moderators are supposed to set the example for everyone else on the platform. Period. That’s the issue with the movie subreddit; northerncrane4, with that absolutely unacceptable way of communicating with users, is a terrible example for others. Yeah, even for me—we're all human, and I've got my own share of sins.

Christian Taylor3 said:https://www.google.com/#sclient=psy-a...w=1883&bih=898

You just got caught in a lie (the kind you seem to be throwing around quite generously here); don't tell me you didn't just Google "not safe for fucking."

And there was also a disclaimer next to that NSFW tag in English, saying "under 18..."

I'll say it again: the ban was overturned because the rules regarding "adult" content on Reddit were undefined or simply non-existent. Constantly bringing up that ban doesn't change anything. It’s zero argument. Everything was laid out in the opening post of this thread.

How is anyone supposed to believe that 80% figure when you're lying constantly? 🤷

We aren't going to talk like that.

As for the post being quoted, I don't see the issue. We can break my sentence down into simple facts. Did you lie when you claimed to have a clean record of cardboard teeth? Yes. Did you repeat that same lie twice (once in the banned section and again in the appeals book)? Yes. So we aren't looking at an acute issue here, but a chronic one.

Stop ignoring this and accusing me of pathological lying, especially when you're the one who moderates the movie you moderate every other year. I don't recall your moderator interventions over there, and I have a photographic memory. You only show up in the "complaints and suggestions" book when things get heated. I pointed out the exact same thing regarding The Dude (for months or years, Smoogja was the only one moderating the PDF for that movie).

A colleague already laid this out in their previous post.

I’ve made my point too. Baseless accusations of fascism fly by without even getting a single cardboard teeth, whereas repeating a quote gets punished solely because it forces moderators to ban people. That's just the reality of it; you can see the links in the post above.

Right now you’re sitting at 20 warnings, and before this latest mess, you had 17. How far is that from the 10 or so warnings you were bragging about in your first post? Are we lying again?

Btw,

This actually supports my argument. If I claim you were being disciplined for stuff like that, and you're clearly covered in warnings, how exactly does that debunk me?

I honestly can't believe you're calling me a liar over a handful of warnings. If every user here, with three years of tenure and over 8k posts, managed to rack up only 20 warnings without anyone ever getting banned, this place—along with KZB—wouldn't even exist.

It absolutely debunks you; if I was supposedly just harassing, bullying, mistreating, and mobbing users—which is a total lie, since I only "snapped" at trolls who were immediately kicked off the subreddit—then that falls entirely on your shoulders as the moderator for the movie you moderate. How could I have gotten away with all that without any sanctions, even during the ZgSash era? Care to explain that? And who exactly is responsible for that?

I haven't forgotten. Just as I haven't forgotten the mobbing you pulled every time you felt the crowd turning against you.

First, explain why you guys decisively banned Harper from opening new threads on the movie subreddit; after that, I'll give you an elaborate breakdown proving he still does all those exact things that got him banned in the first place.

That was taken out of context and is part of an attempt to troll. Actually, in the spirit of the new moderation direction, it handles a potential troll without needing any warnings or deleting posts.

Something anyone can easily verify just by clicking the link.

Nothing was taken out of context; it was a blatant insult to the user northerncrane4 is referring to. That user just happens to be from Miami, just like hundreds of other users. Why wasn't that given a warning if it was trolling?

Moderators are supposed to set the example for everyone else on the platform. Period. That’s the issue with the movie subreddit; northerncrane4, with that absolutely unacceptable way of communicating with users, is a terrible example for others. Yeah, even for me—we're all human, and I've got my own share of sins.

No, that wasn't actually a lie, just a slip of the tongue, I guess. Honestly, "Fucking" almost made more sense to me than "work" in that context. Like, what is this "not safe for work" warning anyway? It's kind of a weird thing to see... but what is it even warning about?

Christian Taylor3 said:https://www.google.com/#sclient=psy-a...w=1883&bih=898

You just got caught in a lie (the kind you seem to be throwing around quite generously here); don't tell me you didn't just Google "not safe for fucking."

And there was also a disclaimer next to that NSFW tag in English, saying "under 18..."

I'll say it again: the ban was overturned because the rules regarding "adult" content on Reddit were undefined or simply non-existent. Constantly bringing up that ban doesn't change anything. It’s zero argument. Everything was laid out in the opening post of this thread.

How is anyone supposed to believe that 80% figure when you're lying constantly? 🤷

We aren't going to talk like that.

As for the post being quoted, I don't see the issue. We can break my sentence down into simple facts. Did you lie when you claimed to have a clean record of cardboard teeth? Yes. Did you repeat that same lie twice (once in the banned section and again in the appeals book)? Yes. So we aren't looking at an acute issue here, but a chronic one.

Stop ignoring this and accusing me of pathological lying, especially when you're the one who moderates the movie you moderate every other year. I don't recall your moderator interventions over there, and I have a photographic memory. You only show up in the "complaints and suggestions" book when things get heated. I pointed out the exact same thing regarding The Dude (for months or years, Smoogja was the only one moderating the PDF for that movie).

A colleague already laid this out in their previous post.

I’ve made my point too. Baseless accusations of fascism fly by without even getting a single cardboard teeth, whereas repeating a quote gets punished solely because it forces moderators to ban people. That's just the reality of it; you can see the links in the post above.

Right now you’re sitting at 20 warnings, and before this latest mess, you had 17. How far is that from the 10 or so warnings you were bragging about in your first post? Are we lying again?

Btw,

This actually supports my argument. If I claim you were being disciplined for stuff like that, and you're clearly covered in warnings, how exactly does that debunk me?

I honestly can't believe you're calling me a liar over a handful of warnings. If every user here, with three years of tenure and over 8k posts, managed to rack up only 20 warnings without anyone ever getting banned, this place—along with KZB—wouldn't even exist.

It absolutely debunks you; if I was supposedly just harassing, bullying, mistreating, and mobbing users—which is a total lie, since I only "snapped" at trolls who were immediately kicked off the subreddit—then that falls entirely on your shoulders as the moderator for the movie you moderate. How could I have gotten away with all that without any sanctions, even during the ZgSash era? Care to explain that? And who exactly is responsible for that?

I haven't forgotten. Just as I haven't forgotten the mobbing you pulled every time you felt the crowd turning against you.

First, explain why you guys decisively banned Harper from opening new threads on the movie subreddit; after that, I'll give you an elaborate breakdown proving he still does all those exact things that got him banned in the first place.

That was taken out of context and is part of an attempt to troll. Actually, in the spirit of the new moderation direction, it handles a potential troll without needing any warnings or deleting posts.

Something anyone can easily verify just by clicking the link.

Nothing was taken out of context; it was a blatant insult to the user northerncrane4 is referring to. That user just happens to be from Miami, just like hundreds of other users. Why wasn't that given a warning if it was trolling?

Moderators are supposed to set the example for everyone else on the platform. Period. That’s the issue with the movie subreddit; northerncrane4, with that absolutely unacceptable way of communicating with users, is a terrible example for others. Yeah, even for me—we're all human, and I've got my own share of sins.

Look, please don't insult my intelligence here. I mean, anyone with even a basic grasp of how semantics works would realize that having a "clean record" isn't exactly the same thing as having "zero penalty points at the moment of the ban." It's just different, I guess.

So, I'm saying this for the thousandth time now... just please, stop with all the lies and the constant games.

Christian Taylor3 said:https://www.google.com/#sclient=psy-a...w=1883&bih=898

You just got caught in a lie (the kind you seem to be throwing around quite generously here); don't tell me you didn't just Google "not safe for fucking."

And there was also a disclaimer next to that NSFW tag in English, saying "under 18..."

I'll say it again: the ban was overturned because the rules regarding "adult" content on Reddit were undefined or simply non-existent. Constantly bringing up that ban doesn't change anything. It’s zero argument. Everything was laid out in the opening post of this thread.

How is anyone supposed to believe that 80% figure when you're lying constantly? 🤷

We aren't going to talk like that.

As for the post being quoted, I don't see the issue. We can break my sentence down into simple facts. Did you lie when you claimed to have a clean record of cardboard teeth? Yes. Did you repeat that same lie twice (once in the banned section and again in the appeals book)? Yes. So we aren't looking at an acute issue here, but a chronic one.

Stop ignoring this and accusing me of pathological lying, especially when you're the one who moderates the movie you moderate every other year. I don't recall your moderator interventions over there, and I have a photographic memory. You only show up in the "complaints and suggestions" book when things get heated. I pointed out the exact same thing regarding The Dude (for months or years, Smoogja was the only one moderating the PDF for that movie).

A colleague already laid this out in their previous post.

I’ve made my point too. Baseless accusations of fascism fly by without even getting a single cardboard teeth, whereas repeating a quote gets punished solely because it forces moderators to ban people. That's just the reality of it; you can see the links in the post above.

Right now you’re sitting at 20 warnings, and before this latest mess, you had 17. How far is that from the 10 or so warnings you were bragging about in your first post? Are we lying again?

Btw,

This actually supports my argument. If I claim you were being disciplined for stuff like that, and you're clearly covered in warnings, how exactly does that debunk me?

I honestly can't believe you're calling me a liar over a handful of warnings. If every user here, with three years of tenure and over 8k posts, managed to rack up only 20 warnings without anyone ever getting banned, this place—along with KZB—wouldn't even exist.

It absolutely debunks you; if I was supposedly just harassing, bullying, mistreating, and mobbing users—which is a total lie, since I only "snapped" at trolls who were immediately kicked off the subreddit—then that falls entirely on your shoulders as the moderator for the movie you moderate. How could I have gotten away with all that without any sanctions, even during the ZgSash era? Care to explain that? And who exactly is responsible for that?

I haven't forgotten. Just as I haven't forgotten the mobbing you pulled every time you felt the crowd turning against you.

First, explain why you guys decisively banned Harper from opening new threads on the movie subreddit; after that, I'll give you an elaborate breakdown proving he still does all those exact things that got him banned in the first place.

That was taken out of context and is part of an attempt to troll. Actually, in the spirit of the new moderation direction, it handles a potential troll without needing any warnings or deleting posts.

Something anyone can easily verify just by clicking the link.

Nothing was taken out of context; it was a blatant insult to the user northerncrane4 is referring to. That user just happens to be from Miami, just like hundreds of other users. Why wasn't that given a warning if it was trolling?

Moderators are supposed to set the example for everyone else on the platform. Period. That’s the issue with the movie subreddit; northerncrane4, with that absolutely unacceptable way of communicating with users, is a terrible example for others. Yeah, even for me—we're all human, and I've got my own share of sins.

Not really. It's more like photographic memory mixed with a heavy dose of Photoshop.

I mean, I feel like the credibility of your memory around here has been called into question quite a few times already. Maybe it’s just me, but it seems like that's been the case for a while now.

Christian Taylor3 said:https://www.google.com/#sclient=psy-a...w=1883&bih=898

You just got caught in a lie (the kind you seem to be throwing around quite generously here); don't tell me you didn't just Google "not safe for fucking."

And there was also a disclaimer next to that NSFW tag in English, saying "under 18..."

I'll say it again: the ban was overturned because the rules regarding "adult" content on Reddit were undefined or simply non-existent. Constantly bringing up that ban doesn't change anything. It’s zero argument. Everything was laid out in the opening post of this thread.

How is anyone supposed to believe that 80% figure when you're lying constantly? 🤷

We aren't going to talk like that.

As for the post being quoted, I don't see the issue. We can break my sentence down into simple facts. Did you lie when you claimed to have a clean record of cardboard teeth? Yes. Did you repeat that same lie twice (once in the banned section and again in the appeals book)? Yes. So we aren't looking at an acute issue here, but a chronic one.

Stop ignoring this and accusing me of pathological lying, especially when you're the one who moderates the movie you moderate every other year. I don't recall your moderator interventions over there, and I have a photographic memory. You only show up in the "complaints and suggestions" book when things get heated. I pointed out the exact same thing regarding The Dude (for months or years, Smoogja was the only one moderating the PDF for that movie).

A colleague already laid this out in their previous post.

I’ve made my point too. Baseless accusations of fascism fly by without even getting a single cardboard teeth, whereas repeating a quote gets punished solely because it forces moderators to ban people. That's just the reality of it; you can see the links in the post above.

Right now you’re sitting at 20 warnings, and before this latest mess, you had 17. How far is that from the 10 or so warnings you were bragging about in your first post? Are we lying again?

Btw,

This actually supports my argument. If I claim you were being disciplined for stuff like that, and you're clearly covered in warnings, how exactly does that debunk me?

I honestly can't believe you're calling me a liar over a handful of warnings. If every user here, with three years of tenure and over 8k posts, managed to rack up only 20 warnings without anyone ever getting banned, this place—along with KZB—wouldn't even exist.

It absolutely debunks you; if I was supposedly just harassing, bullying, mistreating, and mobbing users—which is a total lie, since I only "snapped" at trolls who were immediately kicked off the subreddit—then that falls entirely on your shoulders as the moderator for the movie you moderate. How could I have gotten away with all that without any sanctions, even during the ZgSash era? Care to explain that? And who exactly is responsible for that?

I haven't forgotten. Just as I haven't forgotten the mobbing you pulled every time you felt the crowd turning against you.

First, explain why you guys decisively banned Harper from opening new threads on the movie subreddit; after that, I'll give you an elaborate breakdown proving he still does all those exact things that got him banned in the first place.

That was taken out of context and is part of an attempt to troll. Actually, in the spirit of the new moderation direction, it handles a potential troll without needing any warnings or deleting posts.

Something anyone can easily verify just by clicking the link.

Nothing was taken out of context; it was a blatant insult to the user northerncrane4 is referring to. That user just happens to be from Miami, just like hundreds of other users. Why wasn't that given a warning if it was trolling?

Moderators are supposed to set the example for everyone else on the platform. Period. That’s the issue with the movie subreddit; northerncrane4, with that absolutely unacceptable way of communicating with users, is a terrible example for others. Yeah, even for me—we're all human, and I've got my own share of sins.

So, what exactly is your beef? I mean, aren't you always complaining about how there's too much cardboard flying around and how we need more moderator restraint with stuff like that? Isn't it kind of the definition of double standards to demand different rules for yourself? I guess if I called you out for being a hypocrite right now, it would just turn into more whining.

Christian Taylor3 said:https://www.google.com/#sclient=psy-a...w=1883&bih=898

You just got caught in a lie (the kind you seem to be throwing around quite generously here); don't tell me you didn't just Google "not safe for fucking."

And there was also a disclaimer next to that NSFW tag in English, saying "under 18..."

I'll say it again: the ban was overturned because the rules regarding "adult" content on Reddit were undefined or simply non-existent. Constantly bringing up that ban doesn't change anything. It’s zero argument. Everything was laid out in the opening post of this thread.

How is anyone supposed to believe that 80% figure when you're lying constantly? 🤷

We aren't going to talk like that.

As for the post being quoted, I don't see the issue. We can break my sentence down into simple facts. Did you lie when you claimed to have a clean record of cardboard teeth? Yes. Did you repeat that same lie twice (once in the banned section and again in the appeals book)? Yes. So we aren't looking at an acute issue here, but a chronic one.

Stop ignoring this and accusing me of pathological lying, especially when you're the one who moderates the movie you moderate every other year. I don't recall your moderator interventions over there, and I have a photographic memory. You only show up in the "complaints and suggestions" book when things get heated. I pointed out the exact same thing regarding The Dude (for months or years, Smoogja was the only one moderating the PDF for that movie).

A colleague already laid this out in their previous post.

I’ve made my point too. Baseless accusations of fascism fly by without even getting a single cardboard teeth, whereas repeating a quote gets punished solely because it forces moderators to ban people. That's just the reality of it; you can see the links in the post above.

Right now you’re sitting at 20 warnings, and before this latest mess, you had 17. How far is that from the 10 or so warnings you were bragging about in your first post? Are we lying again?

Btw,

This actually supports my argument. If I claim you were being disciplined for stuff like that, and you're clearly covered in warnings, how exactly does that debunk me?

I honestly can't believe you're calling me a liar over a handful of warnings. If every user here, with three years of tenure and over 8k posts, managed to rack up only 20 warnings without anyone ever getting banned, this place—along with KZB—wouldn't even exist.

It absolutely debunks you; if I was supposedly just harassing, bullying, mistreating, and mobbing users—which is a total lie, since I only "snapped" at trolls who were immediately kicked off the subreddit—then that falls entirely on your shoulders as the moderator for the movie you moderate. How could I have gotten away with all that without any sanctions, even during the ZgSash era? Care to explain that? And who exactly is responsible for that?

I haven't forgotten. Just as I haven't forgotten the mobbing you pulled every time you felt the crowd turning against you.

First, explain why you guys decisively banned Harper from opening new threads on the movie subreddit; after that, I'll give you an elaborate breakdown proving he still does all those exact things that got him banned in the first place.

That was taken out of context and is part of an attempt to troll. Actually, in the spirit of the new moderation direction, it handles a potential troll without needing any warnings or deleting posts.

Something anyone can easily verify just by clicking the link.

Nothing was taken out of context; it was a blatant insult to the user northerncrane4 is referring to. That user just happens to be from Miami, just like hundreds of other users. Why wasn't that given a warning if it was trolling?

Moderators are supposed to set the example for everyone else on the platform. Period. That’s the issue with the movie subreddit; northerncrane4, with that absolutely unacceptable way of communicating with users, is a terrible example for others. Yeah, even for me—we're all human, and I've got my own share of sins.

I honestly can't believe how far you're willing to push this rudeness. Now we’re talking about plus or minus a few cards? I mean, saying ten cards or seventeen or twenty cards isn't just some tiny difference. It's... I don't know, it feels like a flat-out lie compared to the other version. Any dictionary out there would tell you the exact same thing, I guess.

Christian Taylor3 said:https://www.google.com/#sclient=psy-a...w=1883&bih=898

You just got caught in a lie (the kind you seem to be throwing around quite generously here); don't tell me you didn't just Google "not safe for fucking."

And there was also a disclaimer next to that NSFW tag in English, saying "under 18..."

I'll say it again: the ban was overturned because the rules regarding "adult" content on Reddit were undefined or simply non-existent. Constantly bringing up that ban doesn't change anything. It’s zero argument. Everything was laid out in the opening post of this thread.

How is anyone supposed to believe that 80% figure when you're lying constantly? 🤷

We aren't going to talk like that.

As for the post being quoted, I don't see the issue. We can break my sentence down into simple facts. Did you lie when you claimed to have a clean record of cardboard teeth? Yes. Did you repeat that same lie twice (once in the banned section and again in the appeals book)? Yes. So we aren't looking at an acute issue here, but a chronic one.

Stop ignoring this and accusing me of pathological lying, especially when you're the one who moderates the movie you moderate every other year. I don't recall your moderator interventions over there, and I have a photographic memory. You only show up in the "complaints and suggestions" book when things get heated. I pointed out the exact same thing regarding The Dude (for months or years, Smoogja was the only one moderating the PDF for that movie).

A colleague already laid this out in their previous post.

I’ve made my point too. Baseless accusations of fascism fly by without even getting a single cardboard teeth, whereas repeating a quote gets punished solely because it forces moderators to ban people. That's just the reality of it; you can see the links in the post above.

Right now you’re sitting at 20 warnings, and before this latest mess, you had 17. How far is that from the 10 or so warnings you were bragging about in your first post? Are we lying again?

Btw,

This actually supports my argument. If I claim you were being disciplined for stuff like that, and you're clearly covered in warnings, how exactly does that debunk me?

I honestly can't believe you're calling me a liar over a handful of warnings. If every user here, with three years of tenure and over 8k posts, managed to rack up only 20 warnings without anyone ever getting banned, this place—along with KZB—wouldn't even exist.

It absolutely debunks you; if I was supposedly just harassing, bullying, mistreating, and mobbing users—which is a total lie, since I only "snapped" at trolls who were immediately kicked off the subreddit—then that falls entirely on your shoulders as the moderator for the movie you moderate. How could I have gotten away with all that without any sanctions, even during the ZgSash era? Care to explain that? And who exactly is responsible for that?

I haven't forgotten. Just as I haven't forgotten the mobbing you pulled every time you felt the crowd turning against you.

First, explain why you guys decisively banned Harper from opening new threads on the movie subreddit; after that, I'll give you an elaborate breakdown proving he still does all those exact things that got him banned in the first place.

That was taken out of context and is part of an attempt to troll. Actually, in the spirit of the new moderation direction, it handles a potential troll without needing any warnings or deleting posts.

Something anyone can easily verify just by clicking the link.

Nothing was taken out of context; it was a blatant insult to the user northerncrane4 is referring to. That user just happens to be from Miami, just like hundreds of other users. Why wasn't that given a warning if it was trolling?

Moderators are supposed to set the example for everyone else on the platform. Period. That’s the issue with the movie subreddit; northerncrane4, with that absolutely unacceptable way of communicating with users, is a terrible example for others. Yeah, even for me—we're all human, and I've got my own share of sins.

Well, you got banned, and honestly, we pretty much proved that was coming. But at the same time, there were plenty of warnings and attempts to wipe the slate clean. I guess it just goes to show how rarely we actually go for the ban hammer on the movie subreddit, unless things get really extreme.

Christian Taylor3 said:https://www.google.com/#sclient=psy-a...w=1883&bih=898

You just got caught in a lie (the kind you seem to be throwing around quite generously here); don't tell me you didn't just Google "not safe for fucking."

And there was also a disclaimer next to that NSFW tag in English, saying "under 18..."

I'll say it again: the ban was overturned because the rules regarding "adult" content on Reddit were undefined or simply non-existent. Constantly bringing up that ban doesn't change anything. It’s zero argument. Everything was laid out in the opening post of this thread.

How is anyone supposed to believe that 80% figure when you're lying constantly? 🤷

We aren't going to talk like that.

As for the post being quoted, I don't see the issue. We can break my sentence down into simple facts. Did you lie when you claimed to have a clean record of cardboard teeth? Yes. Did you repeat that same lie twice (once in the banned section and again in the appeals book)? Yes. So we aren't looking at an acute issue here, but a chronic one.

Stop ignoring this and accusing me of pathological lying, especially when you're the one who moderates the movie you moderate every other year. I don't recall your moderator interventions over there, and I have a photographic memory. You only show up in the "complaints and suggestions" book when things get heated. I pointed out the exact same thing regarding The Dude (for months or years, Smoogja was the only one moderating the PDF for that movie).

A colleague already laid this out in their previous post.

I’ve made my point too. Baseless accusations of fascism fly by without even getting a single cardboard teeth, whereas repeating a quote gets punished solely because it forces moderators to ban people. That's just the reality of it; you can see the links in the post above.

Right now you’re sitting at 20 warnings, and before this latest mess, you had 17. How far is that from the 10 or so warnings you were bragging about in your first post? Are we lying again?

Btw,

This actually supports my argument. If I claim you were being disciplined for stuff like that, and you're clearly covered in warnings, how exactly does that debunk me?

I honestly can't believe you're calling me a liar over a handful of warnings. If every user here, with three years of tenure and over 8k posts, managed to rack up only 20 warnings without anyone ever getting banned, this place—along with KZB—wouldn't even exist.

It absolutely debunks you; if I was supposedly just harassing, bullying, mistreating, and mobbing users—which is a total lie, since I only "snapped" at trolls who were immediately kicked off the subreddit—then that falls entirely on your shoulders as the moderator for the movie you moderate. How could I have gotten away with all that without any sanctions, even during the ZgSash era? Care to explain that? And who exactly is responsible for that?

I haven't forgotten. Just as I haven't forgotten the mobbing you pulled every time you felt the crowd turning against you.

First, explain why you guys decisively banned Harper from opening new threads on the movie subreddit; after that, I'll give you an elaborate breakdown proving he still does all those exact things that got him banned in the first place.

That was taken out of context and is part of an attempt to troll. Actually, in the spirit of the new moderation direction, it handles a potential troll without needing any warnings or deleting posts.

Something anyone can easily verify just by clicking the link.

Nothing was taken out of context; it was a blatant insult to the user northerncrane4 is referring to. That user just happens to be from Miami, just like hundreds of other users. Why wasn't that given a warning if it was trolling?

Moderators are supposed to set the example for everyone else on the platform. Period. That’s the issue with the movie subreddit; northerncrane4, with that absolutely unacceptable way of communicating with users, is a terrible example for others. Yeah, even for me—we're all human, and I've got my own share of sins.

Even if Harper happens to be the biggest troll in the entire universe, that still doesn't justify how you're acting or putting people down like that. I mean, honestly, it just makes the whole conversation feel pretty pointless to me.

Christian Taylor3 said:https://www.google.com/#sclient=psy-a...w=1883&bih=898

You just got caught in a lie (the kind you seem to be throwing around quite generously here); don't tell me you didn't just Google "not safe for fucking."

And there was also a disclaimer next to that NSFW tag in English, saying "under 18..."

I'll say it again: the ban was overturned because the rules regarding "adult" content on Reddit were undefined or simply non-existent. Constantly bringing up that ban doesn't change anything. It’s zero argument. Everything was laid out in the opening post of this thread.

How is anyone supposed to believe that 80% figure when you're lying constantly? 🤷

We aren't going to talk like that.

As for the post being quoted, I don't see the issue. We can break my sentence down into simple facts. Did you lie when you claimed to have a clean record of cardboard teeth? Yes. Did you repeat that same lie twice (once in the banned section and again in the appeals book)? Yes. So we aren't looking at an acute issue here, but a chronic one.

Stop ignoring this and accusing me of pathological lying, especially when you're the one who moderates the movie you moderate every other year. I don't recall your moderator interventions over there, and I have a photographic memory. You only show up in the "complaints and suggestions" book when things get heated. I pointed out the exact same thing regarding The Dude (for months or years, Smoogja was the only one moderating the PDF for that movie).

A colleague already laid this out in their previous post.

I’ve made my point too. Baseless accusations of fascism fly by without even getting a single cardboard teeth, whereas repeating a quote gets punished solely because it forces moderators to ban people. That's just the reality of it; you can see the links in the post above.

Right now you’re sitting at 20 warnings, and before this latest mess, you had 17. How far is that from the 10 or so warnings you were bragging about in your first post? Are we lying again?

Btw,

This actually supports my argument. If I claim you were being disciplined for stuff like that, and you're clearly covered in warnings, how exactly does that debunk me?

I honestly can't believe you're calling me a liar over a handful of warnings. If every user here, with three years of tenure and over 8k posts, managed to rack up only 20 warnings without anyone ever getting banned, this place—along with KZB—wouldn't even exist.

It absolutely debunks you; if I was supposedly just harassing, bullying, mistreating, and mobbing users—which is a total lie, since I only "snapped" at trolls who were immediately kicked off the subreddit—then that falls entirely on your shoulders as the moderator for the movie you moderate. How could I have gotten away with all that without any sanctions, even during the ZgSash era? Care to explain that? And who exactly is responsible for that?

I haven't forgotten. Just as I haven't forgotten the mobbing you pulled every time you felt the crowd turning against you.

First, explain why you guys decisively banned Harper from opening new threads on the movie subreddit; after that, I'll give you an elaborate breakdown proving he still does all those exact things that got him banned in the first place.

That was taken out of context and is part of an attempt to troll. Actually, in the spirit of the new moderation direction, it handles a potential troll without needing any warnings or deleting posts.

Something anyone can easily verify just by clicking the link.

Nothing was taken out of context; it was a blatant insult to the user northerncrane4 is referring to. That user just happens to be from Miami, just like hundreds of other users. Why wasn't that given a warning if it was trolling?

Moderators are supposed to set the example for everyone else on the platform. Period. That’s the issue with the movie subreddit; northerncrane4, with that absolutely unacceptable way of communicating with users, is a terrible example for others. Yeah, even for me—we're all human, and I've got my own share of sins.

Of course it was. It was handled in the most childish, immature, and downright shady way possible. I guess that's just how things go sometimes.

I mean, I guess anyone could just click the link and see exactly how that whole post even happened in the first place.

I still don't really get why you're calling for bans when you're usually the loudest one arguing that we should have as few of them as possible. I guess I'm just confused.

Christian Taylor3 said:https://www.google.com/#sclient=psy-a...w=1883&bih=898

You just got caught in a lie (the kind you seem to be throwing around quite generously here); don't tell me you didn't just Google "not safe for fucking."

And there was also a disclaimer next to that NSFW tag in English, saying "under 18..."

I'll say it again: the ban was overturned because the rules regarding "adult" content on Reddit were undefined or simply non-existent. Constantly bringing up that ban doesn't change anything. It’s zero argument. Everything was laid out in the opening post of this thread.

How is anyone supposed to believe that 80% figure when you're lying constantly? 🤷

We aren't going to talk like that.

As for the post being quoted, I don't see the issue. We can break my sentence down into simple facts. Did you lie when you claimed to have a clean record of cardboard teeth? Yes. Did you repeat that same lie twice (once in the banned section and again in the appeals book)? Yes. So we aren't looking at an acute issue here, but a chronic one.

Stop ignoring this and accusing me of pathological lying, especially when you're the one who moderates the movie you moderate every other year. I don't recall your moderator interventions over there, and I have a photographic memory. You only show up in the "complaints and suggestions" book when things get heated. I pointed out the exact same thing regarding The Dude (for months or years, Smoogja was the only one moderating the PDF for that movie).

A colleague already laid this out in their previous post.

I’ve made my point too. Baseless accusations of fascism fly by without even getting a single cardboard teeth, whereas repeating a quote gets punished solely because it forces moderators to ban people. That's just the reality of it; you can see the links in the post above.

Right now you’re sitting at 20 warnings, and before this latest mess, you had 17. How far is that from the 10 or so warnings you were bragging about in your first post? Are we lying again?

Btw,

This actually supports my argument. If I claim you were being disciplined for stuff like that, and you're clearly covered in warnings, how exactly does that debunk me?

I honestly can't believe you're calling me a liar over a handful of warnings. If every user here, with three years of tenure and over 8k posts, managed to rack up only 20 warnings without anyone ever getting banned, this place—along with KZB—wouldn't even exist.

It absolutely debunks you; if I was supposedly just harassing, bullying, mistreating, and mobbing users—which is a total lie, since I only "snapped" at trolls who were immediately kicked off the subreddit—then that falls entirely on your shoulders as the moderator for the movie you moderate. How could I have gotten away with all that without any sanctions, even during the ZgSash era? Care to explain that? And who exactly is responsible for that?

I haven't forgotten. Just as I haven't forgotten the mobbing you pulled every time you felt the crowd turning against you.

First, explain why you guys decisively banned Harper from opening new threads on the movie subreddit; after that, I'll give you an elaborate breakdown proving he still does all those exact things that got him banned in the first place.

That was taken out of context and is part of an attempt to troll. Actually, in the spirit of the new moderation direction, it handles a potential troll without needing any warnings or deleting posts.

Something anyone can easily verify just by clicking the link.

Nothing was taken out of context; it was a blatant insult to the user northerncrane4 is referring to. That user just happens to be from Miami, just like hundreds of other users. Why wasn't that given a warning if it was trolling?

Moderators are supposed to set the example for everyone else on the platform. Period. That’s the issue with the movie subreddit; northerncrane4, with that absolutely unacceptable way of communicating with users, is a terrible example for others. Yeah, even for me—we're all human, and I've got my own share of sins.

And they protect people who just want a decent conversation from small-town sheriffs like you.Period..

Christian Taylor3 said:The whole mess is laid out right here: http://www.reddit.com/thread/727214 In the meantime, my ban was lifted, so I can't really reply over there. There's a lot of stuff left hanging in the air, so I’m politely asking the admins to jump back into the discussion.

NOTE: Some of the links lead to "adult" photos, so if you're under 18, maybe don't click. 😁

To put it more clearly, with one major difference ("Whether that's too strict or not is debatable, but that's how it is now."), it isn't like that anymore, as the ban didn't end up sticking. Since the ban was rescinded, we're here to discuss whether such a rigorous punishment was actually justified. For starters, if the admins were just having a brief exchange of opinions yesterday about what is and isn't allowed regarding pornography on Reddit, after which the rules are finally established, how could such a penalty have existed the day before, at the moment that famous/controversial "pornographic" post was published? In other words, "I didn't know yesterday that it would hurt me today".

To make matters even more absurd, it's now being implied that I only got off on a technicality. Am I O. J. Simpson now?

I have a specific question.I mean, why is that just some "unwritten rule," unfortunately? I’m honestly appealing to the admins here—can we please just actually put that line into the official rules?Reddit - rulesI mean, honestly, people on Reddit probably aren't even in a position to be asking for that. The corner for the banned.As long as that specific rule isn't actually on the books, handing out custom bans like that—without even a heads-up first—just feels like an incredibly disproportionate way to handle things.

Moving forward, then. It’s just not true that adult content only pops up on LES; people act like it’s some isolated issue, but honestly, it’s happening everywhere across the site, and it isn't exactly being policed either.There are hundreds of photos like this floating around, scattered everywhere from the soccer threads to the off-topic sections. If we actually applied that logic of yours—where every single subsequent post of this kind gets punished and any appeal is automatically rejected—you’d probably have to mass-ban about a hundred users from the soccer board right this second, myself included, over in the movie section. Just a heads-up: the stuff I'm posting below are the mild versions; things get a lot more intense than this.

I honestly don't know why I even bother trying to explain this to people on Reddit, but here we are. It feels like every time I try to have a nuanced conversation about anything remotely complex, someone jumps in with the most half-baked, surface-level take imaginable. It’s almost impressive how quickly a decent discussion can devolve into a shouting match over nothing. I'm sitting here thinking I've made a coherent point, only to realize I'm basically talking to a brick wall that occasionally shouts back. It’s a bit exhausting, if I'm being honest, though I suppose getting frustrated is just part of the ritual at this point.
I was just sitting there, staring at my screen, thinking about how much of a mess everything is, when I realized that being on Reddit is basically like being part of a giant, unorganized experiment in human patience. It’s funny, really, because you go in expecting some kind of intellectual discourse, and instead, you find yourself wading through endless threads where everyone is just shouting into the void, hoping someone—anyone—actually gives a damn. Honestly, I don't know why I bother checking back in so often, but I suppose it's a habit at this point, much like checking the mail even though most of what arrives is just junk or bills I'd rather ignore. It's all quite absurd if you step back and look at it from a distance, isn't it?
I honestly can't tell if I'm losing my mind or if everyone else is just collectively deciding to ignore reality, but this whole situation feels incredibly surreal. It’s like we’re all sitting around watching some bizarre indie movie where nothing makes sense and the plot is just a series of unfortunate events. I was scrolling through Reddit earlier, trying to find some semblance of logic, and it felt like I was just staring into an abyss of nonsense. It's almost funny, in a deeply depressing sort of way, how much effort people put into being completely wrong about everything. I'm just sitting here, probably looking like a total idiot, wondering when the actual point of any of this is going to be made.
I don't know what to tell you, I just think that if we’re going to sit around on Reddit discussing how people behave, we might as well be honest about the fact that most of us are just performing for an audience that isn't even paying attention. It's like watching someone try to explain the nuances of a classic noir movie to a room full of people who are just there for the free popcorn; you're putting in all this effort, trying to be deep or insightful, while everyone else is just waiting for the credits to roll so they can go grab a burger. Honestly, I feel like I spend half my life overthinking things that probably don't matter, acting like my internal monologue is some profound piece of literature when, in reality, it's mostly just me wondering if I left the stove on or if I actually have a personality beyond being mildly cynical. It's a bit pathetic, really, but hey, at least I'm consistent in my mediocrity.
I honestly don't know why I even bother engaging on Reddit sometimes, because half the time it feels like I’m just shouting into a void filled with people who haven't had their coffee yet. You look at these discussions and realize how much energy we waste arguing over things that won't matter by next Tuesday, though I suppose that's just the nature of the internet. It’s a strange little ecosystem we’ve built for ourselves, isn't it? Anyway, if you actually want to get anything done, you might as well just go Google it and save us all the headache of a three-hour debate that leads absolutely nowhere.

So, who’s actually going to step up and do this? Is it going to be Anderson? Mirrorball? Or maybe Nica? I’m genuinely curious which one of you actually has the guts to pull this off—no warning, no heads-up, just straight to the point—for a model citizen like Yurinova, whom I happen to know from the movie community, regarding this post: I honestly don't know why I even bother engaging on Reddit sometimes, because most of the discussions feel like they're circling a drain of pure nonsense. It’s one of those days where you realize that trying to have a coherent conversation online is basically like trying to teach a catatonic beaver how to play chess—you might see some movement, but nobody is actually winning anything. I was sitting there thinking about how much energy we waste arguing over things that don't matter, much like how people get worked up over whether a certain actor deserves an Oscar when we all know the script was garbage from page one. Anyway, I guess I'm just rambling now, probably because I haven't had enough coffee to deal with the sheer absurdity of this thread. Let's say, just for the sake of argument, that at the exact moment they get banned, they have zero penalty points—basically a spotless record. In that case, you guys are basically just... to I might not exactly be your idea of a "model citizen" on Reddit—I’ve racked up maybe ten warnings since 2009 and I've actually never been banned, though I did find myself getting kicked out once while sitting at a perfectly clean zero penalty points. Anyway, regarding enrollment... I guess this is how it starts. (on the movie subreddit)

So, I'm going to ask Anderson, Mirrorball, Nic, and Chika Strile one more time— So, looking back at it, was that custom ban actually a bit excessive?In a situation where the rules weren't even clearly defined yet, couldn't I have just been given a warning or maybe slapped with a minor 35-point penalty instead? Honestly, what stings the most isn't even the ban itself, but this whole implication that I only managed to dodge it because of some technicality.

Anderson kaze:
Also, let’s be real: bringing up how long someone has been around on Reddit is just a cheap way to dodge the point. It’s basically just advocating for double standards—as if we should have one set of rules for the veterans and another for everyone else. And honestly? No, we shouldn't.

I honestly don't know why I even bother engaging on Reddit sometimes, especially when conversations spiral this quickly. It feels like we're all just shouting into a void, or maybe just waiting for someone to say something actually intelligent. Anyway, if you're looking for my take on this whole mess, I’m just sitting here watching the chaos unfold, probably overthinking things that don't even matter. It’s fine, really. I'm used to it.

Of course not, there’s no double standard here—the rules apply to everyone equally. And honestly, I’m not even some veteran user; briskhound2 was actually the one who pointed that out first. I’ve been registered for three years, and there are plenty of people here who have been around much longer than I have. It wouldn't be fair to them if I went around calling myself an old-timer.

The whole illusion that I’m somehow a more "deserving" member of this Reddit is something you created yourself, specifically through your site, Monitor News: Let’s get one thing straight: I never asked Monitor to push things on the front page, and I never asked for a sticky on the movie PDF. I just came here to start a thread because I wanted to share something good with everyone—pure intentions, really. But it created this (wrong) impression that I’m privileged or operating under some special protection, which isn't true at all. How am I supposed to fight that perception, Zeljko? It’s becoming too much of a burden, and frankly, I don't want to carry it anymore.

It's not that I'm not welcome; it's more that I'm standing right by the exit—it's just that nobody has catapulted me out yet. It’s enough to say that after getting my ban lifted from zero yesterday, I’ve already climbed up to 70 points, mostly because people are handing me cardboard teeth for this: My goal is the magic number of 100, obviously, though I could probably just leave a single comma there and get deleted anyway (like I said, I won't be coming back). I'll let the rest of you decide what's actually going on here.

The icing on the cake was northerncrane4's post yesterday, right after yours:

Once again, northerncrane4, there isn't a trace of pornography here: Pornography is the explicit depiction of sexual intercourse. Why don't you come over and explain to us why this photo qualifies as pornography?

That’s not even an implication. It’s just a straight-up fact...

Christian Taylor3 said:It’s pretty obvious, really—just like when the mods and administration decide to hide behind terms like "adult content." Crystal clear, quietdriver3. Besides, "You're allowed to drop links to pornographic content here, provided you give us a heads-up beforehand." Look, this is the final official word from the administration side of things. We’re already running behind schedule here, and honestly, looking at the official policy handbook, they keep using the term "adult content," but you won't find that definition anywhere except over on LES. Like I’ve said before, the rules just aren't where they ought to be. This kind of "adult" stuff is popping up all over Reddit, yet nobody is actually getting penalized for it. Please, just get this added to the main Reddit rules or include it in the guidelines for all the subreddits—just leave LES out of it.

That’s just not how it works. The only thing people actually have an issue with is how you constantly meddle in the subreddit's editing policies, throw around threats about how other users should act, try to boss the moderators around on their own jobs, and basically go on little vendettas against anyone who doesn't fit your mold. Those are the actual problems the mods have with you, and they're pretty much the only reasons you end up getting penalized.

Right now, I’m feeling exactly like Hannibal Lecter. With all due respect, about 80% of this is just straight-up fiction—and I don't even mean pathological lies, because that would actually be interesting. Trolling. Just one of those things that seems to be everywhere lately, isn't it?Just a classic mess-up that leaves me feeling completely washed up. I’m just sitting here thinking about those imaginary cardboard teeth. I guess he thinks he’s some kind of big shot worth a hundred bucks. We’ll have to take this up on Reddit later, though. Honestly, the way they’re moderating and driving people away like this isn't exactly going to fly with the higher-ups around here.

I’m going to need the admins to take a look at this one:

I honestly don't know why I even bother trying to explain this to anyone on Reddit, but here we are. It’s like talking to a brick wall sometimes, except the wall might actually have more interesting things to say about the local economy than most people in this thread. I was sitting there thinking about how much effort I put into these discussions, only to realize that half the replies are just people shouting into the void or making points that wouldn't hold up in a middle school debate. It’s a bit exhausting, really, though I suppose that’s just my life in a nutshell—trying to make sense of things while everyone else is busy chasing the latest shiny object. Anyway, if you actually want to get into the weeds of what I was saying, feel free, but don't expect me to hold your hand through it.
I honestly don't know how people manage to stay so incredibly worked up about this stuff all the time. It feels like everyone on Reddit is just waiting around for a reason to lose their minds over absolutely nothing. I was sitting there thinking about it, and it really hit me that we’re all just spinning our wheels in the sand here. It's almost impressive, in a deeply pathetic sort of way, how much energy goes into these pointless arguments. Personally, I'm just trying to keep my head down and get through the day without feeling the need to jump into the fray, though I suppose that makes me a bit of a bore, doesn't it?
I don't know about you guys, but I honestly can't wrap my head around how anyone could actually enjoy watching that movie. It felt like I was just sitting there, staring at a screen, waiting for something—anything—to actually happen, while the soundtrack just droned on in the background. It’s one of those experiences where you start questioning your own taste because you find yourself wondering if you missed some profound, deep metaphor that everyone else clearly caught. Honestly, it was pretty much a chore to get through.
I honestly don't know why I even bother engaging on Reddit sometimes, but here we are. It feels like I’m just shouting into a void, or maybe just talking to people who aren't really listening. You try to make a decent point, something thoughtful, and you get met with nothing but blank stares or, worse, some guy making a joke that isn't even funny. It’s a bit exhausting, if I'm being honest, though I suppose that's just the nature of the internet these days. We're all just wandering around this digital wasteland looking for a shred of actual conversation.
I honestly don't know why I even bother engaging on Reddit sometimes. It’s like watching a slow-motion train wreck where everyone thinks they’re the conductor. You see these people arguing over things that don't matter, acting like they've uncovered some grand conspiracy when they really just stumbled onto a basic fact they didn't understand five minutes ago. It’s exhausting, really. I try to stay out of the fray, but then someone drops a comment so profoundly stupid that I feel a physical need to correct it, just so my brain doesn't melt from the sheer lack of logic. Anyway, back to the void.

People calling others fascists or homophobes can just breeze right through without facing any kind of consequences—I'm honestly at the point where I feel like I need to be the godfather to northerncrane4 and pray he finally deigns to grace us with even the most basic warning—while meanwhile, I’m over here getting my ass kicked for nothing. . So, my ban was overturned (literally rescinded, and this thread explains why), which means the moderators over at the Movie subreddit now have to artificially inflate my status. All the arguments and evidence against them are laid out right here.

Oh, and just for the sake of accuracy, you don't have about ten warnings. You have closer to twenty.

I have 17 warnings out of 8,616 posts on Reddit, and I've never actually been banned. We've established that I don't hold any special privileges on this Reddit, which simultaneously debunks your little claims about me "threatening or harassing other users." Before we continue this debate, you all might want to remember that you were the ones who just barred Harper from starting new threads in the Movie sub; it's all documented in black and white.

Talk soon.

There is no ban, northerncrane4—it's been rescinded. All the questions from the original post still stand. Those rules finally need some actual definition.

Regarding that last warning you're citing, it's totally clean. Mirrorball said that as far as he's concerned, the discussion was over, after which you kept arguing, leading quietdriver3 to respond, and then you quoted Mirrorball's sentence saying the discussion was over. Except you're the one who continued after that sentence. You. Not quietdriver3. You.

Like I said, I'm going to contest that warning. By the way, start prepping those PMs for the admins (the kind involving the most egregious insults toward users or allusions to mental illness/treatment). Anyway, it's on me to report them; I'm just not sure if I can report them directly from the inbox via the red icon since you're a mod.

I also ask the administration to weigh in on these kinds of posts, as there are plenty of Splitter users here who didn't even vote for Kerum:

Look, you're literally the only person here complaining about being kicked out. Honestly, though—it’s not just you. A ton of people on Reddit have already voiced their frustration with how much you meddle in everything over at the movies sub... always poking around, stirring the pot, acting like you're the one who decides who does what and how things should go down. It's getting old. If anyone actually feels targeted by our moderation, feel free to drop by here and let us know...

Christian Taylor3 said:https://www.google.com/#sclient=psy-a...w=1883&bih=898

You just got caught in a lie (the kind you seem to be throwing around quite generously here); don't tell me you didn't just Google "not safe for fucking."

And there was also a disclaimer next to that NSFW tag in English, saying "under 18..."

I'll say it again: the ban was overturned because the rules regarding "adult" content on Reddit were undefined or simply non-existent. Constantly bringing up that ban doesn't change anything. It’s zero argument. Everything was laid out in the opening post of this thread.

How is anyone supposed to believe that 80% figure when you're lying constantly? 🤷

We aren't going to talk like that.

As for the post being quoted, I don't see the issue. We can break my sentence down into simple facts. Did you lie when you claimed to have a clean record of cardboard teeth? Yes. Did you repeat that same lie twice (once in the banned section and again in the appeals book)? Yes. So we aren't looking at an acute issue here, but a chronic one.

Stop ignoring this and accusing me of pathological lying, especially when you're the one who moderates the movie you moderate every other year. I don't recall your moderator interventions over there, and I have a photographic memory. You only show up in the "complaints and suggestions" book when things get heated. I pointed out the exact same thing regarding The Dude (for months or years, Smoogja was the only one moderating the PDF for that movie).

A colleague already laid this out in their previous post.

I’ve made my point too. Baseless accusations of fascism fly by without even getting a single cardboard teeth, whereas repeating a quote gets punished solely because it forces moderators to ban people. That's just the reality of it; you can see the links in the post above.

Right now you’re sitting at 20 warnings, and before this latest mess, you had 17. How far is that from the 10 or so warnings you were bragging about in your first post? Are we lying again?

Btw,

This actually supports my argument. If I claim you were being disciplined for stuff like that, and you're clearly covered in warnings, how exactly does that debunk me?

I honestly can't believe you're calling me a liar over a handful of warnings. If every user here, with three years of tenure and over 8k posts, managed to rack up only 20 warnings without anyone ever getting banned, this place—along with KZB—wouldn't even exist.

It absolutely debunks you; if I was supposedly just harassing, bullying, mistreating, and mobbing users—which is a total lie, since I only "snapped" at trolls who were immediately kicked off the subreddit—then that falls entirely on your shoulders as the moderator for the movie you moderate. How could I have gotten away with all that without any sanctions, even during the ZgSash era? Care to explain that? And who exactly is responsible for that?

I haven't forgotten. Just as I haven't forgotten the mobbing you pulled every time you felt the crowd turning against you.

First, explain why you guys decisively banned Harper from opening new threads on the movie subreddit; after that, I'll give you an elaborate breakdown proving he still does all those exact things that got him banned in the first place.

That was taken out of context and is part of an attempt to troll. Actually, in the spirit of the new moderation direction, it handles a potential troll without needing any warnings or deleting posts.

Something anyone can easily verify just by clicking the link.

Nothing was taken out of context; it was a blatant insult to the user northerncrane4 is referring to. That user just happens to be from Miami, just like hundreds of other users. Why wasn't that given a warning if it was trolling?

Moderators are supposed to set the example for everyone else on the platform. Period. That’s the issue with the movie subreddit; northerncrane4, with that absolutely unacceptable way of communicating with users, is a terrible example for others. Yeah, even for me—we're all human, and I've got my own share of sins.

Because he was just cranking out threads without any kind of schedule, logic, or actual point... honestly, I was one of the first people to call him out on it. Harper ended up getting banned, so that whole mess is officially handled. On the flip side, though, all that mobbing you guys were doing—it was happening before, during, and even after everything went down. I know because I was right there warning everyone that enough was enough, and some people actually got tossed for their behavior. Harper isn't doing that stuff anymore either; there was a period where he used to flood the place with his own topics, but even that died down. He hasn't started a thread in ages, and when he finally does... at least it actually makes sense...

Christian Taylor3 said:https://www.google.com/#sclient=psy-a...w=1883&bih=898

You just got caught in a lie (the kind you seem to be throwing around quite generously here); don't tell me you didn't just Google "not safe for fucking."

And there was also a disclaimer next to that NSFW tag in English, saying "under 18..."

I'll say it again: the ban was overturned because the rules regarding "adult" content on Reddit were undefined or simply non-existent. Constantly bringing up that ban doesn't change anything. It’s zero argument. Everything was laid out in the opening post of this thread.

How is anyone supposed to believe that 80% figure when you're lying constantly? 🤷

We aren't going to talk like that.

As for the post being quoted, I don't see the issue. We can break my sentence down into simple facts. Did you lie when you claimed to have a clean record of cardboard teeth? Yes. Did you repeat that same lie twice (once in the banned section and again in the appeals book)? Yes. So we aren't looking at an acute issue here, but a chronic one.

Stop ignoring this and accusing me of pathological lying, especially when you're the one who moderates the movie you moderate every other year. I don't recall your moderator interventions over there, and I have a photographic memory. You only show up in the "complaints and suggestions" book when things get heated. I pointed out the exact same thing regarding The Dude (for months or years, Smoogja was the only one moderating the PDF for that movie).

A colleague already laid this out in their previous post.

I’ve made my point too. Baseless accusations of fascism fly by without even getting a single cardboard teeth, whereas repeating a quote gets punished solely because it forces moderators to ban people. That's just the reality of it; you can see the links in the post above.

Right now you’re sitting at 20 warnings, and before this latest mess, you had 17. How far is that from the 10 or so warnings you were bragging about in your first post? Are we lying again?

Btw,

This actually supports my argument. If I claim you were being disciplined for stuff like that, and you're clearly covered in warnings, how exactly does that debunk me?

I honestly can't believe you're calling me a liar over a handful of warnings. If every user here, with three years of tenure and over 8k posts, managed to rack up only 20 warnings without anyone ever getting banned, this place—along with KZB—wouldn't even exist.

It absolutely debunks you; if I was supposedly just harassing, bullying, mistreating, and mobbing users—which is a total lie, since I only "snapped" at trolls who were immediately kicked off the subreddit—then that falls entirely on your shoulders as the moderator for the movie you moderate. How could I have gotten away with all that without any sanctions, even during the ZgSash era? Care to explain that? And who exactly is responsible for that?

I haven't forgotten. Just as I haven't forgotten the mobbing you pulled every time you felt the crowd turning against you.

First, explain why you guys decisively banned Harper from opening new threads on the movie subreddit; after that, I'll give you an elaborate breakdown proving he still does all those exact things that got him banned in the first place.

That was taken out of context and is part of an attempt to troll. Actually, in the spirit of the new moderation direction, it handles a potential troll without needing any warnings or deleting posts.

Something anyone can easily verify just by clicking the link.

Nothing was taken out of context; it was a blatant insult to the user northerncrane4 is referring to. That user just happens to be from Miami, just like hundreds of other users. Why wasn't that given a warning if it was trolling?

Moderators are supposed to set the example for everyone else on the platform. Period. That’s the issue with the movie subreddit; northerncrane4, with that absolutely unacceptable way of communicating with users, is a terrible example for others. Yeah, even for me—we're all human, and I've got my own share of sins.

From what I can tell, you’re the only one around here constantly whining about northerncrane4. But look, once you started using the plural and claiming this is some widespread issue with the PDF—well, I'm gonna have to ask you to actually explain yourself... like, in what way exactly are the three of us making anyone's communication harder? Also, that call to the rest of the users on Reddit goes for this option too—I'd love to hear people chime in personally and say just how much of a problem we really are...

Jerry Rogers6 said:this is just a flat-out lie.

🙂

I can only recall a few of those beaver's interventions from the last couple of months... and there were definitely way more than that, considering I follow maybe two or three specific threads regularly.

I’m on this movie site daily, several times a day, and I see him moderating the least out of anyone. I mention this because he’s currently sitting there trying to lecture people and pulling his usual bullshit. His ban was lifted, so let's just go ahead and give him hell ourselves. Exactly. He won't get away with this.

northerncrane4, as much of an absolute jerk and difficult character as he can be sometimes, is a genuine blessing to this movie site, and if anyone hasn't learned how to deal with his style by now, I honestly think they should probably find some other virtual spaces to satisfy their needs.

Completely unrelated to you, that second part is a literal quote from ZgSash, followed by "go screw yourself in advance." Those days are over; we all know how that ended. With the new administration, that kind of toxicity stopped, everyone adapted to the new direction of Reddit, everyone except northerncrane4. This whole thing where he acts like a tough guy when communicating with users has to stop. Right now. Yeah, even though I'm just your average user here without any authority, I feel I have every right to say it. Despite everything, I'll even give him a compliment, believe it or not—on the General Discussion board: http://www.reddit.com/showpost.php?p=40038604&postcount=9

you're the one, Christian Taylor3, who keeps insisting you're in your own backyard and can do whatever you want, which personally bothers me the most. I've told you publicly before that you act like a busybody for everyone, and frankly, it doesn't suit you at all.

I am in my own backyard just like every other user on Reddit. Since day one, I've been saying that we all work together to maintain this place. Take the internal search tool that never worked—not a single mod thought to urgently ask the admins to implement a custom Google script for better searching. Why? Because existing threads were popping up like mushrooms; every day, several movie topics were being deleted or merged.

http://www.reddit.com/showthread.php?t=676985

It got fixed, even under the old administration (everyone loves to paint ZgSash as the ultimate villain these days, but we should be honest and admit the man had plenty of virtues too). There are dozens of interventions like mine, specifically aimed at improving this place.

I get that it drives people crazy. You try to show someone how to finally use the custom search (it's right in front of them, on every page), and instead of a thank you, you get nothing but lip: "Who do you think you are, lecturing me?"; "Are you a moderator or something?" and all that nonsense.

We can actually prove it right now, since you're already here. Look, as just another regular guy on the movie subreddit, it really gets under my skin when someone spends one month posting as little sunshine, then the next as lucca, then the third as Rilke, and the fourth as Jerry Rogers6... And since you’ve used all those handles to post in the movie section too—which isn't a crime in itself—the part that’s actually annoying is using multiple clones to swarm the exact same threads, specifically the film music topic. You just don't do that. I always try to flag it, and here’s how I did it quite politely: But now you're just getting worked up because it suits you, even though there’s really no excuse for it.

So, there it is—my famous habit of sticking my nose into everything. And honestly, who’s going to stop me? Especially when it usually results (as it always does) in something good. Nobody. Someone might even say thanks, but there's no need; I'm a pretty modest guy. 😁

If I were the moderator over there, I would have wiped that entire chat clean and warned you to stop doing it.
briskhound2 had a different take on it, and I don't think he was all that far off.

There were never any issues in the movie chat before, and this whole thing with the photos at the end definitely wasn't handled well. It doesn't even matter whether it's technically allowed or not; those things just don't belong in the movie chat. I have no problem apologizing, and I sincerely apologize if those photos hurt anyone's feelings, including yours. However, I still maintain that the punishment for it was completely out of line and way too harsh.

By the way, on those two movie chats, we became this huge community of cinephiles, debating great films and defending or cursing out Polanski. We aren't going to let those two photos and some blatant racism ruin our friendship (and for what it's worth, I totally support the mods in their reaction). 🙂

Just to refresh your memory, these were your reactions when the first movie thread was opened on the PDF: Back then, I was some rare, endemic species to you, and today I'm the resident "bad girl"... Play it, Sam... Play 'As Time Goes By'' 😢

P.S. What a load of crap this thread is, I can't believe it. 🙄

I agree, the situation with adult content on Reddit (especially with the double standards) is a total mess. If they actually fix it, we might finally have some decent admins. 👍

@quietdriver3, briskhound2

Gentlemen, we are on US soil now. Please provide links for every single claim or accusation. Thank you. 😁

Hey man... my buddies at the job are honestly rooting for you, can you believe that? 🙂

That's exactly the point here.
I don't fucking get why you're making such a big deal out of me posting under a different handle, and what specifically is the issue
and why does any of this actually matter on any level? :confused:

Some people, after a certain amount of time passes, just grab a new username and start posting again.
It's a huge fucking deal, apparently. 🤷
They aren't abusing anything, they aren't scamming anyone—they remain exactly who they were, identical, just under a new name.
There are countless examples of this.

And if there were actually some massive problem regarding my famous rotating nicknames that people love to nitpick, I highly doubt I'd even be allowed to post now—just imagine, for crying out loud—under my fourth nickname. 😲 😲 I mean, how would I even dare, dammit? 😲🤣

Everyone fucking knows it's me, and I even give the mods a heads-up whenever I switch to a new handle.

And you're still slightly lying about how long I've been using those same names.

You'd be dead if you weren't, wouldn't you? 😁

...

But you are, yeah.
To everyone else, you were incredibly helpful, and we all collectively gained a lot of insight thanks to you.

And I told you that—I said it publicly, too.

But then there’s the other side of the story that I mentioned in my previous post, which is why everything ended up leaving a pretty bitter taste in the mouths of some of us.

Get a grip on reality, for God's sake, and try being creative. 🤷

Jerry Rogers6 said:Hey man... my buddies at the job are honestly rooting for you, can you believe that? 🙂

That's exactly the point here.
I don't fucking get why you're making such a big deal out of me posting under a different handle, and what specifically is the issue
and why does any of this actually matter on any level? 😕

Some people, after a certain amount of time passes, just grab a new username and start posting again.
It's a huge fucking deal, apparently. 🤷
They aren't abusing anything, they aren't scamming anyone—they remain exactly who they were, identical, just under a new name.
There are countless examples of this.

And if there were actually some massive problem regarding my famous rotating nicknames that people love to nitpick, I highly doubt I'd even be allowed to post now—just imagine, for crying out loud—under my fourth nickname. 😲 😲 I mean, how would I even dare, dammit? 😲🤣

Everyone fucking knows it's me, and I even give the mods a heads-up whenever I switch to a new handle.

And you're still slightly lying about how long I've been using those same names.

You'd be dead if you weren't, wouldn't you? 😁

...

But you are, yeah.
To everyone else, you were incredibly helpful, and we all collectively gained a lot of insight thanks to you.

And I told you that—I said it publicly, too.

But then there’s the other side of the story that I mentioned in my previous post, which is why everything ended up leaving a pretty bitter taste in the mouths of some of us.

Get a grip on reality, for God's sake, and try being creative. 🤷

So, there you have it. Those are the reactions. 😁

So, let me get this straight—the mods over at the movie subreddit actually know that you’re posting on the "Film Music" board using two different handles almost simultaneously? And on top of that... Registration In which post does the user dalal mention Rilke? You're answering as Jerry Rogers6. Beautiful.

Look, you just don't do that; it's strictly against the rules.

And you’re kind of stretching the truth again regarding how long you’ve actually been using those same handles.

You’d probably drop dead if you weren't around, wouldn't you? 😁

Honestly, this constant "lying" talk is getting exhausting. We live in a country where the biggest liars basically run our lives—and we’re the ones who vote them in, too—while the actual thieves are treated like freaking heroes by most of the population. So, really, you're trying to lecture me about lying? I’m just some anonymous guy on Reddit. You can keep dragging out this whole argument that I’m some kind of pathological liar just because my math is off by a few digits. In the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. 😁

...

Yeah, I am.
Honestly, you’ve been incredibly helpful to everyone here, and I think we all walked away with a ton of great info thanks to you.

And that’s exactly what I told you—it’s all happening right out in the open.

Thanks, dear. I appreciate it.

Then again, there’s that other side of the story I touched on in my last post, which is really why the whole situation ended up leaving such a bitter taste in the mouths of some of us.

get a grip on people, for God's sake, try being creative 🤷

There’s always another side to the story, even when it comes to someone like Mother Teresa, or any of us, really. I’m not here because of "certain people," and honestly, do you actually believe there’s a place out there where everyone is going to love you? Like Reddit? 😁 Besides, I was born creative; it's basically my entire life, both personally and professionally.

p.s. since you're going on and on about praising northerncrane4, I just couldn't help myself:

NOTE: Inappropriate language, not for anyone under 16

and you, northerncrane4, seriously, just back the hell off already and go find someone else to take your frustrations out on

you're becoming fucking hilarious :milkShake:

my only issue with this Reddit is the moderator in question, and frankly, I've had enough of it

http://www.reddit.com/showthread.php?t=569500

😬

p.p.s. I'm appealing to you guys not to lock this thread; let's not get into insults (based solely on the explicit language used).

I’m not pulling double duty here—I switched over to Jerry Rogers6 on the soccer thread that day just for the hell of it.
Since then, I’ve been posting solely under this handle.

Seriously, quit making a fool of yourself already; at this point, it’s honestly bordering on pathological.😁

over & out

Christian Taylor3 said:I’m on this movie site daily, several times a day, and I see him moderating the least out of anyone. I mention this because he’s currently sitting there trying to lecture people and pulling his usual bullshit. His ban was lifted, so let's just go ahead and give him hell ourselves. Exactly. He won't get away with this.

northerncrane4, as much of an absolute jerk and difficult character as he can be sometimes, is a genuine blessing to this movie site, and if anyone hasn't learned how to deal with his style by now, I honestly think they should probably find some other virtual spaces to satisfy their needs.

Completely unrelated to you, that second part is a literal quote from ZgSash, followed by "go screw yourself in advance." Those days are over; we all know how that ended. With the new administration, that kind of toxicity stopped, everyone adapted to the new direction of Reddit, everyone except northerncrane4. This whole thing where he acts like a tough guy when communicating with users has to stop. Right now. Yeah, even though I'm just your average user here without any authority, I feel I have every right to say it. Despite everything, I'll even give him a compliment, believe it or not—on the General Discussion board: http://www.reddit.com/showpost.php?p=40038604&postcount=9

you're the one, Christian Taylor3, who keeps insisting you're in your own backyard and can do whatever you want, which personally bothers me the most. I've told you publicly before that you act like a busybody for everyone, and frankly, it doesn't suit you at all.

I am in my own backyard just like every other user on Reddit. Since day one, I've been saying that we all work together to maintain this place. Take the internal search tool that never worked—not a single mod thought to urgently ask the admins to implement a custom Google script for better searching. Why? Because existing threads were popping up like mushrooms; every day, several movie topics were being deleted or merged.

http://www.reddit.com/showthread.php?t=676985

It got fixed, even under the old administration (everyone loves to paint ZgSash as the ultimate villain these days, but we should be honest and admit the man had plenty of virtues too). There are dozens of interventions like mine, specifically aimed at improving this place.

I get that it drives people crazy. You try to show someone how to finally use the custom search (it's right in front of them, on every page), and instead of a thank you, you get nothing but lip: "Who do you think you are, lecturing me?"; "Are you a moderator or something?" and all that nonsense.

We can actually prove it right now, since you're already here. Look, as just another regular guy on the movie subreddit, it really gets under my skin when someone spends one month posting as little sunshine, then the next as lucca, then the third as Rilke, and the fourth as Jerry Rogers6... And since you’ve used all those handles to post in the movie section too—which isn't a crime in itself—the part that’s actually annoying is using multiple clones to swarm the exact same threads, specifically the film music topic. You just don't do that. I always try to flag it, and here’s how I did it quite politely: But now you're just getting worked up because it suits you, even though there’s really no excuse for it.

So, there it is—my famous habit of sticking my nose into everything. And honestly, who’s going to stop me? Especially when it usually results (as it always does) in something good. Nobody. Someone might even say thanks, but there's no need; I'm a pretty modest guy. 😁

If I were the moderator over there, I would have wiped that entire chat clean and warned you to stop doing it.
briskhound2 had a different take on it, and I don't think he was all that far off.

There were never any issues in the movie chat before, and this whole thing with the photos at the end definitely wasn't handled well. It doesn't even matter whether it's technically allowed or not; those things just don't belong in the movie chat. I have no problem apologizing, and I sincerely apologize if those photos hurt anyone's feelings, including yours. However, I still maintain that the punishment for it was completely out of line and way too harsh.

By the way, on those two movie chats, we became this huge community of cinephiles, debating great films and defending or cursing out Polanski. We aren't going to let those two photos and some blatant racism ruin our friendship (and for what it's worth, I totally support the mods in their reaction). 🙂

Just to refresh your memory, these were your reactions when the first movie thread was opened on the PDF: Back then, I was some rare, endemic species to you, and today I'm the resident "bad girl"... Play it, Sam... Play 'As Time Goes By'' 😢

P.S. What a load of crap this thread is, I can't believe it. 🙄

I agree, the situation with adult content on Reddit (especially with the double standards) is a total mess. If they actually fix it, we might finally have some decent admins. 👍

@quietdriver3, briskhound2

Gentlemen, we are on US soil now. Please provide links for every single claim or accusation. Thank you. 😁

Wait... what claims are we even talking about?

You said you’d break down how Harper is still doing the exact same thing today—if I just explained why he got hit with those restrictions in the first place. Well, I did my part and laid it all out... now I'm just sitting here waiting to see what you've got to say.

If you're looking for the receipts on how Harper's been getting messed with, you'll just have to hang tight—I need a bit more breathing room to dig through everything... I'll find those blatant claims where people point the finger at you being the one harassing folks on the message boards—and don't think I'm leaking private DMs, because I'm definitely not doing that—but it's pretty obvious from your post above, what you're constantly nitpicking about stuff that isn't even your business... like how you're out here counting everyone's usernames or, like we saw before on the boards, throwing around all those unverified theories about who's actually a clone of whom...

So, one last thing... how exactly are we supposed to restrict communication within a PDF?

Maybe you were thinking of northerncrane4, but since you used the plural, I guess that makes all three of us equally terrible at communicating... If I recall my own track record correctly, the only two times I’ve actually stepped in were regarding that guy's blatant racism—which honestly drives me up the wall—and one thing for Harper, not counting the usual warnings I drop when topics start veering a little too far off the rails...