Complaint against moderator rezon@tor from the History subforum

Adding this to the complaint: http://www.reddit.com/showpost.php?p=5...&postcount=249

The moderator's conduct is disgraceful.

amberwalker4 said:I ended up getting a card for trolling too... I don't get this drama. Especially considering who started it—users who get away with everything. For instance, let's have bluewalker6 speak up—did they receive any kind of warning, even a yellow one, recently for falsifying USAID historical sources? If not, they should probably read the History section of the rules PDF and pay attention to the part about forgery.

Commenting to Jose Clark2 makes little sense. If there were any justice here, that individual would have been permanently banned long ago, given the amount of damage caused to the History and Social Science PDFs through endless trolling, forging sources and literature, insulting other users, lying, spreading myths, and promoting chauvinistic views, etc.

Sam Green73's cards are justified; in fact, some should have been issued. Lock the thread.

Look at him trying to play commentator.

Jose Clark2 said:I’d also like to add this to the complaint:

The way the moderator is acting is honestly embarrassing.

What exactly happened?

granitefalcon26 said:You clearly haven't spent much time on those foreign forums. To them, Reddit is some bastion of democracy that lets people say whatever they want and push their nationalist agendas. It’s the same story with their history and politics.

I have been on those types of boards before. I know exactly what goes on there. I've never once been banned for having an opposing view, even though I express them frequently. They aren't immune to myth-making.

Sam Green73 said:What exactly?

Your perception is selective. You don't bother applying rules fairly—handing out red cards to everyone else while waiting to flag me for anything at all. I might forgive you, but this isn't worth a ban. Either treat everyone equally or stop using these biased criteria against me. Honestly, you should probably step away from moderating history altogether; you aren't capable of doing it with any sense of integrity.

Some interesting arguments, Jose Clark2... let's take a look at what you actually contributed to this topic, specifically that last post of yours in the discussion—the one that’s been deleted now. Lucky for me, I memorized the whole thing. That post was your response to this and it read:

Just like you.

You didn't answer any of the questions asked. You didn't address the arguments provided. In fact, you said absolutely nothing regarding the actual topic. Instead, you just resorted to ad hominem attacks.

And that is your famous "contribution" to the threads you hang out in. A big, fat nothing. Then, when you get rightfully shut down, you come whining here about some kind of discrimination.

Unbelievable.

amberwalker4 said:Interesting points, Jose Clark2... let's look at your actual contribution to this thread, specifically that last post of yours which has since been deleted—lucky for me, I have a good memory. That post was a response to this and went like this:

You didn't answer any questions, you ignored the arguments presented, and honestly, you said nothing about the topic itself. You just resorted to ad hominem attacks.

That’s your famous "contribution" to the threads you haunt. A whole lot of nothing. And once you get called out for it, you come crawling back here to whine about discrimination.

Typical.

I have never attacked anyone, including you, nor have I used ad hominem tactics. I simply responded to the insult you directed at me. It's bold of you to come here and call me out for that. Besides, what is your goal? You took the moderator's side, didn't you? If that's the case, leave me out of it; we aren't discussing me, we are complaining about the moderator.

Jose Clark2 said:You’re being incredibly selective here. You aren't even trying to be fair—you're handing out red cards to everyone else while just waiting for any tiny excuse to slap one on me. Look, I'll let it slide this once, but this isn't about getting banned. Either treat everyone by the same set of rules, or stop applying these skewed standards just to screw me over. Honestly, you might want to step away from moderating history altogether, because you clearly can't handle it with any sense of integrity.

Today alone, I've actually given you a pass on at least three separate occasions—and if you really want proof, I can pull up all the PMs regarding posts I chose *not* to flag.
To be honest, I don't care whether we hash this out in the Ban corner or right here in the public section of the Unknown forum.

So, go ahead and explain to me exactly why that specific message doesn't warrant a red card.
In other words, why on earth does that post even belong in this thread?

Sam Green73 said:Today I let you off with at least three warnings—literally three red cards. If you’re actually curious, I could send you a private message listing all the posts I haven't flagged yet.
It makes no difference to me whether we argue in the Ban corner or out here in the public section of this Unknown thread.

Now, please explain to me why that specific post doesn't warrant a warning.
Or rather, why that post belongs in this topic at all.

So you spared me three warnings. I wonder how many you've handed out to others, because from where I'm sitting, I was flagged for a post that didn't deserve it. You're stifling the debate. You make people afraid to say anything if they don't align with your views. After all, who knows what you'll label as "trolling" and penalize with 35 points? Meanwhile, the Wikipedia crowd can write whatever they want without being called trolls or getting flagged. Of course. If you applied your standards to them, this whole thread would be a massacre of red cards.

I am stating that you lack objectivity, it is plainly visible, and you aren't fit to moderate history. Furthermore, I have been a member of this community for some time; I have a decent post count, and I won't sit here while someone treats me like an idiot. I won't be bullied, and I will point out any infringement on my rights and file a formal complaint.

Jose Clark2 said:I have never attacked anyone first, including you, nor have I used ad hominem attacks.

That's a lie. I've already documented it right here on Unknown.

Jose Clark2 said:I responded to you because you had every right to insult me.

And you actually think you have the guts to act like you get to decide who has the authority to moderate the History section? You can't even tell the difference between a sharp argument that pokes at someone and an actual ad hominem?

Jose Clark2 said:And then you have the nerve to come here and call me out for it. What's your goal anyway? You took the moderators' side, didn't you? If that's the case, leave me alone. We aren't discussing me here; we are complaining about the moderation.

I wasn't defending anyone. I am just being the voice of reason. Almost everyone involved in that thread got flagged. Nearly everyone. But you and bluewalker6 are the only ones complaining, and you aren't even complaining about the flags—you're basically staging a lynching. You're even demanding that Sam Green73 be removed, yet you have the audacity to talk about equality for all. You contribute nothing to the topic. You're the first one to troll, go off-topic, and break the rules of this forum.

All you're doing is whining and playing the victim. It won't work 🙂.

Jose Clark2 said:You let me slide on three warnings, but I’d love to know how many times you’ve been lenient with everyone else. From what I can tell, I ended up getting flagged for a post that honestly didn't even warrant it.

I still haven't seen an answer to this:

Sam Green73 said:Could you please walk me through why that specific message wasn't grounds for a warning?
In other words, why does that post actually belong in this thread?

amberwalker4 said:That’s a lie, and I’ve already documented it right here on Unknown.

Do you really have the nerve to act like you get to decide who qualifies to moderate the History section? You can't even tell the difference between a sharp critique and an ad hominem attack.

I wasn't defending anyone; I was just being the voice of reason. Almost everyone ended up with warnings on that thread. Nearly everyone involved. But you and bluewalker6 are the only ones complaining—and not about the warnings, but by essentially staging a lynching. You’re actually demanding Sam Green73 be removed while having the audacity to preach about equality. You contribute nothing to the discussion and are always the first one to troll, derail, or break the rules.

Keep whining and playing the victim if you want. It won't work 🙂.

We complained about the warnings too. I am certainly not deciding who can or cannot be a moderator, but based on past experience and what I have personally witnessed, it is my opinion that the current moderator isn't fit for the job. As for the pile-up of warnings on that thread, anyone can see and compare the facts. Regarding your constant accusations of lying and such, I won't bother commenting to avoid falling into ad hominem territory. Though, I suppose that is your specialty.

Jose Clark2 said:We complained about the packaging too.

And those appeals were rightfully denied 👍.

Sam Green73 said:I don't see an answer to this here:

That doesn't warrant a ban. Maybe a warning for being off-topic, but that's pushing it. It certainly isn't worth 35 points or accusations of trolling, nor should everything be censored. Lately, it’s become quite obvious who is actually collecting infractions and who isn't. I've been around this site long enough to know better.

Jose Clark2 said:I've definitely spent time on forums like that before, so I know exactly how they run. Honestly, I never once got banned for having a different opinion, even though I have them all the time. It's definitely not like those places are immune to people making things up.

Sure. Go ahead and post there that Operation Storm was a totally legitimate mission and you'll get a permanent ban instantly. Not to mention how much they love glorifying war criminals.

amberwalker4 said:The appeals were rightfully rejected 👍.

I disagree. No one has provided a coherent explanation yet. Does that bother you? Besides, why comment here? Start your own thread.

granitefalcon26 said:Sure. Go ahead and claim Operation Storm was a legitimate military action if you want an immediate permanent ban. I won't even bother mentioning the glorification of war criminals here.

I'll pass on this one. This isn't the place or the time to be debating stuff from other forums.

Jose Clark2 said:We’ve complained about the bans before, too. Look, I’m definitely not saying I get to decide who can or can't moderate a thread, but based on everything I’ve seen and experienced firsthand, I honestly don't think the current moderator is up for the job. As for the number of bans and how they're being handed out on this thread, anyone can see the pattern and compare the facts. Regarding your little back-and-forth about lies and whatnot—I won't even go there because I don't want to resort to an ad hominem attack, you know? Though, I suppose that's more your specialty.

So, what's the plan now? Does every single user who gets a couple of warnings from you suddenly have the right to demand a new moderator? We might as well just swap places and let some moderators from the other side come over here with their close-knit political circles, since objectively speaking, it seems like American moderators on an American forum are just too much for you guys to handle.

Jose Clark2 said:Anyway, why are you even commenting here?

An outsider might look at this and think you and bluewalker6 are victims of some intense moderator torture happening every single day. I am just pointing out the facts. You aren't the only ones who have been flagged, but you are the only ones complaining about it (which says plenty about you). You aren't innocent either; you actually got off pretty easy with light warnings. Also, the bolded part is important regarding your false accusations about biased moderation and playing favorites with certain users.

Jose Clark2 said:Just start your own thread.

Setting aside your hypocrisy—since you were the one coming to my threads to troll—don't lecture me about post counts when you're pumping out replies like an assembly line. It looks like the multi-quote feature disappeared.

Oh, I just remembered—you think having a high post count means you should be treated like a golden calf in the Bible. That's probably why you obsess over 😬the numbers.

granitefalcon26 said:So what's the plan now? Any user who gets a few warnings can just demand a moderator change. We might as well swap places entirely; let some partisan journalists from over there moderate our site, since apparently, American moderators on an American forum are such a problem for you.

Give me a break. You're talking nonsense. This whole "us versus them" mentality is absurd. It shouldn't even exist in modern history.