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Edward Howard2 said:Schumacher and Senna
Schumacher and Vergne
Schumacher and Ricciardo
Schumacher and di Resta and Schumacher
Schumacher and Hulkenberg

😍

Schumacher vs. Senna
Schumacher vs. Vergne
Schumacher vs. Ricciardo
Schumacher vs. Di Resta
Schumacher vs. Hulkenberg

Whose offer am I even supposed to be answering?
😁

darkmarlin16 said:Since Bjesomar bailed and there’s zero chance of finding a replacement, I’m basically getting this round handed to me on a silver platter ☕

Round 14

Bjesomar - darkmarlin16
Jessica Ramos12 - Terry Carter2
Ferstar - ruggedfox28
Edward Howard2 - stormybadger8

Also, I’m throwing it out there that maybe only the top four should even bother playing the third round (the so-called championship league), because honestly, there's no point in running the whole thing anymore since half the crew quit for reasons we all know too well.

Terry Carter2 😉

Rosberg - Schumacher
Maldonado - Grosjean
Ricciardo - Vergne
Kobayashi - Perez
Massa - Schumacher
😁

ruggedfox28 said:Whose forecast am I even answering to this round? Since darkmarlin16 should've been disqualified way before Belgium, I actually kind of love that I get to play against him this time...

stormybadger8 said:From what I can tell, nobody’s even thinking about answering this...

I'm dying to see how that showdown actually plays out...

And if you're calling the shots as the Manager, then it's high time you make a call regarding those people who supposedly should've been disqualified after CNN Belgium for failing to send three consecutive bids/responses... actually, it's four in a row now... once you decide, just pull in the next reserves on the list.
Same goes for the decision on Bjesomar and the withdrawals. I'm not entirely sure, but I think there are others who haven't sent a bid or response for three or more races straight.
Feel free to call in Max to help explain things and sort out these potential disqualifications and other headaches... he knows this stuff better than anyone, and he's always down to help when it comes to keeping the superleague regular.

Also, it would be nice to get these decisions made so we actually know who's playing who and whose bid is being answered... assuming there's even any intention of finishing this superleague season at all.🤷

stormybadger8 said:That’s actually a solid suggestion regarding lap 3. Honestly, might be the smartest move yet...🙂
It’s probably not even going to happen anyway; there aren't enough players to pull off the original plan.

But hey, Max, care to explain why I was wrong about the Patagonia situation? Apparently, it’s perfectly fine for darkmarlin16 to just keep moving along, even though they haven't sent an offer or a reply in four races straight...

Still nothing? No answer yet...? 🍿

Give the guy an answer 🍿

Edward Howard2 said:Give the guy an answer 🍿

He lost the duel.

Honestly, I wasn't expecting anything else 🙏

stormybadger8 said:Schumacher vs. Senna
Schumacher vs. Vergne
Schumacher vs. Ricciardo
Schumacher vs. Di Resta
Schumacher vs. Hulkenberg

the perfect matchup to widen that points gap ☕

just gotta tally up the difference at the end 😂

Max, care you going to explain this silence? And maybe explain where all that energy went regarding your big crusade for keeping things consistent under the TM rules...

Edward Howard2 said:It would be nice if you'd stop lying and making things up too... ☕

This is Pat's last post containing an entry/prediction
written on March 23, 2012, at 12:08 PM, right before the second race in Malaysia.
The absolute deadline for sending entries for Malaysia was March 24, 2012, at 7:50 AM.
So, there is zero doubt that Pat's last entry was specifically for Malaysia.

And just to make it crystal clear... look at Rosiyev in Canada during the 7th race of the season; they're responding to that exact same entry Pat sent back in Malaysia. This means no other entry was sent, which obviously means your claim about them having an entry for Bahrain is just a total fabrication—all just so you can try to cover up that massive blunder you made.

So, let's recap:
Australia: Pat sends an entry
Malaysia: Pat sends an entry
China: Nothing sent
Bahrain: Nothing sent
Spain: Nothing sent
Monaco: Should have been disqualified, but wasn't
Canada: Should have been disqualified, but wasn't
Europe: Finally disqualified, giving the win to Terry Carter2

That’s a fact, and honestly, it’s probably the biggest oversight by any moderator in the three years this Super League has been running... you directly impacted the results for four different competitors: Terry Carter2, Patagonia, Pangloss, and Rosiyev.

But seriously... where is this Bahrain entry? I've searched through all eight of Pat's posts in this thread and I don't see it anywhere. 🍿

Anything else I need to say? The sheer amount of stupidity in your post is actually impressive. 🤦
What am I supposed to do, let clones or some random kid run the Super League? 🙄
Recruiting players with a "hey, come join us and we'll let you play as a clone" system? 🤦
No, Max, I have absolutely no intention of letting clones compete. Nobody needs moderators like that. ☕

Oh boy... what am I even reading here... 😂
Now you're claiming you didn't let clones play... 😂 but right here you're saying you sent Sheldon several PMs, and over here we can clearly see that Gilbert totally shut you down, not the other way around... 😁
who even told you he wasn't allowed to play? 🍿

just accept the fact that something is seriously off with the Super League
if you ask me, the issue lies with the commissioner and how he runs things
and if you really think everything is fine on your end, then at least change something for the greater good, because some of these rules are just bad—and honestly, given your oversight, you probably don't even realize it...
something definitely needs to change. You can't just keep your eyes closed and keep telling yourself "there are no problems in the Super League," because it's obvious this isn't heading anywhere good... 😉

stormybadger8 said:What am I even supposed to do with you?🤦
Who on earth were you sending that offer to? 🤦
And do you realize the Commissioner should probably disqualify you from the superleague right now?
At least that's what Max claimed... back during that Patagonia situation which is basically a carbon copy of yours.

Basically, there was a response to your last offer submitted on June 23, 2012, before qualifying, specifically for CNN Europe.🤦

After that CNN Europe offer, you have an answer for CNN UK,
but no new offer for CNN Germany,
no answer for CNN Canada,
and no new offer for CNN Belgium...🙂 You haven't responded or sent a new offer for three races in a row. 🙂

I'm done with this nonsense.🤦
I'm officially resigning as Deputy Superleague Commissioner. There is absolutely no way I'm going to disqualify the current superleague leader or even bother debating it.🙂
And I certainly don't have the energy to listen to Max's "wisdom" when he pulls this on me and starts arguing about why the irregular superleague 2012 champion shouldn't count.

As far as I'm concerned, the superleague season is dead to me. I have zero intention of running it or doing anything else regarding this thread.

Sort it out yourselves however you see fit.
@ Terry Carter2, please keep an eye on this discussion and ban or delete any insults, trolling, or whatever else happens here.🤦

meanwhile, in the meantime:
there's no offer for Italy News
no response for Singapore News
Which means darkmarlin16 now has five missed offers/responses in a row...

So I'm dying to hear the explanation for this, Edward Howard2...
Why is it suddenly "according to the rules" when someone fails to send an offer/response five races in a row, yet a few months ago, that same situation wasn't considered a violation?

Is this just a blatant example of twisting the rules and explanations whenever it suits someone, or is it just me? 🍿
And if this actually follows the rules—which haven't changed in forever, by the way—then why don't you explain to me why you lied when it came to the whole Patagonia situation and those forecasts?

stormybadger8 said:Schumacher vs. Senna
Schumacher vs. Vergne
Schumacher vs. Ricciardo
Schumacher vs. Di Resta
Schumacher vs. Hulkenberg

max - TBF 9-1

Just his usual routine of absolutely wrecking everyone ☕

stormybadger8 said:Max, care you going to explain this silence? And maybe explain where all that energy went regarding your big crusade for keeping things consistent under the TM rules...

meanwhile, in the meantime:
there's no offer for Italy News
no response for Singapore News
Which means darkmarlin16 now has five missed offers/responses in a row...

So I'm dying to hear the explanation for this, Edward Howard2...
Why is it suddenly "according to the rules" when someone fails to send an offer/response five races in a row, yet a few months ago, that same situation wasn't considered a violation?

Is this just a blatant example of twisting the rules and explanations whenever it suits someone, or is it just me? 🍿
And if this actually follows the rules—which haven't changed in forever, by the way—then why don't you explain to me why you lied when it came to the whole Patagonia situation and those forecasts?

So, why on earth should I be answering your questions when you're just gonna ignore me and leave me hanging? It's a bit of a one-way street, isn't it? Just a few questions from me.?

I mean, honestly, why should I have to explain myself to you—or anyone else, for that matter? If I actually go out of my way to call someone up just to get an explanation from them, that’s my business. No need to overthink it. (between you and me), I'm not gonna explain myself.?

Edward Howard2 said:So, why on earth should I be answering your questions when you're just gonna ignore me and leave me hanging? It's a bit of a one-way street, isn't it? Just a few questions from me.?

I mean, honestly, why should I have to explain myself to you—or anyone else, for that matter? If I actually go out of my way to call someone up just to get an explanation from them, that’s my business. No need to overthink it. (between you and me), I'm not gonna explain myself.?

What exactly are you looking for there? The guy in question didn't even apply for the moderator role, so there's nothing for me to do about it right now.
Trust me, if it comes to that, I'll handle it.☕

Edward Howard2 said:So, why on earth should I be answering your questions when you're just gonna ignore me and leave me hanging? It's a bit of a one-way street, isn't it? Just a few questions from me.?

I mean, honestly, why should I have to explain myself to you—or anyone else, for that matter? If I actually go out of my way to call someone up just to get an explanation from them, that’s my business. No need to overthink it. (between you and me), I'm not gonna explain myself.?

What am I supposed to be explaining here?🤷 The decision maker makes a call. Two modes are tied for that decision, and even if I personally hate it, by the rules, it’s a legitimate decision because of the majority vote.
Personally, I don't see anything in the rulebook regarding those statements about withdrawals, so I don't see any real reason—let alone any basis—to complain about it.

It's funny how you felt such a massive urge to attack me and trash my work in the Super League, but now that darkmarlin16—the guy you actually suggested for moderator—is in the exact same spot, his decisions are perfectly fine by you, even though they completely ignore the rules...
🙄 And the fact that this whole thing produces zero results? Totally fine with you too, apparently...

Honestly, I don't see a single reason to keep this Super League going at all.
Because the Round 3 matchups literally don't exist. Nobody has a clue who's in Round 3, who's still an active participant, who has how many points, who's been disqualified, who's playing whom next, etc. It's a mess.
If all the results and disqualification rulings aren't posted before the next race, I don't see what else can be done besides closing this thread and killing the Super League for the season.

And why is TBF even posting in this thread when he already quit the competition and handed in his resignation as the decision maker?!?!! At this point, he’s got absolutely nothing to contribute here and any little comment he makes is just straight-up trolling.

The third round is going to be played out. The top four are moving up to the so-called championship league (which is exactly what I suggested before this season kicked off, but apparently SOMEONE "higher up" was totally against it).

Points will carry over ☕

It's a real shame that the terrible management of the Super League is going to overshadow my total dominance 🙂

Since you’ve already appointed yourself the decision maker, why don't you go ahead and post the results?
Who even are the top four? Who was actually racing against whom over the last few rounds???

I’ll let your wise-guy commentary slide this time since I don't want to deal with the headache of banning you if I hand out a warning, but do it again and you're looking at a card—and a ban right after.

stormybadger8 said:What exactly are you looking for there? The guy in question didn't even apply for the moderator role, so there's nothing for me to do about it right now.
Trust me, if it comes to that, I'll handle it.☕

What am I supposed to be explaining here?🤷 The decision maker makes a call. Two modes are tied for that decision, and even if I personally hate it, by the rules, it’s a legitimate decision because of the majority vote.
Personally, I don't see anything in the rulebook regarding those statements about withdrawals, so I don't see any real reason—let alone any basis—to complain about it.

It's funny how you felt such a massive urge to attack me and trash my work in the Super League, but now that darkmarlin16—the guy you actually suggested for moderator—is in the exact same spot, his decisions are perfectly fine by you, even though they completely ignore the rules...
🙄 And the fact that this whole thing produces zero results? Totally fine with you too, apparently...

Honestly, I don't see a single reason to keep this Super League going at all.
Because the Round 3 matchups literally don't exist. Nobody has a clue who's in Round 3, who's still an active participant, who has how many points, who's been disqualified, who's playing whom next, etc. It's a mess.
If all the results and disqualification rulings aren't posted before the next race, I don't see what else can be done besides closing this thread and killing the Super League for the season.

I really wish someone on this thread would actually give me a straight answer to my question. What happens if it turns out asdfg5 is just a clone of one of the registered candidates? Saying "we'll take action" doesn't tell me anything. Seriously, what kind of action? Are you guys just going to give him a verbal warning so you don't lose your decision maker right in the middle of the season?

What would I even need to explain about that?🤷
Look, once the decision maker makes a call, that’s it. Even if two mods are backing the move and I’m sitting here totally against it, the ruling still stands. According to the rules, it's all about the majority vote, so the decision is officially legit.
Personally, I don't see anything wrong with those statements about withdrawing from races according to the rules, so I really don't see any major reason—let alone a solid basis—to be complaining about it.

Look, this isn't actually an explanation. You're just circling back to the same point: that the decision maker and the mods can basically do whatever they want, regardless of whether there’s any actual logic behind it. Just because the decision maker made a call and the mods gave it the thumbs up doesn't automatically make it legitimate.
So, here’s a totally ridiculous hypothetical for you: Imagine if Terry Carter2 just decided, on his own whim, to hand himself, TBF, and Sepa an extra 20 unearned points in the overall standings. He’d probably justify it by saying, "Hey, I'm the decision maker, so I can do whatever I want." Naturally, someone would lose their mind and call foul. Then the mods step in—Sepa and TBF show up and basically say they have zero problem with him handing out those 20 points, since nowhere in the rulebook does it explicitly forbid the decision maker from gifting unearned points to himself or anyone else (and honestly, it doesn't). In your eyes, that move would be just as legitimate as this whole mess with Bjesomar. But let's be real: it makes zero sense for Terry Carter2 to just conjure up points that weren't actually won. It’s just as illogical as letting a competitor stay in the race after they've already announced they're quitting.

It’s actually pretty funny to watch. You had this massive urge to come at me and trash my work in the Super League, but look at you now—you're stuck in the exact same spot I was. darkmarlin16, that guy you suggested to be the decision maker... Oh sure, everything he does is just absolutely flawless, right? And those decisions of his that fly way past the rulebook? Totally fine by you, I guess...🙄
So, you're basically saying it doesn't matter if there are zero results either, right? Honestly, that works perfectly fine for me too.

Total lie.
darkmarlin16 is all in for the decision maker. Dorian made the suggestion..
I'm just being me. I was rooting for him..

So you basically handed him a race that was already a complete dumpster fire and a total disaster, and now everyone wants to point the finger at him for the chaos? Seriously? 🤷
You can see he’s actually trying to save the thing: he put forward a solid suggestion on how we can actually finish this super league.
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Honestly, I don't see a single reason left to keep this whole Super League going at all. Because the pairings for round 3 basically don't exist; nobody has a clue who is even in round 3, who is still an active participant in the super league, who has how many points, who's been disqualified, who's playing whom in the next round, and so on. If all the results and disqualification decisions aren't posted before the next race, I don't see what else can be done besides locking this thread and just calling this season's Super League dead.

And anyway... didn't you say "I am irrevocably resigning from my position as deputy decision maker for the super league, there is no way I'm going to disqualify the convincing leader of the super league or even debate it at all."
and
"As far as I'm concerned, the super league is completely over for me this season and I have no intention of running it anymore or doing anything with this thread."

So why start all this up and trigger a debate about darkmarlin16's disqualification when you clearly stated you weren't even going to talk about it? 😁

And why bring up locking things down and shutting the competition if you already made it clear you're done with this topic? 😁

..I was just bringing up the whole disqualification thing regarding darkmarlin16... mostly just curious if they’re actually gonna be consistent with how they apply (and even understand) the rulebook compared to what happened with Patagonia.

I was waiting on your take but never got it.. oh well.... no biggie...

But man, it’s gonna set a crazy precedent for next year if darkmarlin16 ends up winning the super league as someone who technically should've been DQ'd halfway through this season..

That’s basically a recipe for disaster right there, guaranteed to spark endless arguments and drama...

And if I remember correctly, FER should've been replaced ages ago anyway...

stormybadger8 is wondering what the point even is...🤦

It's pretty obvious if you look at how the guy who actually wrote the rulebook interprets them...
based on those rules, maminho should’ve been disqualified two rounds ago☕.
Honestly, I expected him to act like an adult and just loudly announce the correct results.
But not only did he fail to post disqualifications or the actual scores...
he keeps dodging the topic too. He won't call up the substitutes for a few rounds, instead, he's trying to cook the books by making sure the sub he's supposed to face isn't available, so he can basically claim points without even playing the match.🙄

This whole competition has gone completely off the rails. No results, and the matchups for next week are literally unknown.🤦
And the commissioner is busy awarding himself points by intentionally ignoring the subs—all while he should've been disqualified according to his own damn rulebook.
Whenever anyone asks about the scores or anything else, he just drifts off-topic and plays dumb.

And yeah, my bad. I should have just disqualified the kid instead of expecting him to actually be honest.
I shouldn't have expected honesty from you either. By ignoring all of this, you've made it crystal clear how little you care about keeping this thing fair.🙄
Your only goal is clearly to mess with people. There's no other way to interpret it when you act completely opposite in two identical situations.
One minute you're a hardcore rule follower, the next you ignore everything and stay "wisely" silent.👎
When it comes to ignoring the fact that subs exist, or the attempts to cheat points that way, you just stay quiet and pretend you don't care.🙄
I should have banned you for trolling ages ago because it's obvious now: you just want to screw with the leagues, not run them properly.
So, I definitely won't make that mistake again.😳

As for everything else, there are specific threads for that. Just so we're clear, any discussion on this thread that isn't about the Super Bowl will result in a ban and a deletion..☕