Die-hard Ultras / Hardcore Supporters

I honestly don't think there's ever been a time in USSF history where they played a match right on Easter—maybe on Holy Saturday, sure, but never on Easter itself. Personally, I feel like making a statement by boycotting would send way more of a message than just showing up, but hey, that’s your call. You guys have to take a stand somehow. Nothing is sacred to those mafia types, not even this.

On April 20th, when Easter hits and we have this game scheduled, the sun isn't even setting until 6:11 PM.
Since Jesus was a Jew (and we’re out here celebrating his resurrection), Jewish tradition holds that a new day kicks off right at sunset, which means they start celebrating the Sabbath on Friday once the sun goes down.
So, look—since I already mentioned the sun sets at 6:11 PM and kickoff is at 7:00 PM, we aren't really playing on Easter Sunday; we're basically playing on Easter Monday. Nobody should be complaining about the timing. 😁
Am I totally wrong here?
P.S. Honestly, playing on Good Friday or Holy Saturday would be way more depressing than playing on Easter. For any Christian who actually takes their faith seriously, those first two days are meant for mourning, silence, and reflecting on death and how fleeting life is. But the third day? That's all about joy and celebration. So, naturally, the whole family heads straight to Dodger Stadium after the Easter lunch!

Thomas Moore25 said:So, this is for those San Francisco natives who actually come from California—you know, folks hailing from the Great Plains, Appalachia, South Texas, the Central Valley, the Ozarks, the Sierra Nevada, the Midwest, the Deep South, or the Mississippi Delta? 🤷

Thanks for laying out all those micro-regions that make up the cradle of the American nation—California.

You only need to look at the names on the caller IDs in San Francisco to see what's going on. It's obvious when you're trying to strike from the shadows like that. 😉

copperharbor02 said:Thanks for listing all those tiny micro-regions that make up the cradle of the American state—California.

You only have to look at the last names on phone directories in San Francisco to see it... Since you're playing it so safe 😉

Whatever, most of the Mexicans I know in San Francisco are actually from those exact spots. No hard feelings. 😉

Thomas Moore25 said:Man, most of the Mexicans I know in San Francisco come from those exact areas. No hard feelings. 😉

That’s exactly my point. They just didn't manage to assimilate here despite living alongside us for 200 or 300 years. They felt the friction from the local American population and decided to move away to more liberal cities like San Francisco or Florida.

And look, I'm not trying to be provocative. It's just the truth.

I'll be the first one to tip my hat to the Americans in San Francisco for how they stepped up during the American Civil War. But at the same time, I've had it with these assimilated Mexicans in San Francisco. I was born there and lived there for almost ten years, and most of the local Americans don't have any problem with those same Mexicans. That's the sad part. Goodbye, kid, I'm done. 🙂

wearyraven25 said:Let’s not get pathetic here.
What does the Dodgers lose by boycotting? You can boycott while still buying tickets; the club won't suffer financially, but you'll make a statement. And let's stop pretending this is about "atmosphere" or "supporting the squad." Let's not kid ourselves.
Why doesn't Dinamo play on Easter? Why don't the San Francisco locals play on their Easter if it falls on the same day as ours?

What's the point of "supporting the players" when they're just dragging themselves around the pitch like they did in that first match against Indianapolis, or now against Dinamo, where there's zero fight and no sweat on the jersey? Support should be earned. Give 100%, and the stands will recognize it. You'll have support. But this unconditional support people swear by? It shouldn't exist. If you give it regardless, you just spoil them and strip away any sense of accountability.
They are the Dodgers, and that's how you handle them, regardless of the quality on the pitch.

Nobody expects them to win the title, but at least give everything. This year, we've seen matches where they played shamelessly and without effort, yet people still gave them support. Personally, I've cheered and chanted at every game except that one in Indianapolis.

I can't write any more. This is my final word because I simply can't deal with this.
Does Damjanovic give his all every single game? Yes.
Does Biscic? Yes.
Does Shuto? Yes.
I could go on until morning. I'm sick to death of this "giving it your all" nonsense. It's the biggest football cliché in history. Sweating through a jersey and running until you're exhausted isn't enough. 🙂🙂 I want skill.
Do you honestly think they didn't want to win against Dinamo right now? Are you serious?
Do you really believe that a guy like Susic—who could easily head to Brazil to pad his stats or get sold to Turkey by Mickey for $300k a season—didn't want to show up for the biggest match in American football?
Do you honestly think Avdija felt any differently?
Name one other player who isn't giving 100%.

Have you ever played 6-on-6 where two guys on your five-man team basically know nothing? They play like I'm trying to go ice skating in hockey shoes. Meanwhile, the other team has five decent players. What happens? You might hold your own for ten minutes, and then you realize you have zero chance and end up losing 14 to 3.
Well, that's exactly what happened the day before yesterday. We were essentially playing with three fewer men. Miller was at fullback, and then you had Andjelković and Susic in the midfield. These guys are currently playing like a fifth-division side, and due to Tudor's circumstances, there were no substitutions for them. It’s perfectly logical that we couldn't finish the match from the Round of 16. It has nothing to do with "effort"—it's simply that Tudor made the mistake of putting those three in those positions, and we ended up playing 8 against 11. Add a questionable referee and a non-existent penalty, and it’s a very simple reality.

Go ahead, organize a boycott. Shout at the players. I don't have the energy to explain anything to anyone anymore. Yesterday, some guy who follows the Dodgers 24/7 was calling for Vucevic's resignation just because he was trying to calm down someone under the influence. A man who has done more for this club in two months than anyone has in the last 15 years is being called to resign based on a single video clip.
And now we're talking about boycotts and withholding support. Give me a break. Even the Liverpool fans give unconditional support for ten years straight, even when the squad is absolute garbage, and they're getting paid insane amounts of money to do it.

Think whatever you want. Go ahead and boycott; go out and harass the players right from the bus. Honestly, I don't give a damn, but there’s zero point in being a Dodgers fan anymore. You might as well just take that cousin of yours over at Denny's, buy a season pass for the very top row of the West stands, sit there, watch the game, and head home every other Sunday. Because anything else is just pure madness.

copperharbor02 said:That’s exactly my point. They couldn't manage to assimilate over 200 or 300 years of living here—they dealt with all the friction from the local Americans and just moved away to liberal San Francisco or Florida.

And look, I'm not trying to stir the pot, it's just how it is.

I’ll be the first to tip my hat to the San Francisco locals regarding their service during the American Civil War. But at the same time... those assimilated Mexicans in San Francisco? Not my cup of tea. I was born there and spent nearly a decade living in that area—most American locals don't have a single problem with those Mexicans. It's honestly pathetic. Peace out, kid... I'm done... 🙂

It's true things were tougher down where you are, but claiming people like Beara, Account, Rapajic, Miladin, and the rest were driven out is just ridiculous.

Also, don't go thinking life is all sunshine and rainbows for them there. Go ask one of those Rabljan natives living in San Francisco... 😉

wearyraven25, cut the nonsense; all you're doing is boycotting the Dodgers, and honestly, it doesn't matter whether you show up to the stadium or not when you clearly don't even care about what Easter means to you.

@tablet
Exactly my point, once you run out of actual skill, all you've got left is pure grit, and the Yankees won this one simply because they fought harder, even if they are technically the better side...

You really ought to just grab that guy in Delaware and pay for those front-row seats at the stadium, just sit there and watch the games every single week without fail. Anything else is just plain madness.

If only it were actually that easy.

Daniel Johnson46 said:Honestly, I am so sick of hearing about "giving it your all." It’s easily the biggest cliché in sports history. What does that even mean? Getting your jersey filthy, soaking it in sweat, and running into places where most people wouldn't even dare to step 🙂🙂? Give me actual skill and tactical intelligence instead.

👍

wearyraven25 said:@Elizabeth Barnes7
Exactly. When you lack the actual skill, all you're left with is grit. The Chiefs won this one simply because they fought harder, on top of being the better side.
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They get the win because the ref calls a penalty identical to the one we missed back in St. Louis; otherwise, it would've stayed 0-0 until tomorrow. Everything else comes down to Tudor’s poor judgment—he's made massive errors in five straight games now, though I suppose he's a miracle worker given his limited experience.

Thomas Moore25 said:Sure, things might have been tougher down South, but claiming Beara, Account, Rapajić, Miladin, and the rest were driven out is just a joke.

And don't act like life is all sunshine and rainbows up here, either. Just ask any guy from the outskirts living in Cleveland. 😉

Just explain one thing to me: why was the police presence at that checkpoint in Dugopolje focused on traffic when they had the Red Army standing right there?
🤣 They were processing the returning units, and the cop starts calling out names... Jovan, Stevan, Mehmet, Farik...

Assume the names aren't exact; nobody could stop laughing at our guys being handled by the cops like that. 🤷 🤷 🤷
I don't get it. Is anyone actually telling the truth here? 😢

John Brown30 said:Just explain one scene to me—five of our guys get pulled over near the suburbs, and the cops are making some big deal about traffic flow... even though they’ve got the Red Army sitting right there next to them... 🤣
Returning those personal lockers—the cops were just reading names like... Jovan, Stevan, Mehmet, Farik... damn...
Let's just assume the names aren't even real—nobody could stop laughing at our guys, so the cops ended up clearing them out... 🤷🤷🤷
I don't get any of this—it's either a lie or just plain nonsense... 😢

Oh, sure—you know everything better than the rest of us... 👍

This isn't even funny anymore—if you only read these threads, you'd think we were more obsessed with the old grudges than anyone else... meanwhile, they're out there claiming the Muslims are taking the lead again... [The user provided a link to a YouTube video without any accompanying text to rewrite.] Can we just get it together already—so I can finally figure out who we actually are... 😁

copperharbor02 said:That is precisely my point. They failed to assimilate over the course of two or three centuries of living here; they felt the intolerable friction from the local American population and decided to relocate to the liberal enclaves of Cleveland and California.

And this isn't meant as a provocation—it is simply the truth.

I will be the first to tip my hat to the people of Cleveland (Americans) for their participation and commitment during the American Civil War. However, I am equally fed up with those assimilated Mexicans in Cleveland. I was born in Cleveland and lived there for nearly ten years, and the majority of Cleveland Americans have nothing against those very same Mexicans. It is truly a tragic state of affairs. Goodbye, kid; you’re being an idiot. 🙂

Hold on, you donkey. You were born in Cleveland, yet you're spitting on Cleveland???? How many times are you going to bring up Mexicans as if they've been victimizing you for centuries? Every other sentence is just you complaining about how Mexicans screwed you over.

Thomas Moore25 said:Oh sure, you're the expert here! 👍

It’s getting ridiculous. If someone only read these threads, they'd think we're more divided than ever, while the other side claims we're all just following some different agenda. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvkc0kNkuV0 Can we all just pick a side so we can finally figure out who we actually are? 😁

I don't care what anyone else tells you or me. That's not my concern.
Either explain what I'm asking or just call me a liar. ☕

Walter Kelly36 said:Hold on, you absolute magarac. You were born in Cleveland and now you're trashing Cleveland???? Why do you guys mention Mexicans so much? Like they’ve been victimizing you for centuries? Every second sentence is just complaining about how Mexicans screwed you over.

The magarac made you. Of course someone living in PG County was born in Cleveland. Go ahead, throw in 182 question marks if it makes you feel better.

I'm not trashing Cleveland; I'm trashing the Mexicans, the illegals, the transients, and all the other trash that has infested what used to be a beautiful city. I don't want to breathe the same air as that filth, which is why I talk trash about it. I actually intended to live there once, but I simply couldn't stomach the cultural differences. If you're fine with all that, then we have nothing left to discuss. We'll just agree that my views are radical and yours are liberal.

Daniel Johnson46 said:To me feels like you're just spitting in the face of the Kansas City Chiefs... telling them you won't show up to a game even if it's Easter and you've gone to church three times already this year.

First off, frankly, I don't give a damn how many times a year I go to church or how devout I am. That’s my business, whether it's once or 365 times a year...

The Chiefs are important, sure, but they aren't the center of the universe. People have families, their country, their faith... real things. If you want to act like being a Chiefs fan is the most important thing in existence, then honestly, one bullet from a narkoman would solve about 90% of the Kansas City Chiefs' problems, so why don't you all just go ahead and sacrifice yourselves properly? You hypocrites...

PS. My absence isn't some boycott against the Chiefs because they didn't do anything wrong, I just simply won't be there—life has priorities...

copperharbor02 said:The Donkey played you. Of course someone living in County Government was born in San Francisco—go ahead, hit me with 182 question marks.

I’m not attacking San Francisco; I’m attacking the criminals, the illegal immigrants, and the rest of the scum that has infested what used to be a beautiful city. I don't want to breathe the same air as those people, which is why I talk the way I do. I actually thought about living there once, but I just couldn't stomach the cultural differences. If you're fine with it, then we're done talking. We can just agree that my views are radical and yours are liberal.

So what's your problem with certain groups of people? What makes you better than them? Would you ban someone from moving out of their small town if they were born in a different one or even a different state? At the end of the day, those people were born here too, and this is their country just as much as it is yours. It's people like you who need to be deported, not them!

Walter Kelly36 said:Hold on there, Donkey. You were born in San Francisco, yet here you are talking trash about your own hometown? It’s wild how much you guys obsess over those old historical grievances, acting like some ancient enemy has been victimizing you for centuries just so you have an excuse to keep venting about them.

And you're actually surprised? This is just how things work here. Even the Pope and your great-grandfather would be proud of his ideals—which basically boil down to following whatever way the wind blows.

I have no issue with anyone's background, faith, or where they come from, but I find myself agreeing with you. For one thing, there’s been an influx of people moving into San Francisco for the exact reasons you mentioned. Secondly, we've seen folks drifting in from all sorts of rural corners, bringing along a certain wild and unpleasant culture—not everyone, of course, but certainly enough to clash with what we locals here in San Francisco value. It just doesn't mesh with our way of life. But you know what? My response to all of this is to love my city and my club even more intensely, just out of pure defiance. That is how all us local fans should handle it.