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Support for families dealing with cancer and other serious illnesses (Part II)

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cosmiclynx14 cosmiclynx14 Newcomer
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#261 ·
wiredbison14 said:Hello everyone. My son (21 years old) was diagnosed with a malignant testicular tumor. He finished chemo, and things look good right now. However, we’ve hit a bit of a crossroads regarding his first follow-up scan. Before the chemo started, he had a CT scan, and now the doctor has ordered another CT. But when we went to schedule it, the technician on duty looked genuinely concerned and advised us to go for an MRI instead—he mentioned that for younger patients, an MRI is actually the standard practice at their facility. After looking into both CT and MRI, my son and I feel much more comfortable with the MRI option since there's no radiation involved and no risk of secondary cancer issues. I’m looking for advice here: can I refuse the CT and opt for the MRI, and in your opinion, which one is the better choice?

Hi everyone.

wiredbison14 maybe the reason they want a CT is because he already had one, so they can accurately track any changes... basically, comparing this scan directly to the previous one. Another thing: we were told how vital it is to use the exact same imaging center as before, because different facilities can produce varying results.
And honestly, if an MRI doesn't involve radiation, just get it done for your own peace of mind alongside the CT if you have to...

edit: It’s not "maybe"—it is definitely the reason, and your doctor will confirm that once you see them. We actually wanted an MRI for our first follow-up along with a PET/CT, but our specialist explained why it didn't make sense. We even tried to push for the MRI, which is incredibly difficult because doctors are very reluctant to write those specific referrals, but eventually, we backed down because the doctor's reasoning was sound.
fadedcrane92 fadedcrane92 Member
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joined Apr 2014
#262 ·
I’ve been following this thread for about a year and a half now—just wanted to offer a bit of encouragement to everyone here and say that there are actually quite a lot of us lurking in the shadows. We mostly just stay quiet because we're keeping an eye on things for our family members, even if we don't jump into the conversation ourselves.
feralsurfer72 feralsurfer72 Member
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joined Feb 2014
#263 ·
Amanda Anderson87 said:Is there any news on your end?

@feralsurfer72/">@@feralsurfer72, how did the MRI go? How is your dad holding up?

My father is finishing his final round of Xeloda tonight, and we have a follow-up appointment next Wednesday to figure out our next steps.

In case it helps anyone else, we’ve been managing his nausea with ginger—basically a mixture of 200 grams of grated ginger and a kilogram of honey, though sometimes just tea made from fresh ginger and chamomile works. For him, the pure ginger was by far the most effective remedy.

He spent all day Tuesday waiting for that MRI, stuck there from 10 AM until 7 PM. I drove him home, and both he and my mother felt quite unwell through Wednesday. Honestly, I suspect much of it was psychological—the grueling wait, the hunger, the thirst, and that underlying dread. He kept talking about how terrifying it was, describing how they pumped him full of fluids and kept him restrained...
Then, remarkably, after three months of being bedridden and shuffled around hospital rooms, he hopped on his bike and rode to the store the very next day. He must have gone at least a mile, and he seemed perfectly fine. However, the stress and shock of it all took a heavy toll on my mother that night; she fell ill, and I really don't need to elaborate on how difficult that was. She has spent months hovering over him, trembling at every sigh he makes, and then suddenly, there he is, pedaling away on a bicycle...
Yesterday, he was dealing with intense pain and significant bloating, so I had to drive him to the emergency department. Unfortunately, it wasn't his regular doctor—whom I usually hold in the highest regard—but rather the physician on call, who actually had the nerve to mock my mother for seeking a second opinion from an oncologist.
Dad received an IV and some other treatments, and after I brought him home, he felt pretty rough. He didn't finally drift off until after midnight. Yet today, he seems like a new man, walking around the backyard. Of course, that doesn't mean things won't shift again in five minutes.
I know I’ve rambled quite a bit here. I am trying my absolute best to be their rock and remain composed, but the truth is, I am completely exhausted.
The biopsy is scheduled for Tuesday.

Carl Kern66, hang in there! 😘
Linda Patel21 Linda Patel21 Active Member
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joined Feb 2014
#264 ·
Hey feralsurfer72, I know things are rough for everyone right now, but your dad’s got it the hardest. Just keep being there for him like you always have. I know he’s gonna drive you all crazy a hundred more times, but try to bear with him—he’s just trying to get back to how things used to be. Tell him to take it easy, but if he wants to go for a walk, let him. It won't hurt his recovery, and honestly, it'll probably help his head space. Better than him just lying around letting depression win. Hang in there!
Nicholas Myers Nicholas Myers Active Member
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#265 ·
Lee464, I've moved your posts over to a broader thread: Malignant Tumors - General Questions.
Scott Harris14 Scott Harris14 Member
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#266 ·
URGENT!

Does anyone have experience with supplements that help stabilize body temperature during chemo? My relative isn't on it right now because her temp keeps fluctuating wildly...
feralsurfer72 feralsurfer72 Member
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joined Feb 2014
#267 ·
wanderingcobra76 said:Liver punctures or biopsies—or any other organ biopsy within the abdominal cavity performed under ultrasound or CT guidance—aren't handled as outpatient procedures.
Because of that, you can't simply book one through a referral using an insurance card.
The patient actually needs to be admitted to the hospital—whether that’s oncology, surgery, or gastroenterology, depending on who is managing their care—and then the attending physician coordinates directly with an interventional radiologist to schedule the procedure.
Afterward, the patient stays overnight for observation to ensure everything is stable.

Thanks, wanderingcobra76. It seems those who were supposed to know better didn't, and they ended up taking their frustration out on us; ultimately, though, the truth had a way of sorting itself out.
Angela Wright Angela Wright RegularOP
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#268 ·
Nancy Robinson26 said:URGENT!

Does anyone have experience with specific supplements to help bring down a fever quickly during chemo? I think she isn't receiving treatment right now because her temperature keeps fluctuating wildly...

Anyone undergoing chemotherapy who develops a fever needs to seek medical attention immediately—it’s non-negotiable. A high temperature is a massive red flag; it often means the immune system has been compromised by the chemo, leaving the door wide open for an infection. If you don't get antibiotics into the system fast enough, things can turn lethal very quickly.
Beyond that, there isn't much you can do besides standard over-the-counter stuff like Tylenol, Advil, or Aleve, but you absolutely have to consult a doctor regarding antibiotics. Masking a fever with painkillers can be dangerous because it hides what's actually happening inside the body, potentially allowing a serious situation to spiral out of control before anyone realizes the gravity of it.
Jamie Jones8 Jamie Jones8 Member
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#269 ·
Hey everyone...

A dear friend of mine was recently diagnosed with stomach cancer... they had to perform surgery to remove her entire stomach... and according to her doctor, she actually caught it "just in time." She lives out of state, and I honestly never could have imagined how incredibly heavy it would feel to talk about this disease... I try so hard to stay positive and keep things upbeat, but I think my feelings are pretty obvious, so I don't really know what to say...
All I know is that my heart just broke when she told me tonight that the cancer has spread to her bones, and now she’s starting a new round of chemo and radiation, which just sent me into tears.
...she’s started feeling these pains in her back lately...😢😢😢😢 and she’s been complaining that they're really intense for days now... I was just so terrified to hear what the bone scan results would show.

I guess I'm wondering if the therapy can help at all, and if there's any real hope of stopping the disease from getting worse?😢
cosmiclynx14 cosmiclynx14 Newcomer
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#270 ·
Jamie Jones8 said:Hi everyone...

A close friend of mine was diagnosed with stomach cancer... they had to perform surgery to remove her entire stomach... and according to her doctor, she caught it "just in time." She lives out of state, and I honestly never imagined how difficult it would be to talk about this disease... I try to stay optimistic all the time, but I think I'm being too "transparent"... so I don't really know the specifics...
All I know is that I am absolutely devastated. When she told me tonight that the cancer has metastasized to her bones and she’s starting a new round of chemo and radiation, I just broke down.
...she started feeling pain in her back...😢😢😢😢 and she's been complaining about how intense it is for days now... I was terrified to hear the results of the bone scan.

Is there any way the therapy can help? Is there actually hope to stop this from getting worse?😢

Angela Wright🙂 will surely chime in with some comforting words... but unfortunately, nobody here can tell you which way this is going to go. Even though that's the first thing we all want to ask, there's no answer. It depends on so many variables. Right now, you can just be there for support. Find the strength to find some genuine hope within yourself, because that is the only way you can truly help her. Cry when you're alone, but when you're with her, be as solid as a rock. Have faith. I keep telling myself—miracles do happen, don't they!?!
Angela Wright Angela Wright RegularOP
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#271 ·
Jamie Jones8 said:Hi everyone...

A close friend of mine was diagnosed with stomach cancer... they had to perform surgery to remove her entire stomach... and according to the doctor, she caught it "just in time." She lives in another state, and I honestly never imagined how incredibly difficult it would be to talk about this disease. I keep trying to stay upbeat and optimistic, but I feel like I'm being "transparent," so I don't really know the specific medical details...
All I know is that I'm absolutely devastated. When she told me tonight that the cancer has metastasized to her bones and she’s starting a new round of chemo and radiation, I just broke down in tears.
...She started feeling pain in her back..😢😢😢😢 and she’s been complaining about how intense it is for days now... I was terrified to hear the results of the bone scan.

Can the therapy actually help, and is there any hope of stopping this downward spiral?😢

Radiation is used specifically for bone metastases, and it’s usually the most effective approach.
Look, it’s hard to give much insight when you don't have the full clinical picture. No target is a good one, and the circumstances are definitely grim, but these types of situations are managed in modern medicine every day.
But you? You need to stop the crying and quit internalizing this as if it's your own crisis to solve. This is your friend, and she is the one living through the reality of this. It’s hard on you because you love her, but don't make it harder for her. A lot of people pull away or shut down entirely because the guilt of "bringing others down" with their illness becomes a heavier burden than the actual disease itself. So, pull yourself together and just *be there* for her. Don't pity her and don't mourn her while she's still fighting. She is in the trenches, and she needs you to be her rock when she starts to waver.
feralsurfer72 feralsurfer72 Member
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#272 ·
Linda Patel21 said:Dear feralsurfer72, I know this is incredibly heavy for everyone involved, but I can only imagine how much harder it is on Dad. Please try to be his anchor, just as you have been up until now; I know he’ll likely drive you all up the wall a hundred more times, but do try to bear with him, as he's simply desperate to reclaim the life he had before all this. Tell him to take care, but if he insists on a little walk, let him go—I don't think it will do much harm to his condition, and honestly, the movement might actually help his spirits. It’s certainly better than letting him sink into depression. Wishing you strength.

Dear John Foster38, thank heavens he isn't driving us crazy quite yet, because the pain started this past Monday. I rushed him to the hospital, and by Tuesday at noon, we were supposed to have the paramedics transport him over to the Mayo Clinic for a biopsy, as previously scheduled. We stayed by his side from 10:30 until 1:00, doing our best to steady his nerves for the procedure, only for him to tell us around 2:00 PM that they hadn't even moved him and everything had been pushed back to May 6th. First, he was terrified of the biopsy itself, and then the frustration of being left hanging made him feel like the whole system was just broken... there was some sort of chaotic excuse about a road closure and an emergency case elsewhere. He’s still in the general ward, and the doctors are saying his condition is worsening and the disease is spreading. He’s still upright for now, but he is truly not the same man he was just forty-eight hours ago. As the clock ticks and things decline, we’re stuck waiting for those biopsy results, which means I’ll likely have to hunt down a different oncologist anyway, because this current one seems set in his ways regardless of what the labs show. It feels as though this entire ordeal is designed just to give me the illusion that I'm actually helping him, when in reality, I'm just watching him suffer through nothing.
hiddenviper73 hiddenviper73 Newcomer
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#273 ·
4 packs of Prosure
orange-flavored dietary supplements, if anyone's interested
I'm happy to give these away for free. Just a reminder, these are nutritional supplements intended for people managing
serious illnesses or other major health conditions. If you could use them, please reach out. Again, I am not selling these—they are a gift.
Carl Kern66 Carl Kern66 Newcomer
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#274 ·
feralsurfer72 said:Dear John Foster38, honestly, thank God they haven't driven us completely insane yet. The pain started on Monday. I rushed him to the hospital, and then on Tuesday at noon, the ER was supposed to transfer him to the main medical center for a biopsy—that’s what we had lined up. We were there with him from 10:30 until 1:00, trying our best to mentally prep him for the procedure, only for him to tell us around 2:00 PM that they didn't even transfer him and everything got pushed back to May 6th. First he was terrified of the biopsy, and now he's spiraling because the fact that they didn't move him just feels like proof that the whole system is broken... It was all some nonsense about a closed road or an emergency case... He's still in the internal medicine ward; they say his condition is worsening and the disease is spreading. He can still walk, but he’s just not the same person he was two days ago. Time is ticking while things get worse, and once the biopsy is done and we get the results, I’ll have to hunt down another oncologist anyway, because this "first" one isn't going to change his mind no matter what the reports say. It feels like they're just dragging this out to give me some fake sense that I'm actually doing something for him, when really I'm doing nothing but putting him through hell.


I am so incredibly sorry everything turned upside down so fast. Hang in there!

We went to the oncologist for a checkup yesterday. She stopped his chemo because his lab work came back bad (high potassium, plus elevated creatinine and urea levels), and my dad was just too weak. She sent us straight to the ER internal medicine unit, and we spent the entire day there getting various treatments. Eventually, his potassium dropped by 0.4, and his creatinine and urea started coming down too, so we finally headed home. He got two IV infusions and seemed a little more alert right away.

The only issue now is the pain. His nephrologist told him not to take Ibuprofen (which he’d been using and it helped) because apparently, it goes straight for the kidneys. He took that as "I'm not allowed any pain meds at all," and well, you know how it goes. You just can't force him to take anything. But overall, he's doing much better than he was yesterday when we left for the appointment.

Just taking it day by day.....
silenttrucker58 silenttrucker58 Newcomer
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#275 ·
Hey everyone...
I'm new here, though I've been lurking on the boards for a while without actually signing up. Now I’ve hit a point where I feel totally lost and don't know how to handle this on my own... Mom is officially in palliative care, at least that's how it feels, even if the doctors basically just leave you to figure out the hard parts by yourself. She was originally fighting glioblastoma, but now they're saying there's lung cancer too. I'd really appreciate it if Angela Wright could reach out—maybe via private message if that's even an option here—and then I promise I'll find the strength one day to share everything our family has gone through with all of you...
Thanks so much.
Angela Wright Angela Wright RegularOP
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#276 ·
silenttrucker58, feel free to hit me up in my DMs
brisklynx51 brisklynx51 Newcomer
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#277 ·
I'll try to keep this short—maybe.
  • My dad—he’s 69—was just diagnosed with microcellular lung cancer this October. I guess we're looking at what's next.
  • Started the PE protocol pretty quickly—knocked out all six cycles already. No regression, unfortunately—though I guess that’s just my luck, since about 80% of patients see decent results on their first try with this thing. Typical.
  • Follow-up X-ray—showing some progress (though it’s subtle—at least things haven't gone totally sideways in my lungs, I guess).

now - mine First off, there’s all this rage over how protocols vary from one hospital to the next—it's a mess. At the local community clinic, they stick strictly to the PE protocol, even though both the WHO guidelines and most major hospitals suggest scanning the endocranium at the same time. I guess consistency isn't exactly their priority.. 😠

Things are looking pretty grim right now—the brain metastases have progressed to the point where Dad’s become demented and delirious almost overnight. We had an MRI done privately back in March—since his oncology team at Mayo Clinic basically follows a policy of not even looking at the brain unless there's a neurological breakdown—and it showed multiple metastases, specifically in the left occipital region and some spots hitting the medulla. There’s one larger mass in that occipital area, which isn't the scariest part, though it is messing with his vision and causing light sensitivity. But those multiple spots on the medulla... yeah, those are tricky. 😢
It all passes eventually—even the stuff that feels like life or death to us right now, I guess.
Just so things don't get too "boring"—we had an episode last Monday. It started out as a partial—Jackson type—and then escalated into a full-blown grand mal. Honestly, it was pretty brutal to watch. Paramedics rushed him to the local hospital over in the suburbs, and I really don't even want to get into what his patient assessment looked like. My dad apparently has that paradoxical reaction to Diazepam—which isn't exactly unheard of—so he was super agitated after the seizure. He spotted me through the door, recognized me, and just kept screaming, "Angela Wright, untie me, get me out of here..." so I just sat there waiting. Eight hours. They watched him until they eventually had to restrain him—which, fine, sometimes that's necessary—and then once he calmed down a bit, they just sent him home?! No EEG, no consultation with a specialist neurologist, just handed him some anti-epileptics and said, "good luck." He finally fell asleep at home. 🙂 We ended up having to patch him up—legs and all—since he basically beat himself up while tied down... I guess.
Back at it again this Wednesday—though it was just Jackson having an episode. It was an emergency, so they didn't transport him further, but—surprise, surprise—they gave him Normabud once again. Even after we explained everything, their response was basically, "Well, it's possible, but it’s all we have and it's what we use for seizures." They left, and Dad ended up in this wide-awake, totally manic state for nearly 24 hours. He was doing these automatic movements—running around, brushing his teeth ten times in a row, grabbing a bar of soap like he actually wanted to eat it... you get the idea. So yeah, Dad is definitely "not all there." It doesn't help that he’s physically massive—he's 90kg and moves like a track star when he decides it's time to clean or lock the front door—so trying to hold him back is pretty much impossible.
Nah, I definitely went overboard—I guess. 😳 So, the gist is that since his last MRI, things have changed—there were no lesions in the upper half of the brain before, but now there's one in the frontal lobe. It’s probably on the right side, since the attacks seem to start with his left leg—or so a friend of mine who's a neurosurgeon tells me. And those frontal and temporal areas? Yeah, they're responsible for him losing things—to put it mildly. 😢 )
I know everything is going downhill—and I mean really bad. Honestly, the only thing getting me through this mess is how "wicked" he is. We’ve got a little one who just started walking and basically treats the whole house like a bathroom. He has these moments where he's actually coherent, though—like we'll be rambling about nothing, the news will be playing in the background, and he'll suddenly chime in to critique some Senator's statement by name. It’s a bit much to take in sometimes, but we're slowly settling back into a routine—working shifts, chatting with him—and I can see he actually thrives on it. Even if the topics are mostly nonsense. At the end of the day, I just want to see a happy face and bright eyes—as long as he isn't in pain, that's all that matters.
Yeah, we set things up with the nurses—he’s officially cleared for home health visits twice a week since he's mobile. We'll cover the rest out of pocket, though. Honestly, for the three of us to handle everything? It’s just too much—mentally, at least. And physically... well, it takes two people just to catch him when he decides to bolt.
..........
Anyway, sorry for rambling earlier—I just needed to vent somewhere. And hey, if anyone has tips on staying sane—mostly mentally, since all three of us barely got two or three hours of sleep this week—let me know. He can't stand being in the hospital, and I really don't want to deal with those screams like we did back at the ER 😢
One more thing. Normabell isn't putting him under, and they're telling us the alternative is a barbiturate. But considering how much that suppresses breathing, and he already has those DG lesions in his medulla, the doctors are pretty terrified to even try giving it to him...
Linda Patel21 Linda Patel21 Active Member
108 messages
joined Feb 2014
#278 ·
feralsurfer72, sent you a DM. How’s your old man doing?
Carl Kern66 Carl Kern66 Newcomer
4 messages
joined Apr 2007
#279 ·
brisklynx51 said:...

🙂

@ feralsurfer72, you got anything new going on over there?

I seriously need some advice here—what can I give my dad to actually jumpstart his appetite? He’ll eat whatever we put in front of him, sure, but it’s a total nightmare every single time. Honestly, he’s almost at the point of tears just because it’s mealtime. For the nausea, he takes some honey and ginger tea, and that seems to help a bit. But the nausea isn't even the main issue—it's the lack of interest in food. Everything tastes like cardboard to him, and he spends the entire day just dreading the moment he actually has to sit down and eat. It’s exhausting. This is a man who used to live for his meals, you know? It's just gut-wrenching.😢
Linda Patel21 Linda Patel21 Active Member
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joined Feb 2014
#280 ·
@Carl Kern66, Megostat is great if you need to kickstart an appetite. It works right along with the recipe.

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