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Support for families dealing with cancer and other serious illnesses (Part II)

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urbanharbor15 urbanharbor15 Member
21 messages
joined Dec 2017
#3281 ·
Morgan Williams3 said:The most honest advice I can give... if you have any means at all, go elsewhere. Get a second opinion outside of the US.

From my own experience, here—specifically in places like New York City or Chicago—you won't find a specialist in this field who actually knows how to treat it effectively. It’s almost like they have some sort of unspoken arrangement with funeral homes... 🙄

Either that, or we just had the terrible luck of running into "those types" one after another. 😢

I get it; lung cancer is lethal enough on its own, but unfortunately, I’ve had similar experiences with American hospitals. At Jordanovac, we were stuck waiting three whole weeks for my mother's official bronchoscopy results just because the doctor was away on vacation... even though both the CT scan and the procedure itself clearly showed a tumor.

Run from American hospitals if you can. Act fast, because lung cancers are usually caught when they've already advanced too far. Good luck.
quietviper quietviper Newcomer
4 messages
joined Jan 2011
#3282 ·
Hello everyone

My boy is dealing with this malignancy in his large intestine... right at the exit. About two or three months ago, his markers were sitting at 200, but now they’ve spiked all the way up to 900. The hardest part is that he didn't want surgery or chemo; he tried to handle it through other methods instead, and well, that hasn't really led him anywhere. I guess I'm wondering, just how bad is it when those markers jump like that? Is it possible that it has metastasized?
He isn't scheduled for an MRI until Friday... back when he had one two months ago, the tumor was roughly the same size as it was last April when they first found it.

I wish nothing but all the health in the world to everyone who is struggling out there div>
crimsoncanyon3 crimsoncanyon3 Newcomer
1 message
joined Apr 2020
#3283 ·
quietviper said:Hello everyone

My boyfriend has this issue in his large intestine, right at the exit... about 2-3 months ago, his markers were at 200, but now they've spiked to 900. The toughest part is that he didn't want surgery or chemo; instead, he tried treating it through other methods, and in the end, none of that led anywhere. I'm wondering how bad it is when those markers jump like that? Is it possible that it has metastasized?
He isn't heading in for an MRI until Friday... back when he had the MRI two months ago, the tumor was the same size as it was last year in April when they first found it.

I wish everyone fighting this all the health in the world div>

In any case, a spike in tumor markers like that isn't a good sign. It is possible that metastases are present, but it's not a certainty either. Definitely advise him to commit to a proven treatment plan this time around. You can find more info on this disease here: https://www.oncology.com/colorectal-cancer
crimsoncanyon3 crimsoncanyon3 Newcomer
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joined Apr 2020
#3284 ·
Rebecca Doyle6 said:Hello
I'm looking for an oncologist recommendation in Chicago for a second opinion!
Lung cancer.

Dr. Kust, Solmed Clinic
Chloe Bennett5 Chloe Bennett5 Newcomer
4 messages
joined Sep 2020
#3285 ·
My sincere condolences to everyone who has lost loved ones, and my heart goes out to those currently fighting these brutal diseases.

Apologies in advance for the long post.

On February 12, 2020, my mother received a pathology report confirming Glioblastoma Multiforme Grade IV, wild type.
She underwent two surgeries at Johns Hopkins Hospital. The first was on February 5, 2020. A follow-up MRI four weeks later showed total tumor progression. She had a second surgery on March 30, 2020. Following that, she underwent 30 consecutive radiation sessions combined with Temodal 120 mg over a total of 42 days. There was absolutely no response to the therapy. An MRI two months after the last radiation session showed even greater progression. Both the neurosurgeon and she decided to stop further surgeries and stick to oncological treatment.
At the end of the ninth month, she started the PCV protocol. There isn't much written about this specific protocol online.
Angela Wright, thank you for the information.

The PCV protocol: Day 1 involves three 40mg CCNU tablets. Seven days later, there is a Vincristine infusion, followed by 10 days of taking Natulan tablets. Seven days after the last tablet, there is another Vincristine infusion.
The plan was for four cycles.
Before each part of a cycle, she had to have her CBC and differential checked. Results had to be stable for her to proceed with the next stage.
One cycle lasts one month.

After the second cycle, another brain MRI showed even more significant tumor progression.
During the second half of the third cycle, my mother decided to stop all further treatment.

Since stopping therapy, she takes Dexamethasone 4 mg, Lercanil 10mg, Acipan 40 mg, Diazepam 5mg, Lamal 25mg, and Glucophage 850 mg.
Since the beginning, she has been taking Noni, raw propolis, and turmeric.

For pain management, she used Advil 600mg for a long time, then moved up to Advil 800 SR.

Over the last two weeks, the disease has progressed rapidly. We have moved her into a care facility because I can no longer provide the level of intensive care she requires.
Currently, only her right arm remains mobile.
She has been aware of her diagnosis from the very start.

I am with her almost every day, and every day things get worse. The disease is advancing relentlessly.

It is incredibly difficult to watch her slowly slip away.

For pain, she is now on Matrifen 50 patches, Oxigerolan 20mg tablets, and Dronabinol oil drops.
Today, I’m going to try to reach an anesthesiologist through the pain clinic to adjust her medication. We can barely touch her; she says everything hurts.
Morgan Kern61 Morgan Kern61 Newcomer
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joined May 2011
#3286 ·
I suppose I could use some recommendations for a second opinion from an oncologist regarding a primary tumor in the cervical spine.

I wonder if anyone could clarify the exact procedure for requesting a second opinion.
Thank you.
Morgan Kern61 Morgan Kern61 Newcomer
1 message
joined May 2011
#3287 ·
Morgan Kern61 said:I am looking for a recommendation for a second opinion from an oncologist regarding a primary tumor in the cervical spine.
Thank you.

Chicago
Angela Wright Angela Wright RegularOP
731 messages
joined Feb 2007
#3288 ·
Morgan Kern61 said:I'm looking for recommendations for a second opinion from an oncologist regarding a primary tumor in the cervical spine.

Also, if anyone could walk me through the exact process for requesting a second opinion, I'd appreciate it.

Thank you.

Dr. Fedor Shantek at Johns Hopkins Hospital
Besides him, you definitely need a neurosurgeon to take a look. Everyone at Johns Hopkins is top-tier—they were all trained by Paladin.

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Morgan Kern61 Morgan Kern61 Newcomer
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joined May 2011
#3289 ·
Angela Wright, thank you..
It seems you have
cosmiccobra2 cosmiccobra2 Newcomer
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joined Feb 2022
#3290 ·
hello,
I’m looking for some solid ENT recommendations in Chicago. Dealing with a benign thyroid tumor. Any leads?
thanks!
Maria Allen6 Maria Allen6 Newcomer
7 messages
joined May 2018
#3291 ·
Chloe Bennett5 said:During the second half of her third cycle, my mother decided to stop all further treatment.

Since stopping therapy, she’s been taking Dexamethasone 4 mg, Lercanil 10mg, Acipan 40 mg, Diazepam 5mg, Lamal 25mg, and Gluformin 850 mg.
From the very beginning, she’s also been using Noni, raw propolis, and turmeric.

To manage the pain, she used Advil 600mg for a long time, then moved up to Advil 800 SR.

Over the last two weeks, the illness has progressed aggressively. We’ve had to move her into a care facility because I simply can't provide the level of intensive care and constant attention she requires right now.
At the moment, the only part of her body she can still move is her right arm.
She has been fully aware of her diagnosis from day one.

I am by her side almost every single day, and every day things just seem to spiral further downward as the disease advances.

It is incredibly difficult to watch her slowly slip away.

For pain management, she is currently on Matrifen 50 patches, Oxigerolan 20mg tablets, and she’s using Dronabinol oil drops.
Today, I’m going to try to reach the anesthesiologist through the pain clinic to see if they can adjust her regimen, because we can't even touch her without causing distress—she says everything hurts.

Yes, unfortunately, that is how this path unfolds. That is precisely why palliative chemo is administered—to ease the transition in those final days when the pain intensifies, though even then, the nausea often persists for a few days. She really shouldn't have walked away from the chemo, regardless of how terrible it felt. I honestly don't know what else to say...
Melissa Sanchez8 Melissa Sanchez8 Active Member
65 messages
joined Mar 2015
#3292 ·
Chloe Bennett5 said:For pain, she’s currently on Matrifen 50 tablets, Oxigerolan 20mg, and using Dronabinol oil drops.
I’m going to try to get her to an anesthesiologist through the pain clinic today to sort out her meds... we can't even touch her without it hurting. She says everything hurts.

I really hope they bumped up her prescription. Honestly, speaking from my own experience and my background as a healthcare worker, I think the American healthcare system is just heartless when it comes to oncology patients' pain. What they prescribe is basically nothing. All someone in her position needs is to spend what little time they have left with as much comfort as possible...
Robin Diaz4 Robin Diaz4 Active Member
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joined Jun 2006
#3293 ·
Melissa Sanchez8 said:I really hope she was given more aggressive pain management. Speaking from both my own experience and my perspective as a healthcare professional, I find the American healthcare system to be utterly heartless when it comes to the suffering of oncology patients. What they prescribe often feels like nothing at all. When someone is in that position, the absolute priority should be ensuring whatever time they have left is spent with as little pain as possible.

I couldn't agree more. We were actually quite "lucky" in our case—my father ended up under the care of an excellent doctor who didn't hold back on the pain relief. Because of that, he wasn't suffering needlessly once it became clear that the end was inevitable. He had access to everything from patches to various types of pills—both extended-release and fast-acting options.
It’s funny, though; a colleague of mine was genuinely baffled by how we managed to get those medications, because when her mother was being treated, they told her that using Matrifen wasn't recommended due to the risk of addiction (!?).
With all due respect to the medical establishment, I truly believe that when someone is facing a terminal illness, worrying about addiction is the very least of our concerns.
Eric Newman75 Eric Newman75 Active Member
137 messages
joined Jul 2011
#3294 ·
Robin Diaz4 said:With all due respect to the medical experts out there, I honestly think addiction is the least of anyone's worries when they're facing a terminal diagnosis.

Spot on. It’s honestly ridiculous to even entertain those kinds of arguments. The fundamental principle should be that a patient shouldn't have to suffer through pain. We need to prevent that at all costs—not just for people at the end of their journey, but for everyone. Pain is useful only until a diagnosis is made. Once you know what you're dealing with, the goal should be to get rid of it immediately.
Melissa Sanchez8 Melissa Sanchez8 Active Member
65 messages
joined Mar 2015
#3295 ·
Robin Diaz4 said:With all due respect to the medical professionals, I honestly feel like addiction is the absolute least of anyone's worries when they're facing a terminal illness.

Exactly. Where I'm working right now, we give oncology patients high doses of IV morphine without a second thought. We use heavy doses of both fast-acting and extended-release morphine tablets too. There are zero restrictions. It's all about managing the pain and making it disappear... because at the end of the day, that's the only thing that matters.
Sophia Peterson69 Sophia Peterson69 Newcomer
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joined Mar 2021
#3296 ·
Looking for any info on ovarian cancer... both ovaries and fallopian tubes were removed, surgery went fine, but my CA-125 marker hit somewhere around 1000. Now the doctors want to take out my uterus too. They’re saying it’s preventative because they caught it early. Anyone have experience with this? What comes next, and what are the actual survival odds? Noble thanks.
Maria Allen6 Maria Allen6 Newcomer
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joined May 2018
#3297 ·
Sophia Peterson69 said:Please, I need any information regarding ovarian cancer... both ovaries and fallopian tubes have been removed, and the surgery went fine, but the marker showed a value around 1000 something, and now the doctors want to remove the uterus too. They say it’s being done preventatively because it was caught early... if anyone has any experience with what comes next or the chances of recovery for any kind of ovarian cancer, please help. Thank you in advance.

You could have been a bit more specific about which exact marker showed that reading and whether that happened before or after the removal of the ovaries and tubes. To be honest, when I hear someone say it was "preventative" but also "caught in time," those two ideas feel like they're working against each other. Usually, prevention implies acting to stop something from happening, whereas if it’s already been detected, we aren't talking about prevention anymore—we're talking about treatment because the issue is already present. At this stage, everything hinges on whether it has metastasized or not. If it hasn't spread, then with cancer, the logic is relatively straightforward: you cut it out, and it's gone.
crimsoncanyon3 crimsoncanyon3 Newcomer
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joined Apr 2020
#3298 ·
Sophia Peterson69 said:Please share any info regarding ovarian cancer... both ovaries and fallopian tubes have been removed. The surgery went smoothly, but the marker showed a value somewhere around 1000. Now the doctors want to remove the uterus too—they say it's a preventative measure because everything was caught early. If anyone has experience with what comes next or information on cure rates, I'd really appreciate it. Thanks in advance.

It’s most likely referring to the CA-125 tumor marker, which is a huge piece of the puzzle when monitoring ovarian cancer. If she’s already had children and isn't planning on having more, removing the uterus shouldn't cause any major issues. The big thing now is waiting for that final pathology report to determine the next steps for treatment.
More on this topic: https://www.oncology.com/ovarian-cancer...peritoneum
Angela Wright Angela Wright RegularOP
731 messages
joined Feb 2007
#3299 ·
Sophia Peterson69 said:Please, any info regarding ovarian cancer... both ovaries and fallopian tubes have been removed. The surgery went fine, but the marker showed a value around 1000 something, and now the doctors want to remove the uterus too. They say it was caught early as a preventative measure... if anyone has experience with what comes next or the chances of recovery, thanks in advance.

That’s most likely the CA-125.
If it truly was caught early, things should look okay. By "early," I mean the tumor hasn't breached the abdominal cavity or spread to the lymph nodes. Once ovarian cancer becomes metastatic, the prognosis takes a much harder hit. The patient will need regular follow-ups to stay on top of everything.

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Jamie Rivera78 Jamie Rivera78 Member
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joined Nov 2016
#3300 ·
Raymond Smith53 said:Now everything just hinges on whether it's still spreading. If it hasn't metastasized, then cancer is actually pretty straightforward—you cut it out, and it's gone.

Look, cancer is way more complicated than that. We have zero clue if there are metastases hiding in there right now. Even when things look clean on the scans, they can pop up out of nowhere in a month, two months, or six. And honestly? If that CA-125 is sitting near 1000, there’s no reason to be feeling optimistic.

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