Die-hard Ultras / Hardcore Supporters

William Turner28 said:If you could pass that along to me too, I'd appreciate it. Thanks.

Hey, can you get silentdrifter23 to pass that over to me? I've gotta jump off the computer because I actually have some work to get done.🙂

Just drop the link so we can get 150 people over there and tear them apart.

We already turned 15 forums against Jerry Jones, we’ll do the same thing here.

Daniel Johnson46 said:You know what the real issue is—there are idiots calling my phone right now, claiming we’ve turned our backs on the Dodgers. Honestly, that's just impossible. And it's not even like they're some hooligans anymore; they're just traveling to bigger away games. I personally get three calls like that, plus people on this forum acting out the same nonsense. The thing is, if you gave these types of people three days in jail instead of a month—considering how many of yours got two months versus four of ours getting picked up—they wouldn't show up to a game ever again. I can't wrap my head around anyone saying they don't support the club. Just imagine, about 25 people were slapped with a month in detention. In this country, the only people left getting treated like that are murderers. I'm done watching this sport. And frankly, the loss doesn't even hurt, because what's happening right now is five times bigger than football. I think we should dump everything onto the news sites and hit them hard, because I'm convinced these arrests and all this chaos are just Jerry Jones' desperate last stands. Now is the time to strike back with press releases and everything else. We have to be united. Right now, people aren't even cheering for the Dodgers—they're just rooting against these guys. Until Jerry Jones and his cronies are gone, we'll never see the honest, heartfelt game we actually want to watch in full stadiums.

Before that, it would be a miracle if there wasn't a mix of everyone... from genuine fans and Dodgers supporters who don't care about this whole ultra lifestyle and aren't part of it, to the absolute bottom-feeders who don't understand a damn thing, through the fake tough guys and the usual losers who just post trash to be toxic.
And the reality is, this would have been way easier for any other group to pull off than it was for the Black Knights.
It’s been a long road for a group to reach this point. I’ve always been pretty skeptical about most things, but the Black Knights are living through their most legendary era since the fan culture of the 80s.
Think about it—bringing 2,000 people into New York City on a Wednesday, a workday, three days after the season ends, only to get released by 3 PM because of "fan behavior"... you know some of those people are going to go home and talk trash about the Dodgers and the sport later. Only strong people and strong groups can handle that. This is one of the biggest days for both the Black Knights and the entire American supporter movement.
The last time I walked through New York City like this was over 23 years ago, before the war, and I didn't think I'd ever feel it again. But right now, you can actually feel a similar atmosphere. Those guys fell in the end, and these guys will fall too!

Jesse Campbell said:And I don't get why we're even talking about this in the fan culture thread?

Since when have we been acting like locals around here lately?🤷😉
ps - sent you a PM

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It is truly unfortunate, however, that the New York Yankees' most significant victory over the Los Angeles Dodgers was accompanied by one of the lowest attendances in the history of this derby. In a few decades, very few Yankees fans will be able to boast—"You know, son, back when we crushed the Dodgers 5-0—I was actually there." In such a somber and pathetic atmosphere of empty stadium seats, even this historic triumph of the Yankees against their greatest rival loses much of its luster.
Philosophy often circles around the question: "If a tree falls in a forest and no one is there to hear it, does it make a sound?"

Did the Yankees truly win if there was no one there to celebrate it?
The fact that many Dodgers fans traveled hundreds of miles only to end up standing in solidarity with the BBB—choosing a "higher purpose" and leaving their own players without support for the first time this season—sends a vital message. It is a message that everyone who believes they can win through mere ignorance or repression will eventually have to face. The reality that the Black Knights and the BBB demonstrated they can exist side-by-side, just a few feet apart without police cordons "protecting" them—without a single insult or fight breaking out—carries far more weight than many realize.
No matter how much the sporting and political "centers of power" may underestimate or trivialize the "fan revolution" rolling through American stadiums this season, there is something here that simply cannot be ignored.
A derby without the Black Knights and the BBB is sad and hollow. Soccer without fans is worthless and meaningless.
And, in the long run, it is unsustainable.

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Hey, shouting out to the crew from Savannah! We were just catching up in Berlin last year before that trip to Ireland, and we already decided we’re gonna be standing side-by-side in the stands together real soon ☕

So, man, things just got incredibly heavy—three of our guys were picked up by the cops this past Sunday in New York City along with the Boise crew... they were hauled off to Brooklyn for a month of investigative detention, and honestly, nobody even knows what the hell happened or why... I’m reaching out here to ask anyone in charge, or maybe someone who might have some inside scoop, to please post whatever info you have about our people. Also, if we need to pull together for legal aid or even just some financial support to help them out, let's get organized, okay? Just shoot me the names and any other details via DM... I seriously can't believe there's total silence on this everywhere else!!!🤷

A few of us were just on the boat talking about making some donations for our guys and those folks from the suburbs who are always acting tough. We know exactly where to send money to them, but where do we send ours for our own boys???

JERRY JONES IS A SCAMMER

We absolutely need to set up a single, unified bank account for everyone in the supporter group. It’ll make proving they didn't do anything wrong so much easier—trying to fight this massive injustice without any financial or legal backing is basically impossible! I’m totally convinced that every single die-hard fan across the entire US will step up and chip in to help.

A friend of mine, one of those die-hard Black Knights fanatics, is actually considering throwing a beer at Tim Heaton as some sort of payback, and then maybe hosting the Boise crew down on the Boardwalk... man, what happened to the good old days? 😁

Noah Moore67 said:Three of our guys got picked up in New York City this past Sunday along with the Boise crew... hauled off to Brooklyn for a month of detention without a single word explaining why. Can anyone with actual intel or connections tell us what’s going on with them? If we need to pull together some legal funds or help out, let me know. Send names and details via DM. Hard to believe nobody’s even talking about our people.🤷

I only know one guy who got hauled in at the same time we did, but they let us go immediately... why?

I honestly feel like there's zero point even posting on this forum anymore... people have been stuck in custody for four days now—elderly folks are all the way out in New York City looking for them—and it's like, man, I can't even imagine how they have absolutely no idea why they were even picked up in the first place. I’m seriously asking the higher-ups to please, please get someone organized to help these parents out, and especially those guys, because this whole situation is just messed up. They were taken over to Brooklyn for some investigation stuff and then sent straight to jail because of some alleged scuffle with the cops and verbal insults or whatever... basically, they're 100% behind bars right now. PLEASE, we need to organize something ASAP!!! If anyone needs specific names or details, just hit me up on private message...

Noah Moore67 said:I don't think anyone's even gonna bother posting here... people have been in custody for 4 days, elderly folks are out in New York City looking for them, and nobody has a clue why they were picked up in the first place. I'm begging whoever is in charge to get someone to help these parents and especially the guys because this is messed up... They got hauled off to Queens for some investigation and now they're stuck in jail because of some alleged assault on cops or whatever... basically they're definitely behind bars... WE NEED HELP FAST!!! Hit me up on DM if you need names or anything...

Someone from the VHA group needs to step up and coordinate this. It's easy enough for us to help out. But this is the first time you guys are actually speaking up.

I heard you guys got busted yesterday too? Anyone got the scoop?

Some guy from Chicago and a girl I met. Honestly, I'm not so sure about her.

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I heard you guys were getting hauled off by the cops yesterday too? Anyone got the scoop?

At the entrance, they pulled me aside after the sweep and made me show my ID and take off my hat again—then they just let me go with a "not him." Whatever that was supposed to mean, I guess.
Judging by how the cop was gesturing and talking on his radio, it felt like they had a specific grudge against people who weren't even on their lists. Probably something to do with those videos from Sunday. 🤷
Honestly, I have no clue how it wrapped up or if anyone actually ended up being the guy they were looking for.

Kevin Nelson3 said:They pulled me aside at the entrance after the search, demanding my ID again and telling me to take off my hat before finally letting me through with a "not him." Whatever that was supposed to mean.
Judging by how the cop was gesturing and talking on his radio, I'd say they were targeting people who weren't on their lists. Probably something to do with those videos from Sunday. 🤷
Who knows how it ended, or if anyone actually got told "that's the guy."

My take? They were out to get the locals on Sunday, and during the arrests, they were obsessively checking everyone's home addresses.

As far as I can tell, we’ve got four of our guys involved instead of three. The police response was a complete disaster—they were probably just running, yet now they're being blamed for attacking an officer. From what I know, there hasn't been a conviction like this in a long time, but you can never be too sure about the outcome.

Dana Richardson89 said:My sense was that they had their eyes on the boys this past Sunday, and during the detentions, they seemed particularly preoccupied with checking everyone's home addresses.

It certainly felt that way; once the roughhousing and searches were over and they’d finished grabbing all our data, they let us go, though you could tell they were whispering and making arrangements amongst themselves in the interim. One thing I overheard was someone asking if they should file a report, to which the other replied, "Don't bother with those guys from Miami."

northernorca3 said:For sure. They tossed us out after the whole beatdown and data grab, probably making some backroom deals while we were sidelined. All I heard was one guy asking if he should even bother posting, and the other just goes, "Don't bother with those guys from Miami."

Same exact story over here.

Dana Richardson89 said:I'm feeling the exact same way about this situation.

I’m not an active fan myself, but looking at this... what are the actual odds of this being settled through the legal system?

When it comes to data protection, who actually sets the standards for when the Police can step in? Like, even if you’re dealing with the biggest powerhouse club in the world—say, the Dallas Cowboys or something—where does anyone get the right to just detain someone if there isn't a warrant or an active ban out on them? It doesn't make sense.

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Honestly, this whole post is just pure absurdity—I don't see any logic here, let alone any legal basis for these kinds of actions. Look, even if someone were to commit a serious crime, once they've served their sentence (or finished their suspension in our sports world), nobody should be allowed to keep coming after them like this!