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northernorca3 northernorca3 Member
41 messages
joined Nov 2012
#421 ·
I mean, honestly, you could just throw some salt on his tail instead of dragging him through a whole lawsuit
vividotter40 vividotter40 Active Member
148 messages
joined Feb 2013
#422 ·
I remember hearing one of those Turtles say, "Welcome to the Maximilien camp."
fadedhound86 fadedhound86 Member
17 messages
joined Jan 2022
#423 ·
I can't help but wonder why it took this much time just to get something like this moving? Jerry Jones has been running things at Real Madrid for what, 12 years now? We've cycled through all sorts of guys like Donald Sterling, John Grisham, and George Soros... Mark Zuckerberg has basically lived at the USSF forever, and lately we've got Pelé in there too, so where on earth are Joe Biden and the whole officiating organization hiding...
Look, I'm not some hardcore fanatic, but I have nothing but respect for all the fans out there, because they seem to be the only ones in this entire country actually FIGHTING for what they believe in despite all the insane crackdowns, while everyone else in the rest of the nation just sits around in a total stupor, claiming they're against everything corrupt while they sip their lattes or wander through shopping malls. And of course, the "elites" look down on fans like they're just some backward idiots who belong in a place like Key West. But hey, they're the enlightened, urban crowd, right...
I really wanted to be in New York City for this, but unfortunately I'm stuck here with college work, though the action moved over to San Diego, which is exactly where I'm heading for sure...
Honestly, my take is that we should just print out a bunch of flyers back in Miami to make it clear to everyone that the boys are more than welcome at Madison Square Garden, since we definitely have enough clueless people—mostly because we just have so many more fans than they do—who don't realize what's happening. And in return, we need to pack the Rose Bowl as full as humanly possible; it would send such a massive message to the USSF, to Jerry Jones, to Warren Buffett, and everyone else involved...
Noah Moore67 Noah Moore67 Newcomer
3 messages
joined Dec 2013
#424 ·
Daniel Johnson46 said:As far as I can tell, there are actually four of our guys detained, not just three. And honestly, the police handling this is a complete joke—they were basically just running, yet now they’re being charged with assaulting an officer. From what I know, it’s unlikely they’ll get out anytime soon, though nothing is set in stone just yet.

Look, that’s exactly why I’m bringing it up—nobody seems to realize that our people have been picked up... so I figured I'd post it here to get the word out, hoping maybe someone who actually has some pull might see it and help... anyway, cheers!
Brandon Wilson14 Brandon Wilson14 Active Member
73 messages
joined Sep 2011
#425 ·
I really think we should set up a single, dedicated bank account as soon as possible regarding everything that happened this past weekend. That way, both sides can finally get moving and start hiring their legal counsel without any further delay.
amberheron222 amberheron222 Newcomer
1 message
joined Dec 2013
#426 ·
So, anyone else hearing about our guys getting picked up? I know of this one dude who got detained just because he was standing in the wrong spot at the wrong time—basically his first time ever being in New York City, no prior record, zero complaints filed against him... and somehow he’s looking at 30 days of pretrial detention. Get this: yesterday, they were originally hauling him in for allegedly assaulting an officer and obstructing justice, but now they’ve suddenly swapped the charge to MASSIVE DISRUPTION OF PUBLIC ORDER AND PEACE... 😲 which is a brand new offense under the Penal Code. From what I’m hearing, he’s the only guy from Miami facing 30 days right now.
Steven Hayes Steven Hayes Member
37 messages
joined Jul 2013
#427 ·
What a win

No mercy to you losers. This isn't even about Liverpool FC or the Black Knights, but pretty much every older guy I know is out there backing the Black Knights and supporting everything they've been doing lately.

Absolute nonsense 🙂🎉
wearyorca75 wearyorca75 Active Member
68 messages
joined Sep 2012
#428 ·
amberheron222 said:Yeah, we've got our people getting picked up... I know a guy who was detained just for being in the wrong place at the wrong time—mostly his first time ever in New York City, no prior record, zero complaints filed against him—and he gets 30 days of pretrial detention. Now, compared to when he was arrested for allegedly attacking an officer or obstructing an official, they switched the charge yesterday to MASSIVE DISRUPTION OF PUBLIC ORDER AND PEACE?!? 😲 which is apparently a crime under the new Penal Code. From what I hear, he’s the only one from Miami getting hit with 30 days

Disgusting. It was hard enough to believe what we've seen so far, but this is crossing every line imaginable.
This needs to hit the media every which way—every single detail. Get some FBI officials on a talk show, call them out publicly, demand answers. How? Why? Who is authorizing this kind of harassment? Someone needs to make Robert Mueller answer to the people about who is actually granting this authority...
wearyorca75 wearyorca75 Active Member
68 messages
joined Sep 2012
#429 ·
Steven Hayes said:what a win

No excuses, you coastal losers—this isn't about Liverpool FC or the Black Knights, but almost every OLDER guy I know backs the Black Knights and everything they've been doing lately...

absolute trash 🙂🎉

Good to know. The people around me are a bit more primitive—it’s almost funny watching them blame the fans for the score, acting like things wouldn't have gone south if they hadn't left the stands...
I'm gonna punch someone in the face before the day is over 🙂
briskwolf39 briskwolf39 Member
36 messages
joined Feb 2012
#430 ·
Kimberly Wells17 said:Nisan is an active fan, but regarding this... I wonder, what are the actual chances of this being settled through the courts?

Data privacy laws exist, right? And who sets the criteria for the FBI when it comes to pulling people in? Even if you’re looking at the biggest powerhouse in the league, say Real Madrid, where does anyone get the right to detain a guy if there isn't a warrant or some kind of restraining order out on him???

🙂

This post is just pure absurdity... I honestly don't see any logic here, nor do I see any legal basis for these kinds of actions! I mean, even if you actually killed someone, once you've served your sentence (or your ban in our football world), nobody has the right to mess with you anymore!

I don't know why everyone is acting surprised; this has been standard practice for years. 🤷

Kudos to both sides, really, but I just don't get why it took this long. Why the hell wasn't this sorted out much earlier? 😕
Daniel Johnson46 Daniel Johnson46 Active Member
74 messages
joined Nov 2013
#431 ·
Matthew Foster8 said:It would be a miracle if this didn't happen... ranging from those fake fans who don't care about Liverpool FC at all, to the clueless idiots, down to the trolls who just live to cause trouble.
And the reality is, any other group would have a much easier time pulling this off than the Black Knights.
It’s been a long road for a group to reach this level. I’ve always been pretty skeptical about most things, but right now, the Black Knights are living through their greatest era since the glory days of the 80s.
Bringing 2,000 people into New York City on a Wednesday—a workday—just three days after the season ends, only to be kicked out by the police because of some fan activity? Knowing full well a certain crowd will spend the next few days talking trash about us? Only strong people and truly powerful groups can handle that. This is one of the biggest moments for both the Black Knights and the entire American supporter movement.
The last time I walked through New York City like this was over 23 years ago, before the war, and I honestly don't think I'll ever feel it again. You can actually sense that same atmosphere now. They fell back then, and these guys will fall too.

Obviously. Getting our Liverpool FC to this point and then pulling this off is nothing short of a miracle, especially considering how everything looked just 7 or 8 years ago. Who could have imagined this?
Robin Anderson8 Robin Anderson8 Active Member
134 messages
joined Dec 2013
#432 ·
Kimberly Wells17 said:Nisan is an active fan, but regarding this... I wonder how likely it is that anything gets settled in court?

Data privacy, right? Who actually sets the criteria for the FBI to pull people in? Like, even if you're the biggest Real Madrid fan on the planet, where does anyone get the right to detain a guy if he hasn't been flagged or banned???

🙂

This whole post is just pure absurdity... I don't see any logic here, let alone a legal basis for any of these actions! Honestly, even if you killed someone, once you've served your time (or your ban in our soccer world), nobody should be able to mess with you anymore!

It's like this every single game. I mean, I went to the stadium for the first time this past Sunday and they didn't even check my ID or look me up on some blacklist... Every match feels like constant harassment and just total mental exhaustion.
boldhound8 boldhound8 Regular
437 messages
joined Oct 2007
#433 ·
Ryan Chavez3 said:You seriously can't believe some of this crap. I honestly thought things were shifting in NYC and that people weren't backing him anymore... but clearly, everyone's just stressed out and looking for a handout. As long as we got our fix, they don't care. It’s insane how many of them there actually are.

Walks into a local dive bar full of sellouts (don't ask, I basically ran into Iko Buljan🤣) and hears some jerk go, "So what if they call us mercenaries? My kids aren't gonna eat scraps." Just typical.🙏

Honestly, I can't stand those posts asking "who was even there" or "the group decided"... but look, if we're acting like the Black Knights, if the crew shows up and the group decides we're heading out in 15 minutes, why the hell do we even need to debate it?🤷 Look, the Black Knights have never been a hive mind, and they don't need to be, but if the group decides we're moving, we move. Period. We went, and that's that.🙂
Jonathan Gonzalez3 Jonathan Gonzalez3 Member
36 messages
joined Aug 2012
#434 ·
I’m looking to connect with anyone who was told they wouldn't be picked up because they were from the States, or maybe people who were promised a warm welcome at Yankee Stadium, or even if you’ve got someone close to you who got caught up in all this nonsense. Shoot me a DM—I can explain the whole situation privately.
Anthony Wilson22 Anthony Wilson22 Member
48 messages
joined Oct 2013
#435 ·
Ilurridze and Kouassi hanging out in San Jose with the Mamicevac Association. https://scontent-a-mxp.xx.fbcdn.net/...89323784_n.jpg
Taylor Morales2 Taylor Morales2 Member
21 messages
joined Sep 2011
#436 ·
Noah Moore67 said:Three of our guys were picked up by the cops this past Sunday in NYC along with the boys... they got hauled off to Brooklyn for a month of investigative detention, and honestly, nobody even knows the reason why... I'm reaching out to anyone in charge or anyone who might have some intel on what's happening with our people—please post an update... also, if we need to pull together for legal aid or financial support, let me know so we can get organized... shoot me the names and any other details via DM... I seriously can't believe no one is saying anything about our guys anywhere!!!🤷

Just some local guys from my neighborhood, regular supporters without any official fan credentials, clearly ended up in the wrong place at the wrong time... The police were just out that night handing out citations and swinging batons the second they spotted any group of guys hanging out.🙂
silentviper22 silentviper22 Member
10 messages
joined Oct 2012
#437 ·
boldhound8 said:He wanders into some mercenary's cafe (don't ask, I'm guessing he's acting just like Iko Buljan🤣) and starts acting like some big shot saying, "Oh, they call us mercenaries? So what? My kids aren't gonna sit there eating greasy scraps like those guys." End of story.🙏

Anyway, I seriously can't stand those posts asking "well, who was actually there?" or "the group decided this." Like, man, if we're acting like the Ultras, if the crew showed up and the collective call was to head out in 15 minutes, why the hell are we even debating it now?🤷 Look, the Ultras have never been a monolith—and they don't need to be—but if the group decides we're moving, we're moving. Period. We went, and that's that.🙂

At least now we finally know which idiot dragged the hired guns all the way out to San Jose.🙂
boldhound8 boldhound8 Regular
437 messages
joined Oct 2007
#438 ·
April was a total mess back then😁 And these people would’ve had us running laps at Yankee Stadium just for fun😠

Taylor Morales2 said:Just some local guys from my neighborhood—not even hardcore fans, just regular supporters—ended up in the wrong place at the exact wrong time.... The cops were out that night just looking for excuses to crack skulls with batons the second they spotted any group of guys standing together.🙂

They probably would've blocked the road too, and you'd have to ask permission just to pass through.🙏 We survived two of those "ambushes," though some people didn't make it...
And near the National Zoo, we barely managed to duck off to the right at the last second. Anyone who kept going straight got flagged by the cops and absolutely wrecked...
velvetskipper52 velvetskipper52 Active Member
61 messages
joined Feb 2012
#439 ·
Anthony Wilson22 said:Ilurridze and Kouassi are out in San Jose with the Mamicevac Association... I can't see the image you're referring to. Could you please upload it or describe what's in it?...

?????
copperharbor02 copperharbor02 Active Member
93 messages
joined May 2013
#440 ·
Someone from the club needs to step up and explain this mess, and honestly, they probably need to explain why they're out drinking all over Chicago too.

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