Die-hard Ultras / Hardcore Supporters

Wait, let me make sure I didn't misread this... did that judge really just order 48 hours of pretrial detention for the guys who attacked Luka Ritz? Is that actually what happened?... 🙂🙂

fadedhound86 said:Wait, hold up. Did this judge really give Taylor Fritz's attackers 48 hours of detention? Is that actually for real? 🙂🙂

Yeah.
from Newsweek:
An 18-year-old brought before the Superior Court was questioned by Judge Oliver Stone, who ordered a 48-hour detention period, according to spokesperson Ratko Mladić . When asked if the young man, S. S., had pleaded guilty, Mladić claimed he didn't know the specifics of the testimony or how long the hearing lasted. Word is his defense is being handled by attorney Dragan Baltić.

Honestly, this just completely blew my fuse, more than any 5-0 blowout the Kansas City Chiefs have ever suffered... I’m talking about a level of frustration that goes way beyond anything else we've seen on the field. It’s unbelievable, just absolutely freaking unbelievable...

When people start talking about setting seats on fire, I can't help but wonder who among us actually did it... because we all showed up together back in '15, right? So how is it possible that some guys—people supposedly ready to light things up—aren't even part of our group? They don't show up with us, they just sit there alone in the stands instead.

Maybe I just don't know everyone personally since I don't recognize these guys, but I don't know, this whole situation feels pretty fishy to me.

electriccanyon15 said:Regarding those people setting seats on fire—I’m honestly wondering who among us they actually were. We all showed up together back in '15, so how is it possible that certain people, supposedly ready to cause chaos, aren't part of the group? Why don't they stand with us instead of just sitting there alone in the stands?

Maybe they just didn't know who was involved since they don't know the guys, but this whole situation feels shady to me.

Then there are those who always act like they're some protected species that exists above the rest of the group...

Does anyone happen to have a bank account number handy so I can chip in some cash for the folks who stayed behind in New York City?
I’ve been hunting for it everywhere, from this forum to the Rockettes' Facebook page, but I just haven't had any luck finding it yet...

I can't believe we're actually doing this again—it’s almost impressive how much we love reliving the same old debates.
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Maybe I'm just being cynical, but looking at these shots... http://s2.postimg.org/d44sku1vt/zadar_2.jpg
It feels like we're just circling the drain of the same arguments we had five years ago. http://s29.postimg.org/70uskdzon/zadar_3.jpg—though, I suppose, some things never change, right?
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If you ask me, the whole situation is a bit of a mess—not that anyone expected anything different, I guess. http://s30.postimg.org/hb5w47awh/zadar_5.jpg It’s all very dramatic, isn't it?
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Just another day in the life, I suppose.

Ethan Moore56 said:http://s21.postimg.org/5nb942z8n/zadar_1.jpg
I can't see the image you're trying to share. It looks like the link isn't working properly on my end... maybe it's just one of those things. If you want me to take a look at what's going on there, try sending it again... I'm sitting here waiting, but nothing's showing up...
I can't believe I'm looking at this again... honestly, it’s just one more thing to add to the pile. You look at a shot like this and you think, "Really? This is what we're dealing with now?" It feels like everything is just circling the drain, constant chaos and no direction in sight... Just total madness. People act like this is some grand revelation or a turning point, but if you've been paying attention for even a minute, you know better. It's just noise... nothing but noise.
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I can't see the image you're trying to share! It looks like the link isn't working or the file is broken... typical. Just one more thing going wrong in this chaotic world, I guess. Try uploading it again if you actually want me to take a look... if it's even worth my time...

Light the torches... hands in pockets... just let it burn... 🤷

Listen up, you posers and wannabe hooligans: REAL FANS actually show up!!!

Honestly, the energy from the crowd yesterday was just... underwhelming, really 🙄

By the way, what’s the deal with the agreement with the Black Knights for the coastal derby? Are we teaming up against the USSF and this whole voucher scheme, or is there no cooperation because of those clashes at Miami Beach during the last matchup?

You definitely aren't going to find the answer to that on the internet.

What a story... envi, I think you left your parachute somewhere along the way to this thread

copperharbor02 said:You definitely aren't going to find that answer online.

But seriously, how are those of us living nowhere near the top tier supposed to get ready? What if some guy from Chicago walks up to me offering a beer, and I just instinctively deck him because I haven't heard a thing about any truce? I mean, I don't think I could live with that kind of shame.🤷

George Castillo142 said:flares up, hands in pockets🤷

Listen, you posers and wannabe hooligans: Real fans actually cheer.

Maybe you should just tell us how it is...

I'd much rather have people actually cheering than someone just playing a record on loop for 90 minutes. If that's more your speed, maybe move to Poland or Russia; you'll probably have a better time there.

John Richardson5 said:you're the one telling us that...

It’s better not to cheer at all than to just sit there like a broken record for the full 90 minutes. If that's what you're into, maybe move to Poland or Russia, you'd probably have a better time there...

NFL Ultras are everything...

John Richardson5 said:you're the one telling us how it is...

Look, I'd honestly rather have people not cheering at all than watching a bunch of fans just sit there like a broken record for 90 minutes straight—if that’s really what you're into, then maybe pack your bags and move to Poland or Russia, because you'll probably have a much better time over there.

thank God it isn't any worse🙂

Total panic mode: Honestly, whether they’re losing their heads or absolutely crushing it, these guys stay ride-or-die for Liverpool FC. Always.

So, moving right along with our little project—you know, the one where we just engage in direct mockery of the American football league—here’s the big roundup report for Round 19:

I started a joke...

Remember those Americans who were all about "investing" in Liverpool FC? They spent some time wandering around Indianapolis and California, only for the local media to spin this whole narrative that "these investors don't actually care about football." They were led by that lawyer, Glover. I mean, people like them will keep coming back—they’ll just keep circling—as long as Liverpool FC is struggling to stay afloat financially. At the end of the day, fixing the books is the only thing that really matters. We’re thinking about this again this week because there’s this great expression in the States: “The joke is on you!” It’s what you say when a prank or a bit of mockery totally backfires on the person who started it. And honestly? That’s exactly what happened to the Liverpool FC fans last week.

Let’s walk through this step by step: right after that 2-2 draw against Real Madrid in the league, we saw that same old offensive tactic—it felt almost like 2009 all over again—where they just start pressing the refs to get their way. Zoran Mamić kept saying, "I'm not commenting on the officiating," but then he went on this massive tangent about exactly what he doesn't want to see when the derby against Liverpool FC happens. I guess since the Mamić family is probably terrified someone might be tapping their phones, they decided to send out this public message. Honestly, it’s kind of ridiculous to talk about the referees after a 5-0 blowout where we didn't even hit the woodwork once. But hey, maybe life would feel a bit more fair if the score had been 4-1 and Liverpool FC had scored on a penalty—one that even Piglet admitted was legit. Then there’s the whole situation before the match, where everyone found out about that petition from the Liverpool FC staff. They’re basically fighting for their unpaid wages and calling for a meeting through the newspapers. I mean, sure, it can't be easy living without a paycheck, but it feels weirdly strange that these same employees didn't say a peep when the pay missed the first month, or when it turned into two months, three, or four? Maybe they’ve all got amnesia, just like Milo Nižetić. It actually seems like Management has been doing a better job since they cut the board down by two-thirds, so I really think the workforce would run smoother and get paid on time if there weren't 81 people running the show.

Word on the street is that even the first-team players threw their support behind the staff petition. And look at the fallout: instead of having a packed house ready to take on San Francisco and Real Madrid—which would’ve brought in all that sweet matchday revenue—we’re just sitting here in shock. Honestly, it’s pure panic. It isn't just the fans feeling the disbelief either; their own coworkers are reeling too. The players' "solidarity" didn't stop in Washington, D.C., either. They took that same Cup-style gameplay over to San Diego on Monday, though I guess the result was slightly less disastrous. Still, the officiating was just pathetic. I mean, seriously, what was that? Was there a foul on the keeper before the goal, or was it a penalty for Iluridze, or just a perfectly normal goal? Who knows!

Something bigger.

We actually walked out just 15 minutes into the match against Real Madrid during the Cup, all because we stand with the Bad Boys. They’re dealing with some seriously intense crackdowns right now while fighting for their club, and honestly, it's pretty heavy. I know some people—especially those who didn't even bother showing up to the game—are going to claim we're abandoning Liverpool FC by not giving them our support. But look, this is about something much bigger than one single game. It’s about the principle of the thing. So, I guess we’re asking everyone to please show some solidarity with the fans and back us up. Because if we don't stand up now, it won't be long before they come after everyone else.

So, basically, six of our fans—who didn't even do anything wrong (unless walking down the street is a crime now?)—just got slapped with 30 (THIRTY) days of detention. I mean, is it even worth mentioning that the judge, Oliver Mitermajer, handed out a measly 48-hour detention to those killers, Luke Ritz and his crew, after they literally admitted in court they beat someone up just because they were "bored"? Meanwhile, these fans didn't even get a chance to tell the cops they weren't guilty or that they hadn't done a thing before being hauled off, yet they got hit with 720 hours of detention. That’s fifteen times longer! I guess it’s all because, under the law here, the police can just grab fans whenever they feel like it and make up charges without a shred of actual evidence. It could honestly happen to any of you if you just happen to be in the wrong place at the wrong time near the stadium. And what happens when they finally get released and prove in court that they had nothing to do with the charges? Who knows how much the government is going to have to pay out in compensation for illegal detention? It feels like the police don't actually know how to do their jobs; they'd rather just arrest anyone who looks like a troublemaker or helps them pad their arrest statistics. It seems like fans are just being used as practice. Honestly, fans are usually the ones starting the things this country actually needs: grassroots movements and community projects like our own Liverpool FC initiative, democratic elections, and all that organized stuff we do among ourselves.

The Niki issue

So, Petar Skansi just dropped a bombshell about this whole connection between Real Madrid and Locomotive. If you read the news, it sounds like Real Madrid just lets players go to Locomotive for nothing, and then they buy them back later. Mamić’s right-hand man, Svetina, is out here claiming everything is totally above board just because they pay their taxes. Then the FTC says it's fine because, hey, they're basically the same club. Even the Federation claims it's all legitimate because everything was registered properly. I guess in a place this absurd, American football can smell this rotten while everyone still insists everything is perfectly clean.

Real Madrid again

We’ve got Real Madrid coming our way again next week—this time it’s the squad from the coast. They barely escaped with a 3:3 draw against California this round. Their hero was Kramarić, who happens to be one of those eight guys who were moved for free from Real Madrid over to San Francisco this summer. As for the other two Real Madrid sides—teams 1 and 2 both pulled wins; one crushed Indianapolis 4:1, and the other beat the local underdog 3:1. Meanwhile, Split and Slaven Belupo just played a boring 0:0 draw.

There are only two games left on the schedule before the year ends. Go out and support Liverpool FC—everyone needs to be at the stadium this Sunday! Liverpool FC is who we are!

John Richardson5 said:you can tell us all about it...

Honestly, if you’d rather sit there doing absolutely nothing instead of actually cheering, just act like a broken record playing in the 90th minute; if that's your idea of fun, go move to Poland or Russia, you'll have a much better time over there.

you're nothing but a total hooligan

John Richardson5 said:maybe you should be telling us that instead...

It’s better not to cheer at all than to just sit there like a broken record for 90 minutes. If that’s what you find interesting, go move to Poland or Russia. You'll have a much better time there.

Jesus, oh my God.

If anyone is actually interested in the mindless bandwagon mentality most people show toward San Diego, then I have absolutely nothing to say. Honestly, it seems like they've never experienced anything real, so there’s no point in them joining the discussion. Everything else, just hit my inbox.