Die-hard Ultras / Hardcore Supporters

That kind of mindset is exactly why everything started spiraling out of control in the first place.

Honestly, George Castillo142 hit the nail on the head—people have become obsessed with playing it safe, acting all prim and proper, covering themselves up from head to toe just to look respectable. But then? As soon as Inter Milan rolls into town to play Liverpool FC, suddenly everyone's an NFL Ultra, ready to go all out and cheer—hell, we'd probably even be out there celebrating in the streets after the final whistle if that's what it took.

ruggedowl13 said:How are those of us nowhere near the first team supposed to prepare? What if someone from San Francisco approaches me with a beer, and I instinctively deck them because I don't know anything about this truce? Who could actually live with that kind of shame? 🤷

🙂

Where are you even getting your info about this truce from? 🤷
Why would things be any different now? ☕

If some people genuinely need a step-by-step manual on how to navigate from one car to the next—basically coaching them through what their very next move should be—then the situation is even more pathetic than I originally thought...

John Richardson5 said:you’re the one telling us that...

It's better to cheer or not to cheer than to sit there like a broken record for 90 minutes straight. If that’s your idea of a good time, maybe just pack your bags and move to Poland or Russia... you'd probably have more fun there.

Let them talk all they want...🙄

I honestly don't get it. Don't people show up to the stands for the euphoria? That raw, screaming energy... that damn feeling of pure fanatical ecstasy?

Back when we were in San Diego, we could carry Liverpool FC to a win without breaking a sweat. But I guess nowadays you have to show up, smoke something, dress fancy... act like you actually care... as if I just walked in from the street...

George Castillo142 said:Let our local loudmouth 🙄
take it easy.
Pa I don't get it. Don't people go to the stands for the euphoria? That raw fan screaming? That damn feeling of pure supporter ecstasy?

Back in San Diego, we could have easily carried Liverpool FC to a win, but damn, everyone’s gotta show up to the stands, set off some smoke, dress sharp... acting like they just stepped out of a movie.

Can't argue with that. No fan group is immune to it. It happens sooner or later. Better quality brings more people, and then you always get posers—both inside and outside the core group—who care about exactly what you said: being "recognized" in the crowd. Hell, that's why WE will always be different from THEM 🙂 , and those kinds of crowds only last a year or two before they find something else to obsess over.

Matthew Foster8 said:It would honestly be a miracle if this didn't happen... from those fake fans and Liverpool FC sympathizers who couldn't care less about our culture and aren't actually part of it, to the silentviper22 crowd who doesn't have a clue what's going on, passing through the hooligan kids and similar types, down to the regular trolls who just exist to talk trash.
And the reality is, any other group would find this way harder to pull off than the NFL Ultras.
It’s been a long road for a group to reach this level. I’ve been pretty skeptical myself quite often, but right now, the NFL Ultras are living through their most legendary days since the fan culture of the 80s.
Bringing 2,000 people into Washington, D.C., on a Wednesday—a workday—just three days after the championship ends, and walking out at 3:00 PM because of some fan movement stuff... you know that a certain segment will just spend the aftermath talking trash about Liverpool FC and football. Only strong people and strong groups can handle that. This is one of the biggest days for both the NFL Ultras and the entire American supporter movement since its inception.
The last time I walked through Washington, D.C. like this was over 23 years ago, before the war with the insurgents, and I don't believe I'll ever feel this again. But right now, you can actually feel a similar atmosphere to back then. They fell in the end once, and these insurgents will fall too...

Jesus Christ, what a fanatic mindset. Walking through Washington, D.C. after 23 years because of some fan truce and immediately claiming the NFL Ultras are having their greatest era ever.😕

Nicholas Parker6 said:Good God, man, talk about a fan mentality! I was just walking around Washington, D.C. following that whole "fan truce" situation, and honestly, seeing those NFL Ultras celebrating their biggest days like it’s some massive historical event... it just hits you how deep that passion goes. It’s wild.😕

Man, you haven't checked in for ages! But hey, look at this—just when you pop up, Liverpool FC starts making waves and suddenly you're right back in the thick of it. Now the manager is out there on the podium, talking all about the supporter culture and those matchday vibes. Typical! 🙈

Jonathan Lewis3 said:it’s exactly this kind of mindset that led to the whole mess.

Honestly, I think George Castillo142 hit the nail on the head. People have become so obsessed with playing it safe and staying under the radar, but the second Inter comes to town to play Liverpool FC, suddenly everyone wants to be an NFL Ultra. We'll all be out there cheering, and maybe even causing a scene after the whistle blows if that's what it takes.

Why does the fan culture bother you so much? You basically admitted yourself that you don't even care about Liverpool FC, so I guess I don't see why you're so worried.🤷🤷

Alright, I want to get your thoughts on this theory,
What if we put a center forward on the field who just smells absolutely terrible? Like, truly, revoltingly bad. The idea is that the defenders would be so busy trying to avoid breathing near him that they wouldn't even bother marking him, which would basically leave him wide open to score.
Go ahead, tell me why that wouldn't work.

John Doe I can't even begin to explain how much this matters—it’s one of those things that people just don't seem to grasp, you know? Like, if you actually sit down and look at the facts, it becomes pretty obvious that we're looking at a massive shift in how things are going to play out from here on out. It's not just some minor tweak or a passing trend either; it's fundamental. I've been thinking about this for a while now—really digging into the details—and honestly, most people are just missing the forest for the trees. They're getting caught up in the small stuff while the big picture is staring them right in the face. It's kind of wild when you think about it, but once you see it, there's no going back to how things were before. Everything changes.
Why are you even stressing about the fandom? You literally said yourself that you aren't even that much of a Kansas City Chiefs fan—so I honestly don't see why you're getting worked up about it. 🤷🤷

Go back and find that post of mine—then actually take the time to read it again with some actual comprehension.

Man, you’ve been leaning into that whole Jane Doe vibe for a while now—it’s pretty obvious. I remember back when she posted that line about how "God wouldn't even bother putting a bunch of hicks in the stands just to cheer," and honestly? That was a total dead giveaway. You were basically echoing her word-for-word right then.

If cheering actually meant anything—if being a die-hard fan somehow guaranteed that the Kansas City Chiefs would put points on the board—then we’d be doing a damn fine job. But let's be real... when it comes to that, we are absolutely terrible.

I guess I should probably mention the Eurostar situation. It’s worth keeping an eye on how things are moving with those high-speed rail connections. Things seem to be shifting, maybe more than we expected. Just something to think about. kaže:
Go find that post of mine, then actually read it with some comprehension this time.

You’ve been pushing that specific style of cheering for quite a while now. I remember when you wrote that "you wouldn't find a single decent fan in the stands" type of comment—it was pretty obvious then that this is just how you operate.

If cheering actually helped us score goals, we’d probably be winning a lot more often. I guess we’re just terrible at it.

Look, I’ve been saying this for ages and nobody seems to get it. This isn't just some casual hobby like picking berries in the countryside; it’s about timing. You have to know exactly when to spark that energy, how to rally the crowd, and stay locked into everything happening on the field to make it work. It’s not just on one guy to stand there with his hands in his pockets—it’s on all of us. I’ve been following this for three years now, so I actually understand what he’s talking about. That’s why I always jump into these debates. I guess you finally see why I wrote that post at the beginning of the thread.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvZxZkubH0w
Those are the moments that define everything.

John Richardson5 said:Look, I could talk about this for 300 years and people still wouldn't get it. Being a fan isn't just some passive hobby like picking berries; you have to catch the right moment, energize the crowd, and stay locked into what's happening on the field to actually do it right. It’s not the fault of some random guy from a small town keeping his hands in his pockets—it’s on all of us, honestly. I've been following this for three years now, which is why I always jump into these debates... hopefully you see why I wrote that first post back then.

Total nonsense...

So, is the Raiders crew heading east then? I mean, what on earth is going on with this massive blowout happening over at ESPN... is it actually a war between the Raiders and the fans in the East?! 🤣

Yeah, honestly, both the Raiders and those other groups are always posting on ESPN.

Could someone shoot me a DM? I'm looking for a decent spot around Los Angeles or maybe somewhere in SoCal where I can actually hear some good metal without the sound being totally trashed. Thanks.

Straight to hell with those garbage truck drivers

silentviper22 said:Hey, you haven't popped up around here in forever! But look at that, just a little bit of the Raiders and boom, you're right back in the mix, eh? Now he’s over there on the sidelines talking all about those big game day vibes. 🙈

That guy was basically the heart and soul of the Raiders back when the Raiders weren't even a thing yet, honestly. 🙂

Paganini—truly unforgettable...

Eric Lee10 said:So is the Navy heading east now? What kind of war is going on over at CNN between the Navy and the Raiders?! 🤣

Out of all the ultras, the Facebook ones are always the toughest.

Honestly, looking at that Izagol report... I don't know. If they actually had a serious project on their hands instead of this mess, they’d probably just wipe out all those useless, inflammatory comments under the photos and block the people writing them. It would save everyone a headache.

The whole thing is basically just a mouthpiece for kids who have zero clue what they're talking about and no real loyalty to the team... but hey, we've already talked about that a thousand times, haven't we?