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Trolling on Example

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Participants darkmarlin16Eric Fox7Michael Gonzalez2brightpilot6Patrick MartinHenry Lee84Matthew Anderson4Anthony Jackson2Steven Wood72graniteangler31ruggedjackal46Michelle Palmer6Robert TorresJacob MorganRyan Vaughn7graniteheron132rustydrifter10
darkmarlin16 darkmarlin16 VeteranOP
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#21 ·
Anthony Jackson2 said:honestly, we’ve basically got a solution ready to go in the form of some kind of workaround, we just need to iron out a few more details and then we can launch the whole topic out there. We’re just stuck right now trying to agree on what exactly we’re going to tolerate and how we should actually set everything up.

So why hasn't anyone even touched the thread specifically made for this then?
And why are you just ghosting all the private messages?
Also, why isn't trolling being punished yet?

The whole idea of disabling PDFs... Soccer is still miles ahead of that stuff. But hey, thanks for the offer, 👍

ha-ha

I’m pretty damn sure I’d be doing a way better job as a moderator than some of the current crowd, seriously. Having one decent moderator is infinitely better than having none at all. 🙂
graniteangler31 graniteangler31 Member
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#22 ·
darkmarlin16 said:11:11 🙏

darkmarlin16 said:kbkk

darkmarlin16 said:Deportivo La Coruña's away kit🙏

darkmarlin16 said:hm

darkmarlin16 said:they've got a solid attack☕

darkmarlin16 said:let me just call out our official record keeper

darkmarlin16
you absolute morons, what would the lineup even look like if we did this?

And then you have the nerve to come at people after all that?
ruggedjackal46 ruggedjackal46 Regular
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#23 ·
Matthew Anderson4 said:ZZ just slapped everyone down with pure logic and eloquence (logic + eloquence = constructive debate), effectively keeping this Example thread alive for at least another three days. Now, we all deserve a little break.

Looks like he actually managed to pull an external hard drive out of the trash. Once he starts dumping gigabytes of "constructive" insight into this Example thread, he’s going to absolutely choke the life out of the whole discussion.🤦
Anthony Jackson2 Anthony Jackson2 Regular
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#24 ·
darkmarlin16 said:Then why isn't there an answer in the thread meant for that?
Why aren't you answering private messages?
Why hasn't trolling been penalized yet?

because repeating myself is pointless
because—thank God—I don't have to
it was way too constructive. The fact that you can't tell the difference between trolling and off-topic chatter is a separate issue. Not penalizing off-topic posts on Example right now is just a moderator decision.

A good moderator is better than none at all. 🙂

not really🤣
Henry Lee84 Henry Lee84 Member
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joined Feb 2009
#25 ·
If you guys are too scared to just start your own thread about Example, I promise you on behalf of all us haters that we won't lift a finger to join in ☕ Coefficient for anything under 50 posts is 1.01 ☕ Either grow some balls and shut us down
graniteangler31 graniteangler31 Member
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#26 ·
darkmarlin16 said:Having a decent moderator on hand beats having absolutely nobody at all. 🙂

Basically, this is how darkmarlin16 views the absolute joke that is modern football:

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And here is how everyone else on this forum sees the total circus that is modern football:

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darkmarlin16 darkmarlin16 VeteranOP
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#27 ·
Anthony Jackson2 said:because there’s zero point in repeating myself
since, thank God, I don't have to
it was way too constructive for its own good. The fact that you can't tell the difference between someone trolling and just going off-topic is a whole different issue entirely. Right now, whether or not they punish off-topic posts on Example is basically just whatever the moderators decided to agree on behind closed doors.

nah, it isn't 🤣

that, that 🤣 🙏

Nica, are you even reading this? 🙏
Michael Gonzalez2 Michael Gonzalez2 Newcomer
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#28 ·
brightpilot6 said:Of course it matters. You're trying to micromanage a conversation you aren't even part of. You've never once participated in it, either. And nobody is forcing you to read it. It's not like your neighbors are screaming at each other every night right outside your window where you can't escape it.

Whatever. It’s not important. What matters is this thread, and this thread is about the trolling happening in the Example league. Just because I’m not posting constantly doesn't mean I can't call things out; plenty of us are lurking here reading. The fact is, people are trolling. It's obvious. Like I said before. You're just trying to steer the conversation somewhere else, which is pointless because this topic is strictly about the trolling in the Example league.

brightpilot6 said:I'm sorry if you didn't quite catch that post. It wasn't even that complicated, really. It just had a simple thesis and maybe three or four arguments to back it up.

If nobody had understood him, I might have actually taken the criticism to heart. But a whole crowd of people got exactly what he was saying. Even some folks outside the Real Madrid vs Barcelona circle seemed to follow.

A larger circle of people? Sure, if you mean the five or six people actually backing you up. Sorry, but that’s not exactly a crowd, and it’s hardly an argument for anything. I guess this just proves you don't really know how to have a constructive conversation.

brightpilot6 said:You're trolling. There are maybe twenty posts total about Cristiano Ronaldo's bag. That's like one page of content, even considering how much everyone was obsessing over the Example lately. I don't get why you're exaggerating things by 400 or 500%, especially if the situation is actually that bad on its own.

I'm not trolling. You're just dodging the question again. Is this La Liga thread always full of trolls? Yeah, it is, so why are you denying it? You keep backing out whenever I bring it up. I guess it’s just too hard for you to admit that everyone is overreacting.

Nobody is exaggerating here. You guys are just twisting the argument to suit yourselves. It’s pretty simple, really, but you seem intent on making a mountain out of a molehill. I guess some people just can't handle being told they're wrong.
brightpilot6 brightpilot6 Veteran
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#29 ·
Ashley Kern said:A larger circle of people? Sure, if you mean the handful of people supporting you—maybe five or six of you. I’m sorry, but that isn't a "larger circle," nor does it serve as much of an argument. With that comment, you've simply shown that you aren't capable of having a constructive conversation.

A larger circle than the group of people who actually provided me with feedback? In reality, the only one who disagreed was Henry Lee84, and even then, it wasn't due to a lack of comprehension, but rather because he disputes the veracity of certain facts.

Admittedly, if I weigh those ten people offering positive feedback against a potential audience of six billion readers, I suppose I can't really claim to be speaking to a massive crowd.

If something wasn't clear to you, why not just ask? When clarity is lacking, it is only natural that it might come across as trolling or provocation.

As for the matter of constructive conversation, I find myself asking you again—in what specific part of this discussion have I failed to hold my own? I am asking you to provide a concrete explanation of where exactly you believe I haven't proven my point. Which syllogism or which particular fact strikes you as weak? Until you can elaborate on those details for me, how am I supposed to offer you a more detailed response?

Ashley Kern said:I'm not trolling. You are avoiding the question again. Is there constant trolling in the La Liga thread? Yes, and why do you deny it? You constantly dodge the issue and refuse to address it. Is it really so difficult for you to admit that you are exaggerating?

It is simply not true that there is constant trolling. That is a falsehood, and you know it. It is true that there is more mutual ribbing here than in other threads, but that is merely a reflection of the sheer number of supporters for the two biggest clubs—the most intense rivalry in the world today—and perhaps a slightly more emotional display of loyalty than we see in other rivalries. For heaven's sake, the El Clásico rivalry is intense enough to cause actual skirmishes in the Middle East; what other international derby can say the same?

Every thread is a mirror of the current state of its respective league or club, whether it's La Liga, the MLS, the Premier League, or the Dinamo Chicago thread.

And yes, there is more trolling and off-topic chatter in the La Liga thread during the off-season when there are no matches, but if that weren't the case, the thread would be practically dead—much like the other league threads—unless we count darkmarlin16 following Deportivo La Coruña with his dry one-liners.

But that is just La Liga; it is what it is. And that very nature is what has drawn in many users who didn't previously post here regularly. Yet, no one talks about that—instead, the focus remains on those "who can't write," whoever they may be.

If an alternative is desired, there is no problem there; we have suggested it many times. However, if a separate thread were to open, I would hope that all those currently making a fuss would have enough intellectual honesty to stay away from it, choosing instead to stick to the "normal" topics. Those topics will likely only see twenty or thirty posts in an entire representative week—and that's assuming the people who usually don't contribute decide to chime in.
ruggedjackal46 ruggedjackal46 Regular
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#30 ·
Constructive discussions don't just happen by accident; they’re built by the people actually participating in them. When you start posting thoughtful, useful content, you slowly set a tone that encourages everyone else to step up their game too. So, if the lack of quality examples is getting under your skin, maybe just roll up your sleeves and help build that atmosphere yourself? It’s certainly much easier to sit back, get bitter, and bark orders at the moderators to fix everything—as if they can solve a cultural problem without lifting a finger—while you refuse to move a single muscle.
Michelle Palmer6 Michelle Palmer6 Regular
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#31 ·
I’ll be keeping my constructive posts tucked away somewhere else until things finally settle down here.
Robert Torres Robert Torres Active Member
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#32 ·
The whole point is that La Liga, with this exact lineup of players, should be a legit topic where people can actually debate, banter, write something useful, or even troll a little bit... IF the vast majority of regular visitors—specifically the die-hard Real Madrid and FC Barcelona fans—actually had the decency to stop arguing about stupid nonsense, like whether Cristiano Ronaldo carries a briefcase or a gym bag, or just move those dumb comments to another thread... that's pretty much it for me.

btw, looking at the regulars here, I’ve been around long enough to tell you things used to be way worse. That’s my biggest gripe, honestly; everything could be so much better if people stopped constantly fighting over absolute garbage.

ruggedjackal46 said:Constructive posts come from the users themselves, who gradually build an atmosphere that encourages others to participate meaningfully. So, if you're annoyed by the lack of quality, just put in the work to improve the thread. It’s much easier to sit back, act bitter, and demand the moderators fix things when they can't solve everything, without actually lifting a finger yourselves.

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brightpilot6 brightpilot6 Veteran
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#33 ·
Robert Torres, if you were the one who started this thread, I probably wouldn't say a word. I'll be the first to admit that my own son is driving me up the wall right now, though I realize things aren't always as black and white as they seem. ruggedjackal46 laid out his reasoning quite clearly, didn't he? And besides, we are finally on the verge of seeing that solution we've all been calling for...
Jacob Morgan Jacob Morgan Member
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#34 ·
What kind of nonsense is this? For instance, there’s nothing even remotely constructive happening here compared to other threads, except maybe there's just more trolling and off-topic chatter, which I guess is exactly how we like it anyway. ☕

And then you have this one person claiming that ZZ and Tore can't hold their own in a debate 🤣🤣

If that isn't blatant trolling, I don't know what is.

I might even go as far as to say that Example has somehow engineered some of the most convolutedly complex scenarios in all of soccer, where the main protagonists happen to be all these trolls we see here (plus a few others, obviously).

Bite me. ☕

And yeah, they actually have the nerve to call Dabo a troll, too. The guy isn't always around, but whenever someone needs to be shut down with a solid argument, he always seems to show up. People like him are always welcome, I suppose. ☕
Anthony Jackson2 Anthony Jackson2 Regular
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#35 ·
darkmarlin16 said:yeah, exactly 🤣 🙏

Nica, you actually reading this? 🙏

Nica! Nica! 🙂

How old are you? Five? Need to call Mom when things don't go your way? 🤷

Nobody's forcing you to read or post on Example if you don't like it. 🤷

There's also an ignore button—use it for anyone who bothers you. What's the big deal? 🤷
Michael Gonzalez2 Michael Gonzalez2 Newcomer
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#36 ·
Jacob Morgan said:What kind of nonsense is this? For example, there isn't even anything less. constructive It’s the same story on the other threads, just with more trolling and off-topic nonsense. I guess that's just how we like it. ☕

Nothing else matters, as long as there's coffee.

Jacob Morgan said:And then there's this one person claiming that ZZ and Tore can't even hold their own in an argument. 🤣🤣

Nice arguments. Since you're on their side, I guess it’s only natural that you’d back them up, but I doubt anyone actually buys what you're selling. People still read these threads, though, and they can see how much this whole debate feels like trolling rather than anything constructive. One guy writes a massive essay with barely any substance, while the other just needs to be the center of attention—making sure he gets the last word. If he doesn't, he just starts rambling nonsense.

Jacob Morgan said:And yeah, they’re still out here calling out dabija for trolling. Look, the guy isn't online twenty-four seven, but whenever there's an actual argument that needs winning, he somehow shows up. I guess those kinds of people are always welcome around here. ☕

This is peak insanity. 🙏 🤣

Yeah, that guy is in a league of his own. He actually thinks Liverpool isn't the biggest club in England compared to Manchester United, and he clearly doesn't care about trophies. Wait, he actually went as far as claiming Arsenal FC is a bigger club than Liverpool FC, even though the Reds have five Champions League titles and they have zero. I guess logic just isn't his thing. 🙏

If I remember correctly, when that debate kicked off, he claimed "everyone presented their arguments." But that guy you’re calling Dabo? He didn't offer a single actual point. Feel free to go back and check. Honestly, it might be a good idea to show him how this works, because the guy clearly doesn't know how to build an argument—which he proved during that whole discussion. I mean, just look at his posts in the Premier League thread; there was nothing there. Sorry, but posts like that are just a joke. And he's got plenty of them to throw around.

Just like mah11, ultramusic, and bayernfan—all those kids who take this whole thing way too seriously.

On the other hand, you guys have way more experience, so I guess you know exactly how to troll. It’s pretty obvious—you're constantly doing it. I have to admit, though, you did a nice job camouflaging this thread just now. Look at how everyone just lost their minds. 🙏
brightpilot6 brightpilot6 Veteran
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#37 ·
I'll be damned if this isn't Ajmonaprid 🤣

We really managed to drop the ball this time, didn't we?
Ryan Vaughn7 Ryan Vaughn7 Active Member
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#38 ·
darkmarlin16 was just selling you a pipe dream. He might be able to spot the issues in an example, but that’s not really something the mods can step in and fix whenever they feel like it. Feel free to lock this.
darkmarlin16 darkmarlin16 VeteranOP
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#39 ·
Anthony Jackson2 said:Let's go! Let's freaking go! 🙂

How old are you even? You're like five years old or something, so what, you gotta call your mom every single time something goes sideways? 🤷

Look, nobody’s actually forcing your hand to sit there and read or write anything on Example if it doesn't click with you, you know? It's totally up to you. 🤷

Look, there’s also the ignore button, which you can basically just aim at anyone who's getting on your nerves. Honestly, what's even the big deal? 🤷

Exactly, man. I’m just sitting here waiting for some high-quality posts from people like TJ, the UN, Blake, or the Professor... that's the kind of stuff I actually want to read.

I am definitely not interested in following some troll's example.

Look, Madridista was actually a super constructive guy to have around here, and even though he was a die-hard Real Madrid fan, I’ve got nothing but respect for him.
Anthony Jackson2 Anthony Jackson2 Regular
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#40 ·
just put the rest on ignore 🤷

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