F1 Monaco GP - May 26, 2013

So, who’s actually to blame for this massive gap? Is it just Lujo—or is it the guys sitting on the pit wall? Either way, even that six-second margin is way too much when you consider how long it takes them to actually execute a strategy change.

I watched that bit you were talking about too
I didn't quite wrap my head around half of it 😬

But that part at the end—the idea that he was bleeding time because he was braking way too early, time he otherwise wouldn't have lost
even when you factor in that double pit stop

Hmm...🤔..I guess? Honestly, I'm not even sure anymore 😁

Richard Vaughn62 said:So who's actually to blame for that massive gap? Is it him or the guys on the pit wall? Honestly, even that 6-second window is way too much considering how long it takes them to actually pull off a change.

Both of them...🤣

1. They told him to leave a 6-second gap, which is pretty vague nonsense since a pit stop takes about 3 seconds. A 3-second gap would've been plenty.

2. He went and left an 11-second gap just to be safe.😁

The whole thing is a mess because, all in all, Lewis was the one they should have brought in on lap 30, and Rosberg on lap 31...
Everything would've worked out perfectly.
Even if the Red Bull Racing cars had caught up to Hamilton, he could've slowed down enough for Rosberg to grab a coffee and still get back before him.😁
But nope, they couldn't pass him anyway thanks to the SC.😂

Instead, they decided to go for that double stack on lap 31. What a joke.😍

All in all, I guess Rosberg was more worried about testing than actually winning the race...
Was there really no one among those big-shot bosses capable of making a sensible decision?🤣

darkmarlin16 said it was going to go down exactly like that—just a bunch of old-timers making noise, nothing but weak stuff 🙂

do you guys remember 🤣😁

Emily Patel64 said:Joza said it was going to go down exactly like this—just a bunch of old ladies and a weak kid. 🙂

Do you guys remember 🤣😁

Yeah, but he also claimed Mercedes would be absolute garbage. That was back when I predicted Vettel would be fighting Hamilton and Rosberg for the title before he even dealt with Button and Perez.🤣

He called it—that supposed "secret" testing phase that nobody actually understood, let alone knew how they even justified it or by what authority 🤣 they pulled it off 🤣
.
But honestly, you can't even blame him; nobody really saw this coming, especially not when someone as soft as a marshmallow was expected to stumble this hard 🤣😢

No way 😕

🤷

hihi 😁😁

Look, let's be honest—they've basically had a complete moral meltdown over the last few days and weeks. It's true.
But I was actually talking about the "softies" (the noble ones, like Perez)—this? This is just pure trash. You aren't following me at all. 🙂

Anyway, even if you think Perez has gone off the rails—and honestly, looking at the current state of things, it's hard not to be unimpressed—
he’s actually stepping up and defending the honor of the softies.
Nes is going to be finished because of them. 😁😁

And PS, don't hold your breath, by the way—he'll be back eventually. 😢

Emily Patel64 said:Yeah, obviously. He'll be back. 😢

He owes me a massive favor, so he’s probably just laying low.😬🤣

What’s the final verdict on this testing situation? Are we looking at some ridiculous loophole where everyone gets away scot-free, or are there actually going to be penalties—or maybe they'll just grant everyone three extra days to play around with the new Pirelli tires? 😍

And honestly, screw this season where McLaren seems to escape every single penalty... I guess they're so mediocre that even punishing them feels like a waste of time. 🤣

Like I said...
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/107746

Check this out. Now Pirelli is actually begging for mid-season testing, otherwise they might just have to pack up and leave Formula 1 entirely.😁

All in all, I’m starting to think this whole thing is just a manufactured farce. Wouldn't it be better if they just brought back testing?☕

And what exactly would have to happen for refueling to make its comeback? 😁

stormybadger8 said:Like I said before...
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/107746

Now look at this. Even Pirelli is calling for mid-season testing, otherwise they might actually be forced out of Formula 1.😁

All in all, it’s starting to feel like this whole thing is just an artificial farce. Wouldn't it make sense to bring testing back?☕

Who do you think lost the most when testing was banned?

We're strong. We're Ferrari. ☕

It’s not about who got hit... it’s about who came out on top. 😉

The reality is, once testing starts back up, the big dogs are going to be Ferrari, Red Bull, Mercedes, and maybe McLaren—assuming Michael doesn't bury them first.
As for the rest of the grid? They'll just be out there for a joyride, basically like Marussia, trailing miles behind those top four.

We all know the damage that testing bans have done to Ferrari.
It’s frustrating. You have a crew capable of clinching championships by September, yet because of these restrictions, Ferrari—arguably the most iconic and successful outfit in Formula 1 history—is being outpaced by certain "instant" teams that lack any real legacy or tradition.

So, how do we push back? We need to bring testing back.
How? Subtly. Ideally, we let someone else do the heavy lifting for us.
Who could help? Our closest neighbor.

Imagine if our neighbor developed tires that were:
a) perfectly optimized for Ferrari
b) such a mystery to everyone else that they’re forced to scramble for more testing time.

It’s a Win-win situation, provided you’re Ferrari.
A total disaster, if you’re anyone else.

It’s such a damn shame testing was banned from 1980 to 2000, otherwise they might actually have a few more titles under their belt...😁
It wasn't even the testing ban that hurt Ferrari; it was what it did to Michael Schumacher...

And honestly, what do you think bringing testing back would even do? It would just give Sebastian Vettel and Adrian Newey an even bigger chance to screw over Ferrari and Fernando Alonso.😍>
You’re completely missing the point. This isn't about Ferrari or Pirelli.😁

This is all about the relationship between Dietrich Mateschitz > Bernie Ecclestone > Pirelli.😁
Bottom line: you guys are doomed...just watch the tire manufacturer 😬...

EDIT:

Jason Campbell70 said:the most successful team in Formula 1 history

Titles won...
Ferrari:
Driver titles - 23.81%
Constructors' titles - 25.40 %

Red Bull Racing:
Driver titles - 37.50 %
Constructors' titles - 37.50 %

And by the end of this season, it'll be:
Red Bull Racing:
Driver titles - 44.44 %😍
Constructors' titles - 44.44 %😍

What kind of stats is Brawn GP even sitting on if you calculate it that way?

Alex Fowler5 said:What kind of stats does Brawn even have by those standards?

Brawn GP doesn't have any... so yeah, Brawn GP and "the future" are two completely different things.😁

stormybadger8 said:Besides, banning testing didn't really hurt Ferrari; it hurt Michael Schumacher...

To put it more accurately—testing is about developing the driver, not just the car. 😍

Alex Fowler5 said:What kind of stats does Brawn have according to that logic?

That’s one of the most brutal reality checks I've seen in a long time. 😂

Give me a break...😁
Anyway, how many titles does Fiat actually have under their belt, and what's their overall track record?😁

But back to the point....

Damn that Scuderia Ferrari🙂
Looking at the data now, I've got plenty to complain about. If it wasn't for Scuderia Ferrari, Vettel would've almost certainly been in the lead after that first pit stop.😳
He was only 22 seconds behind Rosberg when he pulled out of the pits.😳
Red Bull Racing nailed the two fastest pit stops with Webber and Vettel—they were literally a full second faster than Mercedes...
And Vettel didn't even get a chance to set a fast lap after exiting the pits; if he had, he probably would've taken the lead.

And honestly, looking back, that’s largely why Alonso lost ground too...
He’s always been at his best during those entry and exit laps, which Scuderia Ferrari basically killed for him.
If that hadn't happened, who knows? Maybe he could've jumped one or even two drivers ahead. Everyone was bunched up, and a fast entry/exit combined with a quick pit stop could have easily gained him a couple of positions.
Funny enough, Alonso and Kimi Räikkönen had the very next fastest pit stops.😳