Die-hard Ultras / Hardcore Supporters

I find myself agreeing with the black bag...
If we end up stripping down to our underwear, even FIFA might decide to pull the plug on us altogether...

casualsailor55, you just don't seem to grasp the reality of the situation here.😉

casualsailor55 said:How many years of elementary school have you actually completed?
You all are being complete hypocrites. You claim to care about the group standing outside the stadium, yet here we are! First, everyone jumps at the chance to donate money to help the club, but now you’re going to ruin everything with these flares? If you want to be consistent with that "Ultras" mentality you all brag about, then why don't you step up, collect the funds, and pay the fine out of your own pockets.

The people who haven't ruined this club aren't us; it's the crooks who have been looting it for fifteen years. We aren't going to kill the club with some flares. Is this really how an organization like the Ultras should be acting? If it weren't for their support, the club would be playing in a local county league because they wouldn't even qualify for bank loans. Why doesn't anyone hold them accountable for the current state of affairs? Why isn't there a lawsuit against management? It's because nobody can, because everyone is sucking up to them, and everyone is connected. We can't just sit by and let FIFA mock us or let them run things into the ground. I won't back down, so you might as well just give up. All your schooling is useless if you still don't grasp the significance of a simple flare. And yes, the group is standing right outside the stadium in ☕

I'm signing off because I honestly don't know who I'm even talking to anymore. Enjoy yourselves.

Is it just me, or does it feel like FIFA is constantly out to get us while everyone else gets a free pass?

Sam Mendoza said:it feels like FIFA is just out to get us while everyone else gets a pass, I guess.

If you ask me, those guys at the federation are probably pulling their strings, so how can you even tell?

Austin Ortiz92 said:I’m telling you, those guys at the Federation are totally drilling them, and you’re just sitting there wondering how it works.

Well, thanks for nothing, I guess. Marković is basically just casting a vote for Platinum to be president. Meanwhile, Smith is high up in the FIFA ranks and sits on all those empty FIFA committees. Both of them are pretty much running on Mamić's orders. It's like this whole mafia setup is interconnected, and the roots go way deeper than people realize.

casualsailor55 said:How many grades of elementary school have you actually finished?
You people are all just absolute hypocrites, seriously. For you, it’s all about "the group" standing outside the stadium!!! First, you're all out here scraping pennies together to help the team, and now you're gonna go and kill them off with this flare business?! If you want to be consistent for once in your lives, if you claim to have that true Ultras mentality, then step up, scrape the cash together, and pay the fine out of your own damn pockets.

What the hell are you even talking about?? What do you mean "Ultras mentality," and what does it have to do with whether it's the fans or the front office making the call?? Honestly, massive respect to this administration for the moves they're making... but the only way anyone should listen to advice like this is from an administration that would actually stand their ground—you know, the kind that would walk off the pitch if they had to, or pull out of the Major League, or FIFA competitions, or whatever else when they see the rules are being applied to them one way and to everyone else another way. And I don't care what anyone thinks about that. It starts with flares, then it'll be "you guys need to sit down," then it'll be something else because something always has to happen, because we're apparently "undesirable" types (talking about the club), and I just wish this management would finally stand up for their supporters who didn't do anything wrong... personally, I'd rather see us play in some local county league than stay in the Major League where we just constantly bow down to authority, only to be the first ones forced to change when someone else decides it's time. Or maybe we shouldn't even play in FIFA tournaments if it means sucking up to officials just to get through two qualifying rounds. If we stop lighting flares just because of stuff like this, then the Ultras aren't any different from your average American who's terrified of outsiders and thinks some foreigner is always smarter than they are... screw this fear-mongering. Are we really going to ditch our traditions just to please people who don't even want us around?? That's the only question worth asking here...

Well put.
The fan scene is at war with FIFA for a bunch of different reasons:
They’re taking a sport that used to belong to the working class and trying to turn it into some exclusive playground for the elite. They want to swap real fans for "consumers"—people who couldn't care less about the soul or the history of the game. Just typical Americans. You know the type: they roll up to an NBA game, drop a hundred bucks on a ticket, watch Rihanna perform at halftime, grab a burger, buy a jersey, and maybe propose on the Jumbotron. They aren't there for the team; they're just visiting a shopping mall that happens to have a field. It’s all about the money, and it kills everything that actually makes sports matter.
They just want to rip out this whole way of life tied to the game just so they can finish off football using some capitalist playbook. Grab everything that's worth something and let the rest rot. They're killing tradition, rewriting history, and turning everything into robots—forcing a version of the sport that never even existed. Why does the world love this game so much anyway? Football has a soul, but FIFA is sucking the life out of it every single day.
They don't even bother picking honest ways to crush fan culture anymore. They just cook up unconstitutional laws behind closed doors with the government. Look at what happened here in America: the Prime Minister and his whole cabinet basically had to bow down to Platinum during his visit to Washington, D.C. All that just to hear some lecture on how to "handle" the fans. Handle what exactly? Since when does the head of a football organization get to lecture the leaders of a SOVEREIGN nation??
Stop the crime already. Corruption, bribery, match-fixing, shady betting rings, crooked agencies—it’s all just the past, present, and future of soccer. And FIFA? They're mostly famous for pretending to fight racism. It's a joke. They sweep all those scandals under the rug where nobody ever sees them, acting like they aren't directly responsible, then try to wash their hands of it with some "Kick Racism Out of Football" slogan. You'll see those banners at the Champions League or Major League games, maybe even on the World Cup stage too. What a farce.
They don't care about the little guys, just the massive clubs pulling in the real cash. That’s why this whole Super League nonsense is blowing up—it's basically a way to sideline the Champions League and Europa League entirely. We're talking TV rights, ticket prices, all that. It's purely about the billions. When you look at the top 1% versus the other 99%, does it really surprise anyone that fans are going to war with them?

casualsailor55 said:How many grades of elementary school have you actually finished?
Honestly, you guys are all just being total hypocrites, acting like the group identity matters more than anything else!!! First, you're all out here collecting money to help support the Kansas City Chiefs, and now you’re gonna let them get shut down because of some flares?! If you're really going to be that dedicated to your "ultra" lifestyle, then maybe you should just chip in and pay the fine out of your own pockets.

Giving up on tradition and just folding under pressure—well, I guess that's just the typical American mindset, but the Black Knights can't afford to do that! Today it's a flare incident, but tomorrow you'll probably be told you aren't even allowed to stand up and cheer anymore, and you'll just be stuck sitting there eating popcorn instead.

The Kansas City Chiefs are dealing with some seriously rough financial issues because of how previous management handled things, bad contracts, and all sorts of shady money laundering by former officials, not because of one single flare the fans lit up!!

Dana Richardson89 said:Nicely put:
The fan movement is basically at war with FIFA for a bunch of different reasons:
- They’re trying to take a sport that’s always been for the regular people and turn it into some exclusive club for the elite. They want to take the working class—the actual backbone of the stadium crowds—and turn them into "consumers." People who couldn't care less about the symbolism, the romance, or what makes football special—basically just like those NBA types. You know the deal: they show up, drop a hundred bucks on a ticket, watch Rihanna perform at halftime, grab a burger, buy a jersey, propose on the Jumbotron, and act like they actually support the team. When you go to a game now, it feels more like walking into a shopping mall. They’re killing the raw emotion that makes this sport so damn loved. All just for the cash.
- They want to wipe out a whole way of life tied to football just so they can finish off the sport using pure capitalist logic. It’s "grab everything you can and let the rest rot." They’re destroying tradition, rewriting history, and turning everything into some robotic mess that football was never meant to be. Why does the world love this game so much?! Because football has a soul, and FIFA is sucking that soul dry day after day.
- And their methods for crushing the fan movement? They don't care—they'll even team up with governments to push through unconstitutional laws! Take a look at what happened here in the States: the Prime Minister and his ministers practically had to bow down to Platinum during his visit to Washington, D.C. In exchange, they had to sit there and listen to lectures on how to "fix" the fan problem! WHAT PROBLEM?! Since when does the head of a global sports org get to lecture the leaders of a SOVEREIGN NATION??
- They protect criminals! Corruption, bribery, match-fixing, betting scandals, shady agency deals—all that crap is the past, present, and future of the sport, yet FIFA loves to pose as the hero fighting racism. They sweep so many scandals under the rug that will never see the light of day—scandals they are directly or indirectly responsible for—and then try to wash their hands of it all with slogans like "KICK RACISM OUT OF FOOTBALL"... You'll see it on banners at the Champions League or the Europa League, maybe even at a World Cup...
- They don't give a damn about the small clubs; they only care about the giants bringing in the massive profits. That's why this whole Super League nonsense is such a big topic—a competition for just the richest clubs that would instantly trash the Champions League and the Europa League. We're talking TV rights, ticket prices, the works. This is where the billions are. When you realize it's the top 1% of the wealthy against the 99% of the "poor," you finally understand why fans are at war with them.

Everything you said is spot on.

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We weren't there, but we were there back in 1950
The kings of the stadium in 1950
You could take my life, but $27 not 1950
If I had two lives to live, I still wouldn't miss a single game

and thaaaaaat's ☕

feralwolf16 said:What are you even talking about?? What does "ultra mentality" have to do with anything? It doesn't matter if it's a fan group or the club itself. Honestly, props to this management for their recent moves... but the only way you should listen to advice like that is from a board that actually stands their ground. You know, the kind of leadership that would walk off the field or pull out of the MLS or FIFA competitions entirely if they saw rules being applied to us while everyone else gets a free pass. Seriously, forget that. First it’s the flares, then it’s telling us we have to sit down, then it's some other nonsense because apparently, we're "undesirable" as a club. I wish this front office would just finally stand up for their fans who didn't do anything wrong... personally, I'd rather see the Kansas City Chiefs play in a local county league than stay in the MLS just to keep bowing down to everyone else. Or better yet, skip the FIFA tournament entirely instead of sucking up to officials just to get past the preliminary rounds. If the Black Knights stop lighting flares because of stuff like this, then they aren't any different from your average American who's terrified of outsiders and thinks everyone else is smarter than them. Screw this fear-based respect. Should we really ditch our traditions just to please people who don't even want us around?? That's the only question worth asking here...

You're tripping, acting all military and tough like some action movie hero🤣 man, you're high again🤷

There's truth in what he's saying, but there's truth in what you're saying too. Things weren't quite as dark as some people are making them out to be. And let's be real, there are plenty of people who couldn't care less about the Kansas City Chiefs and just show up for the social scene... but that's a whole different conversation.

Dennis Davis97 said:All that military talk, acting all tough and disciplined like some elite unit... 🤣you're just firing off rockets again. 🤷

Look, I get where he's coming from, but honestly, I think you have a point too. It’s not quite as bleak as the doom-and-gloom crowd wants to paint it, you know? And let's be real—there's a massive chunk of people out there who couldn't care less about the Kansas City Chiefs; they just lurk in the group chat to see the drama unfold... but that’s a whole different conversation entirely.

What rocket are we even talking about?? I wasn't hanging around the stadium if you're referring to that thing that flew in... and by the way, there are tons of people—way more than this lot, honestly, if you count the ones just drifting along—who claim to swear by the Chiefs but wouldn't drop a single cent on them, so what does that even have to do with anything? 😉...

Dana Richardson89 said:Well written:
The fan movement is at war with FIFA for several reasons:
They’re taking a sport that was built by the working class and trying to repackage it for the high rollers. It’s a joke. They want to take the everyday fans—the people who actually live and breathe this game—and turn them into nothing more than mindless "consumers." These new types don't care about the history, the grit, or the soul of the sport. They just want an experience they can buy. Think about it like the NBA crowd. You see these people show up, drop a hundred bucks on a ticket, watch Rihanna perform at halftime, grab a burger, buy a jersey, and maybe even propose to their partner on the Jumbotron. They claim to support the team, but they aren't really there for the club; they're there for the spectacle. By the time the whistle blows, you haven't even gone to a stadium—you've basically just taken a detour through a shopping mall. They are systematically killing the raw emotion that makes sports worth watching. And why? All for the almighty dollar.
They’re trying to rip out a whole way of life—something deeply tied to the game—just so they can finish off football using pure, cold capitalism. It’s simple, really: grab everything of value, strip it bare, and leave the rest to rot. They’re gutting tradition, rewriting history, and turning the sport into some kind of automated, soulless machine. It’s being forced into a mold it was never meant to fit. I have to wonder, though: why does this game command such obsession from billions of people? Football has a soul. A pulse. And FIFA is just sitting there, day after day, sucking that soul dry.
They aren’t even trying to be subtle about how they dismantle fan culture anymore. Instead of actually engaging with people, they just cut deals with politicians to push through unconstitutional laws. Look at what happened right here in the States: when the head of FIFA swung through Washington, D.C., the Prime Minister and his entire cabinet practically rolled out the red carpet just to kiss his ring. And for what? So they could sit there like scolded school children while he lectured them on how to "fix" the fan problem. FIX WHAT?! Since when does the president of a football organization get to lecture the leaders of a SOVEREIGN NATION on how to run their own country? It's absurd.
Stop the crime! Corruption, bribery, match-fixing, shady gambling rings, those predatory management agencies—it’s all there. It was the past, it’s the present, and let’s be honest, it’s the future of football. Yet, here we are with FIFA acting like they’re the moral compass of the world, mostly just busy fighting racism. They sweep so many scandals under the rug that will never see the light of day—scandals they are either directly responsible for or helped facilitate—only to try and "wash" their reputation with slogans like "KICK RACISM OUT OF FOOTBALL." You’ll see it on banners at the Champions League, the Premier League, even the World Cup... it's all just a smokescreen.
They couldn't care less about the little guys. It’s all about the massive clubs that actually move the needle on their bottom line. That's why this whole "Super League" nonsense is such a huge talking point—they want a closed circuit for the ultra-wealthy elite, which would basically turn the Champions League and Europa League into nothing more than glorified preseason exhibitions. We're talking pure greed here: TV rights, skyrocketing ticket prices, the works. It's billions of dollars on the table. When you look at it through the lens of that top 1% versus the other 99% who are essentially playing for scraps, it’s pretty easy to see why the fans have gone to total war against them.

This is really the crux of the matter. It’s blindingly obvious that FIFA doesn't give a damn about corruption in football—unless, of course, that corruption is happening under their direct supervision. If the crooks running the USSF and certain local clubs weren't such obedient little voting blocks within the FIFA hierarchy, they would have been purged from the sport ages ago. They’re clearly part of some much larger, globalized football syndicate, pulling strings behind the scenes in deals we can only imagine. This institutionalized international mafia, much like the one we deal with domestically, carries out its shady business with total impunity. They do it even in countries far more organized than ours. High-level football has essentially become a massive money-laundering machine for oligarchs, smugglers, and various criminals looking to buy prestige through famous clubs. The average fan is being slowly conditioned to accept this as "business as usual." They bleed us dry with overpriced, controlled ticket prices while stripping away our rights bit by bit. It’s a classic carrot-and-stick routine used against supporter groups. First, they move to ban flares and traditional rituals. Next, it’ll be mandates on sitting or standing in the stands, then banning loud cheering, and eventually, silencing any criticism of the clubs or social issues altogether. It's a slow squeeze, and they're winning.
It’s honestly hilarious how any sports organization can let blatant criminals, racists, and thugs sit comfortably in their boardrooms without a second thought. Meanwhile, they dish out "penalties" specifically aimed at anyone who dares to protest—usually through much more civil means than the actual toxic collection of club officials and league suits running the show. These sanctions are nothing more than the byproduct of double standards; their severity isn't based on an objective look at some supposed "excess," but rather on how much protection the soccer mafia needs at that moment.
The worst part is how this group keeps everyone else in checkmate. They have the power to hand out fines and bans whenever they feel like it, which creates this ridiculous hesitation where people start overthinking things—like whether they should light flares or if they should go after the big shots during a major international match.
Of course we should. And frankly, we need to turn it up even louder than before.

Steven Alvarez26 said:We weren't there, but we were definitely there back in '50
The kings of the rooftop in '50
You can take my life, but $27 you aren't taking '50
I’ve got two lives to live—there’s no way I’m missing a game

and thaaaaaaat's how it is ☕

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But around here, we're just a bunch of local fishermen and party animals, so honestly, who cares what anyone thinks

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