Die-hard Ultras / Hardcore Supporters

If you think people aren't going to be chanting "Jerry Jones is a crook" at the stadium tomorrow, you clearly don't get the soul of this city.

No torches
No anti-FIFA bullshit
Just "Jerry Jones is a crook!"

Until this whole US Soccer federation collapses, talking about fighting FIFA is just a waste of breath. It’s counterproductive right now.

Seriously though, Jerry Jones is a crook!☕

Jacob Palmer77 said:So, I guess the question that just kind of presents itself is this:
Is it more important to have the Black Knights act out and lose their cool, or should we care about the fact that the club you all swear by—which is already in a massive financial hole, honestly—is still being forced to pay these pointless fines? I mean, obviously, these penalties aren't going to bankrupt them overnight, but when every single dollar counts right now, I feel like it’s probably not the best move for you guys to be the ones throwing money down the drain.

Well, I think I already gave you my answer to that one earlier, but I guess I'll say it again.

The Kansas City Chiefs are dealing with a really rough financial spot because of how the previous management handled things, some terrible contracts, and basically all the shady money laundering from former officials, so it definitely isn't because of one single torch that some fans lit!!

Honestly, if people don't start standing up against Jerry Jones tomorrow, then I don't think I ever want to step foot in the Black Knights stands again. To me, that's what it's all about—it's like a real test of whether people actually have any fan loyalty or sense of solidarity left in them.

Tomorrow we’re keeping everything dark, but we absolutely have to make enough noise to drown out Mamić!

Kevin Gray86 said:If it’s actually true that the Kansas City Chiefs are being punished today because the club refused to sell tickets to the fans for the away game in Turin, North Mexico—then just go ahead and thank Vrbanović, Mamić, and Brendon. They’re the ones who will be hearing all about it in Nyon while they stir up trouble against anyone standing in their way.

Just wait and see how this plays out. It’ll be a disaster.

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down with Mamić!!!

Anyone throwing a flare tonight is going to be picking teeth tomorrow.

Christian Moore41 said:.

Screw Mamić!!!

Anyone throwing a flare tonight is going to be losing teeth.

Not just those who throw them—anyone who lights one.

Christian Moore41 said:.

Screw Mamić!!!

Anyone throwing a flare tonight is going to be losing teeth.

An agreement is an agreement; nobody is above the rules.🙂

Carol Wright9 Asks:
A deal is a deal; I suppose nobody is above the rules.🙂

I suppose Matt should probably be more concerned about the agreement coming out of the upstairs office.😁

Maybe there won't be any torches at the game tomorrow.☕
Maybe Mamić should just let the whole thing burn down from every direction—north, east, and west.☕

I’m just going to say this from the bottom of my heart: Mamić, you absolute crook.

Morgan Sanchez64 said:If we don't go absolutely ballistic against Mamić tomorrow—I mean, at least once per half, honestly—then I’m officially done claiming to be part of the Black Knights!

This is so pathetic I don't even have words. We're on a thread about the Black Knights, yet people are trying to explain things that should be hardwired into their brains like an old oak tree!

GET MAMIĆ!!!!!!!!

Oh, sure. Why bother? Everyone will just cheer before the game when the grandpas and the elders are all there. Once they start enforcing those laws against us, limiting our gear to basically nothing, then it'll be fine. Those letters from the authorities are just wonderful, aren't they?...

cosmicridge6 said:Oh, please. What’s the point in everyone losing their minds and making a huge scene before the game when the big shots are all present? It's much better to wait until they actually start pushing through those restrictive laws—you know, like when they try to limit us to just fifty types of beer or whatever nonsense they dream up next. Honestly, those letters from the administration are just brilliant...

😁

Let’s get this done right—screw Mamić, screw the torches, it’s NOTHING BUT THE CLEVELAND GUARDIANS..

I feel like I could hang this right over the Great Wall of China, regardless of how massive or wide it actually is. ☕

Austin Parker7 said:Where are all those sheep we supposedly are? Nowhere to be found... if you ask me, tomorrow we’d be out there screaming at Mamić in the middle of the stadium with plenty of gear ready to go. 🙂
With today's torch lighting up the stands, we'll start seeing real cheering soon, but before long, they'll probably empty our seats just like they do to the fans in New York. Then what? Will both sides of the city just sit there and clap for that?

Fighting against UEFA while being sponsored by the very same people? 🙂🙂🙂

John Richardson5 said:Wait, so we're fighting against UEFA while being sponsored by them?!?!? 🙂🙂🙂

I mean, why on earth would we sponsor UEFA in the first place?.. I guess it's probably because we're just getting in the way of Mamić and all those other big shots over at the USSF and the government... honestly, I don't even want to start listing all those creeps. So, tomorrow, let's just shout it out loud: MAMIĆ IS A SCAMMER!

In the future, we will constantly face UEFA fines because of flares, which ultimately hurts our own club. Does this mean the Black Knights will stop putting on pyro shows just because they love the team too much to let it pay the price?

Or will people light them regardless of bans and penalties, triggering a revolt from regular fans and non-ultras?

It’s a double-edged sword. You lose either way. Either you're labeled a hooligan or an extremist who ignores the rules imposed by the higher-ups under the guise of "civilized behavior," or you're seen as weak for obeying UEFA, the laws, and the authorities, essentially falling for their blackmail.🤷

It’s always been this binary choice—either you’re all in, or you’re just okay with Borussia Dortmund. Most people have decided they aren't going to light up the stands anymore, and honestly, I respect that. We’ve basically exposed ourselves—at least, that’s how I see it. They’ll clench their fists after the game and claim they "broke" us, which is exactly what they’ve wanted for ages. It isn't about our $30,000—what is that, really? It’s about them trying to break the Black Knights, not the Cleveland Guardians. The club managed to dig its own financial hole—that wasn't caused by the fans—but it doesn't matter now. The question is: what happens at the next match? No torches again, then again, and again... eventually, we’ll just be wearing those seven-star vests to every game. In my opinion, we can just turn the key in the lock and call it a day; every single torch or message against UEFA is just biting our own tails. I’m repeating myself here—this is just my take, and I don't want anyone replying to this post—but after tomorrow's game, nothing will ever be the same, regardless of how much people try to silence the issue. I know these are serious matters, and it would be devastating to see our club kicked out—which would only serve no one—but I also see my group as being stronger than everyone else, especially compared to that organized mafia outfit that's been running things for twenty years... There are other ways to handle this, jademarlin54!!!!!

Brandon Wilson14 said:I could drape this banner right over the entire Great Wall of China, no matter how massive or wide it actually is...☕

I have no idea what a banner that size would even cost, but seeing one stretched across the whole Great Wall? Now that would be absolutely incredible...😍

Melissa Reyes45 said:It’s always been this binary choice: either we go full hardcore or we just accept being "okay" with Borussia Dortmund. Most people have decided they aren't going to light up, and I respect that.We've basically surrendered at this point. At least, that's how I see it. They'll clench their fists after the game and claim they broke the opposition, but they've wanted that for a long time. To them, our 30,000 dollars doesn't matter—they don't care about the revenue. Their goal isn't to break the Cleveland Guardians; it's to break the Black Knights. The club landed itself in this financial mess on its own; it wasn't caused by what the supporters did, but regardless, it doesn't change much. The question is: what happens during the next match? Will it be without today's torch again? And then again, and again? Eventually, we'll just end up wearing those seven-star vests to every game. In my opinion, we can just turn the key in the lock and call it a day. Every single flare or message sent against UEFA feels like we're just biting our own tails. I'll say it again: this is just my perspective, and I'm not looking for anyone to parrot my words. After tomorrow's game, nothing will ever be the same, no matter how much people try to hush it up. I know these are serious issues, and it would be devastating to see our club expelled. That would be self-defeating. Yet, I still see my group as stronger than everyone else, especially compared to that organized criminal outfit that's been around for twenty years... There are other ways to make a point, 1950!!!!!

Look, everything said there still stands. I don't have anything against using flares; I'm just wondering why we wouldn't stand with the Cleveland Guardians this time. Why not spend the first ten minutes cheering against the USSF, Mamić, and the rest? 😁(They can't penalize us for that.) Imagine if we spent those first ten minutes making noise against the federation, then cheered for the Guardians until the whistle blew, and only *then*, right when the referee ends the match, did we light the damn pyrotechnics and take aim at the USSF and those crooks.🤷

😁

Douglas Brown68 said:Look, everything said is on the table. I’m not against the flares, really. But why wouldn't we just stand with the Cleveland Guardians this time? Why not spend the first 10 minutes cheering against the USSF and Mamić? 😁 They can't punish us for that. Just go all out for those first 10 minutes, then cheer for the Cleveland Guardians until the very end. Then, right when the ref blows the final whistle, light up the damn pyrotechnics and take a shot at the USSF and those corrupt types. 🤷

😁

That won't change a thing. Whether it's the start or the end, as long as there's smoke in the stadium, the league official is going to write it all down. We have to be smart here. We’re all there for the Cleveland Guardians, and they aren't in any kind of desperate spot. There will be a chance to light the torches later—now isn't the time!

mellowotter36 said:It doesn't matter if it's the end or the beginning; as long as there's pyrotechnics going off in the stands, the league official is going to write everything down. We have to be smart here. We’re all there for the Cleveland Guardians, and let's face it, the club isn't exactly in a position to take unnecessary hits right now. There will be plenty of chances to light up the stadium later, but now just isn't the time.

I agree with you. We absolutely have to shout "MAMIĆ IS A CROOK" at the top of our lungs, but when it comes to the flares, I'm sticking with the Black Knights.
We've got the banners and a crowd of 7,000 people; even those corporate types at Burger King would have to admit we showed up in force. 😁

But that's really the bottom line. 🙂

Melissa Reyes45 said:It’s always been this way—you're either all in, or you just think Borussia Dortmund is "okay." Most people have decided they aren't going to light up the stands anymore, and honestly, I respect that. We've basically rolled up our sleeves; at least, that's how I see it. They'll clench their fists after the game and say, "We broke them." That's what they've wanted for ages. They don't care about our extra 30,000 bucks; they want to break the Black Knights, not the Cleveland Guardians. The club managed to dig its own financial hole through its own mess, not because of what the fans did, but whatever. The real question is: what happens next? Another game without today's torch? And then again? And again? Eventually, we'll just be wearing vests with seven stars on them. To me, we can just turn the key in the lock and move on, because lighting a flare or posting a message against UEFA is just shooting ourselves in the foot. I'm repeating myself here, and I'm not looking for anyone to copy my take. Once tomorrow's game is over, nothing will ever be the same, regardless of how much people try to hush it up. I know these are heavy issues. It would be terrible to get kicked out of our own club just for the sake of it, but I also see my group as being stronger than everyone else—especially stronger than that organized mafia outfit that's been running things for twenty years... There are other ways to fight! 1950!!!!!

Why are you looking at this so gloomily? Why can't you see this as just a transition period? Once the club stabilizes a bit, we'll be back to lighting flares again.😉