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Grace Alvarez56 Grace Alvarez56 Newcomer
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#1361 ·
Kevin Thompson47 said:Why don't you send over your grandfather, that old-school revolutionary, and let him teach us how things are actually done...
The radicals on this forum are something else... ☕

It seems to me you're all just silent assassins 😁 If you're really as tough as you claim, why don't you step up? I'm pretty sure a true revolutionary wouldn't hesitate to take someone out over a bottle of cheap booze without blinking an eye 😬
Jose Vaughn3 Jose Vaughn3 Active Member
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#1362 ·
Joshua Moore31 said:👍

Damn, what a message.🙏🙏🙏
Simple and honest.👍
Grace Alvarez56 Grace Alvarez56 Newcomer
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#1363 ·
Jose Vaughn3 said:Man, what a message.🙏🙏 🙏
Simple and honest enough.👍

Not even the flares were lit back in '63.😁
Betty Ramos2 Betty Ramos2 Newcomer
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#1364 ·
stormygardener15 stormygardener15 Member
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#1365 ·
Thomas Doyle19 said:that would be a total self-inflicted wound, which is exactly why it didn't happen and probably won't either. because let's be real, it would almost certainly mean the total crackdown and shutdown of the BBB group with some level of repression we haven't seen in this country before. right now things are intense enough, but in that scenario, I think it would be a death sentence for our group's survival.

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it honestly just rubs me the wrong way that you guys went for a compromise instead, a compromise that this mafia running UEFA and US Soccer is just going to exploit to death,


so what, you guys get to pick when to compromise, but we don't? 🤷
Thomas Doyle19 Thomas Doyle19 Member
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joined Feb 2013
#1366 ·
stormygardener15 said:So you guys get to pick your compromises, but we don't? 🤷

Where exactly is the compromise here? Who actually told you to pull your club from European competition? Do you guys even realize what you're suggesting?

If you’re just going to act like this, then go ahead and kick Hajduk out. Just don't come crying later when you miss out on all the big away games and realize the club, the city, and the whole country have turned against you.
northernorca3 northernorca3 Member
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joined Nov 2012
#1367 ·
So, you're telling me that hosting the Euros actually takes precedence over Mamić finally heading for the exit? 🤷
stormygardener15 stormygardener15 Member
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#1368 ·
Thomas Doyle19 said:where on earth do you see a compromise here? seriously, who ever told you guys that kicking your own club out of European competition was even an option? do you people even realize what you're actually suggesting?

I mean, if that's how you want to play it, fine—just kick Hajduk out then. But don't come crying to me later when all those cool away trips vanish and suddenly the club, the city, and the whole damn country start breathing down your necks.

I get where you're coming from, honestly. You've spent twenty years stuck in total darkness at this club, so you've basically been conditioned to nothing but constant combat. We went through the exact same thing back in the day. Everything was chaos until the Code arrived. Then, finally, we started seeing some light at the end of the tunnel once we actually picked the right people to run the show.

And look, it’s not about just throwing flares, causing anarchy, or acting like total hooligans anymore. Now the club belongs to us—even if it isn't official on paper yet—so that means we actually have skin in the game. No more handouts, no more Republican Party interference, none of that nonsense.

Once you start thinking and acting like someone who actually carries responsibility, everything changes. It's kind of like how it goes when you're just some reckless kid and then suddenly you have a baby. You stop pulling all those stupid stunts you used to pull, you know? And every now and then, you find yourself trying to teach that kid how to act right.

I really hope you'll see that light at the end of the tunnel soon too, so that maybe one day the Dinamo fans can actually manage or oversee their own club and truly understand what having real responsibility feels like.

Every single person I've talked to—and I mean everyone—stood by you after you were kicked out of the stands. So, I don't see any reason for you to be getting all worked up and defensive. You've got our full support while you fight for your rights.
stormygardener15 stormygardener15 Member
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#1369 ·
northernorca3 said:so you're saying those away trips matter more than Mamić finally getting out of here? 🤷


If I'm actually following your logic here, you think the Black Knights weren't screaming what they really needed to be screaming just so they could snag another chance to travel for an away game?
northernorca3 northernorca3 Member
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#1370 ·
Oh, no, I was actually referring to user Thomas Doyle19

I can certainly see why nobody was shouting; if it were me, I’d probably be sitting somewhere nursing a drink for a couple of hours after the whistle, just trying to process that result and the way the whole game unfolded 🤷
stormygardener15 stormygardener15 Member
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#1371 ·
Once again, it’s all the bookie's fault 😁 😛
silentviper22 silentviper22 Member
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joined Oct 2012
#1372 ·
Honestly, I’m starting to think it’s a blessing in disguise that we’re broke right now. I mean, after Tudor said we were dead set on bringing in Mat Bilic and then pivoting to this Blazevski guy, it just feels like everything was meant to be this way 👎
silentviper22 silentviper22 Member
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#1373 ·
silentviper22 said:Honestly, I’m starting to think it’s a total blessing in disguise that we’re broke right now. I mean, look at the situation—Tudor was out here acting like we were actually going to land Mat Bilic, and then he tries to pivot to this Blazevski guy? Give me a break. If we had the cash, we’d probably just be throwing it down the drain on players who don't fit our vibe anyway. Sometimes, having an empty bank account saves you from making some seriously questionable decisions! 👎

Wrong thread, guys!
Dana Reed9 Dana Reed9 Newcomer
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#1374 ·
Well, here we go again... yet another report has been released regarding this whole MLS circus... honestly, it’s just more of the same nonsense.

As part of our ongoing "direct mockery of the MLS" project—which, let’s be honest, is becoming a full-time job at this point—we are presenting the consolidated report for Round 4...

Last week felt like some sort of bizarre reincarnation of the late Željko Malnar—honestly, he’s probably the only one who could have actually directed a press conference at Maksimir involving Zdravko Mamić and three entire generations of the Dedić family... It was quite the spectacle. They were all discussing that strange, highly suspicious penalty UEFA slapped on Dinamo in record time—all because of those chants about "Gypsy Mamić" coming from the stands. It’s strange, really... they punished them by simply emptying one single east stand—forcing every fan to migrate over to the north side of Maksimir (which, mind you, is covered in video surveillance like Guantanamo)—and it's suspicious because the ruling came just days after the match, whereas UEFA usually takes its sweet time with these things. Mamić even suggested that the report against him might have been filed by that association out of Cleveland—you know, the ones who are members of FARE—acting under the wing of Minister Jovanović. Those folks from Cleveland are the very same people who reported us back in the day for the "White boys" banner—which, let’s be honest, was created long before their current crusade against racism—and for the Confederate flag... which, aside from being a thing in California, is basically banned only in North Korea and certain Arab nations currently at odds with the USA.

Even though Mr. Dedić—the president of the International Romani Association—clarified that the Romani people are indigenous to New York City, and noted how they actually take pride when "Gypsy" is shouted at them at Maksimir Stadium... well, that doesn't exactly solve the headache with UEFA. That very same night, the exact same stadium was echoing with insults directed at Mamić and US Soccer. What actually transpired during those moments warrants a much deeper legal analysis—though, frankly, when you try to find any common ground between American soccer and actual law or justice, it’s a bit of a lost cause... After those chants broke out, the police cleared out a section of the north stands. Then, based on reports from other spectators (!), they began patrolling the west stand, essentially dragging away anyone who had been shouting "illegal" slogans. It remains entirely unclear to us what the actual issue was—was it the fact that they insulted Mamić? (I mean, if they had just said something else instead of "Gypsies," would that have been punishable?) Or was it because they linked the Romani community to Zdravko? Under which specific Police Law does the department justify clearing a stadium for shouting things like "US Soccer, you f***ed up football" or "Mamić, you Gypsy"? Not only did they clear the stands, but they held fans for hours—identifying them, recording them, documenting everything... all of it. And for what? So they can hand over the files to the Great Leader of American soccer, so he can once again wave to the cameras on TV in perfect synchronization? I suspect all these actions against the fans will be justified under the Sports Riot Prevention Act—a piece of legislation designed specifically to snuff out the supporter movement. It’s the same law we fought against for years, a fight where nobody stood by us... especially not when they start dreaming up a "final solution" for other "undesirable" groups—you'll remember the fans were next on that list. The moments when those who committed this new "verbal offense" were being detained felt less like law enforcement and more like a private militia hunting down anyone brave enough to shout against the Great Leader. The whole scene... it felt uncomfortably reminiscent of other eras. And we all know how those times ended.

The developments following the alleged penalty are quite interesting—they’ve actually organized an emergency US Soccer meeting in Lyon. This was announced by none other than the Great Leader of American football, who, alongside Davor “Brand” Šuker and Damir Vrbanović, sent his brother Zoran along in the delegation... as well as another club employee (who is well-known because her husband works for the HHO). I don't recall US Soccer ever reaching out to Hajduk to ask if there was any way they could help prevent every single minor infraction from the stands from turning into a massive fine. It wouldn't even surprise me if, whenever Hajduk is involved, they personally call UEFA just to ensure our penalties are beefed up a bit... Of all the supporter groups, the Hajduk fans seem to fear one thing above all else: the “Our Hajduk” project—where members elect the Supervisory Board based on a “one member, one vote” model. And honestly, the sheer level of attendance at a Club that they are working so hard to mock and humiliate... well, that doesn't exactly work in their favor. In fact, it’s moving directly toward their own undoing—and deep down, they know it...

Regarding this weekend's matches... well, they’re essentially meaningless at this point—the final standings are basically set in stone—but we could always chat about Dinamo 2 or perhaps Lokomotiva, who are still effectively frozen out by the Great Leader after some unidentified hooligans decided to torch their borrowed Mercedes back in the first round... quite an entrance, really. Last week, the Lokomotiva coach actually addressed him publicly, stating, “We can’t be number one, and everyone *knows* who the best is.” My only real grievance with that statement is the suggestion that nobody knows who the best is—though, of course, there is no ambiguity about who will finish first. Still, apparently, Lokomotiva's "efforts" were rewarded this weekend when referee Marić handed them a 2-1 victory over Istra. Mr. Marić has once again proven that Željko Čulo—the former president of the old top-tier club Cibalija—was absolutely right during his court appearance when he said: "I apologize to Bruno Marić if my words following the Cibalija and Dinamo match offended him in any way. It was never my intention to disparage his personal qualities or his skill as an official, but I was simply caught up in the result and the poor officiating from the linesmen. In fact, I consider Bruno Marić to be the finest football referee in the United States."
The Istra coach, Mamić, offered his take on the game: “My squad was fantastic, and that’s where I’m done with football.” During a long press conference where he touched upon things we all know too well—yet those responsible do nothing to stop them—he even brought up Lokomotiva’s "fair play" players, who refused to clear the ball after one of their own got injured, leading to them scoring from the very same play... I suspect he might have overplayed his hand there; honestly, if the Lokomotiva boys were actually that fair, they’d be relegated to the second division themselves. Interestingly enough, Dinamo’s other affiliate, Cleveland, used the exact same method—committing a foul without consequence, then scoring while the opponent is lying on the ground—to beat Zadar with the same scoreline.

RNK Split—once close friends with the current US Soccer establishment—are now struggling with basic penalty calls, and last year, thanks to the "way the league resolved itself," they missed out on European competition entirely. Their most valuable asset was called up to the national team, which begs the question: is the Great Leader starting to warm up to them and Žužula?

As for our Hajduk, it's the same old story... journalists are just hovering, waiting for a blunder so they can sell us out again to a single owner to settle debts created by those who used to write them endless panegyrics. Meanwhile, on the pitch, the hunt for our players remains wide open. It’s almost as if points are awarded based on how many players our squad loses to injury and for how long—they remain willfully blind to the obvious. Those people—who, with eyes wide open, often choose to pivot toward football commentary or sports journalism instead—can still comfort themselves by blaming bad pitches or poor training sessions...
Thomas Doyle19 Thomas Doyle19 Member
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#1375 ·
northernorca3 said:So, we're prioritizing Euro hosting over Mamić finally leaving? 🤷

I don't get why people always twist my words. Personally, I’d love to see Dinamo crash out of Europe as soon as possible—ideally against Sheriff—as long as Mamić is still running the show. Honestly, I hope we never even make it to the Champions League or Europa League groups. I know that's the only thing keeping him afloat with the fans and the sponsors. Winning the MLS isn't enough for those guys; they live off European prize money and results. So yeah, I’m rooting for an early exit because, frankly, I couldn't care less about those fancy trips while that scumbag is in charge. But then again, if we happen to draw an amazing away game, what am I supposed to say? That I don't care because I'm protesting Mamić? Last year, when Vid scored that goal, I almost teared up. The guy has insane luck, but I’m still against the club getting banned from Europe due to flares or riots. That would just screw over the BBB and the club we actually support. If they did that on purpose, what kind of message would that send to the sheep who already whistle at us? It would look like we don't give a damn about the club, basically proving Gypsy Mamić right when he calls us misguided. The whole city would turn on us, and I bet they'd use the New York City Police Department and whatever other puppets they pay off to just wipe us out at the games. He’s practically halfway there already. Away games are banned, and even at home, the stands are a mess. There are cameras everywhere in the North, the East stand is closed, and honestly, don't even bother with the West unless you want to get baited into a riot. The South is for visitors. Is there even one section left where you can show up without being provoked by those bastards?

If they kick Dinamo out of Europe, they’re basically handing them everything they need to paint us as failures and a bunch of thugs who only exist to trash the club. It gives them a free pass to lynch us in the media. So, I'm against Dinamo playing in Europe right now, but only because I'd rather see some criminal from Austria absolutely demolish them than have us BBB fans take the heat.

Remember when Gypsy Mamić was all tears and sobbing? Man, what a joke... those damn Austrian executioners. 😂

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DqgyXR8EVeY

What a total fraud—just an actor playing a part. Is there anything more pathetic? 🙂
Anthony Palmer22 Anthony Palmer22 Newcomer
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#1376 ·
Hey everyone... I'm looking for some old-school Black Knights fans who remember the vibes back in the 80s and 90s. I need some help tracking down info regarding a specific guy. Does anyone recognize the name "pup"? If you know anything about him, I'd really appreciate the lead.
lonewolf53 lonewolf53 Member
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#1377 ·
stormygardener15 said:I get where you're coming from. After twenty years of darkness at the club, you basically get used to just constantly fighting. We went through the exact same thing here before the Code was established. It wasn't until we finally chose people who actually knew how to lead the club that we saw any light at the end of the tunnel.

And it’s not about throwing flares, causing anarchy, or acting out anymore. Now, the club belongs to us—even if it isn't official yet—so we carry the responsibility. The days of handouts and Republican Party politics and all that nonsense are over.

Once you start thinking and acting with that sense of responsibility, everything changes. I guess it’s kind of like when you’re a kid and then you have a child of your own. You don't act out the way you used to, and maybe even occasionally you find yourself telling that kid how they should behave.

I really hope you'll see the light at the end of the tunnel soon too, so that the Dinamo fans can eventually manage or oversee their own club. Maybe then you'll truly understand what that level of responsibility feels like.

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I agree with you on one point, but I have to disagree on another. Why? Well, if we are truly responsible now, and if this is indeed our club like you say, then why are we just bowing down to UEFA and doing exactly what they dictate? Is it for the good of the club? Fine. I can understand following orders while we're dealing with this financial "crisis," but if this keeps up, it doesn't make sense to me. Because that submission is exactly what they want from us. In the past, even if we were sitting fifth in the standings and missing out on European competition, we would have stood our ground and protected our pride. ☕
Jacob Palmer77 Jacob Palmer77 Active Member
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#1378 ·
Anthony Palmer22 said:Hey there... I was wondering if any of you old-school Black Knights who actually remember the vibes back in the 80s and 90s could help me out with some info on a specific guy. I'm looking for someone everyone used to call pup, and if anyone knows anything about him, I'd really appreciate the help.

If the veterans on this thread can't help you, you probably won't find answers anywhere else:
http://www.hrhb.info/showthread.php?t=7&page=212
Christian Jones Christian Jones Active Member
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#1379 ·
An indictment?!
🙂
stormygardener15 stormygardener15 Member
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#1380 ·
lonewolf53 said:I guess I'm with you on one level, but honestly, I’ve gotta disagree on the rest. Why? Because look, if we're supposedly the ones in charge now—if this is truly our club like everyone keeps shouting—then why on earth are we just rolling over for UEFA and doing exactly what they tell us to do? Is it all for the "good of the club"? Fine. Sure. I can wrap my head around bowing down while we're stuck in some supposed financial "crisis," but if this becomes our permanent way of life, it's total nonsense. This kind of submission is exactly what those guys want from us. Back in the day, we might have finished fifth in the standings and missed out on European competition entirely, but at least we wouldn't be selling out our pride and our dignity just to stay in line. ☕

It's their game, their rules, that much is obvious. We don't even have to play, nobody is forcing our hand... yet here we are, acting like we're the ones making the calls...

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