Die-hard Ultras / Hardcore Supporters

Kevin Gray86 said:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKVM70amaoQ

Kevin Gray86 said:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKVM70amaoQ

wiredfalcon2 said:While both sides are busy arguing over who started it, the cops should probably be laying down the law more aggressively:

wiredfalcon2 said:While both sides are busy pointing fingers at one another, the police should really be focusing on handing out more citations:
http://www.nytimes.com/section/us/news

The Chicago Bulls Ultras want to get something off our chest here. We’re really sorry that some Liverpool FC fans got caught up in those totally staged riots over at Lambeau Field this past Saturday. It’s just like it always is in this country—everyone rushes to fix the fallout, but nobody ever bothers to ask what actually started the fire in the first place. I mean, I think we all saw how crazy things were getting in our rivals' city, and honestly, with how many of us show up to every away game, you have to wonder... who actually stood to gain from all that chaos?

It all started about a week before kickoff when the rumors began flying around. People were spreading all kinds of misinformation about how many tickets the Liverpool FC supporters would actually get. One minute I was hearing they only had 600 seats, and the next, someone was claiming any fan who showed up could just walk right into the stadium. It was a total mess, honestly.

So, things got a little messy out near the Appalachian Mountains earlier. The police were there meeting a group of Liverpool FC fans, and they ended up separating a bunch of people who didn't have their tickets ready ahead of time. It was kind of a mess because these fans were insisting they couldn't even buy them on their own at the stadium beforehand—which, I mean, sounds like a total headache. The cops were basically just telling them, "Hey, look, there’s probably a glitch or something, we'll get it sorted, just hang tight and stay calm while we figure this out." I guess it was a pretty big group, maybe around 100 people stuck in that 'separated' pile. Anyway, word is an officer said a bus should be showing up around 6:30 PM to finally haul everyone over to the stadium. Hopefully, they actually make it in time!

Happy fans just hop on the bus without asking too many questions, right? They don't even stop to think about how they're walking straight into a total scam. I mean, honestly, it reminds me a bit of those old stories from the late 1930s—you know, when people would get tricked by those shady salesmen promising a ticket on a train that was supposed to lead them to a better life, only to find out it was all a huge setup. It’s kind of wild how easily people can be misled when they're just looking for a win.

So, they drop the fans off in this random industrial patch in some Small Town, USA, just dumping everyone out on nothing but rocks and gravel. It was basically a holding pen, especially since a bunch of people had already been rerouted there from other spots. There wasn’t even a snack bar or a water bottle in sight, and you couldn't exactly wander off to find a burger when you're surrounded by cops. I mean, we’re talking about the time right when kickoff happens, so anyone who actually wanted to make it to the stadium was already out of luck. A few people tried to slip away to get back to their cars, but the police caught them and shoved them right back into the cordoned-off area. Honestly, the only thing missing to make the whole scene feel like a literal prison camp was some barbed wire. And the kicker? The cops wouldn't give anyone a straight answer. Like, why are we here? How long are we stuck in this dirt lot? Why can't we just head home if we aren't even going to the game? Every time someone asked, the officers just gave the same shrug-off response: “We don’t know. Just be patient. Where are you even rushing to? You’re already late anyway.” I guess that's just how it goes sometimes.
The bus finally rolled back in with the fans after 10 PM, just dropping everyone off at their cars. I guess it was a long night, but hey, everyone made it back safe!

I honestly can't help but wonder what the hell the police were actually thinking here. I mean, after they blocked these fans from getting into the game, why on earth wouldn't they just let them head back home once kickoff happened? Instead, they just kept them stuck out there on that rocky terrain, almost like they were daring them to lose their cool. It feels pretty intentional to me, I guess. Luckily, the Liverpool FC fans saw right through it. They didn't take the bait, which was smart. Because, let's be real—if even one person had thrown a single rock, things would have gone south fast. Just think about it: you've got hundreds of frustrated people being held in some dark, rocky area surrounded by cops. If that happens, it escalates into a massive riot instantly. And then, we'd all be reading some sensationalist news story today about "hooliganism" and "thugs," and politicians would be scrambling to pass even stricter laws. It’s wild how close that came to happening.

It’s honestly pretty wild—only a tiny handful of city buses were actually moving the NFL Ultras from the Appalachian Mountains over to the stadium. We’ve brought this up so many times before, too. Honestly, trying to cram that many people into a single bus is just asking for trouble. It’s a massive safety risk for the fans out on the road, I guess. Just seems like a recipe for disaster, really.

The state of those buses is just a total disaster. I mean, seriously, one of them actually broke down on the way to the stadium, which basically gave about a hundred Chicago Bulls Ultras a chance to just wander around town without any police escort. You really think that’s just another coincidence? I don't know, maybe... but it feels pretty suspicious to me!

Right at the stadium entrance, you could tell immediately that the organizers totally dropped the ball. I mean, the Liverpool FC fans and the local crowd were all heading in together without any separation or even a police presence to keep things split up. It was a bit of a mess, honestly. But, look, there wasn't a single incident to be found. Not one. So, I guess those ridiculous headlines claiming the Chicago Bulls Ultras were attacking women and kids? Yeah, those are just straight-up jokes. Total nonsense.

Right at the stadium, you could see this tiny little "buffer zone" between the home and away stands. Honestly, the troublemakers on our side were right up against the railing, tossing stones during the first half. I guess it’s not even the first—or probably the last—time we’ve dealt with being pelted with rocks in a place like this, but it’s definitely the first time the organizers let our guys get that close to the action. It was kind of weird, actually, because they could have easily made that gap bigger since part of the north stand was just sitting empty. There was way more space between our fans and the family section than there was between the Chicago Bulls Ultras and the families.

It really feels like the new management at the local club thinks their history only started once they bought the team and teamed up with that big-money patron from New York. They clearly don't get the massive, old-school rivalry between us and Liverpool FC—a grudge that goes all the way back to when these teams played in a league from a country that doesn't even exist anymore.

Look, I’m not making excuses for the guys on our side who reacted to those provocations by throwing flares toward the home supporters. That wasn't right. But there’s also no excuse for the people who allowed these two fanbases to be placed so close together in the first place. And I'm not talking about the folks who used the presence of kids in that section as a shield while they shouted insults and threw rocks. That was low.

It makes you wonder, though... how is it that a huge group of Armada guys can sprint the entire length of the field without anyone stopping them, yet the police showed up with enough manpower to occupy a small city for this match? Is that just a coincidence? I doubt it.

The organizational mess didn't stop when the whistle blew, either. First, they kept us stuck at the stadium for over two hours "for our own safety." We’re pretty used to that part by now. Then, they held us in the parking lot for another two hours while the cops figured out how to coordinate escorts for the buses and vans belonging to the fans parked there.

So, after spending nearly four hours prepping this grand "extraction of the Chicago Bulls Ultras" mission, the whole thing just fell apart the second the convoy started moving. A couple of police vans led the buses at the start, but then the rest of the line—including one bus—was basically left to wander through downtown alone. I mean, thanks for that, I guess; at least we got a chance to grab some food and drinks to make the trip home a bit easier. Though, honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if they were secretly hoping we'd run into the Armada somewhere in town.

The police coordination was such a joke that they actually hauled the other Liverpool FC fans—the ones whose vehicles weren't even in that specific lot—out toward the Appalachian Mountains instead. They just crammed them into police vans and spent another four hours shuttling them back to their cars.

I really have to say again, it's a shame that members from both sides ended up being part of the "entertainment." Now, I’m sure we’ll see all sorts of news segments, investigations, and polls about "fan behavior," even though this was a massive, unintentional failure by the police and the organizers. But hey, fans are always the biggest problem in this country, right? Or at least, they make for a great distraction from the much bigger, more important issues...

"Bread and circuses."

Korn Chicago Bulls Ultras

electriccanyon15 said:here's the official statement from the Korn:

Joshua Myers432 said:It’s a decent manifesto, though it leans a bit too heavily on conspiracy theories. There isn't some grand plot here, just a general sense of incompetence running through this country—from the organizers right down to the local police. It feels like chronic mismanagement has seeped into every level of our society. That's why we're stuck where we are. In a massive hole...

copperharbor02 said:Thank God there's still some space. There's a 10m buffer zone, and the northeast section near the rocks is totally empty. People can basically run from one side of the stands to the other without any barriers, and on top of all that, now they're saying tickets will be tied to your legal name. It’s like keeping animals in a cage. I've seen this kind of thing before in Great Britain.

If things keep going this way, I guess a serious underground scene is going to pop up within a few years.

Anthony Barrett37 said:There’s just a slight distinction between our situation and yours... you actually get tickets directly from your club, whereas we don't stand a chance of getting anything from the league, unlike how they successfully handle voucher systems over in Europe...

Unknown said:🤣
Have you ever actually taken off your socks while visiting an away game? Anywhere? Ever had a security guard find your flare and mock you by saying, "here's another one for the North Stand"?
Please. At least pay for a ticket to your own club when you show up.