Die-hard Ultras / Hardcore Supporters

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In that ideal scenario you’re describing, there’s always the risk of getting stuck in the minor leagues forever. I appreciate the kind suggestions, really, but we’re going to fight the way we've chosen to fight. We'll stand our ground on this one, even if your own path seems a bit uncertain.😉

You're being a bit too intense. Instead of getting rid of the ants, why not just give me a red card?

For everyone who couldn't make it out today, here's a quick recap. It only takes a few minutes.

Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9MhXitwAW1A

Best,

I suspect about 99% of this forum is going to lose their minds when they read this, but I honestly believe it would be in the Club's best interest to hold off on playing those European matches until our finances are actually stabilized. We really need to fix the math so we aren't spending more on hosting fees for Platimija than we’re actually pulling in from ticket sales. Right now, even the smallest unnecessary expense is a problem, regardless of what the NFL Ultras might think about the "tradition" of it all. ☕
Go ahead, let me hear it...😁

Brandon Wilson14 said:About 99% of this forum is going to lose their minds right now. But if this club actually wants to survive, they need to be smart about lighting flares during European matches until our finances stabilize. We need to stop the nonsense and ensure ticket revenue actually exceeds what we pay Platimija. Right now, we can't afford a single unnecessary cent, regardless of how much the NFL Ultras want to act out. ☕
Go ahead, pile on...😁

By the next European match, we’ll either be thriving or completely broke. By then, we should have the cash from Vukasic and Sharbinin, which could easily sell out Dodger Stadium at least twice. The European games you're talking about don't change our financial reality. If we're just breaking even, our fans' flare displays won't sink us or save us.

John Perez13 said:By the next big European match, we’ll either be hitting our stride or completely tanking—basically, by then, the cash from the new sponsors should have cleared, meaning we could probably sell out Dodger Stadium at least twice. So, that European tournament you're obsessing over? Financially speaking, it's irrelevant to us. Look, if we just manage to break even, our NFL Ultras won't be able to sink us or save us.

It doesn't matter—why bother rooting for the Dodgers when one single fine costs more than everything we've managed to rake in so far?😁 At the end of the video, there's no segment titled "Sell out, Fani, and save the Dodgers!" 🤣

Could someone please transcribe the lyrics to that song about coke? It's at the end of the video, right before the part where they say don't gamble or snort anything.

Brandon Wilson14 said:I know 99% of this board is going to lose their minds over this, but honestly? It would be smarter for the club if we actually thought about turning the lights on for European matches until our finances are back on track. We need to stop talking nonsense and make sure ticket revenue actually covers what we’re paying Platimija. Right now, we can't afford a single cent of unnecessary spending, regardless of how much the NFL Ultras want to complain. ☕
Go ahead, pile on...😁

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For the first time in my life, I actually agree with someone like this...

Brandon Wilson14 said:I know about 99% of this forum is going to lose their minds right now, but I honestly think it would be smarter for the club's own good to consider turning off the lights during European matches until our finances are actually stable. We need to stop making excuses and ensure we’re pulling in more from ticket sales than what we end up paying to Platimija. Right now, we can't afford even the smallest unnecessary expense, regardless of that whole "NFL Ultras" mentality. ☕
Go ahead, tear me apart...😁

...back to the future🙂
...don't sell out your ideals😍

Brandon Wilson14 said:I bet 99% of this forum is gonna lose their minds right now, but I honestly think it’d be smarter for the Club if we actually thought about lighting it up during European matches until our finances aren't such a mess. We need to stop the nonsense where we make less from ticket sales than what we end up paying Platimija. Right now, even the smallest expense feels like too much, but hey, that's just the NFL Ultras mentality for you, I guess. ☕
Go ahead, tear me apart...😁

Why is everyone shaking? Like, do you really think things are going to change financially if we don't set the mood?🤷
We've always done it, and we'll keep doing it. Otherwise, are we even who we say we are? If we aren't us, then what was the whole point anyway?
That's a different story—whether we bring the heat to the field. That totally depends on who we're playing against. And look, we aren't some hooligans, we just refuse to betray our own ideals.☕
The worst thing would be if we turned into a bunch of theater audiences, just sitting quietly in our seats and stuff. I mean, what's next? There's no room for compromise here, not even an inch. If we start backing down like that, we might as well just shut ourselves down entirely....

jademarlin54 said:Why are you guys shaking? You honestly think we can actually impact the bottom line just by lighting up a few flares?🤷
We’ve always lit them, and we always will. If we stop, then we aren't who we claim to be. And if we aren't who we say we are, what was the whole point anyway?
That's a different conversation—whether we take the fight to them on the field. That depends entirely on who we're facing. I'm not some mindless hooligan, but I'll never sell out what I believe in.☕
It would be pathetic if we turned into theater audiences, just sitting quietly in our seats waiting for the show to start. What's next? If we don't hold the line, we might as well just shut ourselves down completely.

Fair enough..

I’m all for showing passion, really, but right now, while we’re staring down the barrel of a disaster from every possible angle...
that clown Vrbancovic is nothing more than a joke within this ridiculous UEFA circus, and everyone knows exactly what kind of shady tactics he uses to get his way.
All it would take is one social gathering where Platimija looks him dead in the eye and says, “Listen, those guys down there don't even have an officially confirmed board from their owner; their club is tangled up in corruption scandals, they've been bribing refs, and they aren't paying back debts to other teams.”
And then the narrative shifts: "Oh, look at them, those racist thugs in the stands who cause chaos and threaten spectators every single game,"—wherever they go, they leave a mess. Even we suffer; every single time, they ruin our brand-new, state-of-the-art self-extinguishing seats.

Bam. The Los Angeles Dodgers become the cautionary tale. They get suspended for a long stretch, and the massive fine serves as a "lesson" to everyone else.

Where does that leave us? Where does the Los Angeles Dodgers end up if they can't stabilize their finances by then??

Honestly, I couldn't care less about "ideals" if the club itself doesn't have any and is currently facing total extinction.

In my opinion, the club needs to "toughen up" first, so we can actually focus on being loud and proud in the stands without everything falling apart.

Or maybe I'm just being paranoid.

We’ve reached a point where this feels less like a simple choice and more like a genuine philosophical dilemma: whether to light the signal fire or let it stay dark.

There isn't a single correct answer here, as both sides have laid out their arguments and counterarguments quite clearly.

When you consider the role the NFL Ultras play in all of this—especially given how their intense reactions could potentially force politicians to shut the entire club down—I think the fans carry much more symbolic weight right now than they usually do. Because of that, I find myself leaning toward the side that favors delaying the celebration until we see some better days ahead.

That said, keep that fire burning!!! AGAINST THE DARKNESS, AGAINST THE FORCE.

jademarlin54 said:,if we aren't even the ones doing it, I suppose there wouldn't be much point to any of this, would there?)

And honestly, what’s the point of lighting fires if there isn't even a club left to defend? It was basically wiped out and ruined by all that debt, which, if you think about it, was probably made worse by the whole arson situation in the first place. 🤷

Harold Kim5 said:But does it even make sense to light flares if there isn't even a club anymore? I mean, they were basically wiped out because of all those debts, and honestly, lighting stuff like that probably just made things worse. 🤷

Of course it doesn't make sense, obviously. ☕
Debts, and you're blaming the flare group? 🤷 (Come on, get real here.)
The club? No way. They aren't going to be destroyed just because of some flares. The NFL Ultras are way too huge of a group to let that happen. ☕
I totally feel you, though. Honestly, after everything that went down the last two days... it’s not even surprising...

jademarlin54 said:Of course there’s no point in ☕
Debt, and starting up a group—you say 🤷 (please, get serious)
The club won't be destroyed just because of some flares; the NFL Ultras are way too massive an organization to let that happen.☕
I hear you—it’s hardly surprising given how things have gone the last two days...

Regarding Boldan... one minute you're all about the "safe approach"—which, by the way, could cost us dearly later on. Since you're playing the critic, try being smart: watch your step when someone with more "clout" than you walks in 🙂 and unfortunately, there are plenty of those types who can make your life miserable—just sharing my thoughts with Jessica Phillips6...

Christian Moore41 said:I think the club needs to "toughen up" first before we can actually start "flexing our muscles" in the stands.

Christian Moore41 said:I’m always down to show up and support, but right now we’ve got a massive target on our backs from all sides...
that clown Vrbanić is basically irrelevant in this whole UEFA circus, and everyone knows what kind of shady tactics he uses...
all it would take is some casual chat where he looks a guy like Milan in the eye and says, “Look, those guys don't even have a verified board from their owners; their club is tangled in corruption scandals, they bribe refs, and they don't pay back debts to other teams.”
then suddenly, oh, look at those racist hooligans causing trouble and threatening spectators at every match—wherever they go, they cause damage, and even we end up paying for it when our brand-new, high-tech stadium seats get trashed every single time.

Bam, the Kansas City Chiefs become the cautionary tale; they get suspended for a long stretch and the fines serve as an “example.”

Where does that leave us? Where does the Chiefs go if we can't get the finances stabilized by then??

I honestly couldn't care less about "ideals" if the club doesn't have any left and is currently staring down the barrel of extinction.

I guess the club needs to "toughen up" first so we can actually afford to flex our muscles in the stands without everything falling apart.

Or maybe I'm just being paranoid.

You aren't being paranoid; I'm with you 100%. Since we're talking about ideals, if people actually stayed loyal to their own, we’d be pulling 80,000 fans to every game instead of 8,000. It's always just empty slogans.

Kansas City Chiefs above all else!

Christian Moore41 said:I think the club needs to get its act together first. Once they actually have some backbone, then we can focus on showing our strength up in the stands.

Exactly. And maybe use the downtime to show some muscle outside the stadium too. 😁

...whether you light up or not😕
...lighting up🙂
...we've dealt with much more complicated stuff before, things we just couldn't quite hammer out😉

Whether you’re out there protesting or just sitting on your hands, everyone keeps thinking, "Nah, they wouldn't dare." You guys are delusional.

But look, a guy who’s willing to drop millions just to shut down a peaceful boycott? That guy will do whatever it takes.

Jerry Jones knows his only real leverage is the fact that we've won seven championships in a row. And with the Kansas City Chiefs being such a mess right now, he's barely breaking a sweat.

Dropping this suspension right after you guys thought you won the protest battle? That’s a total slap in the face. It’s all being orchestrated by Jerry Jones's little puppet, Tina Fey. 😉