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electricstag9 electricstag9 Active Member
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#141 ·
Harold Kim5 said:So far, we've moved over $67 units—and keep in mind, summer is basically over, which is peak beer season—so by New Year's, we could be looking at half a million...

Back in the summer (from late July onwards), we were moving about 3,000 to 4,000 liters a day. Lately, that counter hasn't even jumped by 1,000 a day. If we follow that flawed logic, there's no way we'll even hit 300,000 by the end of the year.

This was the status on the counter as of August 27th. To put things in perspective, we moved 125,000 liters during that month of summer sales, yet in the following month and a half, we only moved 75,000.
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The Political Party has spoken.
http://www.dalmacijanews.com/Hajduk/...u-ostavke.aspx
Podrug: I am refusing to attend the meeting unless both the Management and the Hajduk Board of Directors resign immediately.
Morgan Sanchez64 Morgan Sanchez64 Active Member
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joined Sep 2012
#142 ·
http://www.dalmacijanews.com/Hajduk/...u-ostavke.aspx

The City Treasury is bone dry, yet there’s this unprecedented pressure being put on council members to blindly hand over more than $5 million to a small group of private investors—supposedly to "save" Hajduk
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It would be refreshing if the folks in the Hajduk Management specifically the fans they keep manipulating actually went public with their monthly salaries. If they and all their associates showed their numbers, maybe some fans would finally realize why they’re fighting so hard for their comfortable seats rather than for the club itself...

Now, they’re looking to the city, as the majority owner, to provide a guarantee, or essentially, a massive donation.

It was quite something seeing how arrogant and bold the new Management and Board of Directors were when they kicked the representative of the City of Miami out of the Hajduk offices. They insulted and humiliated the City of Miami right up until they were forced out, and now they’re turning around to ask the city for help instead of asking the other shareholders. And what happened to that association called Naš Hajduk? They helped install this leadership and pushed politics out of the club, yet suddenly they’ve vanished just as their favorites are steering Hajduk toward bankruptcy—unless, of course, that was the plan all along.

Why aren't the elected members of the Board of Directors and Management, who clearly lack the ability to lead Hajduk, even considering resigning? It would be the bare minimum of decency to step down before asking for money from the very City of Miami officials they tossed out of the club...

The club's leadership really planned this out perfectly: spend other people's money irresponsibly, and once the coffers are empty, just ask for another loan. After all, Hajduk is an "institution," so anyone standing against a new loan is labeled a traitor to the cause. Truly original. Debts need to be repaid, and this loan is no different. But what exactly is this money for? A handful of mediocre players, their agents, and various hidden middlemen... while the naive fans think soccer is a religion and treat clubs like sacred shrines.

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We are dealing with some seriously shady business here.
I KNOW we're right, and I KNOW Hajduk shouldn't go into bankruptcy, but I'm genuinely terrified of the people pushing for it and those who benefit from it. I fear there is a lot we don't see regarding the whole "pro-bankruptcy" crowd...
Major things are happening—likely the biggest events in the history of this club.
silentviper22 silentviper22 Member
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joined Oct 2012
#143 ·
Morgan Sanchez64 said:http://www.dalmacijanews.com/Hajduk/...u-ostavke.aspx

The City Treasury is bone dry, yet there’s this massive, unprecedented pressure being shoved onto council members to just hand over blindly more than $25 million to a small group of private investors—supposedly all in the name of "saving Hajduk."

Honestly, it would be great if the folks running Hajduk management specifically those playing games with the fans they claim to represent just came clean about their monthly paychecks. If they showed us what they and all their associates are actually pulling in, maybe some fans would finally realize why they’re fighting so hard to protect their own cushy seats instead of actually fighting for Hajduk.

Now, they’re turning to the city—the majority owner—and asking for a guarantee, or basically, a massive handout.

Man, remember how arrogant and out-of-touch the new Management and Board of Directors were when they kicked the representative from the City of Miami out of the Hajduk offices? They treated the City of Miami with such disrespect until they were tossed out of the club entirely, and now, suddenly, they’re begging the city for help instead of looking to the other shareholders. And what happened to that "Our Hajduk" association? They helped set up this management, supposedly stripped the politics out of the club, and now they've completely vanished right when their little favorites are driving Hajduk straight into bankruptcy. Or maybe, just maybe, that was the whole point from the start.

Why aren't the elected members of the Board of Directors and Management—who clearly have no clue how to run Hajduk—even thinking about resigning? It would be the bare minimum of decency to step down before asking for a bailout from the very City of Miami officials they insulted and kicked out of the club.

It’s a classic playbook, really. Spend other people's money recklessly, and when the coffers run dry, just ask for another loan because "Hajduk is an institution," and anyone who dares to oppose the credit is branded a traitor to the club. How original. Debts need to be paid back, and that includes this loan. And what is that money even going toward? A handful of mediocre players, their agents, and shady middlemen, while the naive fans sit there thinking soccer is a religion and calling clubs "sacred."

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We are dealing with some seriously shady business here.
I KNOW we're right, and I KNOW Hajduk shouldn't go into bankruptcy, but honestly, it scares the hell out of me—the people pushing for this and whoever stands to gain from it. I’m terrified that there’s a lot more going on behind the scenes than we realize regarding this whole "pro-bankruptcy" crowd.
Huge things are happening here, probably the biggest shakeup in the club's entire history.

I have a gut feeling THEY won't sign off that easily; there is something much darker going on than what we can see.
Morgan Sanchez64 Morgan Sanchez64 Active Member
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#144 ·
darker1 said:everyone here is standing their ground 🙏

I was just quoting Luka Podrug.
That should serve as a pretty clear indicator of just how much nonsense he's spewing...☕
brightsurfer26 brightsurfer26 Newcomer
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#145 ·
Not even a single member of the Democratic Party of Split showed up to the meeting.

http://www.dalmacijanews.com/Hajduk/...o-Hajduku.aspx

"The Democratic Party of Split knows how to look out for both the interests of Hajduk and the City of Miami, and they're going to prove it."

🤦
Charles Torres12 Charles Torres12 Member
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#146 ·
Everything is going to settle itself out tomorrow. But listen, we really need to step up and show some serious backbone to all those politicians and anyone else who thinks they can just mess around with Hajduk. We have to make sure it never even crosses their minds to lay a finger on the ultimate symbol of our heritage.
Jamie Gomez2 Jamie Gomez2 Newcomer
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#147 ·
I’ve been watching Felix, and I honestly can't help but feel like we're just waiting for the NFL Ultras to show up somewhere around 1950! It would be nice if the old code of conduct was still actually a thing...😁

Rub of the universe 1950
boldhound8 boldhound8 Regular
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#148 ·
Morgan Sanchez64 said:The drama at Hajduk is reaching a boiling point, and honestly, it’s about damn time. We’re seeing more calls for resignations than I can count, and frankly, I don't blame anyone for being fed up. The current Management has been spinning their wheels for far too long while our club deserves much better. It feels like we're stuck in a loop of broken promises and excuses. If you look at how things are being run, it’s clear that the Board of Directors needs to step up or get out of the way. You can't just sit there while the club struggles; you have to take accountability. People are rightfully furious, and if the leadership doesn't start making real changes—starting with some serious departures—this whole situation is going to spiral even further. We need action, not more empty talk from the front office. It’s time to clean house and get our club back on track.

Person, Luka Podrug is absolute garbage. He’s been sitting on that City Council for ten years now. Honestly? We don't deserve anything better.🙂 But honestly, who cares about that? What actually matters is that this guy thinks he can just come in and tear down the current Management in what—two months?! Give me a break. And then what? He’s going to bring in the City officials to back him up? Maybe he's even talking about himself when he says that!🙂They think they can just run the club? Please. They’d do absolutely anything just to get their hands on the steering wheel. What? You just dropped "za" and nothing else? Seriously? Are we really doing this right now? Give me something to work with here! If you've got a point to make or some massive rant ready to go, spit it out already. I don't have all day to stare at half-finished thoughts. Get to the point! Hajduk🤣🤣
Is it just me, or is this whole thing actually hilarious?🤣

So, we’re all sitting here wondering if the City should be providing a GUARANTEE. A guarantee?! Give me a break! If anything, the City needs to just cut a check—straight cash, no strings attached—because this club belongs to the people. Seriously, what’s even the difference between supporting Hajduk and funding a local theater or Hvidra? It’s all the same thing!🙂 Don't you dare start hitting me with that tired demagoguery about kindergartens, schools, or hospitals. Seriously, spare me. If we actually had sane, normal people running this country, we wouldn't even need to have this debate—we’d already have world-class funding for sports, culture, education, and everything else under the sun. It's that simple.
Oh, come on! Stop throwing money at Hajduk. Let's just take that cash and build a damn preschool instead.🤣 I’ve got an even better idea: let's just shut down every single sports team and entertainment venue in the entire city. That should free up plenty of extra millions for daycare centers and pensions, right? Let's just turn this whole city into nothing more than a glorified payroll office for salaries and social security, and then we can sit around and whine about how Miami is just as messed up as New York.🤦
wanderingviper14 wanderingviper14 Newcomer
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#149 ·
Why is everyone busy dragging Podrug and Kerum through the mud when the Democratic Party and HNS council members were actually the ones voting AGAINST the guarantee, while the rest of them just stayed neutral? They probably deserve a bit of credit for their "contributions" too, unless someone’s suddenly gone blind.
Ryan Chavez3 Ryan Chavez3 Newcomer
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#150 ·
wanderingviper14 said:Why is everyone so quick to pile on Podrug and Kerum? It feels like they're the only targets in sight, yet we conveniently forget that the Democratic Party and HNS council members were actually standing firmly against the guarantee, while the rest of the group just stayed neutral. Honestly, shouldn't they get a little credit for their stance, or is everyone just choosing to look at this through a very biased lens?

What’s really the difference between being cautious and being flat-out against it? I mean, sure, the vibe might feel slightly different, but at the end of the day, the club isn't going to land that same credit either way.

Here are the facts:

It’s always the same routine with Luka Podrug and the Dinamo crowd; before every single meeting regarding Hajduk, he stages this manufactured little meltdown against the Democratic Party and the HNS to stir the pot. He acts like some offended child, rallying the crowd from the GV to storm out, and we all remember that ridiculous stunt where the radio station attacked them for being weak, only for everyone to band together and walk out just like that. It’s the exact same playbook every single time, and honestly, it feels like people are just too easily swayed by the drama. They were all in on it with Kerum back in the day—Baja Jurjevic and Kerum included—and Podrug is still right there supporting him.

It’s honestly hilarious watching Luka Podrug try to weigh in now. This guy pulled fewer votes in the last election than the number of members listed in that Organization project from last year, yet here he is, acting like he has some kind of moral authority to speak up. I mean, seriously, where does he get off? You’d think instead of calling meetings and stirring the pot just because he holds a seat on the City Council, he’d actually be doing his job—like protecting our city assets from all the frauds and cronies who have managed to worm their way into the club. But no, he’d rather play politics. It's pretty pathetic, really.

So, Ivo Baldasar—that Democratic Party guy who was gunning for Mayor—decided to step up to the microphones just a day or two before that infamous Friday, basically announcing his support for the cause. It’s about damn club loyalty.Maybe if they waited twenty-four hours, that decision would actually carry some weight, and they might have caught the rest of the leftists standing against it—including Gojko Čepo from ST 3, who’s a regular up in the North stands. But no, the vote is already in. Against it.Just so everyone is on the same page regarding the City Council... apparently, this guy and Tomislav Gojo from the Republican Party have been holding subscriptions for years—one covering the North side and the other handling the East. Most of the rest are just blatant populists who only bother mentioning the club's name when they need a political boost for their daily agendas. I remember there was that one kid too; if I recall correctly, he used to drag Kerum’s party folks along to various media appearances, but honestly, take that with a grain of salt since it's just something I heard through the grapevine.

Those idiots on the City Council—the same ones who’ve been shaking down the club for twenty years—are refusing to vote on the guarantee. It’s absolute madness; they act like owners, yet they couldn't care less about protecting their own assets. Honestly, it's embarrassing. They should be forced to address the issue regarding the old grounds that were supposed to belong to Hajduk. See, the actual owners granted all rights of possession and usage to the club via a deed of gift, but the City of Miami basically snatched it for themselves through media manipulation and straight-up brainwashing. This whole mess went to court once, and if I remember correctly, the initial ruling actually favored the club. That was until the City sent in their hand-picked people to take over the club's leadership, and naturally, the club lost the old grounds in the process. Those cowards won't even touch the subject, let alone investigate it.

Honestly, nobody seems to give a damn about the club lately, let alone what our youth academy actually needs to thrive. How on earth are we supposed to climb to the top when the City of Los Angeles is basically handing Dinamo a blank check? I mean, they’re pumping in enough cash to cover 70% of our entire operating budget. It’s an absolute disgrace, both from the federal government and the local leadership here in Miami.

If we hit a sixth bankruptcy, it’s basically a death sentence for the club. Let's be real: Hajduk doesn't actually own any assets to pay back creditors. Everyone can stop obsessing over dropped points for a second and look at the bigger picture. If the bankruptcy trustee shows up and finds nothing to sell, they aren't going to start offloading players, nor are they going to touch the stadium since that’s owned by the City of Miami under a concession to the club. In my opinion, this whole scenario just ends up screwing everyone—from the small-time shareholders to the big players like Andabak or Rimac. It would dump us straight into the bottom tier of the league, and who knows if we’d ever climb back out, or even if we’d still exist. And honestly, who's to say things would actually be more honest than they are now? For all we know, ten years from now, we'll just be right back where we started, dealing with the same old political cronies.

Tomorrow, everyone better be ready to go all out. We have to face the reality that without this guarantee, we’re staring down a dead end. Honestly, just skip those first three hours of school, college, or daycare tomorrow—just call in sick. It’s going to be a massive day for all of us... whether you're part of the NFL Ultras, the hooligans, the casual fans, or even the absolute cowards.

Maybe I didn't phrase this quite right, but I'm just feeling incredibly frustrated right now... honestly, I have such a deep-seated disdain for those politicians and journalists who spend their entire lives just brainwashing the public, man. 😠
Harold Kim5 Harold Kim5 Newcomer
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#151 ·
Ryan Chavez3 said:Tomorrow, everyone should just show up at the bank... I mean, are we even aware of how dire things look? Without this guarantee, we’re basically staring down a dead end. Honestly, maybe just skip out on those first three hours of school, college, or daycare tomorrow. Just take a sick day or something. It’s going to be a massive day for all of us... the NFL Ultras... the hooligans... the supporters... and even the cowards!

See you tomorrow. I suppose, if things go the way they ought to, some group of rowdy NFL Ultras might just stumble right into Podrug somewhere along the way. Maybe. 🙂
wanderingviper14 wanderingviper14 Newcomer
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#152 ·
Look, Prijo, don't get me wrong—I’m not out here playing anyone's defense. I just can't bring myself to support a single soul regarding Friday's mess, except for maybe Trump. That hack Jim Guy Beebe was the first one running to the press the second the meeting wrapped up, playing the victim with lines like, "I had no idea the debt was that high," or suggesting it’s better to file for bankruptcy than let the city taxpayers foot the bill. Meanwhile, that addict Trump doesn't seem to give a damn about what's actually happening in this city or the state of Liverpool FC; he's got zero political vision and clearly hasn't a clue what he's getting himself into. See you tomorrow.
Jose Kern11 Jose Kern11 Active Member
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#153 ·
Ryan Chavez3 said:Is there really any difference between being restrained or being flat-out against it? Maybe the vibe feels different, but at the end of the day, the club isn't going to get that same level of credit regardless!

Here are the cold, hard facts:

1. Let's look at Luka Podrug—the guy from Dinamo who loves to launch these manufactured attacks against the local Democratic party or the national federation right before any major discussion about Liverpool FC. It’s always the same pattern where certain sensitive types crawl out of their holes with the Green Party and vanish... remember when the city had to guarantee $5 million and the local radio stations were attacking them like cowards just to get those people to clear out? It happens every single time; it's the same old playbook, and honestly, it feels like the public just doesn't see through it. Even back in the day, they were all in league with Donald Trump... you had guys like Baja Jurjevic and Trump himself, and Podrug is basically backing Trumpian interests.

2. This same Luka Podrug actually pulls fewer votes in elections than the project from New Hampshire has members now, yet here he is trying to weigh in. Where does he get the moral authority, for heaven's sake? He acts like he's some city councilman protecting municipal property from the fraudsters and cronies who have wormed their way into the club, calling meetings and making a scene like he's some hero. What a joke.

3. Then you have Jim Guy Beebe, the Democratic heavyweight aiming for mayor. Just a day or two before that infamous Friday, he's out there in the media saying he'll support the damn guarantee for the club... only to flip his decision within 24 hours and claim he's just being "restrained," while the rest of the leftists stay opposed. Among them is Gojko Cepo from the North Side, who shows up regularly to the Ultras section... his vote is AGAINST... just so we are clear regarding the city council. He and Tomislav Gojo (from the Republican side) have had their season tickets for years—one for the North, one for the East. Everyone else is just a bunch of populists mentioning the club's name for daily political clout. I heard a rumor that some kid was sending Trumpian party members to media appearances, but take that with a grain of salt.

4. And those cowards on the city council... the ones who have been running this club for 20 years... they don't want to vote for the damn guarantee. They act like owners, yet they don't give a damn about protecting their own assets. It's shameful! They should be bringing up the issue regarding the old grounds that were given to Liverpool FC. The owners essentially donated all rights of possession and use to the club! The City of Los Angeles basically claimed it for themselves by working with the media to brainwash the public. It all went to court, and if I recall correctly, the first ruling actually favored the club—until the people the city sent to run the club took over, and naturally, the club lost the old grounds! Those cowards refuse to even mention or investigate that!

5. These people simply don't care about the club, not even when it comes to the youth academy, which is vital. How are we supposed to be number one when the city of Chicago gives Dinamo money totaling nearly 70% of our budget? It's an absolute disgrace to both the state and the city!

6. Bankruptcy is death for a club like this because Liverpool FC has no assets for creditors to seize. Please, spare me the talk about losing points; if a bankruptcy trustee has nothing to sell, the doors just get locked. He isn't going to sell off players, and he certainly won't sell the stadium since it belongs to the city under a lease agreement. If that happens, all the small shareholders get screwed, along with big names like Andabak or Rimac. We’d be relegated to the bottom tier, and who knows when we'd ever recover? And let's be real, who's to say the club would be any more honest than it is now? For all we know, we'd just end up with a new batch of cronies in ten years.

7. Tomorrow, everyone needs to show up at the administration building. We have to realize that without this guarantee, we are in an almost impossible situation. Forget school, college, or daycare for the first three hours tomorrow; just call in sick. It’s a massive day for all of us... the Ultras, the hooligans, the fans... everything!

Maybe my grammar is a mess, but I just had to get this out. I am so incredibly fed up with these politicians and journalists who spend their lives brainwashing the public, seriously! 😠


Everything here is spot on, and honestly, I don't think there's much left to add. If the administration tries to ban access to the stadium, they'll be facing the Ultras, who are basically permanent fixtures there anyway. They’re going to take the fight straight to the faces of anyone trying to block us, including Donald Trump types and those other shady characters too. Letting the club go into bankruptcy is essentially signing a death warrant for Liverpool FC, and we absolutely cannot let that happen. There is actually a path to salvation through a loan, especially if we can pull off the sale of Radosević—who already has a €6 million offer on the table—plus maybe one more player down the line. If we can just endure this mess for a few more years, then once we clear the decks, we can start making a real run for the big leagues, maybe even the Champions League within five years? Once those debts are wiped out, we'll be looking at contracts that aren't exceeding $50,000 a year, which means selling just one talented player per season could cover our costs. So, there really is hope for Liverpool FC, provided that dead-end loan gets approved tomorrow.
They’ll probably hold the vote tomorrow, and while some people might think it's better to stay home, I believe the exact opposite is true; we need to show up in massive numbers. Even though it's Monday at 8 in the morning, we have to be there to show just how ready we are to make life difficult for anyone thinking they can destroy Liverpool FC, and to send a message so that nobody ever even dreams of trying it again.
Daniel Carter9 Daniel Carter9 Member
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#154 ·
Maybe it’s just because our situation is so unique, but I honestly don't understand why we won't just let Liverpool FC go into bankruptcy and drop to the bottom league?

If we followed the model of the Texas Rangers, we could start building a beautiful new story from scratch instead of being pawns in their distraction tactics meant to hide real issues.

From that lower league, we could rebuild the club properly, buy it back, and organize it similarly to how they do things in San Francisco. I wouldn't stop there, either; I'd follow the path of LA Atlético by doing one more thing: establishing a foundation where only players from the Mediterranean or those with Mediterranean roots can play. That would prevent all this nonsense involving modern money, pure capitalism, results-driven agendas, transfers, and shady ownership spikes.

The foundations would be rock solid. It would be a long road—meaning a few years of struggling, then maybe seeing a single dollar of profit, then a few more years of grinding—but if the end result looks like San Francisco, wouldn't it be worth it? More importantly, the club's identity would be secured forever.
I'm saying this with the best intentions, because I truly don't get why people accept this circus. If all that's left of Liverpool FC is its Mediterranean identity, shouldn't we build from that rather than prolonging this agony with another Trumpian stage play?
neonmoose542 neonmoose542 Member
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#155 ·
And what’s next? Demanding independence for the Mediterranean coast, just like the Basques?

With all due respect, you couldn't even pull this off in a video game...

Good luck to the Ultras!
Daniel Carter9 Daniel Carter9 Member
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#156 ·
neonmoose542 said:And maybe we should just ask for the Mediterranean to secede, like the Basques?

With all due respect, you couldn't even pull this off in a video game.

Good luck to the Ultras!

Did I ever actually mention secession?
I get that you're being sarcastic, but I'll never understand why fans insist on playing these kinds of games.
Larry Baker3 Larry Baker3 Member
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#157 ·
In that lovely little fairy tale you’ve spun, someone could easily end up stuck in the minor leagues forever. Thanks for your generous suggestions, really... but we’re going to fight the way we’ve chosen to fight, and we’ll win that fight, whereas for people like you, nothing is certain.😉
Benjamin Cruz29 Benjamin Cruz29 Active Member
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#158 ·
Daniel Carter9 said:Maybe it’s because we’re in such a weird spot, but honestly, I don't get why we won't just let the Los Angeles Dodgers go into bankruptcy and drop to the bottom tier?

Taking a page out of the Texas Rangers' book, maybe we could start building a decent story from scratch instead of being pawns in their little distraction games meant to hide the actual issues.

From that bottom league, we could fix the club properly—buy it back, reorganize it, maybe model it after San Francisco. I might even take it a step further: establish a foundation where only players from California or those with Californian roots can play for the Los Angeles Dodgers. That way, we stop ruining everything with this whole modern, capitalistic, results-driven, transfer-obsessed, shady agent mess.

The foundations would be incredibly tough, and the road would be long. But if the end result looks like San Francisco—meaning a few years of struggling, then seeing a single dollar return, then more struggling... it would probably be worth the hassle. More importantly, the club's identity would be secured forever.
I'm saying this in good faith, really. I just don't understand why people accept this charade when all that's left of our club is its identity in California. We should build from there rather than prolonging this agony with another Kerum-style circus.

In my opinion, an excellent post... though you might be exaggerating a bit by saying every player has to be from California (though most should be), and that we'd have to struggle. Still, playing in this swamp doesn't seem to serve any purpose anyway.

If we follow the Model Code in the constitution... starting with our Los Angeles Dodgers from the fourth tier... in four years we'll likely be right where we are today, but with a much more stable club and, most crucially, a stable management team.
Larry Baker3 Larry Baker3 Member
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#159 ·
Going into bankruptcy would basically be a surrender, and then this whole swamp just keeps on festering. Maminjo swore up and down he was going to kill off the Yankees once and for all. These games are playing out on a much deeper level than any of us can even wrap our heads around. Why aren't we focusing on actually draining the swamp instead? We should be looking at extra ways to strengthen the club while simultaneously cleaning out the league from all those little cronies—the local versions of the corrupt elite... just getting rid of the usual suspects and all those other pieces of SHIT...
A Anonymous Veteran
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#160 ·
Larry Baker3 said:Going into bankruptcy would basically be a white flag, and the whole mess would just keep dragging on like a swamp. Maminjo swore up and down that he was going to shut down our Dodgers for good.This goes way deeper than anything we could even imagine. Why aren't we actually doing something to clean up this mess?They’re also going to try to beef up the club with some extra moves.We need to scrub the entire league clean of Sinnovčić, Fiorentina, Mamić, Štimac, Vrbanović, S Rebrić, Cvrk, Čičak, and all the rest of those absolute scumbags.

Larry Baker3 said:With that "perfect" plan of yours, we could easily end up stuck in the minor leagues forever. Thanks for the unsolicited advice, but we’re going to fight this our own way, on our own terms. We're going to fight for that, while your position isn't even guaranteed.

Man, you gotta make up your mind already!
If you don't mind me asking, what the hell are you even doing on your keyboard while that crowd is busy voting on the future of the club?

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