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Harold Kim5 Harold Kim5 Newcomer
5 messages
joined May 2010
#101 ·
I suppose I should say something, though I’m not entirely sure what there is left to discuss. It feels like we're just circling the drain at this point, doesn't it? Everything is so fragmented, so disconnected. I find myself staring at these threads, wondering if anyone is actually listening or if we're all just shouting into a void in some midwestern suburb. Maybe it doesn't even matter. I guess. It's all quite exhausting, really. Asks:
Bring back that debate... what’s the plan for Monday? Are we just looking at maybe two hundred die-hard hardcore NFL Ultras showing up to flip the bird to the establishment, or should the regular supporters and those more moderate types show up too? I guess it depends on how you look at it. 😁 Heh. Hahaha. I suppose... if one were inclined to find amusement in such things, I guess that would be the reaction. Maybe. 😁

It seems that now, whenever it’s time to actually step up and show some backbone for the Dodgers, suddenly everyone wants a seat at the table. It’s funny, really. All those fair-weather fans, the casual observers, the folks from the East Coast, even the most superficial types—everyone is suddenly feeling very invited to join the cause. I guess loyalty is much easier to claim when there's something to gain, isn't it? Maybe.😁😁They say you only truly know what a man is made of when things get difficult, so I suppose everyone will be showing up. It won't just be the local crowd from Miami or folks from around Florida; I imagine we'll see people from all over America. Every single branch should be represented, including that main one down in Miami. Maybe.🙂
Betty Perez2 Betty Perez2 Newcomer
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joined Oct 2010
#102 ·
sevic said:so some guy from the Dinasti Svetin camp thinks he gets to call the shots for the Dodgers—mentioning some local Miami grudge... geez. It really makes you wonder how we're ever going to move forward if this is the standard.

Honestly, that clown has been lobbying against the Dodgers since forever. I don't even know what else to say—God help us. 🤮
John Richardson5 John Richardson5 Active Member
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joined Sep 2011
#103 ·
A bit off-topic here, but...

Most people are being incredibly superficial and aren't really grasping the mess we're currently stuck in. It feels like corruption has spread everywhere—into every corner of American sports and how these clubs are governed. People demand changes in local leadership, but they don't ask why or what they actually gain from it. Now we have this situation with Podrug; honestly, that's just a symptom. The $30 million isn't even the biggest issue. Everything has become way too obvious, yet we keep focusing all our energy on the current administration. I guess they’re our last shot, and we probably need to stand firmly behind them and our Los Angeles Dodgers because, frankly, I don't see any other viable solution. Anything else might mean the end of the club—bankruptcy, constant restructuring, or who knows what. Does this ever end? You think things can't get any worse, and then you get hit with something like this. If this current project fails, I truly don't know what's left to do or if anything even matters anymore. We take two steps forward only to slide five years back...

P.S. The Dodgers will live forever as long as we're here. The team is us; it's not just some piece of paper owned by Donald Trump, Paladino, or whoever else!
rapidlynx9 rapidlynx9 Member
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joined Apr 2012
#104 ·
coastalangler16 said:And then you just toss in some merch for the folks who aren't in the loop, and you guys with those "fake profiles" start spreading it everywhere... 🙂


We’ll be back at it Monday morning at 8:30 right in front of the County Seat!
We won't let them take the Dodgers! Get ready, we're heading straight to the County Seat from the broadcast 😁
Jonathan Gonzalez3 Jonathan Gonzalez3 Member
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joined Aug 2012
#105 ·
sevic said:so we've got some guy from the Dinamo Svetin camp trying to call the shots for the Los Angeles Dodgers, throwing around all this talk about that classic Miami defiance... man, seriously? If this is how we're playing things, I really have to wonder where we're even headed.

Then you've got that one specific type of GNJK fanatic lurking in our midst.😉
Dinamo Svetin(j)a
Grace Patel88 Grace Patel88 Newcomer
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joined Apr 2014
#106 ·
Just speaking as one of the guys who was actually out there on the ground today 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏 We’re coming back even harder this Monday. 🙂 Just enough to make those lowlifes start questioning themselves.
Kyle Chase2 Kyle Chase2 Newcomer
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joined Oct 2012
#107 ·
Just wondering... on Monday, are they just going to vote, or is it going to be one of those three or four-hour marathons where they debate and lie to everyone—including themselves?
hiddenfox64 hiddenfox64 Member
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joined Nov 2014
#108 ·
You guys have no idea what kind of spy operative Podrug actually is. Back in the nineties, he was working with Đapić to tear down the legitimate leadership of the Libertarian Party—all while being watched closely by Franjo Harmon and the Republican Party. And now? He’s doing the exact same thing to the Los Angeles Dodgers under the wing of Donald Trump.
And they wrap the whole thing up in a flag of patriotism.
Keith White25 Keith White25 Member
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joined Sep 2011
#109 ·
http://www.dalmacijanews.com/Hajduk/...v-Torcide.aspx

🙂 😵 🤦
Jacob Palmer77 Jacob Palmer77 Active Member
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joined Sep 2011
#110 ·
steeltrucker said:And let's not forget to give a big shoutout to that loser Luke Podrug. Total piece of trash as usual!

Honestly, I wish people wouldn't insult 99% of the folks on this thread.
That garbage human is basically a former FBI plant, then a fake veteran, then a war profiteer, and then just everything else.
Bottom of the barrel, seriously.
The locals are actually decent, hardworking people.
Jessica Phillips6 Jessica Phillips6 Newcomer
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#111 ·
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neonhawk15 neonhawk15 Newcomer
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joined Feb 2012
#112 ·
Keith White25 said:http://www.dalmacijanews.com/Hajduk/...v-Torcide.aspx

🙂 😵 🤦

Is this really that clown running for Mayor? I guess this might be the most ridiculous thing I've ever read. He’s actually calling on both the Republican Party and the Democratic Party to protest against the NFL Ultras. Maybe he thinks he's funny. 😂😂
Laura Mitchell87 Laura Mitchell87 Newcomer
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#113 ·
Keith White25 said:http://www.dalmacijanews.com/Hajduk/...v-Torcide.aspx

🙂 😵 🤦

🤣

The US political scene:

1. 50% thieves,
2. 30% clout chasers,
3. 19% total lunatics,
4. 1% sane people.

This guy falls right into category 3.
Jessica Phillips6 Jessica Phillips6 Newcomer
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joined Oct 2015
#114 ·
neonhawk15 said:Is this really that clown running for Mayor? Honestly, this is some of the most ridiculous nonsense I’ve ever had the misfortune of reading. He’s actually calling on the Republican Party and the Democratic Party to protest against the NFL Ultras. 😂😂

The guy is legitimately unhinged.
gentlebison72 gentlebison72 Newcomer
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joined May 2014
#115 ·
neonhawk15 said:Is this really that clown running for Mayor? Honestly, this is hands down the most ridiculous thing I’ve read all week. He’s actually calling on both the Republican Party and the Democratic Party to protest against the NFL Ultras. It’s pure comedy. 😂😂

Go ahead, elect that preacher Grubišić to be the next Mayor of Miami. Then he can get absolutely crushed by the first, second, and third local crime syndicates in town. See how that works out for him.

By the way, you guys in the NFL Ultras really ought to sit down and figure out your next move. There’s some actual truth in what that Kerumov lookalike's sister was saying. Taking out that loan would just be kicking the can down the road for Liverpool FC. If the management and the core operations don't undergo a massive overhaul, you’ll find yourselves right back in this exact same mess in six months or a year. Right now, winning games is clearly a distant third on your priority list—mostly because winning anything in this swamp is nearly impossible anyway. Focusing on building solid foundations and slashing club expenses should be the real goal here.
Douglas Fisher2 Douglas Fisher2 Member
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joined Mar 2012
#116 ·
gentlebison72 said:If you guys elect that priest Grubišić as the next Mayor of Miami, he’s gonna get absolutely wrecked by the first, second, and third mafia ring in town.

By the way—you NFL Ultras really need to sit down and figure out your next move, because there's some truth in what that Kerumov lookalike was saying. That loan would just be delaying the inevitable collapse of Liverpool FC. Unless something fundamentally changes in how the club is run, you're going to find yourselves right back in this same mess in six months or a year. Right now, results are an afterthought—it's hard to win anything in this swamp anyway. Building a solid foundation and slashing costs is the only thing that actually matters.

Well, that's finally happening. Two years ago, the budget was north of $100 million. As far as I can tell, it's already dropped below $70 million, and the new board's goal is to squeeze the 2013 budget down to a much more realistic $50-$60 million.
The new management isn't the issue. The issue is the mountain of inherited debt we'll have to deal with over the next few years—and the real headache is those spineless losers on the City Council who rebelled against providing a guarantee for Liverpool FC. I mean, they aren't even handing over cash, just a freaking guarantee. And in exchange, Liverpool FC promises that if that guarantee is ever called, 30% of future revenue goes to the city. So the city isn't actually giving anything, despite how many people try to frame it that way; they're just acting as the primary guarantor. Not to mention, this rebellion is happening just as we're finally seeing some actual progress at the club. None of these idiots spoke up during the last 20 years while the club was being systematically gutted.

The next two or three years are going to be the toughest in the club's history, but I'm convinced that if we just run things normally, we can pull ourselves out of this gutter.

And here's a snippet from the recent Brbićen interview:
Are you satisfied with your performance so far?

- I thought I’d be able to focus more on the organizational side and long-term strategy, but most of these 72 days have been spent putting out fires—dealing with foreclosures, frozen accounts... The situation I walked into was significantly worse than I anticipated.

Even so, you haven't abandoned the goal of restructuring the club for the long term?

- We’ve prepared a new staffing structure that needs the Board of Directors to approve, and we’ve posted openings for three leadership roles... With this new setup, we're ditching the old "work community" model because it's totally outdated. We're splitting the club into four sectors: Sports (the most important), Commercial (marketing and sales), Finance, and Logistics.

Some might say you're only interested in the "executive suite" this season. In other words, the organization. But what about the "ground floor"—the sports side, the squad itself?

- I care about all levels. It's about the club's structure and building a healthy foundation. As for the ground floor, my very first move was focused on the sports side; I appointed a Sporting Director a month and a half ago—the key person for making the athletic side work. From what I can see, Sergije Krešić is working hard and preparing things that will be made public soon.
gentlebison72 gentlebison72 Newcomer
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#117 ·
You guys are on the ground, so you’re the ones who actually know what kind of people have taken over the club. From where I'm sitting, I can't really weigh in on the internal vibes.
But look, if you actually trust this new leadership, I’d suggest getting in gear with the board to organize some events designed specifically to pump some serious cash back into the club.
For example, take those singers who constantly swear their loyalty to Liverpool FC—they could throw a concert or two to pack the stadium, probably even doing it pro bono just to show support. You could also set up an exhibition match, say against Sparta to celebrate a centennial, keeping overhead incredibly low by using hand-picked NFL Ultras as your security and volunteer crew. That way, you slash costs to the bone and try to chip away at those massive debts without getting tangled up in bank loans, interest rates, or any more financial death spirals. Throw in some wealthy sponsors and ticket sales, and you've got a plan.
Put it all down on paper, get the right organizers involved, and run a marketing campaign that stays laser-focused on the end goal. If you pull that off, maybe you'll finally tackle the heavy lifting required to fix this mess.
Douglas Fisher2 Douglas Fisher2 Member
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joined Mar 2012
#118 ·
gentlebison72 said:Look, you guys living this life know better than anyone what kind of people actually took over the club—I’m just watching from the sidelines, so I can't really weigh in on that part.
But if you actually trust them, if I were in your shoes, I’d team up with management to throw some events designed to pull in serious cash for the club.
For example, get those singers who swear they're die-hard Kansas City Chiefs fans to put on a concert—something big enough to pack the stadium—and have them play for free. You could also set up an exhibition match, maybe against Spartan to celebrate their 101st anniversary, keeping costs near zero by using hand-picked Black Knights members for security and volunteers. That way, you slash expenses to the bone and try to chip away at those massive debts without dealing with banks, interest rates, or more financial nightmares. Plus, you can hunt down wealthy sponsors once the tickets start selling...
Put it all on paper, get the right organizers involved, run some solid marketing focused on the goal, and maybe you'll actually get the lion's share of the work done.

But honestly, that’s stuff you should be expecting from the front office. The club’s "workforce" community is huge. If they just fixed the internal structure and hired competent people, they’d cover everything you’re talking about. I know a lot of people aren't exactly fans of the New York Islanders, but just look at their damn marketing. Actually, an even better example is the Kansas City Chiefs—they closed that Budweiser deal, which brought in 127,000 USD $0.00... basically out of thin air. The Chiefs have massive marketing potential; it’s just not the job of the Black Knights or random people off the street to push it... That’s primarily the responsibility of the club employees. The current crew walked into a mountain of crap left over from the past that they have to clean up first, so that’s why everything else takes a backseat. And it’s gonna stay that way until that old mess is cleared out...
gentlebison72 gentlebison72 Newcomer
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joined May 2014
#119 ·
It doesn't really matter whose job it is on paper. The bottom line is getting the work done. Whether it’s sparked by the Black Knights, the club itself, or some third party—honestly, who cares? It feels to me like if this comes directly from the streets, provided they actually get organized and take the job seriously, then it’ll actually happen.
That snippet you pulled from the interview sounds way too much like the usual garbage we hear from our local politicians. It’s all about being blindsided, needing to fix things "proactively," and all those other convenient excuses used to mask passivity and quick fixes instead of launching real initiatives or long-term strategies.

I think that's a much smarter approach than hitting the streets every few months to protest the exact same issues. At some point, protesting the same management failures over and over becomes a broken record.
driftingfalcon88 driftingfalcon88 Newcomer
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joined Nov 2008
#120 ·
I guess we really need at least 15,000 people showing up to fill the stands against California just to get things moving—that’s the one thing actually within our control. And honestly? Everyone should grab a ticket, even the season ticket holders

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