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Singapore Grand Prix - Sep 25, 2011

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stormybadger8 stormybadger8 Veteran
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#401 ·
Raymond Ortiz89 said:Look, I know you’ve got nothing but love for Ferrari🤣 but seriously, what’s the deal with Massa? What did he even do to deserve this much hate?

All this whining about how Lewis Hamilton could have caused some massive accident with that move? Give me a break. Sure, Lewis was being his usual overconfident self—it’s pretty clear the guy has zero sense of where his car actually ends—but let's be real. It wasn't even close to a major wreck, and there was no way it was going to turn into some horrific disaster.🙄

Honestly, the Rosberg vs. Perez duel was way more intense. This Hamilton vs. Massa situation? It was basically nothing—just a total misjudgment and a standard racing incident. If anything, Massa took a bigger hit from it than Hamilton did. But hey, that’s racing. They aren't freaking ballerinas; they shouldn't be whining every time there's the slightest bit of contact between cars, jebote.🙄

darkmarlin16 said:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abS5_hSryis

Man, seriously... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEUVZXR18_4
Honestly, he kind of deserved a solid slap right across the face for that one. 😳

And darkmarlin16 says it too—Lewis definitely should’ve just walked all over Massu. ☕
darkmarlin16 darkmarlin16 VeteranOP
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#402 ·
stormybadger8 said:All this whining about how Lewis Hamilton could have caused some massive accident with that move? Give me a break. Sure, Lewis was being his usual overconfident self—it’s pretty clear the guy has zero sense of where his car actually ends—but let's be real. It wasn't even close to a major wreck, and there was no way it was going to turn into some horrific disaster.🙄

Honestly, the Rosberg vs. Perez duel was way more intense. This Hamilton vs. Massa situation? It was basically nothing—just a total misjudgment and a standard racing incident. If anything, Massa took a bigger hit from it than Hamilton did. But hey, that’s racing. They aren't freaking ballerinas; they shouldn't be whining every time there's the slightest bit of contact between cars, jebote.🙄

And darkmarlin16 says it too—Lewis definitely should’ve just walked all over Massu. ☕

Massa reacted like that because this guy has basically screwed over his race for the umpteenth time already this year, jebote.😠

Honestly, Massa should have absolutely leveled Hamilton.☕
Raymond Ortiz89 Raymond Ortiz89 Active Member
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#403 ·
stormybadger8 said:All this whining about how Lewis Hamilton could have caused some massive accident with that move? Give me a break. Sure, Lewis was being his usual overconfident self—it’s pretty clear the guy has zero sense of where his car actually ends—but let's be real. It wasn't even close to a major wreck, and there was no way it was going to turn into some horrific disaster.🙄

Honestly, the Rosberg vs. Perez duel was way more intense. This Hamilton vs. Massa situation? It was basically nothing—just a total misjudgment and a standard racing incident. If anything, Massa took a bigger hit from it than Hamilton did. But hey, that’s racing. They aren't freaking ballerinas; they shouldn't be whining every time there's the slightest bit of contact between cars, jebote.🙄

And darkmarlin16 says it too—Lewis definitely should’ve just walked all over Massu. ☕

Look, I totally get where you're coming from, but honestly, how many times is Lewis Hamilton going to completely derail a race for Massu? It’s getting ridiculous at this point. It isn't just about how he treats Massu, either—there have been way too many other incidents that have gone sideways.

That penalty is honestly a joke. You get slapped with some ridiculous time penalty, only to end up popping out right in front of the driver you actually penalized in the first place? It makes zero sense. If they really wanted to punish someone, they should just tell them to leave the pits 25 seconds behind Massu Massa and deal with the consequences then. Just screw it.
hollowgull5 hollowgull5 Active Member
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#404 ·
Raymond Ortiz89 said:Look, I know you’ve got nothing but love for Ferrari🤣 but seriously, what’s the deal with Massa? What did he even do to deserve this much hate?

So what's the deal with Hamilton being such a total joke... 😕
Just your run-of-the-mill racing incident, honestly... nothing worth making a huge deal out of...
And honestly, what the hell is Massa even looking for? Like, seriously, what does he think he’s going to gain by pushing for them to hand out a penalty on this one...
Crybaby number two...
hollowgull5 hollowgull5 Active Member
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#405 ·
For crying out loud, it’s not just the Ferrari drivers acting like total crybabies...
even the fans are being absolute whiners 🤣
stormybadger8 stormybadger8 Veteran
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#406 ·
Raymond Ortiz89 said:Look, I totally get where you're coming from, but honestly, how many times is Lewis Hamilton going to completely derail a race for Massu? It’s getting ridiculous at this point. It isn't just about how he treats Massu, either—there have been way too many other incidents that have gone sideways.

That penalty is honestly a joke. You get slapped with some ridiculous time penalty, only to end up popping out right in front of the driver you actually penalized in the first place? It makes zero sense. If they really wanted to punish someone, they should just tell them to leave the pits 25 seconds behind Massu Massa and deal with the consequences then. Just screw it.

Seriously, if someone pulls an idiot move like that, they should lose 25 points, get slapped with a 2-lap penalty, pay a million bucks, and be forced to sit in the middle of the Paddock while Jenson Button and Fernando Alonso laugh at them.
Nobody would complain about a penalty like that, but this incident doesn't warrant a penalty 🙂

No, you don't get it. By any damn logic, it shouldn't be. This is just the FIA making fools of themselves, nothing more. 🙂

God, what kind of twisted logic is this? Mark Webber didn't get punished for doing something twice as stupid at the last race when he slammed into Massa. And why didn't Massa act tough toward Webber? You know why—because he's a coward. He knows if he tried to push Webber, Webber would break his nose, and not even his own mother could save him from that.☕
Amanda Kelly Amanda Kelly Regular
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#407 ·
stormybadger8 said:Seriously, if someone pulls an idiot move like that, they should lose 25 points, get slapped with a 2-lap penalty, pay a million bucks, and be forced to sit in the middle of the Paddock while Jenson Button and Fernando Alonso laugh at them.
Nobody would complain about a penalty like that, but this incident doesn't warrant a penalty 🙂

No, you don't get it. By any damn logic, it shouldn't be. This is just the FIA making fools of themselves, nothing more. 🙂

God, what kind of twisted logic is this? Mark Webber didn't get punished for doing something twice as stupid at the last race when he slammed into Massa. And why didn't Massa act tough toward Webber? You know why—because he's a coward. He knows if he tried to push Webber, Webber would break his nose, and not even his own mother could save him from that.☕

A middle finger to the FIA deserves a drive-through penalty.
That absolute trash needs a multi-race suspension. Maybe that would be enough to cool down his lizard brain for a second. At least he'd try.

Repeat offenders are the worst kind of people. Standard penalties don't work on them. You need to isolate those types from society.
crimsonstag84 crimsonstag84 Regular
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#408 ·
It almost sounds like you're saying Lewis Hamilton is intentionally sabotaging his own races and everyone else's too. 🙄

I guess he’s just struggling to focus, who knows why... this is just one more bad call in a long string of them. Hopefully, he pulls himself together soon. 😢
Ryan Gomez4 Ryan Gomez4 Active Member
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#409 ·
stormybadger8 said:Seriously, if someone pulls an idiot move like that, they should lose 25 points, get slapped with a 2-lap penalty, pay a million bucks, and be forced to sit in the middle of the Paddock while Jenson Button and Fernando Alonso laugh at them.
Nobody would complain about a penalty like that, but this incident doesn't warrant a penalty 🙂

No, you don't get it. By any damn logic, it shouldn't be. This is just the FIA making fools of themselves, nothing more. 🙂

God, what kind of twisted logic is this? Mark Webber didn't get punished for doing something twice as stupid at the last race when he slammed into Massa. And why didn't Massa act tough toward Webber? You know why—because he's a coward. He knows if he tried to push Webber, Webber would break his nose, and not even his own mother could save him from that.☕

You're spot on, man. 😍
Jason Campbell70 Jason Campbell70 Veteran
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#410 ·
crimsonstag84 said:It almost sounds like you're saying Lewis Hamilton is intentionally sabotaging his own races and everyone else's too. 🙄

I guess he’s just struggling to focus, who knows why... this is just one more bad call in a long string of them. Hopefully, he pulls himself together soon. 😢


Who cares about his personal struggles? If he can't handle the car, there are plenty of drivers waiting in the wings to take his seat.

I won't be as harsh as Amanda Kelly, but I agree. There needs to be some kind of escalation in penalties when a driver keeps causing incidents race after race—incidents that cost both him and his rivals their positions.

Do they really plan on handing out drive-through penalties forever? 🙄
Raymond Ortiz89 Raymond Ortiz89 Active Member
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#411 ·
hollowgull5 said:For crying out loud, it’s not just the Ferrari drivers acting like total crybabies...
even the fans are being absolute whiners 🤣

Hahaha, 🤣🤣🤣
we’re actually the bigger bunch of whiners here, you just haven't realized it yet.
I'm done fighting with you people; there's just no point when I can't even begin to open your eyes. 🤷Amen.
stormybadger8 stormybadger8 Veteran
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#412 ·
Amanda Kelly said:A middle finger to the FIA deserves a drive-through penalty.
That absolute trash needs a multi-race suspension. Maybe that would be enough to cool down his lizard brain for a second. At least he'd try.

Repeat offenders are the worst kind of people. Standard penalties don't work on them. You need to isolate those types from society.

Look, I agree he needs to chill and the previous penalties were way too light.😳

Personally, I think he deserved a black flag in Monaco, but this incident with Massu doesn't really fall into that category for me.🤷

I don't see any malice or anything else here; it just looks like a bad call by Lewis Hamilton. It’s just a typical racing incident.
It’s no different from the Sergio Perez vs Michael Schumacher duel (though honestly, Damon Hill should have been penalized there, even if neither deserved it) or Sergio Perez vs Nico Rosberg.

Amanda Kelly, calm down with the fanboy rage and look at the facts. What you wrote above isn't even okay, and I wouldn't expect that kind of stuff from you.😢
hollowgull5 hollowgull5 Active Member
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#413 ·
Raymond Ortiz89 said:Hahaha, 🤣🤣🤣
we’re actually the bigger bunch of whiners here, you just haven't realized it yet.
I'm done fighting with you people; there's just no point when I can't even begin to open your eyes. 🤷Amen.


maybe try opening your own eyes first...😉
Amanda Kelly Amanda Kelly Regular
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#414 ·
stormybadger8 said:Look, I agree he needs to chill and the previous penalties were way too light.😳

Personally, I think he deserved a black flag in Monaco, but this incident with Massu doesn't really fall into that category for me.🤷

I don't see any malice or anything else here; it just looks like a bad call by Lewis Hamilton. It’s just a typical racing incident.
It’s no different from the Sergio Perez vs Michael Schumacher duel (though honestly, Damon Hill should have been penalized there, even if neither deserved it) or Sergio Perez vs Nico Rosberg.

Amanda Kelly, calm down with the fanboy rage and look at the facts. What you wrote above isn't even okay, and I wouldn't expect that kind of stuff from you.😢

Yeah, I’m pissed.
copperpuma11 copperpuma11 Member
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#415 ·
It’s like watching a parade of school buses filled with toddlers and pregnant women. The only goal is getting everyone to the destination safely without any chaos.
Maybe they should just install turn signals and start handing out tickets for tailgating?

Personally, I found Lewis Hamilton incredibly irritating when he was brought into a top-tier team as a rookie and hyped up as the next ten-time world champion. After that kind of brainwashing, it’s a miracle he isn't even worse.
Once Jenson Button secured the title, the pressure from the British media died down and things finally stabilized. He can still pull off impressive moves in the car, but he also tends to mess things up quite often.
For comparison, a driver like Nico Rosberg could jump into Vettel's car, win a championship without making a scene, and then walk away from Formula 1. I wouldn't have missed him. Same goes for Damon Hill, the younger Jacques Villeneuve, and guys like them.

So don't sweat it too much. Because of Michael Schumacher, Lewis Hamilton, and people like that, it's still worth watching the races.
steelmaker83 steelmaker83 Active Member
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#416 ·
All things considered, it was an interesting race, even if some people are acting like total cowards about it...

It’s a bit irritating seeing Vettel driving a car that lets him overtake on the grass and gain 10 seconds in just five laps, but I guess that’s just how it goes; even luck like that can't last forever.

The biggest disappointment of the season has to be Lewis Hamilton. This is easily his worst performance since he joined Formula 1—way worse than that year he took the title, and he wasn't even driving particularly well back then.

Button is a breath of fresh air. If he had Lewis Hamilton's raw pace today, he'd be right there fighting for the podium, but you can't have everything.

Now we can finally settle in for 2012. This season felt like it ended before it even started; we barely finished the first race and now we're stuck watching the last five in basically highlight reel mode.

The last hope for any actual excitement is Lewis Hamilton. He’s basically performing like a circus monkey on a tricycle at this point—still a likable guy, though.
mistybear87 mistybear87 Regular
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#417 ·
I suspect this dominance is going to stick around until 2014. Once those new regulations kick in, that's when we'll actually see which teams have the real engineering grit to step up. Maybe McLaren or Ferrari will finally find their footing over the next couple of seasons, or perhaps Brawn will cook up something revolutionary behind closed doors. But as it stands? Red Bull is just untouchable, much like how Ferrari seemed to own the sport about a decade ago. 🙂

But hey, that’s just how it goes, right? Every era eventually reaches its expiration date. One day, the tide will turn. 😉
ruggedfox28 ruggedfox28 Regular
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#418 ·
mistybear87 said:I suspect this dominance is going to stick around until 2014. Once those new regulations kick in, that's when we'll actually see which teams have the real engineering grit to step up. Maybe McLaren or Ferrari will finally find their footing over the next couple of seasons, or perhaps Brawn will cook up something revolutionary behind closed doors. But as it stands? Red Bull is just untouchable, much like how Ferrari seemed to own the sport about a decade ago. 🙂

But hey, that’s just how it goes, right? Every era eventually reaches its expiration date. One day, the tide will turn. 😉

Wait, wasn't that from 2013...? 🤔
hollowgull5 hollowgull5 Active Member
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#419 ·
pathetic
darkmarlin16 darkmarlin16 VeteranOP
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#420 ·
insanely

One of the absolute legends of Formula 1, Michael Schumacher managed to walk away from a massive wreck right in the middle of the Singapore Grand Prix.

I mean, come on, it's not like he was supposed to die there 🙄

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