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Singapore Grand Prix - Sep 25, 2011

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steelmaker83 steelmaker83 Active Member
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#421 ·
darkmarlin16 said:insanely

One of the absolute legends of Formula 1, Michael Schumacher managed to walk away from a massive wreck right in the middle of the Singapore Grand Prix.

I mean, come on, it's not like he was supposed to die there 🙄


Classic journalistic sensationalism. Just chasing clicks...
nimblesurfer17 nimblesurfer17 Active Member
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#422 ·
stormybadger8 said:Look, I agree he needs to chill and the previous penalties were way too light.😳

Personally, I think he deserved a black flag in Monaco, but this incident with Massu doesn't really fall into that category for me.🤷

I don't see any malice or anything else here; it just looks like a bad call by Lewis Hamilton. It’s just a typical racing incident.
It’s no different from the Sergio Perez vs Michael Schumacher duel (though honestly, Damon Hill should have been penalized there, even if neither deserved it) or Sergio Perez vs Nico Rosberg.

Amanda Kelly, calm down with the fanboy rage and look at the facts. What you wrote above isn't even okay, and I wouldn't expect that kind of stuff from you.😢

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I don't get why he was even penalized. It was a bad call, a racing incident—just move on...
They are totally overdoing it with these penalties. Like someone else mentioned, at this rate, they'll be penalizing drivers just for failing to maintain a specific following distance!🤮
And yeah, I'm just waiting for them to hand Grandpa a five-place grid penalty at the next race—now that would be a real hit.🙄

As for that news from RTL's...🤦
Nowadays, it feels like absolutely anyone can write the news...🙄 He managed to survive.🤦
Edward Miller9 Edward Miller9 Member
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#423 ·
ruggedfox28 said:Wait, wasn't that from 2013...? 🤔
analogpilot16 analogpilot16 Member
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#424 ·
If it weren't for Hamilton and Schumacher, we’d all just be watching a lullaby on TV again. With all those billions flowing through this sport and the massive paychecks these drivers pull in—I want actual entertainment on my screen!
Out of the rest of these amateurs, Webber was the only one who actually managed to overtake Alonso once; everything else has been about as exciting as watching paint dry—just two hours of circling the track, wow 🙄.
Hamilton was out there making moves all day yesterday, while Massa—given the millions he's pocketing—should either shut up or just head home. He’s spent his entire career playing second fiddle, and now he’s complaining that Lewis ruined his race. Honestly, he ruined his own career because he simply isn't good enough for anything else.
I want raw, unfiltered racing and a real show. Right now, Lewis is pretty much the only one among the leaders providing any action, and even Schumacher is trying to make things interesting—as for all that tactical maneuvering and "sportsmanship," I couldn't care less.
stormybadger8 stormybadger8 Veteran
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#425 ·
analogpilot16 said:If it weren't for Hamilton and Schumacher, we’d all just be watching a lullaby on TV again. With all those billions flowing through this sport and the massive paychecks these drivers pull in—I want actual entertainment on my screen!
Out of the rest of these amateurs, Webber was the only one who actually managed to overtake Alonso once; everything else has been about as exciting as watching paint dry—just two hours of circling the track, wow 🙄.
Hamilton was out there making moves all day yesterday, while Massa—given the millions he's pocketing—should either shut up or just head home. He’s spent his entire career playing second fiddle, and now he’s complaining that Lewis ruined his race. Honestly, he ruined his own career because he simply isn't good enough for anything else.
I want raw, unfiltered racing and a real show. Right now, Lewis is pretty much the only one among the leaders providing any action, and even Schumacher is trying to make things interesting—as for all that tactical maneuvering and "sportsmanship," I couldn't care less.

The only reason we ever move past names like Hamilton, Schumacher, and Webber is because some part of the operation absolutely screwed up.

Honestly, F1 is a joke these days. There’s zero action on the track unless someone completely screws up—you know, like a classic Webber start, one of Schumacher's qualifying disasters, or Hamilton just doing his usual thing with starts and overtakes.

Look, if McLaren, Mercedes, or Red Bull end up sitting outside the top ten, it’s totally obvious why there'd be a massive amount of overtaking. It’s simple math. Those big teams can easily slice through the field to pass Williams, Sauber, Renault, RB, or Haas. But when they're fighting each other? That’s where things actually get difficult.😳

Basically, if you're looking for actual drama, you might as well just flip all of F1 upside down.🙂
Those qualifying tires are basically disposable. They're lightning fast for exactly two laps, then they're completely shot.

Points system (race): 100-80-60-50-40-30-20-10-5-1
Here’s how the qualifying points would look under this system: 100-80-60-50-40-30-20-10-9-8-7-6-5-4-3-2-1.

The race itself starts with a reversed grid, meaning whoever grabbed the last pole position spot starts at the front and works their way back.☕

It’s going to be a total circus. Guaranteed.☕
steelmaker83 steelmaker83 Active Member
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#426 ·
stormybadger8 said:The only reason we ever move past names like Hamilton, Schumacher, and Webber is because some part of the operation absolutely screwed up.

Honestly, F1 is a joke these days. There’s zero action on the track unless someone completely screws up—you know, like a classic Webber start, one of Schumacher's qualifying disasters, or Hamilton just doing his usual thing with starts and overtakes.

Look, if McLaren, Mercedes, or Red Bull end up sitting outside the top ten, it’s totally obvious why there'd be a massive amount of overtaking. It’s simple math. Those big teams can easily slice through the field to pass Williams, Sauber, Renault, RB, or Haas. But when they're fighting each other? That’s where things actually get difficult.😳

Basically, if you're looking for actual drama, you might as well just flip all of F1 upside down.🙂
Those qualifying tires are basically disposable. They're lightning fast for exactly two laps, then they're completely shot.

Points system (race): 100-80-60-50-40-30-20-10-5-1
Here’s how the qualifying points would look under this system: 100-80-60-50-40-30-20-10-9-8-7-6-5-4-3-2-1.

The race itself starts with a reversed grid, meaning whoever grabbed the last pole position spot starts at the front and works their way back.☕

It’s going to be a total circus. Guaranteed.☕

And don't forget the water cannons spraying along the track...
stormybadger8 stormybadger8 Veteran
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#427 ·
steelmaker83 said:And don't forget the water cannons spraying along the track...

No point. This would be plenty enough🤣
darkmarlin16 darkmarlin16 VeteranOP
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#428 ·
So, if they actually ran the race with a reversed grid—basically meaning whoever grabbed the last spot in qualifying starts up front and works their way back—it would be a total circus.

And honestly, how would that even affect anything? 🙄Everyone would just be timing their qualifying laps to hit right at 10 PM
Frank Collins85 Frank Collins85 Active Member
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#429 ·
darkmarlin16 said:
So, if they actually ran the race with a reversed grid—basically meaning whoever grabbed the last spot in qualifying starts up front and works their way back—it would be a total circus.

And honestly, how would that even affect anything? 🙄Everyone would just be timing their qualifying laps to hit right at 10 PM

And they'd actually be awarding points for qualifying too.🙂
crimsonstag84 crimsonstag84 Regular
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#430 ·
stormybadger8 said:The only reason we ever move past names like Hamilton, Schumacher, and Webber is because some part of the operation absolutely screwed up.

Honestly, F1 is a joke these days. There’s zero action on the track unless someone completely screws up—you know, like a classic Webber start, one of Schumacher's qualifying disasters, or Hamilton just doing his usual thing with starts and overtakes.

Look, if McLaren, Mercedes, or Red Bull end up sitting outside the top ten, it’s totally obvious why there'd be a massive amount of overtaking. It’s simple math. Those big teams can easily slice through the field to pass Williams, Sauber, Renault, RB, or Haas. But when they're fighting each other? That’s where things actually get difficult.😳

Basically, if you're looking for actual drama, you might as well just flip all of F1 upside down.🙂
Those qualifying tires are basically disposable. They're lightning fast for exactly two laps, then they're completely shot.

Points system (race): 100-80-60-50-40-30-20-10-5-1
Here’s how the qualifying points would look under this system: 100-80-60-50-40-30-20-10-9-8-7-6-5-4-3-2-1.

The race itself starts with a reversed grid, meaning whoever grabbed the last pole position spot starts at the front and works their way back.☕

It’s going to be a total circus. Guaranteed.☕

darkmarlin16 said:
So, if they actually ran the race with a reversed grid—basically meaning whoever grabbed the last spot in qualifying starts up front and works their way back—it would be a total circus.

And honestly, how would that even affect anything? 🙄Everyone would just be timing their qualifying laps to hit right at 10 PM

😉

EDIT: lol H 😁
stormybadger8 stormybadger8 Veteran
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#431 ·
darkmarlin16 said:
So, if they actually ran the race with a reversed grid—basically meaning whoever grabbed the last spot in qualifying starts up front and works their way back—it would be a total circus.

And honestly, how would that even affect anything? 🙄Everyone would just be timing their qualifying laps to hit right at 10 PM

Qualifying would actually award points, unlike the race, where we'd be scoring all 20 drivers.

Winning 101 points isn't the same thing as grabbing 200.😉

Sure, there’d be some tactical nonsense about qualifying 10th just to make winning easier, which nets you 108 points. But that still doesn't guarantee you're leading the pack. If someone takes PP 100 and finishes 7th, they've got 120 points. Go ahead, try your little tactics—if that person hits 4th or 5th, they'll absolutely bury you in the standings.😉

EDIT: This idea is starting to sound pretty dumb.😁
darkmarlin16 darkmarlin16 VeteranOP
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#432 ·
Honestly, if you ask me, trying to rank qualifying sessions is just plain stupid
stormybadger8 stormybadger8 Veteran
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#433 ·
darkmarlin16 said:Honestly, if you ask me, trying to rank qualifying sessions is just plain stupid

It’s stupid if the person who takes pole starts 1st, but it makes zero sense to award points for pole if you end up starting 24th.☕

Look at this season. Vettel would have bagged pole points 11 times, sure, but actually winning 9 races? Yeah, right. That’s a much harder mountain to climb. Meanwhile, the smaller teams might actually stand a chance at a win or a podium just by playing the tactics game better.😳
mistybear87 mistybear87 Regular
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#434 ·
stormybadger8 said:Qualifying would actually award points, unlike the race, where we'd be scoring all 20 drivers.

Winning 101 points isn't the same thing as grabbing 200.😉

Sure, there’d be some tactical nonsense about qualifying 10th just to make winning easier, which nets you 108 points. But that still doesn't guarantee you're leading the pack. If someone takes PP 100 and finishes 7th, they've got 120 points. Go ahead, try your little tactics—if that person hits 4th or 5th, they'll absolutely bury you in the standings.😉

EDIT: This idea is starting to sound pretty dumb.😁

What if they just held two separate races in a single day?🙏
stormybadger8 stormybadger8 Veteran
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#435 ·
mistybear87 said:What if they just held two separate races in a single day?🙏

Twice in Singapore🤣

I think the drivers would just drop dead.😳

Twice in Valencia😱

I'm pretty sure a thousand fans would pull the plug on themselves every single year.🤣
mistybear87 mistybear87 Regular
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#436 ·
stormybadger8 said:It’s stupid if the person who takes pole starts 1st, but it makes zero sense to award points for pole if you end up starting 24th.☕

Look at this season. Vettel would have bagged pole points 11 times, sure, but actually winning 9 races? Yeah, right. That’s a much harder mountain to climb. Meanwhile, the smaller teams might actually stand a chance at a win or a podium just by playing the tactics game better.😳

What if we just messed up qualifying entirely and had two races instead? In the first race, everyone starts based on the championship standings, and in the second, you start in reverse order based on how the first one finished.

You’d essentially have the same dynamic, just without all the headache of complicated qualifying strategies, wouldn't you?😉
mistybear87 mistybear87 Regular
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#437 ·
And yeah, we've actually got one race on Saturday and then another one on Sunday 🙂
darkmarlin16 darkmarlin16 VeteranOP
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#438 ·
mistybear87 said:And yeah, we've actually got one race on Saturday and then another one on Sunday 🙂

if you want stuff like that, just go watch GP2☕
Jason Campbell70 Jason Campbell70 Veteran
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#439 ·
hollowgull5 said:pathetic


What exactly is pathetic?

Look at the United Kingdom Grand Prix this year. That final corner... Hamilton hits Massa multiple times, forces Massa off the track, and "walks away" with an extra position.

A penalty? None.
In the very same race where the collision was caused by understeer—and in the rain, no less—the driver wasn't even given a drive-through penalty, just a stop 'n' go.

Oh, right. It's the United Kingdom Grand Prix, and the unpunished driver is a Briton, just like the chief steward.

Now *that* is pathetic.
nimblesurfer17 nimblesurfer17 Active Member
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#440 ·
mistybear87 said:What if we just messed up qualifying entirely and had two races instead? In the first race, everyone starts based on the championship standings, and in the second, you start in reverse order based on how the first one finished.

You’d essentially have the same dynamic, just without all the headache of complicated qualifying strategies, wouldn't you?😉

Personally, I’ve been making this same point for a few years now—both in real life and here on the forums—that we should just scrap qualifying entirely...
Let the races start in reverse order of the current championship standings.
So, for example, Sebastian Vettel would start last in the next race, Jenson Button would be second to last, and so on—while the HRT fans and Virgin fans would actually be sitting right there in the front two spots!
Now, that would certainly make things interesting—talk about a party!
☕ 😁

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