Die-hard Ultras / Hardcore Supporters

Why is everyone freaking out all of a sudden? Just let the guys do their thing... if you’ve got such a big problem with it, then get off the sidelines and beat them yourselves. I'm really hoping we can find some middle ground between the total extremists and people who just don't give a damn.😉

This kind of move should have been made a year ago instead of settling for half-measures. It’s just the natural progression of things... and honestly, everyone needs to stop being so dramatic. Anthony earned his retirement and deserves some time to clear his head; there’s been a total revolution over the last decade that we can all be proud of, and he was a huge part of that. He’s getting older, and even in the stands, our group has more kids than adults now. Just imagine, we’ve been holding down the northeast corner for years, and we aren't going anywhere. Now we need to be smart about this—we need to maintain order and upgrade the incredible foundation we built through our support, while fixing whatever didn't work in the past. Let's be smart about 1950

Look, you just can't run a whole cheering section without someone holding down the pole. It’s impossible. Especially during those massive rivalry games...

The absolute dream scenario would be having three or four guys rotating shifts to keep things moving.

Jerry Gray5 said:I honestly find it strange that nobody has written a book about the old (the actual, real deal, because anything else would be fake since everything was "so much more colorful" back then) Red Army yet..

...nice one, kid.👍

wearyorca75 said:Man, if that jersey is blinding you, you clearly haven't even seen the damn thing up close.🤣

What jersey are we even talking about?🤣🤣

Christian Moore41 said:man, the old Red Army 🤣

...come on, stop messing around, I'm the oldest member of the Red Army. Period.🧐

What a total circus this city has become. Everyone’s out there buzzing, claiming Lekic isn't the "leader" anymore!!!
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This forum is a total circus

...things have always been changing, they're changing now, and they’ll keep changing. It really just comes down to whether you can accept that shift and adapt to it. On an individual level, maybe if someone puts in a little extra effort, they can learn to accept another person, but I guess that takes years of maturity. Life works the same way. I’ve actually thought about writing a book covering the entire history of our Ultras—from the oldest, most ancient eras to the newest, modern generation—but I’ll probably just leave that to all the different Laceys out there.
Steve, props to you for cheering, but life moves on. Maybe now you can get involved in other fan aspects that you’ve been too hesitant to touch all this time. My head is spinning; honestly, what happened yesterday felt a little sad to me, though given your age, I suppose you could just call it part of being an old-school regular—you know, the old guard, vintage wine, and all those classic vibes.🤣 But you aren't dead yet, damn it.🤷
GO SEATTLE!!!

rustyangler122 said:EVERYONE IN SEATTLE!!!

TAKE EVERYTHING THAT MOVES!!!!
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I honestly meant what I said 😬
In all seriousness, I’d actually buy your book, even if it isn't about the Ultras. 🙂 Screw Lacey

Daniel Carter9 said:JUST THROW EVERYTHING INTO THE MIX!!!!
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I mean, I guess I should probably 😬
But seriously, I’d actually buy your book, even if it wasn't about the Ultras. 🙂 Screw Lacey.

...🤣 and then the entire profit just goes toward buying the latest high-end audio gear🤣

The landscape is shifting, though I’d argue it’s primarily the negative elements that are evolving rather than the positive ones. My concern lies in whether the good qualities within the Ultras have undergone a similar transformation, because that is where the real issue resides.

I can't help but feel that the changes were necessary; in fact, they were probably for the best. That said, I truly believe the secretary did a more than respectable job regarding the supporters. You have to take your hat off to him, honestly. I highly doubt you could find anyone within the Ultras—and I mean on a much broader scale—who would show up to every single damn game, clinging to the railings and pushing themselves that hard to keep the spirit alive. He certainly had his flaws, but they weren't significant enough to warrant being ousted from that position.

If things continue on this current trajectory, the entire supporter culture is going to collapse. It’s a fundamental truth that you can't have a functional movement without a central leadership—someone to steer the ship—and frankly, there isn't a single organized ultras scene left in Europe that operates without a clear leader at the helm.

When it comes to the other segments, there is clearly a vast amount of room for improvement, and we’ll just have to wait and see how the team handles the responsibilities they've taken on. Let's give them some time to work through it.

There was far too little effort put into fostering actual cohesion between the teams; everyone was simply too preoccupied with their own individual tasks, which, as Jessica Long8 noted, ultimately weakened our collective strength. group Solidarity is everything.

I only have one thing I want to point out here. I’m not sure how many of you actually attended the match against the Lakers, but even their coach remarked on it after the whistle blew; he noted that he had never witnessed such a profound synergy between the crowd and the players. For sixty minutes straight, the flares were lit, the energy in the stands was electric, and the entire stadium seemed to vibrate in unison—whenever the players pushed, the fans responded, and whenever they scored, the atmosphere reached a fever pitch. That is exactly why we are here, and that is why we cheer. Fans exist to lift the club up; if we forget that and start treating our own presence as an end in itself, we will burn out before we know it. Yesterday, however, the atmosphere at the arena felt entirely different, almost hollow, lacking that vital connection between the squad and the supporters. We would all do well to remember that.

The East Side is where it's at.
We should put up a barrier behind the goal to separate the sections, with the Ultras taking over the northeast and everyone else filling in from the middle toward the northwest.
And let’s make sure no one under 18 gets into the North section.

dustywolf92 said:The East Side is where it’s at.
We need a barrier behind the goal—put the Ultras in the northeast corner, then everyone else from the middle toward the northwest.
And honestly, maybe don't let anyone under 18 into the North section.

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Since we’re always talking about those old Tony Stark books, what happened to Smith's memoirs? Anyone heard if they're actually getting published, or is there even a digital version floating around somewhere? Like a PDF or something?
Multimedia 1950

Matthew Wood8 said:The Northside crowd has basically just been a bunch of kids for the last two years trying way too hard to act like the old school Tony Stark. The real deal is out East. Honestly, those guys and the Boys could probably take you all out before breakfast. Such a joke...

That’s really it... even if you combined everyone else together... the East Side is pure evil.

I’m not exactly celebrating your current situation; you’ve hit your peak, and now comes the inevitable crash.
And you haven't even realized how deep the hole actually is.

Stipe, take care of yourself!

Bunar 1950

Ryan Scott16 said:I’m certainly not celebrating your current situation—you’ve hit your peak, and now there's nothing left but the descent.
And you have no idea just how deep the hole actually is.

Stay safe out there, Stipe!

Multimedia 1950

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Don't worry—we won't be heading down there to keep you company. 😉

Jesse Campbell said:If you ask me, it’s pretty idiotic how much weight you're giving to that Velcro guy—that fat sack of garbage being bankrolled by the USSF. But as for the flares? Honestly, more power to them... 🙏

I honestly don't understand how this kind of thing flies with you people, for crying out loud. Back home, the repression feels like something straight out of Nazi Germany.

I have no intention of typing anything about Jews, but when someone acts this brainless, I feel compelled to step in...
What exactly are you trying to say with this photo? Who is it that bothers you and your little band of followers when you light up flares like this? You truly disgust me with these kinds of provocations. Just yesterday, we were down ten people, yet most of them walked away with "only" a one-year sentence...

Gary Green32 said:only the bad things are changing, not the good ones. The real issue is whether the good stuff regarding the Ultras has been altered too.

I certainly don't think changes weren't necessary; some were actually quite good. But I’d argue the secretary did a more than solid job regarding the supporters. Honestly, anyone can take their hat off to him, and I highly doubt you could find someone within the Ultras—even in a much broader sense—who would spend every single damn game clinging to the railings and pushing so hard to lead the chant. He had his flaws, sure, but they probably weren't enough to justify losing his spot on the front lines.

If the situation stays this messy, the supporter segment will inevitably collapse. As someone once mentioned, there needs to be a leader, and there isn't a single group left in Europe without organized leadership.

As for the other departments, there is plenty of room for improvement, and we'll just have to see how the guys who took charge handle it. Let's give them some time.

There wasn't enough work done on unity between the different squads; everyone was too focused on their own business, which weakened The Group. Unity is everything.

I just want to point out one thing. I don't know how many of you were at the matchup against the New York Giants, but even the Giants' coach said something similar. He mentioned he'd never seen such synergy between the crowd and the players. For 60 minutes, the flares were going, the fans were roaring, the stadium was electric; when the team pushed, they scored, and the stadium went even wilder. That’s why we’re here. That’s why we cheer. Fans exist to help the club. If we forget that and become an end in ourselves, we'll burn out fast. Yesterday, the atmosphere at the stadium was totally different; that synergy between the players and the fans just wasn't there. Just remember that.

I agree...