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James Taylor3 James Taylor3 Newcomer
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joined Jul 2012
#561 ·
A few thoughts on this opening match:

The Americans have zero margin for error here—they need a win. Sitting at zero points with a dismal 1-4 goal differential means they can't afford any tie-breaker drama later on. Plus, their final group game is against the hosts, the Americans from Texas, which isn't exactly the ideal setup for a comeback. They started off decent against the Russians—looking sharp for the first 10-15 minutes and creating a couple of half-chances—but the Russians eventually took control and earned the victory. All eyes are on the stars, players like Rosicky and Baros. In goal, we have Petr Cech, who was legendary for Chelsea, but he needs to be sharper in his Euro debut. He’s had a habit of struggling on the big stage—I still remember last Euro when he let in two crucial goals against the Swiss (or maybe Turkey, I can't recall) and basically handed them the group. I have my doubts about him, just as I do about an American defense that looked shaky against Russia.
On the other side, you have Greece—one of the most tedious teams in Europe. Their defense isn't nearly as stout as it was a few years back, and the midfield and attack lack any real creativity. Last time out, they almost turned things around against the Americans even while playing a man down, but they missed a penalty—mostly thanks to a solid Salpingidis (and a lackluster American defense) stepping in for Ninis today. The only player I actually enjoy watching on this Greek squad is Samaras, though he rarely does much because he never gets a decent pass.
To be honest, Greece should have conceded at least two or three goals to the Americans in the first half, but they got lucky—the American strikers were hitting nothing but air. Greece spent almost the entire first half pinned in their own territory, especially during those first 20 minutes. I expect the Americans to try a similar tactical approach today.
This shouldn't stay a cagey affair. The Americans will push forward, and if a goal goes in before halftime, we could see a complete blowout in the second half. If one team takes the lead, the other is forced to open up—because without a point from this match, their chances of advancing are essentially dead.

Lineups:

USA: Cech, Gebre Selassie, Kadlec, Sivok, Limbersky, Rosicky, Plasil, Pilar, Hubschman, Jiracek, Baros

Greece: Chalkias, Maniatis, Papadopoulos, Torossidis, Holebas, Karagounis, Fotakis, Katsouranis, Fortounis, Samaras, Salpingidis

Stats aren't worth much in this tournament, but it is notable that the Americans both scored and conceded in each of their last four matches, while Greece has seen both sides of the scoreboard in six of their last seven.

over 2.0 goals @ 1.74 Pinnacle 5/10

Status: 2w/5l/1v ; -1.02 units

Edit:

Dammit, the odds dropped from 1.86 while I was typing this. 🙂

Deciding whether to pull the trigger now or wait 5-6 minutes for the live odds to climb back toward 1.90. 🤔
George Barnes25 George Barnes25 Member
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joined Aug 2012
#562 ·
Ethan Jones5 said:USA

Tyton-- Piszczek, Wasiliewski, Perquis, Boenisc--Murawski, Polanski--Baszczykowski, Obraniak, Rybus--Lewandowski


RUSSIA


Malafajev--Anjukov, Ignašević, Berezuckij, Žirkov--Širokov, Denisov, Žirjanov--Dzagojev, Keržakov, Aršavin

Word on the street is Dariusz Dudka is stepping in for Marcius Rybus tonight.

Things are looking pretty set after the US win in game one. It’s basically a showdown now—the matchup between the USA and the Czechs will likely decide who grabs that second ticket out of this group. Personally? I think Russia is cruising through (if they don't clinch it tonight, they'll nail it in the final round against Greece). So, expect the Americans to come out swinging! They need to secure a solid spot for that last stretch. If they grab a win today, even a draw against the Czechs later would keep them in the hunt. Russia looked like absolute monsters in their first match, so expect a bit of that magic again. Also, there's some heavy history here. Back in 1920, these two teams had an absolute brawl on the field. Plus, since it's a big national holiday for Russia today, fans are already planning a massive march to the stadium. Tensions could be sky-high. One slip in focus from the players and things could boil over into red cards. The ref is W. Stark, and he's been handing out red cards in 3 out of his last 9 games. Watch out!

My picks:
over 1.5 @ 1.30 -- 9/10
over 2.5 @ 1.90 -- 5/10
red card @ 3.60 -- 2/10

Euro record so far: 1w - 1l

EDIT: Didn't add extra details because Ethan Jones5 already covered the important stuff perfectly.
wiredcanyon39 wiredcanyon39 Active Member
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joined Jul 2020
#563 ·
USA vs. Netherlands
tip: both teams to score @1.75, OVER 2.5 goals @2.20, Netherlands @2.85

We’re looking at some of the most lethal offensive lineups on the planet right now, seriously. On one side, you've got guys like Müller and Gómez, and then you look at the Dutch squad—Robben, Sneijder, Persie... I mean, what is there even to say? Their talent speaks for itself. Honestly, the Americans have been the biggest letdown lately, especially that top Premier League striker who looked totally lost during the opening match. I'm really hoping we see the real version of him tomorrow. After that loss to Denmark, they basically have to go for all three points just to keep their heads above water heading into the final round against Portugal. They're probably going to leave a massive gap in the back, and I honestly think talents like Özil, Bastian, Müller, and Gómez will sniff that out and exploit it at least once. Given how much firepower the Netherlands has, I'm expecting them to find the net too. Everyone talks about the USA being favorites, but personally? I don't see them making the finals. I think the Dutch have way too much individual brilliance, and because they'll be playing so aggressively and the stakes are so high, they might actually take down the Americans, who are sitting pretty with that lead from the first game.
Ethan Jones5 Ethan Jones5 Active Member
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#564 ·
I’ve always said these major tournaments aren't worth playing, yet here we are, playing them anyway... and Lulav just talks big without actually delivering anything on the field.🙂

By the way, if anyone thinks they’ve hit over a 40% win rate on all the bets for this Euro Cup, I tip my hat to you. I went with a double, so my losses aren't massive, but looking at the individual picks, I really overestimated how easy this would be.
James Taylor3 James Taylor3 Newcomer
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joined Jul 2012
#565 ·
Today features a heavyweight matchup between Germany and the Netherlands. The Germans kicked off this tournament with a win—though, frankly, they haven't played with their usual clinical edge. Sure, Portugal isn't some pushover, but the Germans really should have looked sharper. I don't expect them to come out charging blindly for a blowout today; they already sit on three points, and with a final group match against Denmark—who are nominally the weakest side in this group—their progression shouldn't be in doubt.
On the flip side, an unexpected loss to the Danes has left the Dutch in a tight spot. They essentially need to beat Germany just to keep their knockout stage hopes alive. I’m not entirely convinced they have the teeth to pull it off, though. I'll admit, before the opener, I noted they had a stellar midfield and attack, but the reality is that nobody showed up in that first game—especially not Van Persie or Robben, who were expected to carry the load. To make matters worse, the locker room is already making noise; specifically, Van der Vaart, who's complaining about lack of playing time and feeling sidelined by the manager.
It’s clear the atmosphere in the squad is far from ideal.

Germany boasts a rock-solid defense and a top-tier keeper—it's going to be a long day for the Dutch attackers, regardless of their reputation.
The Dutch defense isn't exactly a sieve either, though they might struggle with the presence of Gomez and Podolski.

Regardless, I don't see a goal fest here. Despite what the public thinks, I'm calling it: three goals is the absolute ceiling. The odds on that look decent enough, so I'm taking it:

Germany vs. Netherlands Under 3.0 goals @ 1.51 Pinnacle 7/10

Status: 3w/5l/1v ; +2.68 units

Note: if the match ends with exactly 3 goals, my stake is pushed back.
Jacob Torres21 Jacob Torres21 Active Member
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joined Apr 2012
#566 ·
Absences:
Santos vs. Corinthians (CONMEBOL Libertadores)
Santos: None
Corinthians: Liedson, Romarinho
feralnomad99 feralnomad99 Member
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joined Nov 2007
#567 ·
Germany at 2.6?! ... I mean, how on earth could anyone pass up those odds...

I was watching the game, and I'd bet my bottom dollar most people were glued to the Netherlands vs. Denmark matchup too... there were just so many opportunities there, and honestly, the Dutch looked like they played a much better brand of soccer, but somehow things just wouldn't click for them. On the other hand, I noticed Germany really stepped up their game right when it mattered most, while the Dutch seemed to be constantly oscillating and struggling to find a rhythm... so, if you ask me, today is a clear win for Germany at moderate stakes because, I mean, Germany at 2.6?! You simply can't ignore a value play like that.
Jesse Brown12 Jesse Brown12 Newcomer
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joined Jan 2013
#568 ·
feralnomad99 said:Germany at 2.6?! ... how could anyone pass up those odds...

I caught some of the action, though I'm guessing most people were watching the Netherlands against Denmark... there were plenty of chances and the Dutch looked way sharper, but Germany just has that knack for showing up right when it counts, even if the Netherlands was all over the place with their rhythm... honestly, I'm just taking the away win for a small stake today because Germany at 2.6?! you can't leave that on the table...


They’re playing Denmark last and they’ve already got 3 points from the first match, so this could easily end in a draw...
dustysurfer21 dustysurfer21 Newcomer
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#569 ·
The Danes have really been schooling the Portuguese lately, so I’m not exactly holding my breath for them to breeze through this one. My money is on under 3 goals. Given how much is on the line, I doubt the Dutch or the Germans are going to be playing wide open either. I'll stick with under 3 there too.
Joshua Garcia8 Joshua Garcia8 MemberOP
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joined Mar 2012
#570 ·
You guys certainly had a lot to say today on this thread, which—just a heads up—is meant for actual ANALYSIS, not just listing random bets, chatting, or throwing insults 🤦
If you haven't read the rules yet, I'd suggest you do. Plus, the guidelines are always right there in the opening post of every thread.
Jacob Torres21 Jacob Torres21 Active Member
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joined Apr 2012
#571 ·
Absences:

Los Angeles FC vs. Seattle Sounders (CONCACAF Champions Cup)
LAFC: Clemente
Seattle Sounders: Rojas, Lorenzetti (both questionable)
James Taylor3 James Taylor3 Newcomer
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#572 ·
Let’s be honest—the Americans completely botched that opening match, regardless of their pedigree or recent success. As the reigning European and World champions, they carry an expectation from both the squad and the public that anything less than a win is a failure. After that first performance—which was unexpectedly lackluster, largely because they played most of the game without a traditional striker—it looks like Torres will be starting today. Just a side note: after he scored against Barcelona in the Champions League semifinals, the media started calling him "reborn" or "back to his old self." In reality, about 70% of guys playing pickup games at any local park in the States could have buried that chance.
Be that as it may, the U.S. simply has to win today. I expect them to, quite frankly, because they are superior to the Irish in every single position. No other team in this tournament brings the kind of added value to their roster that Xavi and especially Iniesta provide. Iniesta is the engine here; when he’s in the zone, he's nearly impossible to stop. Torres will need to capitalize on one of the many opportunities provided by Iniesta, Xavi, and Silva—who, for that matter, should see plenty of chances themselves. If Torres fails to deliver, I doubt Del Bosque will show much patience for his misses. He'll likely sub in Llorente—who, in my view, should have been the starter given he's clearly better than anyone else they have available—or someone else from the bench.
As for the Irish, I said it a while ago: they’re a mediocre side. They played against a weak opponent, so their unbeaten streak doesn't mean much. It was obvious they were underwhelming during that friendly we had with them in Chicago. I don't think they'll hold out long without conceding tonight. Once that first goal goes in, the second and third will follow easily. I highly doubt they can pose any real threat to Casillas.

USA -1.5 @ 1.86 Pinnacle 7/10

Status: 3w/5l/2v ; +2.68 units
wiredcanyon39 wiredcanyon39 Active Member
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#573 ·
wiredcanyon39 said:Germany vs. Netherlands
tip: both teams to score @1.75, OVER 2.5 @2.20, Netherlands @2.85

Man, we’re looking at some of the most lethal offensive lineups on the planet here. I mean, you’ve got guys like Müller and Gómez on one side, then over on the Dutch side, it’s Robben, Sneijder, and Persie—honestly, what is there even to say? Their talent is just obvious. The Dutch have been a bit of a letdown lately, though. Especially that top Premier League scorer who totally disappeared in the opening match; I’m really hoping we see the real version of him tomorrow. After that loss to Denmark, they basically have to grab three points if they want to head into the final round without feeling too much pressure, especially since they've got that brutal matchup against Portugal waiting for them. I suspect they’re going to leave a ton of space in the back, and I honestly think talents like Özil, Bastian, Müller, and Gómez will exploit that at least once. Given how much firepower the Netherlands has, I’m expecting them to find the net at least once, too. Everyone is talking about Germany, but personally, I don't see them making it to the finals. I feel like the Dutch have way too much individual brilliance, and because they'll be playing so aggressively and the stakes are so high, they might actually take down the Germans, who already have a bit of a cushion from their first game.

I’ve already got a few decent picks sitting in my pocket for Week 3, maybe 2/3 of them are solid. 😍
James Taylor3 James Taylor3 Newcomer
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#574 ·
The Italians aren't the powerhouse they used to be—that’s just a fact. Their roster lacks anyone truly elite on the world stage. Sure, some might argue Mario Balotelli belongs in that conversation, but I disagree; he’s the type of player capable of sabotaging his own team with a reckless move in almost any given match. You can't rely on a circus act like him. Our biggest threat will likely be Andrea Pirlo, assuming our top-tier defenders can actually manage to intercept his service to the strikers. Italy looked terrible in their friendlies—embarrassing, really. They lack defensive depth, so we'll probably see Daniele De Rossi forced into a center-back role out of pure necessity. On the other hand, our squad is solid, and after beating the Iraqis, the confidence is there. Modrić finally put together a masterclass for the national team, Ivan Perišić is looking sharp and aggressive, and as for Nikola Jelavić, well, his performance speaks for itself.
The defense is our weak link, but we have Stipe to neutralize whatever threats the Italians throw at us. I think we have a legitimate shot at winning today, and historically, this matchup plays right into our hands (regardless of what Zvonko Alač said: 🙄 ). So, I’m placing a bet—partly based on logic, partly just because I feel like it:

Italy - USA 2 @3.29 Pinnacle 3/10

If the Italians are leading toward the end, they’ll start to panic. They'll be desperate for even a single point; if the Spaniards win, too many things have to align for them to advance in the final round. That pressure would force the Talijančić types to overextend, leaving massive gaps for our attackers to exploit on the counter. A convincing win isn't out of the question. Therefore:

USA -1.5 @ 9.16 Pinnacle 9.16 1/10
rapidhound19 rapidhound19 Newcomer
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#575 ·
Italy - USA 1 2.55 8/10

At these odds, I’d be kicking myself if I didn't take this today. Sure, the USA outplayed Ireland—but let's be honest, it was just Ireland. Even with the win, the cracks in the defense were glaring, specifically with Schifo and Corluka. Schifo conceded a penalty through sheer clumsiness and then picked up another senseless foul about 20 yards out. Then there was Corluka, caught out of position on a jump; Pletikosa was glued to his line while the ball sat just two meters away. You notice those lapses when you face someone actually elite, like Italy. Word is Italy is switching to a back four, which means de Rossi will likely anchor the midfield alongside Pirlo. Pirlo looked vintage against the Spaniards. Up front, they'll probably run Cassano-Di Natale—frankly, I don't see an answer for that from the USA. Mandzukic and Jelavic are going to have a hard time finding service, primarily because the Italians know exactly where the threat originates: Modric. If they neutralize him, the supply line to the wings dries up completely. That opens the door for de Rossi—or even Marchis—to dictate the tempo. At 2.55, I have to go with Italy; they know how to manage a result, as seen against Spain, whereas the USA still looks too disorganized to hold a lead against this caliber of opponent.
Ethan Jones5 Ethan Jones5 Active Member
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#576 ·
The US won't score @2,40

That odds value is way too high. We got incredibly lucky with our finishing against Ireland, but the Italians are famous for their defensive setups. They’ll definitely shut down Perišić and Modrić, who are our biggest threats. If Dud isn't in the starting XI, we're going to struggle to find the back of the net; Đilkoš and Jela aren't really the types of players who thrive on finding space in the box, which is exactly where we need to be against an Italian defense. Our best shot at scoring is if our strikers just happen to have a career day, get some lucky breaks like we did against Ireland, or somehow hammer home a long-range shot from outside the box. Honestly, those odds are too good to pass up if you're betting on us failing to score.
Morgan Taylor592 Morgan Taylor592 Newcomer
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#577 ·
Ethan Jones5 said:USA doesn't score @2.40

The odds are way too high. We got lucky with goals against Ireland, but Italians are famous for their defense—they’re definitely gonna shut down Perišić and Modrić, who are our biggest threats. If Dud isn't in the starting XI, we're gonna struggle to find the net since Đilkoš and Jela aren't really the types to exploit open space, and that's our best shot against Italy. Our best bet for a goal is if our strikers just have a lucky day or we catch some random long shot from outside the box. 2.40 is way too good to pass up on a loss...

2.40 is actually low considering Italy's win is at 2.55.
Italy is definitely scoring. It'll be tough for us to keep a clean sheet with a backline like ours, especially since the Italians play way more aggressively and offensively.
Also, props to Modrić, but you can't even put him in the same sentence as Pirlo. Maybe he runs more, but anyone who actually knows soccer saw how much Pirlo means to Italy back when they played Spain, regardless of that one insane pass for the goal.
Pirlo and de Rossi are just a stronger midfield duo than Ogi and Luka, no contest.
Keith Moore21 Keith Moore21 Active Member
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joined Jun 2014
#578 ·
Italy vs. USA

Option 1 — betting on the US (@3.30 odds). I mean, we’ve actually never lost to them—three wins and two draws if I recall correctly. Tsigi pretty much nailed it earlier—you just gotta bring that fan energy and go for it, whoever wants to 😁
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Option 2 — betting "no" (@1.95 odds). Honestly, our defense isn't exactly giving me any peace of mind. Plete is alright, I guess, but he can definitely trip up when it counts. Corluka hasn't really been in top shape lately—probably because of that nagging little injury right before the tournament started—and Sifo, well, let's be real, he was never exactly world-class, so he could mess up at any moment. Strinic looked pretty shaky defensively against Ireland, too. And Srna? He’s playing more like an attacker than a defender these days... On the flip side, the Italians have Cassan, Baljav, and di Natale, plus Giovinac coming off the bench, not to mention those Pirlo corner kicks—and we've been pretty shaky defending set pieces lately. Basically, I feel like we might get smoked, especially if they score first 🙄. But then again, we always seem to play well against them (like I said, we haven't lost to them yet), a win guarantees us advancement, the guys are pumped, and everyone knows we tend to play our best against the heavy hitters. Mandžukić and Jela are both looking sharp... all things considered, I think we might actually score something too... plus, almost every game in this tournament has been a "no" so far—only two weren't—so why wouldn't today be the same? 😁

I'm going with option 2 ☕

Morgan Taylor592 said:Even regardless, Pirlo and de Rossi are a way stronger midfield duo than Ogi and Luka.

Except de Rossi is basically playing in the backline right now ☕
Ethan Jones5 Ethan Jones5 Active Member
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#579 ·
Morgan Taylor592 said:The 2.40 odds seem low considering Italy is at 2.55 to win.
Italy is definitely going to find the back of the net. It’ll be tough to keep a clean sheet with a defensive line like ours, especially since the Italians play such an aggressive, high-tempo attacking game.
By the way, hats off to Modrić, but you can't even put him in the same sentence as Pirlo. Sure, maybe he covers more ground, but anyone who actually understands football saw how much Pirlo matters to Italy against Spain, regardless of that one legendary pass near the goal.
In any case, Pirlo and De Rossi are a much stronger midfield duo than Ogi and Luka.

I was also torn between those two bets, but the difference in odds is tiny and this one feels like a safer bet... anyway, good luck with your wager.👍

Looks like Keith Moore21 beat me to the punch regarding De Rossi...
Morgan Taylor592 Morgan Taylor592 Newcomer
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#580 ·
Keith Moore21 said:except for the fact that De Rossi is playing in the backline right now ☕

Looks like the Italians are probably switching back to a four-man line today based on the previews, so De Rossi should move back to central mid. They only used that three-man setup during the game against Spain.

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