Die-hard Ultras / Hardcore Supporters

Jesse Campbell said:Killer issue. It kind of reminds me of back when the Graveyard fans actually had some unity and Alcatraz was running the show on the sidelines.

Anyone ever see them get into scraps with each other?

Yeah, they definitely clash sometimes—different factions fighting for control.

But hey, money talks, right? Same old story.

Daniel Robinson5 said:Yeah—it’s pretty common to see those internal fights between factions

but at the end of the day, it's all about the bottom line, I guess.

It’s just a constant cycle—the Democratic Party, then Microsoft, then the Fed, the UN, the Sovics... just going in circles.

So, when are we finally gonna see those video webcams??

Austin Parker7 said:What new stuff? If you're talking about "Sloop John B," they've tried to make that happen plenty of times already, but it just never sticks... personally, I don't hate it, kind of gives off those Mediterranean vibes...

...are you actually kidding me?🙄
...so, what, do you spend your time at Madison Square Garden or something?🙂
...do you even know where those letters came from?😕
...clearly you don't. You don't know anything. Honestly, just get lost.☕

rustyangler122 said:Are you actually being serious right now? I mean, I guess I have to ask—do you even have a clue what you're talking about? Or are we just playing games here? Maybe I'm overthinking it, but it feels like a pretty loaded question.🙄
So, are you more of a "tailgating at the stadium" type of person, or is it more like that "you're the only one I love" kind of vibe?🙂
Do you actually know where those letters came from?😕
Obviously not. You clearly haven't got a clue. Just get lost.☕

I guess I totally misread you. My bad.🤣😍

rustyangler122 said:...guess I totally misread you🤣😍

🤣🤣🤣

Seriously, guys? What was up with that cheering earlier? It wasn't even coordinated for a few minutes there. One group is singing one thing, another group is doing their own thing, and some people are just standing there laughing at the chaos... it was pretty messy.

What are you even talking about man... the energy was totally there for the whole first half and part of the second, but once things started sliding south on the scoreboard, everyone just kind of lost steam for maybe twenty minutes or so because we aren't robots, for god's sake...

Hold on a second, I think this guy actually hit the nail on the head. It’s pretty clear we weren't watching the same game, because honestly, the energy from the fans was just a complete disaster.

He’s out here claiming the whole thing was a disorganized mess, which—honestly—is just plain wrong, even if the cheering itself was pretty subpar...

What exactly makes cheering feel "bad" compared to just cheering "normally"?
If everyone had actually shown up and given it their all, things probably wouldn't have turned out the way they did... but honestly, I’m just too drained to even get into it right now. I'm just sitting here feeling totally worn out and frustrated.

Melissa Sanchez7, don't go getting all arrogant over the internet... The cheering was honestly pretty lackluster, short and underwhelming. We definitely need more dedicated fans and better leaders to step up...

Usually, when you say something like that, people get all defensive and feel like you're personally attacking them, so they start hitting you with those classic, snarky retorts like, "Well, if you're such an expert, why aren't you running the show?" and things like that.
But honestly, let’s just set aside the whole madness regarding the choreography and the fans rooting against teams like Seattle or Portland for a second. I truly believe that anyone who actually cares about the culture of being a supporter and has a realistic outlook can see that after what happened yesterday—and honestly, looking at things even before that—there’s a massive amount of stuff that needs to change, because what we saw was nothing short of a total disaster (especially considering it was a birthday celebration and we've had a two-month break).

wanderingpuma18 said:Usually when you say stuff like that, people get defensive and start throwing out those lame excuses like, "Well, why don't YOU show up then?" and all that nonsense.
Forget about the messy choreography or everyone booing against teams like Anderlecht or Dinamo for a second. I think anyone who actually cares about the atmosphere and is being realistic can see that after yesterday (and honestly, even before that), a ton of things need to change. It was a total disaster—especially considering it was a birthday celebration and we just had a two-month break..

Maybe if the crew heading to away games actually stood together in the North Stand instead of being scattered all over the place, the whole vibe would be better.
Most of the guys traveling end up splitting off into different sections back at the home stadium.
It really thins out the energy, and since the chanting is already pretty weak, it makes everything look even worse...
Just my two cents.
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wanderingpuma18 said:Usually, when you point something out like that, people take it personally and get all defensive, hitting you with those classic lines like, "Well, if you're so smart, why aren't you running the show?"
If we just set aside the absolute chaos of the halftime shows and the fans rooting against teams like Anderlecht or Dinamo for a moment, I think anyone who actually cares about the atmosphere and stays realistic can see that after yesterday—and honestly, even before then—there’s a massive amount of stuff that needs to change. To put it mildly, the whole situation is a disaster, especially considering it was a birthday celebration and they had a two-month break to fix things..

Spot on.

Look, you guys probably know way more than I do since you're older and have spent way more time in the stands, and I totally get why people are saying we need another goalpost up in the North End... but honestly, it didn't feel anything like those old-school days back when we were tearing it up against teams like the Lakers, you know? With the way things are looking right now, we’re always at risk of getting caught slipping by some 61-style situation, whether it's just a decent message on a banner or a quick choreo... and yeah, I really do agree that we urgently need to fix our atmosphere. To be real, the North End looked absolutely killer yesterday with the Red Army in full force and all those flags waving everywhere... even other supporter groups across Europe that have been growing lately are running into huge issues with their matchday energy. In my opinion, just adding a goalpost is the easiest quick fix, but we'll just have to wait and see how it actually looks on the video if one even gets uploaded 🤷

Yeah, yeah... youth, youth... what a beautiful mess!

I'm not going to be cheering while they’re getting absolutely shredded on the field. Honestly, I don't give a damn about those Ultras traditions or screaming for 90 minutes straight. You're supposed to bring the noise when it actually matters—when we're attacking and need to push them back. To those players, a constant 90-minute beat doesn't mean anything at all.

Personally, I thought it was great. We sang our hearts out during the first half, but then we conceded a goal right at the start of the second, the players just looked lifeless, and that killed us. The singing happened when it needed to happen, and things really heated up once we started pushing late in the game. That's how it should be. I'm satisfied... there will be bigger games down the road where we'll really need to lose our voices.

Larry Campbell33 said:Look, you guys probably have a better handle on this since you’re older and have spent way more time in the stands, and I’ll concede that we definitely need another rail section up in the North End. But honestly, it didn't feel like those old days when we played the Warriors, for instance, and if we keep cheering like this, we might just end up getting rolled by some crew from Chicago—we need a solid message, a good choreo, or something. I agree that the atmosphere needs an urgent fix, but the North End looked pretty damn good yesterday once the Red Sox faithful got going and all those flags started flying. Other growing supporter groups across Europe are running into similar issues with their energy levels lately, too. In my opinion, putting up another rail is just the easiest fix, though I guess we'll see how it actually looks on video (assuming anyone even bothers to upload one🤷)

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you’ve always got to strive for something better, I guess 🙂

We need to get the Northwest section fired up—they’ve been way too quiet lately.