2010 British GP - Silverstone (July 11)

Roger Wright94 said:Don't even go there! I wouldn't trade Mass for 10,000 Webbers.
There you have it. Take him home.

Why not? Honestly, I'm all for Webber moving to Ferrari.😈

I’m firmly of the opinion that Webber is a significantly more capable and well-rounded driver than Mass, though I’ll concede the possibility that I’m being biased—I’ve never been one to pretend Mass was ever my kind of driver. Regardless, it’s obvious this move makes very little sense for Ferrari. If Webber isn't actually an upgrade over Mass, then why swap a younger driver for an older one? On the other hand, if he is superior—which is my own take—you risk making a sensitive driver like Alonso feel a bit less welcome within the team structure.

Mass was a champion for a few seconds there🙂 😁
Webber’s never gonna get there, not even by a second. He might stay in the fight, but he's definitely going to screw something up eventually.☕

So yeah, Mass is the better driver. Sure, Webber is way faster in qualifying, but in actual races? He's got too much of a hot head. It's hard to see him succeeding when he'll just blow up the whole team if things don't go his way. Mass won't do that.

Don't get me wrong—Webber isn't the one causing the chaos at Red Bull. That's mostly on Mathezzic, Marko, and Horner, in that order. But Webber is right on their heels. Meanwhile, Vettel is clearly drowning in this mess; he looks totally lost.

Arthur Doyle70 said:The KERS belongs to Mercedes. Is that not obvious enough? 🤷

Mercedes built a KERS system specifically tuned for their own engines...☕

Honestly, how many people from Mercedes actually work at Mercedes GP right now? And more importantly, how many of them even understand how to package that KERS inside the chassis or how it actually messes with the car's performance?🤷

stormybadger8 said:I wonder how many people from the old crew are actually still over at Mercedes GP, and honestly, I doubt half of them even grasp how to pack that KERS system into the chassis without completely wrecking the car's balance and performance.🤷

Maybe try asking over there instead. I was scrolling through the Mercedes GP factory site earlier, just staring at those sleek layouts and wondering how much coffee it actually takes to maintain that level of precision. It’s all very polished, isn't it? Makes you think about those long nights in the workshop when everything feels like it's falling apart, but on paper, they've got it all figured out. 🤷

stormybadger8 said:Mass was just seconds away from taking the title.🙂 😁
Webber is never going to be elite. Sure, he might hold his own in a scrap, but he’s definitely going to screw something up eventually.☕

I love this level of clarity.
I’d never actually put that in writing. I’m too subjective for my own good, and honestly, I try to act like I have some class.

As for Webber, his biggest issue is that he does way more damage to everyone else than he does to himself. Honestly? He’s just dead weight to me.

Look, guys, can we put the fanboying aside for a second and actually look at the facts? Claiming that Mass is a better driver than Webber is honestly just laughable... but hey, if you need to lie to yourselves to feel better about it, be my guest.☕

man, those two are basically on the same level, just in their own messed up ways...

Are they equally good or just equally terrible?

briskhound76 said:are they just equally good or bad?

honestly, it all just comes down to how much their car sucks or actually delivers...

hollowgull5 said:it all boils down to whether their car is actually competitive or just a total disaster...

And who exactly does it *not* depend on?

It seems like Jerković always insists that Fernando Alonso, Kimi Räikkönen, Hem, Vettel, Robert Kubica—and if you ask me, I’d throw Jenson Button into that mix too—are clearly in the top tier, while those other two fall just a step behind. Personally, though, I've always felt Mark Webber was the superior driver; he consistently pulled off impressive results even when he was stuck in subpar cars, especially during qualifying sessions.

Chris Ortiz said:just as Jerković always claims that Fernando Alonso, Kimi Räikkönen, Hem, Vettel, Robert Kubica—and I’d throw Jenson Button into that mix as well—are the top tier, while those other two are merely second rate... personally, I find Mark Webber more impressive because he actually managed to pull off results even when stuck in subpar cars, especially during qualifying sessions.

Why Alonso, though? And why Hem? Honestly, what's the deal with Jerković? He's been playing favorites with Lewis Hamilton since the guy first stepped onto the Formula 1 grid...

James Smith50 said:as if it's not up to everyone else...

man, if you haven't noticed, some drivers can't do squat even when they're sitting in a top-tier car...

Chris Ortiz said:it's just like how Jerković always claims that Fernando Alonso, Kimi Räikkönen, Hem, Vettel, Robert Kubica—and if you ask me, I'd throw Jenson Button in there too—are the absolute top tier, while those other two guys are just sitting in second place... personally though, I think Mark Webber actually has more talent because he was pulling off crazy results even when he was stuck in mediocre cars, especially during qualifying sessions...

Räikkönen isn't even driving in Formula 1 anymore😉

James Smith50 said:Why on earth would anyone pick Alonso or Hem? And why Jerković? He’s been playing favorites with Lewis Hamilton since the guy first showed up in Formula 1.....

It’s likely because he considers himself the ultimate expert on the whole Formula 1 circus here in America!

Are you actually kidding me right now? Are you suggesting Hem and Alonso aren't among the elite drivers?
While I'll admit Hem is incredibly obnoxious, there is no denying his talent. In my book, he and Robert Kubica are easily the best drivers on the grid right now.

briskhound76 said:...saying Felipe Massa is a better driver than Mark Webber is just plain ridiculous...

Who actually said that? Where are you even finding this stuff?

Jeffrey Edwards22 said:Is there anywhere I can download or stream a replay of this race? I was stuck recovering from surgery and couldn't watch it live, but from what I'm reading, it sounds like it was a wild one... if anyone has a link where I could catch up, please let me know. 👍

What kind of surgery?

Appendix?

Hemorrhoids?

A tumor? Benign or malignant?

Clean cut?

Heart stuff?

silvercobra68 said:what exactly did they cut out?

appendix?

hemorrhoids?

A tumor? Benign or malignant?

something else?

heart surgery?

probably just some sheer stupidity from this PDF, but man, it's pretty obvious the surgery went south...

poor guy...😢

hollowgull5 said:It’s probably just some error in this PDF, but clearly the surgery was a bust.

Poor guy.😢

I'm asking for a reason; if the race was that heart-stopping—especially if the patient is a heavy smoker—it isn't recommended if they had heart surgery.

If it was just hemorrhoids, though, he might be fine.