2010 British GP - Silverstone (July 11)

Roger Wright94 said:He’d probably be offended if you called him a crybaby... what's the word again?

You think there are bots on here?🤷

Could be. But it would have to be someone with terrible grammar. Google Translate usually makes everything sound super weird.😬

stormybadger8 said:I haven't even watched ten full races yet, so I don't really have much of an opinion on him, though I'm feeling pretty sharp lately myself.🙂

If you think you're doing so great, then the old man is practically a saint this season.😛

stormybadger8 said:do you think there are bots on this forum? 🤷

It’s possible—though I suspect they'd have to be someone with really bizarre grammar, since Google Translate usually produces some pretty awkward results 😬

unless it's just my mom 🤣

redheron12 said:if it isn't his daddy's little boy 🤣

could be. Same attitude, honestly.🤣

Banaj screws them over every single race, then they have the nerve to complain.😬🤣

redheron12 said:In theory, the FIA could disqualify every single team, strip them of their points, and just declare Schumacher the winner of every race this season. 🤷

To make that happen, I might need to go offer a prayer. 🙏 🙂

Joshua Newman2 said:Check this out: http://www.planet-f1.com/news/18227/...iminal-damage-

Ron Dennis snuck up on Edie Jordan while he was interviewing Horner for CBS and yanked his mic wires, then just walked off laughing like a jerk. Jordan lost it and actually wanted to sue Dennis through CBS.

And people claim this sport isn't a total circus. 😂 🤣

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Honestly, good move... saved us all from listening to more nonsense. 🤣

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ToroRosso claims they inked a deal with Buemi, but he’s calling bullshit.🤣

Looks like Buemi is just sitting around waiting for Webber's contract to fall through. 😬

Word on the street is that Buemi is currently on the chopping block at Renault, and we’ve already suspected he might be a fit for Red Bull. He’s suddenly become quite the hot commodity, and passing up an opportunity with STR could be a massive blunder if he ends up blowing his chances with everyone else...

Joshua Newman2 said:Rumor has it Buemi is on Renault's radar, and we already know he could land a seat at Red Bull. He’s become pretty high in demand, so he isn't just signing with STR. Might be a mistake if he blows all his options by being too picky...

Look, he's better than Petrov since STR is noticeably worse than Renault. Buemi actually has more points than Petrov, and way more than Hulkenberg. Plus, Williams is basically better than STR right now. 😉

The kid wants a better car. Seems like a smart move to me. 👍

And honestly, who knows how good STR or even RB will be next season? 😉

I've got a feeling the top dogs next year will be McLaren, Ferrari, Renault, and Williams—not necessarily in that order. I can see KERS absolutely wrecking the rest of the grid. 🤷

stormybadger8 said:I have this nagging feeling about where things are headed for next season. If I had to place a bet, I’d say the heavy hitters will be McLaren, Ferrari, Renault, and Williams—though I wouldn't necessarily put them in that specific order. It feels like anything could happen. Honestly, I can't help but wonder if the introduction of KERS might end up completely throwing the rest of the grid into chaos? It seems like just the kind of variable that could shake everything up. 🤷

It really is a shame, isn't it? You have to wonder why Williams can't just integrate their own KERS technology directly into the car instead of being forced to go out and buy it from someone else. It feels like such a missed opportunity for them to build something proprietary, doesn't it? 😢
Given what we saw with the performance of the Porsche hybrid, don't you think they'd absolutely sweep the competition? 😉

I have a feeling next year is going to be absolute chaos once they start messing with the KERS 🤣🤣 (not necessarily in a good way for him or the 😁 crew), especially since Mercedes was clearly the one who mastered that system last season...

I’m still just sitting here waiting for a moment where we actually see a Williams resurgence in F1...☕

Arthur Doyle70 said:It honestly feels like everything is going to shift next year. I have this nagging suspicion that once they get the KERS technology dialed in, it’s going to cause absolute chaos on the track. Don't you think? It feels like we're just waiting for the storm to break. 🤣🤣 It’s not necessarily about how good he is on his own, or even how the rest of the crew is performing. 😁 I mean, let's be honest—wasn't Mercedes really the one who cracked the code on the best KERS system last year? It makes you wonder how anyone else is supposed to catch up when they've got that kind of technical edge.

I just can't seem to get a handle on this whole Williams resurgence in F1... It feels like I'm waiting for a breakthrough that just keeps staying out of reach. Is it just me, or does it feel like we're constantly hovering right on the edge of something big without ever quite breaking through?☕

It seems a bit excessive to be running with a fuel tank that large, doesn't it? It just feels like it's overkill given the capacity.

mistybear87 said:it’s just way too massive to run alongside a fuel tank that size...

Look, it was overcomplicated back then anyway, and I honestly don't think Williams ever even bothered testing that system in an F1 car.🤷

Arthur Doyle70 said:Listen, it all feels a bit overcomplicated, doesn't it? I can't help but wonder—did Williams even bother testing that system in an F1 car?🤷

As far as I can tell, not really. It’s nothing complicated, is it?
So, I’ve been chewing on this concept lately—the idea of mounting an electric motor/generator directly onto the shaft, with the wiring running straight to a flywheel that houses its own identical motor/generator setup. It’s one of those technical puzzles that seems simple on paper but really makes you wonder about the practicalities once you start digging in. I mean, isn't there something almost poetic about that kind of closed-loop symmetry? You have the power generation and the mechanical load essentially dancing around each other on the same axis. But then, of course, you hit those inevitable engineering hurdles. How would you manage the heat dissipation in such a tight configuration? And what about the sheer complexity of the wiring? It’s a fascinating thought experiment, really. Does anyone else find themselves spiraling down these kinds of mechanical rabbit holes?

It’s all pretty much the same as any other KERS setup you'd see out there, really. The only real difference is that instead of relying on batteries, they're using a flywheel system to get the job done. Is it more efficient? Who knows, but it certainly changes the dynamic.

The real issue with a gearbox is that, unlike a battery pack, you don't exactly have the luxury of deciding where it goes. You can't just spread the weight around wherever it suits your design best, can you? It’s a fixed piece of hardware that dictates the layout, rather than something you can distribute strategically like you would with cells in a battery. 🙂

mistybear87 said:as far as I can tell, no; there’s nothing particularly complicated about it
you just have an electric motor/generator on the shaft, some wiring going to a flywheel that also houses an electric motor/generator

it’s pretty much identical to any other KERS setup, except instead of batteries, you're dealing with a flywheel

the headache with a flywheel is that, unlike batteries, you can't just tuck them away wherever they happen to fit best🙂

It doesn't need to be some exotic foreign tech for things to get complicated😁

Anything spinning at those speeds demands incredibly precise, high-quality design and manufacturing... not to mention the safety protocols, because let's face it, they aren't building a kiddie ride at a carnival🤣🤣( though, if you look at it from another angle🤣)

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/85320

Interesting. Either Charles is lying through his teeth to save face, or Ferrari is lying to us when they claim Alonso isn't running circles around them.🤣

Honestly, it’s just a bunch of nonsense. Total garbage, if you ask me.☕

Arthur Doyle70 said:Honestly, I think we’re looking at next year. That KERS setup is just pure chaos. 🤣🤣 Not necessarily great on their own, nor is the team. 😁 I mean, let's be real—Mercedes was the one that actually nailed the KERS system last year.

Still waiting for that Williams comeback in F1... any day now.☕

So, Mercedes or McLaren? Tough call.😁

I’m really not convinced Mercedes is going to see any real benefit from this. McLaren? Sure, maybe. But Mercedes? Hard to see it happening. If I’m reading the situation right, the issue isn't actually developing the KERS system itself. The real headache is finding a way to package it inside the car without adding massive weight. Fitting that stuff in isn't exactly a walk in the park, especially since they barely have any testing time to work with.

stormybadger8 said:http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/85320

Interesting. Either Charlie is lying to save face, or Ferrari is lying to pretend Alonso isn't running circles around them.🤣

Either way, someone's full of it and it's messy. Just typical nonsense.☕

Pathetic.😲

stormybadger8 said:hmm, Mercedes or McLaren?😁

I'm not really convinced Mercedes will see much of a payoff from this; McLaren definitely will, but for Mercedes, it feels like a stretch. If I’m reading the situation right, developing a KERS system isn't actually the hard part—it's trying to cram that tech into the car without adding massive weight, and finding space in a chassis is never as easy as it looks on paper, especially when you barely get any testing time to figure it out.

Mercedes...☕

When it comes to packaging, both McLaren and Mercedes have a bit of an edge since they were running similar setups all last season...☕

The real question is whether they’ll stick to the old blueprint or try to reinvent the wheel. If they go with the existing design, both teams basically walk away with all the data from 2009. Plus, you have to consider that Fry, the guy behind the MP4/24, moved over to Ferrari, likely carrying those KERS secrets right along with him in that gray matter of his. Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if we see a total KERS renaissance next year.🤣 🤣 ....

Arthur Doyle70 said:Mercedes...☕

Regarding the setup, both McLaren and Mercedes have plenty of experience since they ran the system all last season...☕

The real question is whether they'll stick to the old system or roll out a new one. If it’s the same, then basically both teams already have all the 2009 intel. Plus, considering Fry—the guy who designed the MP4/24—moved over to Ferrari, he probably carried all those KERS secrets straight to his gray matter. I’m expecting a total KERS renaissance next year.🤣 🤣 ....

why on earth would you think the Mercedes crew has any real insight here?🤷
I mean, it's basically Brawn—well, the ex-Honda crew and their people. I highly doubt some corporate suits from Mercedes were hanging around the McLaren garage taking sketches of the KERS blueprints.🤷