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Peter Stewart6 Peter Stewart6 MemberOP
18 messages
joined May 2010
#61 ·
Brian Edwards6 said:The issue isn't that one of us is confused. It’s just that we fundamentally disagree. Any connection between a church and God is something manufactured by the institution itself, designed primarily to serve its own interests. It functions exactly like a middleman in a retail transaction.

No, it’s fine. It only becomes an issue if the person who's confused...
He just doesn't want to listen—or maybe, more accurately, he simply can't. It's like he’s incapable of hearing anyone who actually has a bit of clarity.
Because they actually show up to class and put in the work. It’s a far cry from that one kid who just spends the whole time trying to flirt their way through the lesson.
If he’s out there marking players like that, then he might as well be trading stocks or acting as a middleman too. 🥳

We’re mostly on the same page here. But honestly, there are plenty of non-believers out there who seem to have more integrity than the people actually sitting in the pews, even if they don't live under the wing of the Mother Church. For some people, the Church was more like a stepmother than a mother. Forgive me if I keep bringing up the past, but I don't think forgiveness should ever be confused with forgetting—at least, it shouldn't be.

Yeah. 😁
It’s the 21st century. Can we please stop constantly pointing fingers at the Mother Church? 🤦
It’s always the same old story. Total déjà vu with this Religion PDF. 🙄

Isn't that exactly what exclusivity is? Just a way to strip away someone's freedom to choose?
Why couldn't you compare the two? In both cases, you're trying to heal the spirit with something you have to believe in. And honestly, both sides have just as much absolute proof—and just as many total charlatans—as the other. What's really the difference between the local Trade Fair and that summer Camp? So, those are just the ones close to us. If anyone knows anything about Islamic, Orthodox, or other faiths, please feel free to add to this. The goals, methods, and faith are all essentially the same—it’s just the name of the power that differs. Isn't that right?

No, it isn't. It’s just talking about what constitutes the Truth and what doesn't.
And now they want to present themselves as the Truth. At the end of the day, the freedom to choose remains.
Consider this a warning. Like those signs you see out on the highway. At the end of the day, everyone’s choice is their own.
Doing this while driving.
This part in bold, A huge difference.But that’s not really what we're talking about here. There's a PDF for Religion stuff if you need it.
Starting a new thread. 😁

I didn't say everyone was like that. It's just that others often turn a blind eye when their own brothers lose their way. And honestly, that has nothing to do with your faith. Blindness is pretty much common to most faiths.The same goes for the alternatives.

I wrote something once about how Americans who are Catholic tend to "practice their faith" in dive bars. It was meant to...
I should probably take another look at that post, but honestly, I just can't bring myself to do it.
Alright then, I guess we’re all just blind if we choose to believe. It's probably for the best that you finally see things our way.
You call it an "alternative" to blindness, huh? Hehe.
An alternative isn't faith; it’s just the opposite of it. It's a void that gets filled up with superstition. 😍

You just didn't get it.👎

No way. 🙂 Just some kind of mediation through an alternative illusion. 🤣
Hey there, Brian Edwards6. 👋
Brian Edwards6 Brian Edwards6 Active Member
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joined Nov 2015
#62 ·
Susan Brooks83 said:No, it’s really not an issue—unless, of course, we're dealing with someone who finds everything a bit confusing.
He simply refuses to listen—or more accurately, he's incapable of hearing anyone who might actually have a clearer perspective on things.
Because he’s actually showing up to class regularly and putting in the work...

I’m sorry if you aren't interested in hearing this, but...🤷

Susan Brooks83 said:We’re living in the 21st century now—can we please stop constantly pointing the finger at the Mother Church?
It’s the same old story every single time. I feel like I'm stuck in a loop, experiencing total déjà vu whenever I open that PDF about Religion...

As I’ve already stated, I possess enough self-confidence and faith to openly discuss my own dirty laundry before I start digging through someone else's. Isn't that just common decency? And really, isn't it a mother's duty to build grand institutions, rather than turning to the newspapers to solicit funds for transporting sick children to daycare? Even in the 21st century? Just so there is no confusion here—this is merely a recent example, not an attack on my Church, since you seem so intent on invoking the 21st century. Regardless of the era we live in, we remain only human, bound by the same ancient virtues and vices. At the end of the day, the Church is simply our collective. God is present in every single individual.👍

Susan Brooks83 said:You mentioned something earlier about how American Catholics tend to "practice their faith" in local bars and pubs. It really should have been noted...
I'd consider taking another look at that post, but honestly, I just can't bring myself to do it.

It’s all just a misunderstanding, really. There are plenty of decent people out there, but I rarely find myself working alongside them.🤷

Susan Brooks83 said:Well, fine then. I suppose we’re all just blind if we choose to believe. It’s probably for the best that you finally opened your eyes so you can lead us all out of the dark.
You could argue that you're essentially pulling it from "tunnel vision," or perhaps more accurately...

You’ve completely misread my intention. Actually, you understood the words, but you're generalizing just so you can play the part of the devout martyr or victim—likely playing into certain stereotypes regarding faith and gender. I never claimed that everyone who holds faith is blind. For the record, I believe too. I've already explained the distinction several times now.😉

Susan Brooks83 said:... The alternative isn't faith; it's the exact opposite. It's just a void being filled by superstition...

But isn't faith, for instance, an alternative to science? Or at least to the current scientific consensus? By that same logic, if you traveled to a place where people primarily worship the forces of nature or follow shamans, then Roman Catholicism would be considered the "alternative." I think we need to maintain a broader perspective here.👍

Regards.👋
Peter Stewart6 Peter Stewart6 MemberOP
18 messages
joined May 2010
#63 ·
Brian Edwards6 said:I'm sorry if you don't want to hear this, but...

kae? Are you tagging me? Geez, you already said that in your first post, so... yeah, I heard you. 😁

Like I said, I have enough self-confidence and faith. Can I talk about this freely? to my dirty laundry Before I start digging through someone else's business... isn't that just another sin?

Yeah, "exactly." ☕

Isn't it a bit much to focus on building grand monuments when you're turning to the news to beg for money just to transport sick kids to day care? And we’re doing this in the 21st century? Just so there's no confusion—and since you brought up the modern era—this is just a recent example. I'm not attacking my Church here. Regardless of the era we live in, we are still just human beings, old virtues and flaws included. At the end of the day, the Church is just our group. God is within every single person.

I just can't seem to find it in you. 🙂 I keep searching, and I keep looking. Honestly, the fact that I’m even bothering to reply to this digging is proof enough.
Judging people based on their personalities, running analyses on them, throwing insults, making baseless accusations... it's like déjà vu. I've lost count how many times I've seen this happen.
Going down a rabbit hole. 🙂

It’s all just a misunderstanding. Really. There are plenty of good people out there. But I rarely deal with people like that.

But then again, sometimes you end up working with people who are actually alright. 🙂

You completely misunderstood me. Actually, you understood me just fine. But you're generalizing. How would she come across? As a believer, a victim, or a martyr? It probably all boils down to how you view faith and gender. I never said that everyone who believes is blind. I believe too, after all. I've already tried to explain the difference a few times now.

**This part is bolded; don't just copy over the stuff about generalizations.** 😉 Leftover: whatever you want.
Pure imagination. In the end, you just get lost in the gap between what you actually said and what you meant to say. 🙄
The "differences"... and then there are your "explanations." 😍

Isn't faith, for instance, just an alternative to science? At least compared to what we consider valid today. It's the same thing if you travel to a place where people mostly worship nature spirits or shamans; then, Roman Catholicism becomes the alternative. You have to look at the bigger picture.

Hey there.👋

Bolded, yeah, that's quite the "bigger picture" you've got there, especially when talking about "fanatical Catholics." 🤣

Hi. 👋
Alex Barnes8 Alex Barnes8 Active Member
131 messages
joined Nov 2010
#64 ·
Brian Edwards6 said:Why wouldn't it work? Anyone can sign up. I guess that says more about us than the site itself. There was even a thread where people stated their religion. It seems most users identified as Catholic or Christian... yet most of us don't list a religion in our profile. How does that happen? Maybe it's because fanatics from all walks of life just get under our skin.🤷

The majority can't be Catholic in real life and then suddenly atheist on a forum. Not by accident, anyway. And as for why most of us skip the religion field? One reason is exactly what I'm getting at. People probably don't want to write it on a platform where Catholics get insulted so much. I think there have been plenty of complaints about that here already.

And regarding the supposed privilege of the majority faith? Like, having access to taxpayer funds, displaying symbols in public buildings, or dedicating government offices? That sort of thing?🤷

We're talking about privilege on this forum.

Attacks? Isn't that just what a discussion is? Or are we supposed to only post on threads if we actually agree with everyone else?🤷
Someone might claim to have God on their lips, but if some random user's post on a public forum can shake them, maybe there’s an issue with their faith.👎

You're mixing apples and oranges again.
Brian Edwards6 Brian Edwards6 Active Member
112 messages
joined Nov 2015
#65 ·
Susan Brooks83 said:... I just can't seem to find it within you...

Perhaps you simply aren't trying hard enough.🤷

Anyway, my apologies if I’ve been encroaching on your territory here, for whatever reason. You have your perspective, and I have mine. There’s really no point in running in circles over it. Just try to move past the complaining; it’s becoming clear that nobody else besides me actually cares.😉

Best,👋
Brian Edwards6 Brian Edwards6 Active Member
112 messages
joined Nov 2015
#66 ·
Alex Barnes8 said:It’s just not possible for the majority to be Catholic in real life while being atheist on this forum. At least, not by accident...

As I’ve already pointed out, participating in this forum is entirely voluntary. There aren't really any gatekeeping measures in place, and certainly no rule stating you can't be Catholic🤷.

Alex Barnes8 said:...And how is it possible that most of us don't post in the religion section? Well, one of the reasons is exactly what I'm talking about. People don't want to write in a sub where Catholics are insulted so much...

But why take offense? Why not simply explain things to those who don't understand? Isn't that part of the point?

Alex Barnes8 said:...What we are discussing here is privilege on the forum...

So, let me get this straight: any potential privilege in real life is perfectly fine, but having it on the forum is unacceptable?
🤷
Peter Stewart6 Peter Stewart6 MemberOP
18 messages
joined May 2010
#67 ·
Brian Edwards6 said:Maybe you just aren't trying hard enough.

Yeah, I’m not shaking, haha. :shiver shiver:

Anyway, sorry if I was harassing you on your own thread, for whatever reason. You have your opinion, and I have mine. No point in running in circles here. Just stop complaining; nobody else seems to care besides me.

Best.👋


Oh, absolutely. 🙂 Anyway, apology accepted. 😁 But there's really no sense in you running around like you're in some movie.
Marathon runners do a victory lap; I'm not exactly an athlete myself. 😂

So, I'll assume you'll respect what's written (in bold) 😉 and regarding the advice about "complaining"—whether I choose to or not. Same goes for who cares or doesn't. Freedom of speech and thought are rights guaranteed to every citizen by the Constitution of the United States. 🥳
Most citizens "complain," so maybe there's some truth to all that whining. And everyone else probably shouldn't get involved,
but honestly, it's just 🙂 Typical for this part of the country. 🤣

Bye. 👋 🙂
rowdyhawk10 rowdyhawk10 Active Member
123 messages
joined Oct 2009
#68 ·
Alex Barnes8 said:Could you please stop mocking Catholics and their faith?🙂

I wasn't mocking the faith in that post, if you know what I mean. here They quoted me. Actually, Peter Stewart6 wrote that to me verbatim... suggesting that this is exactly my fate. I'll be getting beaten by a heavy iron Crucifix of Jesus weighing several pounds, while I just moan away—to paraphrase my memory—something like, "oh, oh, no, uh, oh, no... oh, uh... oh..." and so on.
Alex Barnes8 said:So why exactly are you throwing shade at the people who are actually doing the work for you?

You would need to provide a link to prove that. Did I personally flag you like that? Where exactly? On Reddit, the rules state that you should only lodge complaints regarding matters where you have been personally aggrieved. You might want to go take a look at those guidelines.
Alex Barnes8 said:Or is it just us Catholics who have to walk on eggshells around your sensitive feelings and nerves, while you don't feel any need to show the same courtesy toward ours? 😉

Everyone here is treated equally. We even have atheists who claim they stick around because we tend to be more lenient toward Christians—basically, that we give them more grace for their mistakes than anyone else. A lot of other people seem to share that view, thinking they’re the most marginalized group here. But that isn't actually the case. Every user is on equal footing, provided they respect the forum rules. Cheers. 🙂
swiftorca57 swiftorca57 Newcomer
4 messages
joined Nov 2009
#69 ·
rowdyhawk10 said:All users here are supposed to be equal.

Still just waiting on an answer to my appeal about why you and I aren't treated equally on this public US forum...!!

Seriously though, I'm demanding an answer after that stunt you pulled—banning me for NO REASON and deleting my post just to hide how arrogant you're being..
Brian Edwards6 Brian Edwards6 Active Member
112 messages
joined Nov 2015
#70 ·
Susan Brooks83 said:... But there’s really no point in running around like you're in some movie
Marathon runners do a victory lap; I’m not exactly an elite athlete...

Why use the singular? I assume we're all running, right?🤷
And yes, it was a great film.👍

Susan Brooks83 said:... Freedom of thought and speech are rights guaranteed by the Constitution to every citizen of the USA...

That’s correct. Those rights are guaranteed to us just as much as they are to atheists.👍

Susan Brooks83 said:... Most citizens just "complain," and there's probably some Truth to that constant whining. As for everyone else, they'd rather stay out of it
it's just Typical for our neck of the woods...

You have a point there. Complaining is such a hallmark of the culture here.😉

We shouldn't forget that we actually share a lot in common, and when we attack "the other side," we're mostly just attacking ourselves.👍
Regards.👋
Peter Stewart6 Peter Stewart6 MemberOP
18 messages
joined May 2010
#71 ·
rowdyhawk10 said:I wasn't making fun of faith in that post you all here quoted. That's actually what Peter Stewart6 really wrote to me... saying my fate would be to get beaten with a heavy iron Crucifix of Jesus weighing several pounds while I moan (paraphrasing from memory) something like, "oh, oh, no, uh, oh, no... oh, uh... oh..." and so on.

Regarding my post, "which you're paraphrasing from memory", and before that you say, "
Peter Stewart6 actually wrote that to me" 🙄 my reply was posted here before yours, and even
even now it stands: Stop making things up and stop slandering rowdyhawk10. 🙂 Got it? ☕

The post is right here in the thread, and it says something completely different from what you're stubbornly claiming
Peter Stewart6 wrote. It's available for anyone to read, so they can see for themselves
what the deal is. So, if you're going to keep spreading lies and slander about what Peter Stewart6 wrote, 😍 go ahead, "good luck" 👍 , but I'm not going to spend my time proving
that it isn't true. 🙂

There is Someone who knows the whole Truth, and His opinion is what matters to me, not yours. 🙂
You know, that Someone is Jesus Christ and He is my God, not you, rowdyhawk10,
"moderator." 👎

I worship Him in spirit and truth, and those who live in spirit and truth will recognize that. 🙂 🙂
Peter Stewart6 Peter Stewart6 MemberOP
18 messages
joined May 2010
#72 ·
Brian Edwards6 said:Why use the singular? I guess we’re all running, right?
And yeah, that movie was great.
Exactly. It’s just as much a guarantee for us as it is for atheists.
You've got a point. Constant complaining is just so Typical for people around here.

We just can't forget that we actually have so much in common, and that by attacking "the other side," we're mostly just attacking ourselves.
Cheers.👋

Didn't the two of us already say hello in this thread, or do you just miss me? Honestly, sounds a bit fanatic. 🤣
Or maybe you just "happened" to show up to support the moderator—it's hard to tell, though I know
it’s tough for him. 😍 Any help is welcome, including yours. 😂
It looks like you forgot your own "thesis on attacking" and ended up getting lost again, picking on my insignificance. 🙄 😁
Just a few posts ago, you apologized for "causing trouble on any level," among other things. ☕
Now you're just running in circles like a hamster. 😬

Anyway, take care, Brian Edwards6, don't ruin the thread for me. 👋 🙂
Brian Edwards6 Brian Edwards6 Active Member
112 messages
joined Nov 2015
#73 ·
Susan Brooks83 said:Didn't we already exchange greetings on this thread, or am I just that easy to forget? Honestly, the fanaticism is getting a bit much...
Whether you stumbled into this moderator support role by pure accident or not, I have to say, it’s a tough gig. It’s hard for me to tell, honestly.
Things are getting a bit heavy for me lately... Honestly, any kind of support would be appreciated, even just yours.
It seems you’ve completely overlooked the "theory of engagement" and have once again lost your way by focusing your attacks on my insignificance...
A few posts back, you offered an apology for "causing offense on any level," among several other things...
You’re running in circles again, just like a hamster on a wheel.
Look, Brian Edwards6, let’s keep it civil and not derail the thread...

Do the moderators actually need help? Honestly, I’m not so sure they do.🤷
I honestly can't pinpoint exactly where I attacked you or even threatened you in that comment, but fine. If that’s how you want to see it, so be it.🤷
Don't worry about it; you're forgiven.😉👋
Peter Stewart6 Peter Stewart6 MemberOP
18 messages
joined May 2010
#74 ·
Brian Edwards6 said:Basically, sorry if I was bothering you in your thread, for whatever reason. You have your views, and I have mine. There’s no point in running in circles here. Just stop complaining; it's obvious nobody else cares besides me.😉


Brian Edwards6 said:And honestly, I don't even know where I attacked you or threatened you in my comment, but fine. If that's how you feel.🤷


Oh, right. 🙂 Chat threads belong in the off-topic section, Brian. ☕

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