Moving chat threads from US to Offtopic

fadedheron892 said:It’s obvious why Brandon Castillo4 is voting for DiK since he hasn't even been reading the chat, so I get it, but you were actually hanging out in the chat and saw all the stuff we were doing to help people out, so do you honestly think things are gonna be different over on Offtopic?
By attacking the chat, you're just killing the soul you helped build.
You guys already killed thirty different chats, but everyone just ended up migrating over to Prst anyway.
The US seriously needs a chat and a place to hang out, because you think people only come online to whine?

Oh, so it's not "socializing" on the forum, then? What exactly is it supposed to be? 🤣

It's socializing. 😁

William Martinez14 said:Nah, it doesn't. ☕

It honestly doesn't matter if he helped a bunch of lonely people unwind, find their tribe, open up, laugh, joke around, or just become more social and less wound up...

Clearly, the whole point of this Apple forum is to make sure the lonely stay lonely, because hey, life's a bitch and then you die. ☕

If I actually had some semblance of a cheerful disposition, would they even need to exist? Who the hell would they want to target if everyone's heart wasn't already broken and isolated?

I honestly don't follow the logic behind why people think Apple is somehow better or higher quality these days.
🤷

But honestly, I don't even have the energy to keep arguing about this. In my opinion, the community should be left to the people who actually give a damn—those who actually want to see Reddit stay what it used to be.

brightridge59 said:My job isn't to serve anyone. Especially not users who act like rabid dogs, just waiting for any excuse to launch into an unhinged, baseless tirade against everything the current mod team is trying to accomplish.

That really says a lot about how riveting those books of yours must be.

If you had actually bothered to check out that chat even once—and honestly, the same goes for Brandon Castillo4—instead of completely failing at your actual job as a moderator, I’d probably be offended by you right now, but instead, you’re just straight-up pathetic.🤣

mellowraven22 said:Is all this drama really about a few chat threads?

Man.

Look, let’s be real—the chat is basically just clutter by default. It’s useless noise that nobody actually cares about reading unless you're one of the people typing in there. If the Apple mods decided to clear those threads out themselves, then the admin team is clearly backing them up.

It’s not "drama over the chat."
To you, it's trash, sure, but for me, it's the one spot where people who naturally come to read stuff on Apple can actually find something decent to sink their teeth into.
A forum lives or dies by its new blood. Mark my words. If the chat gets as many views as there are posters active there, then they should just hang out over in Offtopic (wherever that is).
Is this site some kind of non-profit charity, or is there an actual goal to growing the user base and increasing engagement? People show up to skim through PDFs; if there's zero life in the community, they'll just go scroll through Facebook instead. Think about the bottom line for once.

Stop hiding behind vague feelings and show me some actual stats to back up that ridiculous claim. I love numbers—everything else you're saying is just abstract nonsense. Does keeping that chat tucked inside the PDF section actually serve any commercial purpose?

Please, remember—I'm an actual user here.

Brandon Castillo4 said:Oh, so it's not "socializing" on the forum, then? What exactly is it supposed to be? 🤣

It's socializing. 😁

Look, Brandon Castillo4, I honestly have no clue what's going on with you because I've told you a million times already that we've tackled a massive amount of high-quality topics on this chat and actually helped people solve real problems, but it's like you're just stuck in your own head listening to nothing but your own damn voice. 🙄

Look, the regular chat is total garbage, but Finger of Fate is on an entirely different level—you really need to go check out our threads over on Appeals.
And now, that exact same Finger, which actually changed lives for people (not just some random meetups), is trying to shove itself into the same old trash.

Hannah White2 said:It’s not "drama over the chat."
To you, it's trash, sure, but for me, it's the one spot where people who naturally come to read stuff on Apple can actually find something decent to sink their teeth into.
A forum lives or dies by its new blood. Mark my words. If the chat gets as many views as there are posters active there, then they should just hang out over in Offtopic (wherever that is).
Is this site some kind of non-profit charity, or is there an actual goal to growing the user base and increasing engagement? People show up to skim through PDFs; if there's zero life in the community, they'll just go scroll through Facebook instead. Think about the bottom line for once.

Stop hiding behind vague feelings and show me some actual stats to back up that ridiculous claim. I love numbers—everything else you're saying is just abstract nonsense. Does keeping that chat tucked inside the PDF section actually serve any commercial purpose?

Please, remember—I'm an actual user here.

Look, the chat thing is totally out of bounds here. It doesn't fit our editorial guidelines at all. We only have those chat threads so people don't clutter up the actual useful topics. Plus, from a business standpoint, it makes zero sense. I can't give you any data on that.

Anyway, let's wrap this up. The chat has been moved, and it's staying moved.