Has anyone tried Bioptron for nose and sinus issues? Looking for feedback/info.

A few months back, I caught this segment on TV about using bio-lasers at a private ENT clinic. Apparently, it’s the latest way they’re treating nasal and sinus mucosa over here, similar to methods that have been around for a while in more advanced medical circles.
The report mentioned it really helps after just a few sessions, and they even interviewed some patients who swore by it.
The funny thing is, my primary care doctor hasn't heard a single word about it.
If anyone out there knows anything at all about this, please let me know!

Wait, you mean nobody has actually heard of this bio-laser yet?

I’m honestly pretty curious about this too; I caught a segment on it the other day, but unfortunately, I couldn't for the life of me remember which hospital was actually performing the procedure...

I’m getting this done at Dr. Ivica Klapan’s office over in New York City.
They told me a package of 10 treatments would run me about $233.

Just wanted to breathe some life back into this thread! Has anyone else here actually heard about this stuff or maybe even tried out the treatments?

So, what exactly is this laser doing, and what’s the actual wavelength we're talking about here? Something feels a bit off to me when they claim:

...using a specially designed device that emits a blend of visible light and UV wavelengths...

Can someone break this down for me? Real lasers don't just "emit light" in a general sense—they produce a coherent beam at a specific wavelength. This whole description sounds pretty interesting, but it's a bit fuzzy.

placidjackal36 said:What exactly does this laser do, and what’s the wavelength of the beam? It feels a bit strange to me when they say:

Can someone explain this in a bit more detail? Lasers don't just emit light, they release a coherent beam at a single wavelength. It all sounds pretty fascinating...

So, look, lasers act as sources of coherent, highly directional, monochromatic light, which places them firmly in the category of non-ionizing radiation. The effects of laser irradiation are actually quite diverse, but one of the most well-documented is known as the biomodulation effect, which basically boils down to photochemical reactions triggered during the irradiation process itself. What we’re talking about here is Low-Level Laser Therapy, or LLLT, which has a massive range of applications for soft tissue and inhibiting pain transmission. I’m not entirely sure what Dr. Klapan is working on specifically, but if it involves a laser, you could certainly find an application for treating mucosal inflammation and similar issues. The theory is that these effects are tied to the repolarization of cell membranes within diseased tissue. Since metabolic processes rely on ions, once a pathological state sets in, the cell membrane polarity shifts, making it much harder for those ions to move in and out as they should. The laser essentially corrects that polarization by creating very high local electric fields, allowing the cell to function properly again, involving things like the Nernst potential and such...

Keith Martinez said:Lasers are essentially sources of coherent, highly directional, monochromatic light, which places them firmly in the category of non-ionizing radiation. The effects of laser irradiation are multifaceted, but one of the most well-documented is the biomodulatory effect, which mostly boils down to photochemical reactions triggered during irradiation. We’re talking about Low-Level Laser Therapy here, which has a massive range of applications for soft tissue and pain inhibition. I’m not entirely sure what Dr. Klapan is working with specifically, but if we are actually talking about a laser, it would definitely be useful for treating mucosal inflammation and similar issues. The theory is that these effects are linked to the repolarization of cell membranes in diseased tissue. Since metabolic processes rely on ion movement, when a pathological state occurs, the cell membrane polarity shifts, making it harder for ions to move in and out properly. The laser fixes this polarization by generating very high local electric fields, allowing the cells to function correctly again (think Nernst potential and such).

Thanks for breaking that down. I did a little reading myself, and it mentions an impact on histamine reactions.
The only thing I can't wrap my head around is why they call it a laser if it’s emitting white light and UV (both A and B). Personally, the idea of exposing mucous membranes to UV-B doesn't sit right with me.

People seem to have this almost irrational fear of lasers these days, which is honestly pretty funny when you realize it’s just an acronym for Light Amplification by Stimulated Emission of Radiation... It's not some mystical force, it's physics. As I’ve mentioned before, the actual effects of laser irradiation are incredibly diverse—we’re talking about everything from neocollagenesis and ATP synthesis to boosting microcirculation, and frankly, a huge chunk of these phenomena is still being actively researched in labs today. If the specific light source Dr. Klapan is utilizing includes white light and UV, I can only speculate as to why that choice was made... UV light is inherently bactericidal on its own, while white light covers the whole spectrum, including red light, which penetrates deepest to interact directly with cellular organelles. But then again, a laser operates in a completely different realm of concentration and efficacy because it’s coherent in both space and time, which allows for incredibly precise dosing, while its monochromatic nature provides high selectivity and much less scattering...

I went through several treatments both before and after my septum surgery. From what I was told, the laser therapy helps stimulate the mucous membrane and boosts the immune response in that area. It seems particularly effective for people dealing with nasal allergies, constant congestion, or other similar issues. Personally, Dr. Klapan was a huge help to me. I’d definitely recommend seeing him if you're struggling with any kind of nasal health problems. I was actually advised to use both the laser and the Bioptron following my procedure. If anyone wants more specifics, I don't mind answering questions via DM.

I hear you. At the end of the day, if you aren't looking at surgery, even laser therapy isn't going to be some kind of miracle cure for you... Sure, laser irradiation is used all over the place in modern medicine, but let's be realistic—it’s definitely not going to replace actual surgical procedures when things get serious.

Nicole Diaz23 said:I underwent treatments both before and after my septum surgery. What I was told is that the laser stimulates mucosal function and boosts the immune response, which makes it quite effective for people dealing with nasal allergies, congestion, and similar issues. For me personally, Dr. Klapan was a huge help. I’d recommend it to anyone struggling with nasal health; I was actually advised to use the Bioptron following my surgery. If you need more specifics, feel free to shoot me a private message.

Greetings,
could you perhaps be a bit more specific about the nasal issues you're facing?
I went through surgery for a deviated septum, but honestly, it hasn't made a lick of difference. My nose is constantly running and feels perpetually half-blocked. I had an X-ray done, and the results suggest my mucosa has thickened due to some sort of allergic reaction, though nobody can pinpoint the trigger. I’ve already tested for the usual suspects—dust, mites, and things of that nature—but everything came back negative.
Thanks.

Best,

Nicole Diaz23 said:I underwent treatments both before and after my septum surgery. What I was told is that the laser stimulates mucosal function and boosts the immune response. It’s quite effective for people dealing with nasal allergies, congestion, and similar issues. Personally, Dr. Klapan was a huge help to me. I recommend him to anyone facing nasal health issues; I was actually advised to use the laser following my procedure. If you want specifics, feel free to DM me.

I'm searching for a reliable ENT in New York City and stumbled upon this old thread...
Bryan Castillo6, could you elaborate on the specific issues you faced? They seem very similar to mine. 😢
How much improvement have you seen since then?

Thanks! 🙏

I feel like I’ve exhausted pretty much every possible way to deal with this chronic sinus inflammation. I've cycled through endless supplements, sprays, and everything else under the sun.
After getting a sinus CT scan, doctors at a major hospital in New York City told me that endoscopic surgery is basically my only real option. They even warned me that symptoms could just come crawling back after the procedure, which apparently happens to most people anyway.
I'm actually considering trying Low-Level Laser Therapy because the idea of going under the knife is pretty daunting, but I have to admit I'm a little skeptical too. Part of me worries it might just be another expensive way to part with my money.
Has anyone here actually gone through a session with biolaser, or does anyone know someone who has had success with this kind of therapy?

So, I just found out the exam is going to be $100 plus 6 sessions of Rhinolight $600, which brings the total to $700.
If anyone else here has gone through this treatment, I’d love to hear your story—did you actually find it helpful?

Has anyone else on the Forum tried out those Rhinolight laser treatments?

Casey Rogers47 said:Has anyone else on this Forum tried the Rhinolight laser treatments?

I haven't personally undergone the treatment yet—though I'd certainly love to swap stories with you regarding sinus issues, especially since I've been battling chronic inflammation for over two years now. It’s quite a persistent nuisance, really.

How long have you been dealing with this?

What did the X-rays show? Any bacterial cultures or allergy tests coming back positive?

And what kind of therapies have you tried so far?

I've been battling sinus issues for about five years now.
X-rays show shadowing in my maxillary sinuses, and the CT scan confirms polypoid thickening of the maxillary sinus mucosa.
The weird part? There's zero bacterial infection present.
I've cycled through all sorts of antibiotics and tried every inhalation treatment under the sun, but nothing sticks.
Tests showed I have a dust mite allergy in both skin prick and blood tests, though honestly, dust doesn't even seem to bother me much.
I feel the same whether I'm in a dusty room or out breathing fresh air.
Since then, I've tried various pills and corticosteroid sprays, but they haven't done a thing for me.
I even tried using a Bioptron lamp on my sinuses almost every day for a month, but no luck there either.
Technically, my condition qualifies for endoscopic surgery, but my ENT warned me that for most people, the symptoms just come right back after the procedure.
I've heard some talk about Rhinolight, but I'm feeling pretty $700 hesitant about it because I'm a bit of a skeptic.

Casey Rogers47 said:I've been dealing with sinus issues for about five years now.
An X-ray shows shadowing in the maxillary sinuses, and the CT scan points toward polypoid thickening of the maxillary sinus mucosa.
There isn't any bacterial presence at all.
I've cycled through various antibiotics and inhaled just about everything under the sun—nothing worked.
Tests showed I have a dust mite allergy in both skin prick and blood tests, though dust doesn't actually seem to trigger anything specific for me.
It makes no difference whether I'm in a dusty room or out breathing fresh air.
After that, I tried various pills and corticosteroid sprays, but again, zero relief.
I even tried using the Bioptron lamp to treat my sinuses for nearly a month, but that didn't do much either.
My condition technically qualifies me for endoscopic surgery, but my ENT warned me that for most people, the symptoms just come right back after the procedure.
I’ve heard talk about Rhinolight, but I haven't pulled the trigger $700 because I'm naturally a bit skeptical.

Maxillary... but how did you determine there were no bacteria involved?
And how are your teeth doing? Could there be a granuloma causing the issue?
Are you experiencing symptoms every single day? Also, have you been exposed to any drafts or sudden temperature changes?

goldenviper752 said:Maxillary... but how did you even figure out there aren't any bacteria?
How are your teeth doing? I guess maybe you have some granuloma causing all this?
Are you dealing with this stuff every single day? Are you being exposed to drafts?

I've been dealing with chronic sinusitis for over five years now. It flares up every two or three months, sometimes more often. My nose gets totally blocked, and because of that, I used to get ear infections constantly. I finally managed to kick the ear issues—haven't had one in seven months—but before that, I was basically living on antibiotics. I also dealt with throat infections a couple of times because all that pus from my sinuses would just drain down. It lasted three weeks once and I nearly lost my mind; antibiotics didn't do squat, and neither did lozenges. Only chamomile steam helped at all, and eventually, it just cleared up. My doctor doesn't even have a clue what to recommend when I ask her. I haven't had an X-ray, but I'm pretty sure I have a deviated septum since one nostril looks smaller than the other in the mirror. I haven't heard much about those bio-lasers, though I have tried salt rooms. Who knows what actually works? Everything is so expensive, and even when you do the treatments, it feels like everything just resets and the sinus pain comes right back. Right now, I'm just trying to build up my immune system and hope that keeps the inflammation down a bit.😁