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Participants redowl90Jeremy Bishop5Dennis Long7Noah Gonzalez7David Price5Lawrence Booth2northerncrane4restlesspanther1goldenranger3quietdriver3Gary Kelly8Adam Harris7Jose Miller17Brian Gonzalez7Donna Nelson23Jesse Sanchez7Amy Mendoza25Harold Gray6
Gary Kelly8 Gary Kelly8 Member
37 messages
joined Apr 2006
#21 ·
This extended list covers a whole bunch of Chinese, Japanese, Korean, and a few other Asian filmmakers... and honestly, based on the small selection of their movies I've managed to catch, I think they're pretty great. They really deliver that specific vibe—you know, the kind that makes you want to change your clothes immediately after the credits roll. There are definitely more films that could fit on this list, too, like stuff from Ahn Byeong-ki or Lee Woo-chul...
My only real gripe is that I don't understand Korean—and man, those guys churn out horror movies like they're going out of style! Most of them follow that same old "long hair covering the face" trope, but even just watching a trailer gets me hyped up... I just have to wait for them to hit the shelves on DVD with decent English subtitles.
On that note, I checked out the original Japanese version: personally, I thought it was a solid, atmospheric piece. Even when there isn't something terrifying jumping out at you, there’s this constant sense of dread hanging in the air... plus, it has a few genuinely creepy moments thrown in for good measure.
I find that remakes of Japanese horror work best when the original director stays involved—take Takashi Shimizu and his take on The Grudge, for example...
redowl90 redowl90 RegularOP
287 messages
joined Aug 2005
#22 ·
Blue said:Hey, Americans are only good when it comes to tech, not movies...
Boo, Americans................................!!

Exactly! 👍

Japanese culture—and especially Japanese cinema—is totally overrated...

As for this movie specifically, it’s complete garbage. I mean, give them credit for the atmosphere, but the plot is full of holes. Plus, it was just boring. I have zero interest in watching the original...

It was the same story with the Japanese version of Krug; I could barely make it to the end because of how much trash they try to pass off as content. There's no way I'm sitting through an American remake either...
Adam Harris7 Adam Harris7 Member
21 messages
joined Mar 2011
#23 ·
Lawrence Booth2 said:Here are a few titles for you skeptics.
😛Just one title:

Lawrence Booth2, where on earth am I supposed to acquire all of those—or perhaps just a fraction of them, shall we say? And please, don't suggest looking online.
Jose Miller17 Jose Miller17 Active Member
162 messages
joined Sep 2003
#24 ·
Looks like redowl90 is back at it with the nonsense again. 🎉
Lawrence Booth2 Lawrence Booth2 Regular
297 messages
joined Sep 2022
#25 ·
You can find them online...
😁😁😁
Where else would you look?

🙄

www.asiancult.com
That's the spot for reviews... and finding the original Netflix releases

😁
Brian Gonzalez7 Brian Gonzalez7 Member
35 messages
joined Feb 2004
#26 ·
BlueMirela said:Man, the Japanese are only good when it comes to tech... when it's movies...
Boo, Japanese................................!!

Honestly, Japanese filmmakers are absolute legends. I’ll say it again: Takashi Miike is the greatest director of all time. And don't even get me started on those mindless American remakes :2up:
Lawrence Booth2 Lawrence Booth2 Regular
297 messages
joined Sep 2022
#27 ·
BlueMirela said:hey, Americans are only good when it comes to tech, but when it comes to movies....
boo, Americans................!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Right, because there's so much "tech" in Rashomon, Kurosawa 7. Seven Samurai, Samurai Rebellion, Kobayashi 2. Seppuk, The Woman in the Dunes, Living, Lady Snowblood...

🙂
Jose Miller17 Jose Miller17 Active Member
162 messages
joined Sep 2003
#28 ·
Lawrence Booth2 said:Yeah, right, "technology" in Rashomon, Seven Samurai, Samurai Rebellion, Kobayashi 2. Seppuk, Harakiri, The Woman in the Dunes, Living, Lady Snowblood...
🙂

Honestly, Lawrence Booth2, you're just throwing pearls before swine.😁 😁
Donna Nelson23 Donna Nelson23 Active Member
91 messages
joined Dec 2004
#29 ·
I didn't even realize Dark Water was a remake...

That’s just how I am when I head to the theater to watch whatever—total wannabe circle vibes
Jesse Sanchez7 Jesse Sanchez7 Member
10 messages
joined Apr 2006
#30 ·
Japanese cinema is massively overrated.👎 Honestly, all these hipster kids need is some guy to tell them, "Oh man, you have to see this latest Takashi Miike flick where a girl stuffs a severed head into a takeout box while the protagonist sleeps with his cat before getting clobbered by a random dude with a brick," and suddenly everyone's lining up to watch it. Give me a break...
quietdriver3 quietdriver3 Regular
290 messages
joined Mar 2005
#31 ·
Jesse Sanchez7 said:American cinema is way over-rated, if you ask me.👎 I guess it's just enough for some hipster kids to go, "Oh wow, this latest Takashi Miike flick is so deep because he lost his head and a girl shoved it in a box, and then there was some weird scene involving a cat and a guy getting hit with a brick," and suddenly everyone wants to see it... it's just whatever...


unlike those non-hipster types who pretty much realize that all these movies follow that exact same pattern...

... and they end up looking kind of silly 🙂
Gary Kelly8 Gary Kelly8 Member
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joined Apr 2006
#32 ·
Jesse Sanchez7 said:...'man, in that last Takashi Miike flick, they basically obsessed over some guy's head until a girl stuffed it into a takeout box, and then he's just there having a moment with his cat while some random dude starts bashing his skull in with a brick'...

Wait, which movie is that even?!
Does anyone know where I can track it down?!?
Jose Miller17 Jose Miller17 Active Member
162 messages
joined Sep 2003
#33 ·
I was actually stunned that anyone else could write such absolute nonsense on this sub. I went to check if Jesse Sanchez7 was just some bot clone of a loser... but nope, he's the real deal!! 😲 😲 ..there are plenty more just like him 😢
northerncrane4 northerncrane4 Regular
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joined Aug 2005
#34 ·
Brian Gonzalez7 said:Japanese filmmakers are absolute kings... I'll say it again: Takashi Miike is the greatest director of all time.

But when exactly did that era actually start, in your opinion?

For me, it all clicked when I watched Ichi. Mr. Miike must have been living on nothing but pure fiber for a year before filming—because I've never seen a bigger pile of garbage. And mind you, I once found myself at the Zoo right as Tantor was opening.
Lawrence Booth2 Lawrence Booth2 Regular
297 messages
joined Sep 2022
#35 ·
Here’s a little bit of American cinema for you...

1. Samurai Rebellion
(In my opinion, the most complete samurai film ever made) Nagisa Oshima

2. Harakiri, again Nagisa Oshima—the script is just incredible

3. 3. Onibab, a survival story about two women in medieval USA. .

4. The Woman in the Dunes, based on the novel by Kobo Abe—a modern piece depicting life in the desert and the people forcibly trapped there

5. Kwaidan, ghost stories and such, Nagisa Oshima

6. Kobayashi 6. Dodeskaden, a loooong film about modern life and people who have nothing left to live for, Kurosawa

7. Kurosawa 7. Seven Samurai, a samurai classic

8. 8. The Throne of Blood, yet another brilliant Kurosawa adaptation of Shakespeare

9. 9. Sword of Vengeance / Baby Cart / Lone Wolf and Cub, a six-film series about an outcast samurai's revenge and his child (Itto Ogami and Daigoro)

10. Ikiru, a contemporary film about an aging man realizing he has very little time left

11. Sonatine, a Takashi Miike film about the mafia

12. Violent Cop, another one from Takeshi Kitano. When his films first started airing, the American mafia would actually send him info regarding their own organizational customs. They were apparently that impressed by how realistic the portrayal was.

13. Shinobi no mono/Zoko shinobi no mono..., a six-film historical series about the fall of the Iga ninjas

14. Life of Oharu, a traditional drama

12. Tales of the Tair clan,

13. Sansho Day, feudal life in the USA

14. Ugetsu Monogatari, medieval times in the USA

15. Rashomon, an unforgettable Akira Kurosawa

16. Lady Snowblood, a samurai tale where, after her family is murdered, a woman goes to prison and gives birth to a girl whose destiny is vengeance. It becomes this epic saga that people write books about, where the author meets the avenger (six films total)

17. Samurai I, II, III, the life of Miyamoto Musashi, Toshiro Mifune

18. Dreams, a Kurosawa mosaic of films

19. Yojimbo, an unforgettable Toshiro Mifune as a bodyguard

20. Sanjuro, the second part of the series

21. Owl Castle, another adaptation of American history concerning the fall of the ninjas

22. Chushingura, an epic about 47 samurai who avenged their master and then committed mass Harakiri

23. Zatoichi, Blind Swordsman-The Chest of Gold, a film featuring both brothers from Wakayama; there are about ten Zatoichi films out there

24. Ran, a Kurosawa adaptation of Shakespeare

25. double suicide, a medieval drama about girls being sold into brothels

I haven't even seen about 8 of these titles... meanwhile, the people spitting venom online have probably seen them all and still think they can judge the entire American film industry based on one single movie
🙂
quietdriver3 quietdriver3 Regular
290 messages
joined Mar 2005
#36 ·
northerncrane4 said:because I don't think I've ever seen a bigger pile of garbage.


maybe try looking in a mirror 👋
northerncrane4 northerncrane4 Regular
384 messages
joined Aug 2005
#37 ·
quietdriver3 said:try using a mirror 👋

Extremely witty. Truly—a brilliant setup for the second season of "our little clinic."
quietdriver3 quietdriver3 Regular
290 messages
joined Mar 2005
#38 ·
northerncrane4 said:That’s pretty funny. Honestly, it’s a great way to kick off season two of "our little clinic."


I guess all credit and congrats go to my inspiration here; your volcanic taste in movies 😉
northerncrane4 northerncrane4 Regular
384 messages
joined Aug 2005
#39 ·
quietdriver3 said:All praise and congratulations to my inspiration—your volcanic taste in film is unmatched.😉

When George mentioned he based Samantha's character on a real person, I told him—no way—nobody could actually be that funny.
quietdriver3 quietdriver3 Regular
290 messages
joined Mar 2005
#40 ·
Mr. Beast said:So when George mentioned that Samantha's character was based on a real person, I was just like, no way, there's no actual human being out there who could be that funny.


Whoops, two typos in one sentence... I guess my little jabs actually got under your skin after all 😛

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