Mushroom poisoning: anyone dealt with this?

Of all those poisonous fungi, I find myself most fascinated by the mountain red cap (Cortinarius orellanus Fr.)... It was quite famously utilized during the days of the Roman Empire, specifically when the Romans would host grand banquets intended to dispose of certain individuals they found inconvenient... One simply consumes the mushroom and then passes away roughly a month later... 🙏 🙏

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lethal_webcaps

It is lethally toxic. Up until the 1950s, almost all mushrooms within the Cortinarius genus were mistakenly considered safe to eat. That changed when an outbreak of poisoning occurred in the American town of Poznan involving this specific species. Out of 102 people poisoned, 11 perished. This particular poisoning syndrome was dubbed Orellan syndrome because of the thermostable toxin, orellanine, which was isolated from the fruiting bodies of these fungi. It is incredibly insidious; it possesses cumulative properties and features a very long incubation period—ranging from three days up to three weeks—and if medical intervention isn't timely, it leads to organ failure and eventually death. Furthermore, orellanine has been detected in several other species within the Leprocybe section.

So, here’s the deal regarding how those butterfly cocoons affect you:
http://www.erowid.org/plants/amanita...es_info1.shtml - talk about a wild ride!
You know, people are always out there hunting for certain types of amanita on purpose because of their hallucinogenic 🙂 vibes, and then—oops—they accidentally grab a cocoon instead, and suddenly everything is just pure, chaotic bliss, right? 🤮🙂

Three days ago, I was out in the woods thinking I’d found some hallucinogenic psilocybe. I managed to knock back about seven small ones. Then yesterday and today, I picked some others—the kind that might actually be toxic—though they looked almost identical to the psilocybe cyanescens I saw before. My girlfriend basically kicked me out the door and sent me straight to the ER about two hours ago once she realized what I’d swallowed. To make matters worse, the doctor there was incredibly dismissive; she told me they wouldn't even admit me unless I were in a coma, essentially saying I was playing games with my life. She then had the nerve to suggest that once I end up in the infectious disease ward, she’ll have plenty of time to "play" with me when my liver starts failing. I honestly don't get that kind of attitude. I'm typing this on my phone while everyone else is asleep. What am I supposed to do here? Is there any actual natural remedy for poisoning? She claimed she didn't have the time to run blood tests because she had much more serious cases to deal with. Wikipedia says a lethal dose is 30 grams, and I think I took somewhere between 15 and 20. Right now, my stomach is killing me and I've got acid burning all the way up my throat.

John Hill6 said:Three days ago, I was out in the woods thinking I’d found some hallucinogenic psilocybe. I managed to knock back about seven small ones. Then yesterday and today, I picked some others—the kind that might actually be toxic—though they looked almost identical to the psilocybe cyanescens I saw before. My girlfriend basically kicked me out the door and sent me straight to the ER about two hours ago once she realized what I’d swallowed. To make matters worse, the doctor there was incredibly dismissive; she told me they wouldn't even admit me unless I were in a coma, essentially saying I was playing games with my life. She then had the nerve to suggest that once I end up in the infectious disease ward, she’ll have plenty of time to "play" with me when my liver starts failing. I honestly don't get that kind of attitude. I'm typing this on my phone while everyone else is asleep. What am I supposed to do here? Is there any actual natural remedy for poisoning? She claimed she didn't have the time to run blood tests because she had much more serious cases to deal with. Wikipedia says a lethal dose is 30 grams, and I think I took somewhere between 15 and 20. Right now, my stomach is killing me and I've got acid burning all the way up my throat.

How do you know they were pupae now if you didn't know that three days ago? Whatever, man... just go to the ER... the "natural remedy" for you is a liver transplant...

And people say Darwin was a fool...

Alexander Thompson said:How do you know they were pupae now if you didn't know that three days ago? Whatever, man... just go to the ER... the "natural remedy" for you is a liver transplant...

And people say Darwin was a fool...

Actually, I don't feel bad at all—my stomach isn't even acting up. My girlfriend found a few in my backpack and told me to get those pupae out of the apartment immediately; I just looked at her and said, "I already ate them."

I’m honestly not sure if I’d handle this the right way, but my first move would be to stick two fingers down my throat to get it all out, then follow up with some activated charcoal. Maybe I'm wrong, but that's what I'd do.

So, when did you actually eat this? If you were truly poisoned, you’d be feeling the effects within a few hours, not dragging it out over several days. And for heaven's sake, people—stop picking wild mushrooms unless you actually know what you're doing.

With the mountain red cap, you won't feel much at first, which is the scary part because by the time those symptoms actually kick in after a couple of days, your body has already taken a massive hit. Honestly, if you aren't messing around, you need to get to an ER immediately so they can start working on you before things get out of hand. This thing is seriously, incredibly toxic, so please don't just sit there waiting to see what happens... If you're positive you ingested them, your best bet is to call Poison Control or head straight to a top-tier hospital like Mayo Clinic where they’ll actually take you seriously.

Seriously, how on earth did you mistake a common wildflower for a psilocybin mushroom? 🤷
This isn't something you play around with...

frozenorca63 said:With the mountain red cap, you won't feel much at first, which is the scary part because by the time those symptoms actually kick in after a couple of days, your body has already taken a massive hit. Honestly, if you aren't messing around, you need to get to an ER immediately so they can start working on you before things get out of hand. This thing is seriously, incredibly toxic, so please don't just sit there waiting to see what happens... If you're positive you ingested them, your best bet is to call Poison Control or head straight to a top-tier hospital like Mayo Clinic where they’ll actually take you seriously.

That makes it even more unbelievable that the ER staff just brushed him off. 🤷

Alexander Thompson said:How do you know they were pupae now if you didn't know that three days ago? Whatever, man... just go to the ER... the "natural remedy" for you is a liver transplant...

And people say Darwin was a fool...

So, let me get this straight—your girlfriend told you they were pupae... and you just, I don't know, tossed them out?

I really hope you're just messing with us here...

melloworca6 said:That makes it even more unbelievable that the ER staff just brushed him off. 🤷

The whole thing really comes down to whether they actually took him seriously or not. I mean, I’ve had my fair share of weird encounters at the local urgent care... ugh, but look, if he isn't just trolling and actually swallowed them, he needs to get to a doctor ASAP. And obviously, he should bring those damn butterfly pieces along so they can see exactly what he's dealing with...

frozenorca63 said:The whole thing really comes down to whether they actually took him seriously or not. I mean, I’ve had my fair share of weird encounters at the local urgent care... ugh, but look, if he isn't just trolling and actually swallowed them, he needs to get to a doctor ASAP. And obviously, he should bring those damn butterfly pieces along so they can see exactly what he's dealing with...

It’s kind of hard to wrap my head around someone mistaking his magic psilocybin for actual caterpillars, but honestly, man, what kind of world are we living in now 🤷...

Alexander Thompson said:It’s kind of hard to wrap my head around someone mistaking his magic psilocybin for actual caterpillars, but honestly, man, what kind of world are we living in now 🤷...

Stop trolling. There's a species of psilocybe native to this part of the country that looks almost identical to them—when they're young, the resemblance is striking. Why would anyone just make that up? I was out foraging in the woods near St. Louis recently and ended up eating about ten small dandelions because I was convinced they were the real deal. Then, just yesterday and the day before, I spotted some that look suspiciously like *cyanescens*. If I start feeling symptoms, don't even think about labeling me an addict or having some doctor talk down to me.

Alexander Thompson said:It’s kind of hard to wrap my head around someone mistaking his magic psilocybin for actual caterpillars, but honestly, man, what kind of world are we living in now 🤷...

They don't even look remotely similar, though who knows, maybe he was tripping on those first ones when he went out picking the dandelions???!!!

So, did you actually manage to save any of those mushroom remains you ate? Honestly, if I were in your shoes, I’d head straight to a specialist to confirm whether they were actually chanterelles or something much more sinister—you need to rule that out immediately. Once that's settled, get yourself to an ER right away... have them run a full blood panel first so they can check for any immediate signs of toxicity, and then the doctors can figure out the next steps from there. Good luck. 🙂

John Hill6 said:Stop trolling. There's a species of psilocybe native to this part of the country that looks almost identical to them—when they're young, the resemblance is striking. Why would anyone just make that up? I was out foraging in the woods near St. Louis recently and ended up eating about ten small dandelions because I was convinced they were the real deal. Then, just yesterday and the day before, I spotted some that look suspiciously like *cyanescens*. If I start feeling symptoms, don't even think about labeling me an addict or having some doctor talk down to me.

Man, if you actually swallowed those, stop worrying about people being rude and get to an urgent care right now... grab some samples of what you ate and bring them with you, because by the time you start feeling sick, it might be too late. Seriously, don't mess around, that mushroom is LETHAL!!!!!

frozenorca63 said:They don't even look remotely similar, though who knows, maybe he was tripping on those first ones when he went out picking the dandelions???!!!

That's probably the only way it makes sense...

John Hill6 said:Stop trolling. There's a species of psilocybe native to this part of the country that looks almost identical to them—when they're young, the resemblance is striking. Why would anyone just make that up? I was out foraging in the woods near St. Louis recently and ended up eating about ten small dandelions because I was convinced they were the real deal. Then, just yesterday and the day before, I spotted some that look suspiciously like *cyanescens*. If I start feeling symptoms, don't even think about labeling me an addict or having some doctor talk down to me.

🤷

Darwin is the man—I'll probably grab some once I'm feeling less lazy...

John Hill6 said:Three days ago, I was out in the woods thinking I’d found some hallucinogenic psilocybe. I managed to knock back about seven small ones. Then yesterday and today, I picked some others—the kind that might actually be toxic—though they looked almost identical to the psilocybe cyanescens I saw before. My girlfriend basically kicked me out the door and sent me straight to the ER about two hours ago once she realized what I’d swallowed. To make matters worse, the doctor there was incredibly dismissive; she told me they wouldn't even admit me unless I were in a coma, essentially saying I was playing games with my life. She then had the nerve to suggest that once I end up in the infectious disease ward, she’ll have plenty of time to "play" with me when my liver starts failing. I honestly don't get that kind of attitude. I'm typing this on my phone while everyone else is asleep. What am I supposed to do here? Is there any actual natural remedy for poisoning? She claimed she didn't have the time to run blood tests because she had much more serious cases to deal with. Wikipedia says a lethal dose is 30 grams, and I think I took somewhere between 15 and 20. Right now, my stomach is killing me and I've got acid burning all the way up my throat.

I have just one question: how much does your girlfriend actually know about mycology to be able to say with such certainty that they were death caps?

Anyway, get yourself to the ER. Bypass that doctor's attitude and just be upfront—if you're certain or even just suspecting—that you ingested something you shouldn't have. Honestly, why worry about hurting someone's feelings or dealing with social awkwardness right now? Would you really wait until things got significantly worse before seeking help?

Either this is just internet trolling or we're looking at a genuine tragedy, because there isn't much middle ground if these reports about infant mortality and delayed symptoms are actually accurate.
One more thing—ER departments keep meticulous records. They document exactly who came in, why they were there, and what diagnostic tests were performed. There are strict protocols in place. You can't just brush someone off and send them home without a paper trail. If a patient truly showed up, reported their symptoms, and was met with unprofessional behavior from a doctor only to be told to come back once their liver starts failing, then that physician is in serious trouble.