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Info Desk [Paperwork, ordering, wait times, procedures, booklets, prescriptions...]

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Robert Adams88 Robert Adams88 Member
17 messages
joined Jun 2013
#901 ·
So, I’ve got a full blood panel coming up soon—which, let's face it, is always a little nerve-wracking—and I was wondering how I can make sure the results actually reflect my real health status. Like, am I allowed to eat breakfast that morning? Or should I be cutting back on all the greasy stuff for a few days leading up to it? Any advice would be huge...
melloworca6 melloworca6 Regular
551 messages
joined May 2010
#902 ·
I figure you shouldn't eat anything in the morning, and if you're getting your blood sugar checked, you absolutely have to be fasting.

Just eat the way you normally do; that’s the only way to get an honest look at things. What’s the point of obsessing over your diet, cutting out fats, or upping certain nutrients if you aren't doing that on a daily basis anyway? If you don't, the results won't reflect reality. Personally, I don't do anything special before my KKS tests, except I never eat or drink anything—water is fine—before the draw.
Megan Wells8 Megan Wells8 Newcomer
1 message
joined Jun 2013
#903 ·
Hey everyone...
Not totally sure if I'm posting this in the right spot—if I've messed up, please just move the thread for me.
So, my husband saw his doctor today and was asking for a referral for some blood work.
He hasn't had a checkup in like two years, so I figured we might as well get that out of the way while we were at it.
He works as a welder in some pretty rough conditions, too.
The doctor basically told him she can't just hand out referrals whenever someone feels like it—apparently, if he wants blood work done, he needs to go private and pay out of pocket, or just come back when he actually starts showing symptoms of an illness.
And now... well, we're wondering who's actually in the right here?
It doesn't make any sense to us—we're paying for our health insurance, then he goes to the doctor for once and she refuses because there aren't any specific symptoms yet. What happened to regular preventative care?
Just to give some context, about a year ago, I realized I had major thyroid issues during a similar kind of preventative screening. The symptoms kind of crept up on me so slowly that I didn't even notice them at first.
Maybe we're overreacting a bit because that whole thing spooked us, but I really don't think getting a checkup every couple of years is asking for too much.
Thanks in advance for any insight you guys have.
Lawrence Alvarez2 Lawrence Alvarez2 Member
29 messages
joined Mar 2008
#904 ·
Hey everyone, I’m looking for a bit of insight if anyone’s dealt with this before.
What happens if my doctor basically brushes me off and refuses to schedule my checkup? Like, they tell me the clinic is slammed and I should just call back after the summer ends. 🙄
Do I actually have the right to go see a private specialist instead and then try to get reimbursed by my insurance? Thanks!
David Mitchell4 David Mitchell4 Active Member
61 messages
joined Apr 2011
#905 ·
Megan Wells8, you know how it works with a general practitioner. You have to show up with a pre-packaged list of symptoms and reasons, and then you really have to sell it if you want to get that referral...
Lawrence Alvarez2, wait, is he really the only doctor in town?
Lawrence Alvarez2 Lawrence Alvarez2 Member
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joined Mar 2008
#906 ·
Sandra Brooks91 said:Megan Wells8, you know how it goes with your primary care physician—you basically have to show up with a whole list of symptoms and reasons all lined up just to talk them into giving you a referral...
Lawrence Alvarez2, wait, is he really the only doctor available?

I should've been clearer, I'm talking about your regular OB-GYN, not some specialist visit where you need a referral from a GP first.
vividsailor7 vividsailor7 Active Member
217 messages
joined Sep 2011
#907 ·
Robert Adams88 said:I'm heading in soon for a full blood panel, and I want to make sure my results are as accurate as possible. Is fasting actually required? Should I cut back on heavy, greasy foods a few days beforehand? Help me out here...

You don't strictly have to fast, even though some people stubbornly insist you do.

Megan Wells8 said:Hey everyone...
My husband saw his doctor today to ask for a referral for blood work.
He hasn't had a checkup in two years, so I suggested we just get everything done at once.
He works as a welder in pretty harsh conditions.
Well, she told him she can't just hand out referrals whenever anyone feels like asking.
She said if he wants blood work, he should go to a private clinic and pay for it himself, or wait until he actually shows symptoms of an illness.
So, now... we're wondering who's actually right here?
It makes zero sense to us. We pay for our health insurance, he goes to the doctor for the first time in ages, and she refuses because he isn't "sick" yet. What happened to preventative care?
To give you context, about a year ago, I discovered I had major thyroid issues during a similar preventative screening. The symptoms crept up on me so slowly I didn't even notice them.
Maybe we're overreacting because we were spooked by my diagnosis, but I really feel like a checkup every two years shouldn't be asking too much.
Thanks in advance for any insight.

On one hand, I see where bloodan is coming from.
But in this specific situation, I agree—he absolutely should have gone in for a basic physical.
David Mitchell4 David Mitchell4 Active Member
61 messages
joined Apr 2011
#908 ·
Laura Barnes said:I didn't make it clear—this was about choosing a specific OBGYN, not just some routine specialist visit via a referral.

So, you call your sister, tell her you're in intense pain and experiencing light bleeding, and ask when she can squeeze you in. And then, because it's an emergency, she manages to get you in somewhere. Is that how this works now?
Brandon Lopez6 Brandon Lopez6 Regular
656 messages
joined Feb 2010
#909 ·
vividsailor7 said:You don't need to be a snob, even if some people here are being stubborn about it.

Then how is something like blood sugar supposed to stay accurate?
Lawrence Alvarez2 Lawrence Alvarez2 Member
29 messages
joined Mar 2008
#910 ·
Sandra Brooks91 said:It’s funny how you call her sister, tell her you’re in agony and having some light bleeding, and then ask when they can squeeze you in. And then she just shoves you somewhere because—hey, it's an emergency...

I told them right away that I was feeling this sharp, stabbing pain, and all she tells me is that she's keeping an eye on it, so just call back once they get home from the pharmacy.😁
Well, you should've just said, "Look, I'm calling again tomorrow to let you know I'm in too much pain to wait and I'm actually getting pretty scared," and then we'll see where that gets you...
melloworca6 melloworca6 Regular
551 messages
joined May 2010
#911 ·
vividsailor7 said:You don't need to fast, even if some people keep insisting you do.

So food doesn't affect things like blood clotting at all?

Sugar definitely requires fasting. I'm not sure if the same goes for cholesterol, triglycerides, and stuff like that—it just seems logical to me. It’s not exactly the same thing whether I gorge myself on pepperoni pizza and bacon right before the draw or if I eat nothing at all.
Larry Walker24 Larry Walker24 Veteran
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joined Jun 2022
#912 ·
melloworca6 said:So you're saying food doesn't affect things like blood clotting at all?

Sugar definitely has to be taken on an empty stomach. I'm not totally sure if it’s the same deal for cholesterol, triglycerides, or stuff like that, but it feels right—it’s not exactly the same thing whether I show up totally fasted or if I just stuffed myself with pepperoni pizza and bacon right before the draw.

Last time I went in for a full blood panel, my doctor told me straight up that I had to be fasting.
vividsailor7 vividsailor7 Active Member
217 messages
joined Sep 2011
#913 ·
Elizabeth Davis said:So how on earth would blood sugar be accurate then?

It won't be. But the issue here is specifically regarding the KKS—at least, that's what I mean when I talk about a complete blood count.

melloworca6 said:So you're saying food doesn't affect things like blood clotting at all?

Blood sugar definitely requires fasting. I'm not entirely sure if cholesterol, triglycerides, and stuff like that require fasting too, but it makes sense to me. It’s not the same thing whether I show up after stuffing myself with pizza and bacon or if I haven't eaten a thing.

Now, don't go overboard with the bacon thing... let's stay grounded. But look, if you eat a sandwich and then go in for a KKS, CRP, AST, ALT, GGT, creatinine, or urea test, nothing is going to be messed up.
However, for biochemical tests like glucose, iron, or a lipid panel, you absolutely have to be fasting.

Larry Walker24 said:When I went to get my blood drawn (for a complete blood count), the doctor told me I had to be fasting.

And I told him that some people actually say that.
Brandon Lopez6 Brandon Lopez6 Regular
656 messages
joined Feb 2010
#914 ·
So why is it that they never take blood in the afternoon?
And why can't you even go to a private clinic for a blood draw in the afternoon?

😕
vividsailor7 vividsailor7 Active Member
217 messages
joined Sep 2011
#915 ·
Elizabeth Davis said:Then why on earth is blood never drawn in the afternoon?
And why don't even private labs draw blood in the afternoon?

😕

It's not that they *don't* do it. This link actually covers which tests require you to be fasting, and if you look at the right-hand column, it clearly states that samples are accepted until 6:00 PM.

Basically, almost all private labs operate this way.
As for hospitals, the exact same question applies: why don't internal medicine departments—and honestly, most outpatient clinics—work in the afternoon? Why can't we get things like EKGs, TTEs, or spirometry done later in the day?
Actually, in some hospitals—and this is becoming more common—they *do* work late.
melloworca6 melloworca6 Regular
551 messages
joined May 2010
#916 ·
vividsailor7 said:It's not exactly bacon... don't go overboard. But if you just grab a sandwich before going in for, say, KKS, CRP, AST, ALT, GGT, creatinine, or urea tests, it won't matter much.
But you should probably fast before doing blood work for glucose, iron, or a lipid panel.

Think I'm overreacting? 😁

Come visit the Midwest and see how much we love to snack. 😳 Honestly, seeing someone eat bacon or sausage for breakfast wouldn't even shock you. Personally, I can't handle anything heavy in the morning; that's more like lunch food to me, but hey, there are plenty of people out there who load up on that kind of stuff first thing in the AM.
vividsailor7 vividsailor7 Active Member
217 messages
joined Sep 2011
#917 ·
melloworca6 said:You think I'm exaggerating? 😁

Come down to the Midwest if you want to see how much we love to gorge ourselves. 😳 Honestly, I don't think a plate of bacon and sausage for breakfast would even shock you. Personally, I can't stomach anything heavy first thing in the morning—to me, that feels more like a heavy lunch than breakfast—but hey, there are definitely crowds out there who load up on that kind of stuff early in the day.

Look, I've got plenty of Midwest blood in me too. It wouldn't weird me out to have bacon and sausage, maybe some cheese and cream, for breakfast, but that’s beside the point.
When I said you were exaggerating, I meant eating heavy bacon and sausage right before getting your blood drawn.
Brandon Lopez6 Brandon Lopez6 Regular
656 messages
joined Feb 2010
#918 ·
Since we’re already off-topic...

I think there are a few reasons why people tell patients they need to show up fasting:
1) Because if checking their KKS or cholesterol levels doesn't actually change much for them, and then later a doctor tells them they *don't* need to fast for one test but *do* for another, people get confused. They end up thinking the doctor is just blowing hot and cold, you know?
2) A lot of folks take breakfast pretty seriously, just like > mentioned. My granddad (even though he isn't from the > 😁) eats five eggs and half a sausage every single morning. Every. Single. Morning. Since he was a kid. If his doctor told him, "Hey, you don't have to fast," he wouldn't suddenly switch to some light snack—he'd just go right ahead and eat his standard breakfast
3) You've got Joe going in for one test and Jane going in for another, and they run into each other leaving the clinic. One's told she needs to be fasting, the other isn't, and suddenly there's this total mess of confusion. Neither of them knows what's what anymore, and once again, the doctor looks like an idiot who can't keep his story straight.

Honestly, I don't get why doctors assume everyone should have a medical degree just to understand why one test requires fasting and another doesn't. 🤷
rapidskipper11 rapidskipper11 Newcomer
7 messages
joined Nov 2012
#919 ·
If I’m noticing regular fluid buildup on the top of my feet, what kind of specialist should I see, and what specific tests would they likely run to figure out the underlying cause?
Jose Miller3 Jose Miller3 Regular
446 messages
joined Mar 2024
#920 ·
Honestly, you should just head to your primary care doctor... they’ll probably have a much better idea than some random anonymous people on a forum about which tests you actually need to figure out what's going on.

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