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The Phantom of the Opera

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Morgan Martin31 Morgan Martin31 Member
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joined Jul 2006
#41 ·
Hey, listen, Kiki—maybe in the future you should think twice before watching movies that you end up throwing money away on.
Because honestly, you’re practically driving us all away with those toxic comments of yours. 😬
Okay, I’ll admit that this whole thing with the mask feels a bit silly, especially since it looks so obviously artificial... but I suppose some things are just worth overlooking... you have to give the lead actor a little grace here.😁
Oh, and for me, the absolute best song has to be "The Point of No Return."😍 (It's just pure passion, really)😍
And yeah, if you ask me, the title track is the only one that actually captures that 80s vibe.
Everything else just sounds like classic orchestral music.😉
Morgan Martin31 Morgan Martin31 Member
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joined Jul 2006
#42 ·
Two and a half hours of the most repulsive music I have ever had the misfortune of hearing. Honestly, I don't think even under extreme duress would I sit through that.
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Peter Cooper5 Peter Cooper5 Active Member
55 messages
joined May 2007
#43 ·
I wasn't really feeling the musical aspect or the whole concept of the movie... but I have to admit, Gerard was absolutely top-tier 🙂 I've seen him in a bunch of different films and he really knows how to switch things up... most actors just stick to one specific genre because that's where they're comfortable, and it works for them... but he isn't like that, and he nails it every single time.. though, honestly, two and a half hours felt a bit long
Laura Palmer25 Laura Palmer25 Active Member
102 messages
joined Aug 2007
#44 ·
Just like opera isn't really meant for the masses, this movie isn't either... Someone probably should have mentioned upfront that this feels more like an adaptation of the opera than a musical. As it stands, it’s mostly just going to give a headache or some mockery from people who were expecting a horror flick where the Phantom goes on a bloody rampage through the opera house.
Amanda Stewart7 Amanda Stewart7 Active Member
70 messages
joined Sep 2008
#45 ·
northernfalcon30 said:I actually enjoyed the movie. I wouldn't even call it a musical—it’s more of an opera, since there's basically constant singing (and isn't that what an opera is supposed to be? 🙄). The music is massive, powerful, and just hits you hard. It's passionate and fills up the whole room. To be honest, the acting wasn't even my main focus.
The sets are gorgeous, though the mask looks suspiciously like something out of Star Trek. And the guy? He’s actually quite handsome, but I guess they intended to keep him mostly in the shadows.
When you see a title like 'The Phantom of the Opera,' you expect an opera. You want lavish costumes, grand scenery, all that over-the-top stuff that fits the genre, and music that sticks in your head for days afterward.
The score is everything here. Some people are going to absolutely love it, while others will probably hate it.
Either way, this isn't exactly a "popcorn movie" for the masses; it's more for a smaller group of enthusiasts.
Overall, pretty solid. You don't always have to compromise just to please everyone.

I felt the same way when I watched it a few years back. You hit the nail on the head with your description, though.
Peter Cooper5 Peter Cooper5 Active Member
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joined May 2007
#46 ·
Oh man, I totally missed that comment, and honestly? It’s such a spot-on description!
Grace Anderson3 Grace Anderson3 Member
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joined May 2011
#47 ·
I’m almost ready to say this movie blew me away. The production design and costumes? A perfect ten. The opulence, the energy, the dancing... that’s exactly what I look for in a musical. I’m glad they finally (after so many versions) worked in the actual arias from the stage show—but that’s also where they missed the mark.
Kudos to Gerard, he really gave it his all, 🙏 but the director should have respected the original script a bit more (since the Phantom is supposed to be around 50 years old). They should have cast an experienced singer for the lead (it would have made the vocals so much more impactful) instead of just picking young, pretty Hollywood stars to pack the theaters.
Christina—the supplements claim she actually sings in the film; if that’s true, good for her... because in some parts, her singing (lip-syncing) didn't feel convincing at all. image

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There are tons of different takes on the Phantom, and here is what I’ve seen:

The Silent one from 1925—what else can I say? It’s a classic drama, the Phantom looks like a vampire, and Lon Chaney’s performance is absolutely masterful!
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I also watched the '83 adaptation. I’d call it a looser interpretation of the Phantom, but it was interesting and unique specifically because it deviates so much from the source material.

Whatever you do, don't watch the '98 horror version unless you're looking for blood, sadistic tearing, and organs being sliced up... plus some pretty unappealing nudity. image

If you have the stomach for a mashup of Freddy Krueger and the Phantom, there's one from '89. I had to skip through parts because I didn't have the patience to sit through the whole thing, but I have to admit, it has the most original masquerade ball ever filmed! image

The Phantom from '43—this is an unparalleled spectacle 🙏 and I think every Phantom of the Opera fan needs to see it. An adaptation where you truly get to enjoy the fun and the luxury. The scene where he gets disfigured by acid really got to me; that part actually made me cry...image My only gripe is that the Phantom's character felt unfinished, and his mask was too simple and forgettable.

The '62 version has everything the '43 version lacks—a dark, gloomy atmosphere and realistic characters with real problems, unpolished. I think this one portrays the Phantom's suffering and psychological profile most intensely. The way they link echoes of the past to the current plot is very intelligent. For me, this is the best Phantom film.
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Mark Peterson5 Mark Peterson5 Newcomer
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joined Mar 2012
#48 ·
AAA, The Phantom of the Opera.
Personally, it’s my absolute favorite, right up there with Les Misérables. I’m a huge fan, though I first "met" Phantom through the 2004 movie version. I was completely obsessed—total fangirl mode for a while... But honestly? Looking back, the movie is pretty poorly made compared to the original musical. They really should have tried harder, especially since it's a film and they had way more tools at their disposal than they do on stage.
As for the cast, Gerard Butler isn't a professional singer, so I think his musical performance was actually quite good, though I can't say the same for his acting. His portrayal didn't scare me at all, which is the problem. It should have. His Phantom wasn't scary or... well, crazy. And the Phantom is supposed to be insane. Jerry's version just lacks that edge of madness.
Emmy did an excellent job, in my opinion, because she captured how naive, vulnerable, and terrified Christine is. Musically, though, I think her voice is a bit weak for the role of Christine, even if she performed it well—not that we should ignore all those years of opera training she put in.
All in all, the movie is decent. I’d give it a 4, purely because I just love Phantom.
Justin Rogers5 Justin Rogers5 Active Member
214 messages
joined Feb 2010
#49 ·
I only tuned in because of Gerard Butler, but I wasn't ready for the non-stop singing. I mean, even High School Musical is a musical, but they don't just sing every single second. Honestly though, Butler’s got a great voice. He actually blew me away as a singer.
Ronald Jones Ronald Jones Active Member
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joined Nov 2014
#50 ·
I finally sat down to watch that movie. 😳 😁

It was absolutely brilliant; I found myself completely swept away by it. 🙂

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