Top Gun

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/men/thin...become-so-gay/ 👍Seriously though, is anyone else seeing this?

👍I mean, look at this...

https://www.ozy.com/opinion/how-gay-...n-really/30378 👍It’s like there’s this whole debate happening right now about whether certain vibes are actually just coded differently than we thought—kind of a wild rabbit hole if you ask me.

https://www.queerty.com/relive-top-g...rsary-20160512 👍And don't even get me started on the classics.

"How could a movie with guys oiled up, riding their phallic vehicles and incredibly high speeds, calling each other cute pet names and playing volleyball be anything but straight?" 😁 Just... think about it!

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I've always found that movie incredibly boring, honestly, both back when I was a kid and even now that I'm an adult. I guess the only thing remotely interesting about the whole thing is Tarantino's theory regarding 🤣

Shpiro said:

It's all about that need for speed. 🙂

Good grief, they’re actually making a sequel to this garbage. I honestly don't think I've seen anything quite this bad in years—a movie all about hyperactive kid pilots acting like assassins. It feels like nothing more than blatant propaganda designed to juice up the military budget. It’s one of the worst attempts at glorifying the armed forces I've ever witnessed... and don't even get me started on the soundtrack; it's enough to give you hives from a mile away. What's next, though? A sequel about drone warfare?

This is honestly going to feel like a total trip back to childhood.

Benjamin Thompson66 said:Man, they’re actually making a sequel to this trash. I haven't seen anything quite this bad in years. It's just a movie about hotshot killer pilots—total propaganda designed to pump up the military budget. One of the worst attempts at glorifying the armed forces I've ever seen. And don't even get me started on the soundtrack; it's an absolute earache. What's next, a sequel all about drone warfare?

From what I’ve heard from the older generation, Top Gun actually had a bit of a rebellious following back in the day during the Yugoslavia era.

In those years leading up to the war, anything with an American vibe served as a sort of protest against Yugoslavia, Communism, and the USSR. For instance, an older relative used to tell me how people in movie theaters would cheer for the Americans and Cruise as if they were watching a high-stakes NBA or NFL game.

Personally, I think this movie has soul—but hey, to each their own—though you really can't deny that it features one of the greatest soundtracks of all time.

P.S. Even if it *was* designed in America to boost the defense budget... so what? If it worked, it worked.

Ethan Martin said:From what I’ve heard from the older generation, Top Gun definitely had some sort of sympathetic, rebellious undertones back in the day here during the Yugoslavia era.

In those years leading up to the war, anything with an American vibe served as a sort of silent protest against Yugoslavia, Communism, and the USSR. For instance, an older relative of mine used to tell me how people in the movie theaters would actually cheer for the Americans and Cruise as if they were watching a high-stakes NBA or NFL game.

To my mind, this film has a certain soul to it, though I know taste is subjective. However, one thing you absolutely cannot deny is that this movie possesses one of the greatest soundtracks ever made.

P.S. Even if it was designed in America specifically to boost military recruitment budgets, so what? It worked.

No offense intended, but I am actually part of that older generation you're referring to, and I can tell you there wasn't any cheering in the theaters—certainly nothing akin to a sports stadium—nor did the film spark any kind of rebellion against Yugoslavia.
The OST was played out; it was a massive hit at the time, but I don't recall listening to it again once the hype died down.
It was essentially a pure recruitment commercial, filmed specifically to fill quotas for fighter pilots—or so I read later on, and it clearly succeeded. Young guys back then genuinely thought they'd find an instructor just like that in Top Gun training. Pure fantasy.

Michael Foster7 said:No offense intended, but I’m part of that older generation you’re talking about—and honestly, watching it in theaters in New York wasn't some massive cheering event like a playoff game, nor did that movie spark any kind of rebellion against the old regime.
The soundtrack was a one-hit wonder; it was huge at the time, but once the hype died down, I don't think I ever touched it again.
It felt like a giant recruitment commercial designed specifically to fill up flight school quotas—which, if I recall correctly, actually worked. Those young guys probably thought they’d all get an instructor looking like that at Top Gun school. Private joke, I guess.

Well, San Diego (where I'm originally from) has always had its own unique vibe🤣.

I know for a fact that back then, everything coming out of America was viewed as a sort of silent protest against the status quo and Communism. It wasn't just being naive—and I say that as someone born in '84, so I wasn't even around for the peak of it—it was just the reality of the era. Things were... well, you know, fundamentally different than they are today.

Take basketball games, for example; people would just start chanting "U.S.A.! U.S.A.!" out of nowhere whenever the Chicago Blackhawks or teams like the New York Yankees or Los Angeles Lakers came to town. Hah.

🙂

Ethan Martin said:From what I’ve heard from the older generation, Top Gun had some pretty sympathetic, rebellious vibes back in the day during the Cold War era.
In those years leading up to the major conflicts, anything with an American flair served as a sort of protest against the old ways—against Communism and the USSR. For instance—my older cousin used to tell me how people in movie theaters would cheer for Americans and Tom Cruise in films against the Russians as if they were at a high-stakes NBA or NFL game.

To my mind, this movie has actual soul—but hey, taste is subjective—though you certainly can't deny that it boasts one of the greatest soundtracks ever made.

P.S. Even if it was designed in America specifically to boost the military budget, so what? At least itwas.

First point:
Madonna caused way more of a rebellion—and that was mostly against common sense.

Second point:
It isn't just a possibility; it's a fact. No two ways about it.

As for the soundtrack—please, even if we're talking about taste... there are plenty worse out there.

Benjamin Thompson66 said:First big point:
Madonna caused way more of an uproar—and honestly, she was mostly just fighting common sense.

Second big point:
It’s not even a matter of opinion; it simply is what it is. No ambiguity there.

As for the soundtrack—hey, if you want to call it a matter of taste... well, there are certainly worse ones out there.

Look, everyone knows Top Gun isn't exactly The Godfather, but it still holds a special place in my heart. And regarding the soundtrack—taste is subjective, sure—but sometimes you realize something is a total cliché, yet you love that cliché so much there's no turning back. I can't exactly lie to myself and pretend I didn't grow up loving Top Gun... because I really did 😁.

Ethan Martin said:From what I’ve gathered from the older generation, Top Gun had a certain rebellious charm back in the States during the old era.

In those years leading up to the big conflicts, anything with an American vibe felt like a quiet act of defiance against the old ways, Communism, and the USSR. I remember my older cousin telling me how people in movie theaters would actually cheer for the Americans and Tom Cruise as they went up against the Russians, almost like they were watching a high-stakes NBA game or a championship football match.

Personally, I think this film has real soul, though I know taste is subjective. One thing you certainly can't deny, however, is that it boasts one of the greatest soundtracks ever made.

P.S. Even if it was designed in America specifically to boost the military budget—so what? At least it worked.

It’s funny... actually, more tragic than funny.
Thank God we didn't have that happening in my civilized little hometown.

Ethan Martin said:I’ve heard from some of the older folks that Top Gun actually had this sort of cool, rebellious vibe back in the day during the Yugoslavia era.

In those years leading up to the war, anything with a US stamp on it felt like a tiny act of defiance against the old system—against Communism and the USSR, really. For instance, an older relative used to tell me how people in movie theaters would cheer for Americans and Tom Cruise in films fighting the Russians, almost like they were at a high-stakes basketball or football game.

Back then, there wasn't even a conversation about how consuming American products was an act of rebellion against the state... because the US was basically the gold standard for everyone there.
Theaters were packed with American movies—people were watching Rambo, Chuck Norris, and pretty much every major US action flick out there.
The Russians were always cast as the villains, and the Warsaw Pact countries were viewed as the bottom of the barrel.

People were honestly uncritical about their love for the USA... they just swallowed American propaganda whole, including blockbusters like Top Gun.

I’m dying to know what the soundtrack is gonna be like for this one. That first movie had an absolute banger of a score, regardless of whether people actually liked the plot or not.

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The old Tomcat is making a comeback.
Honestly, the whole plot feels like a total remake of Firefox with Clint Eastwood, except instead of a MiG, they're swiping an F-14 this time.

Check out this trailer!

Looks pretty intriguing. Got the jacket, the shades, even the bike! And Jennifer!🍿

Ethan Martin said:Well, look, San Diego (that's where I'm from) was always a bit of a unique environment 🤣.

I know for a fact that back then, at least around here, anything coming out of America was viewed as a sort of rebellion against the old ways of the system... against Communism. And it wasn't just being naive—even though I wasn't around during those specific years since I was born in '84—it wasn't naivety. It was just the reality of the era, you know? Things were certainly much different back then than they are today.

Take basketball games, for example. People would just start shouting "U.S.A.! U.S.A.!" out of nowhere whenever teams like CSKA Moscow, Partizan, or Red Star came to visit. Haha.

🙂

The only thing that really moved people back then, both here and across the world—but especially in the States—was that a whole bunch of kids started dreaming about becoming fighter pilots and having these incredible machines right at their fingertips. :-) That was actually the whole point of the original Top Gun, wasn't it? It was largely funded by the US Navy essentially as one massive promotional campaign! You might not believe it, but in the US, people were literally walking straight from the movie theater into US Navy recruitment offices!
I remember asking my teacher if we had any aircraft carriers nearby... just so I could figure out how to apply to be a pilot!
I even know people who headed off to West Point and joined the Air Force specifically because of that movie, all because they wanted to be fighter pilots.

Nowadays, I don't think an effect like that is even possible anymore, at least not in terms of the sheer scale of the euphoria or the propaganda impact. But judging by the trailer, this is going to be a real treat for anyone who loved the original Top Gun and fans of military aviation.

nimblemarlin6 said:Back in Yugoslavia, buying or watching American stuff wasn't seen as some act of rebellion against the state... because Yugoslavia was basically totally pro-American.
China was full of American movies; everyone watched Rambo, Chuck Norris, and all those classic US action flicks.
The Russians were always treated like the villains, and countries in the Warsaw Pact were looked down upon as total losers.

People were honestly uncritical about everything from the States... they just swallowed American propaganda whole, including movies like "Top Gun".

Not really. I remember people at a Politburo meeting actually debating whether to allow Rambo 2 because the Soviets were the main bad guys.