Top Gun
Started by Gregory Smith4 · · 👁 11 views · 100 replies
#82 ·
northerncobra31 said:The trailer looks great, I guess this might actually be a pleasant little surprise.
Honestly, you can't tell anything about what this movie is actually about from the trailer, and I suppose it's impossible to even figure out who the bad guys are. 🤔
#85 ·
From what I can see in the trailer, it’s basically just a recycled version of Top Gun mixed with that Star Wars Death Star trench run sequence. Honestly, since they'll wrap it up in flashy enough packaging, I bet it'll be a decent way to kill about two hours.
#86 ·
Finally, a trailer that doesn't just dump the entire plot on you in two minutes!
It’s like when you head to the theater and spend the pre-show watching a quick recap of five upcoming blockbusters.
It’s like when you head to the theater and spend the pre-show watching a quick recap of five upcoming blockbusters.
#88 ·
At the 2:01 mark, they’re wearing a space suit—presumably for an orbital or suborbital flight.
#89 ·
Maybe I'm the only one who grew up on those classic 80s flicks—you know, the ones with Sylvester Stallone, Arnold Schwarzenegger, Die Hard, and all that—but for some reason, I just never got the hype around Top Gun. I honestly never understood what people found so captivating about it. For me, it’s always been more about the stuff Tomy puts out; they've made my favorite movies of this century, like the last two Mission: Impossible films, Collateral, and Minority Report.
#90 ·
Jack Morgan2 said:Maybe I’m the only one who grew up on those 80s classics—you know, the era of Sylvester Stallone, Arnold, Die Hard, and the like—yet found Top Gun completely underwhelming. I never quite grasped why people find that movie so captivating. For me, Tomy has produced much more compelling cinema in this century (think Collateral, Minority Report, or the last two Mission: Impossible installments...).
+1
By the time I saw it in high school, I wasn't naive enough to swallow that kind of blatant American propaganda.
#91 ·
Leopard 2A5 said:Making mistakes is just being human, but acting like a know-it-all and then throwing a tantrum when someone points out your error? That’s just being a jerk.
And what kind of "scientific dissertation" is this anyway? You mixed up the massive hit Top Gun with that mediocre Iron Eagle, and besides, an F-5 and a Kfir are totally different beasts—the only thing they have in common is that they actually fly.
So maybe brush up on the basics before you try "educating" everyone else.
Honestly, you're the only one here throwing a fit, and you seem to get worked up over pretty much any comment about any movie! Look, movies are entertainment, not a documentary. And let's be real, Top Gun wasn't even *that* huge. It was a decent flick with a great soundtrack and some attractive actresses (and let's face it, Cruise was a total heartthrob for the girls), but that was about it... it was basically teen trash along the lines of Dirty Dancing a year later or La Bamba...
Back then, the heavy hitters were things like Platoon (which absolutely crushed it at the box office), Aliens (now *that* was a massive hit), The Fly (with the brilliant Jeff Goldblum—I can still vividly picture that scene!), Crocodile Dundee, The Karate Kid, Platoon with Clint Eastwood, Cobra starring Sylvester Stallone, Name of the Rose with Sean Connery... I won't even list all the other movies that are way better than that.
And as for all this "teaching," didn't you ignore the MIG-29 "expert" earlier..?
But no, a guy like me just has to call it out. Mr. Expert. 🤦
Star-Lord said:Monty, you really embarrassed yourself there. Just drop it and stop the debate. 😁
If that's truly the greatest shame of my life... man, oh man, I don't know how I'm even going to make it to tomorrow. 😂 😂
#92 ·
Are you telling me Top Gun wasn't a massive hit?
It actually opened at number one at the box office. 🙄
It actually opened at number one at the box office. 🙄
#93 ·
rustywalker1 said:You're telling me Top Gun wasn't huge?
It hit number one at the box office. 🙄
Who's saying it wasn't popular? 🤔
#94 ·
Ethan Brooks59 said:You’re the only one here acting tough, but honestly, you nitpick every single movie comment posted. Look, movies are entertainment, not documentaries. Top Gun wasn't even some massive phenomenon. It was just an okay flick with great music, some attractive actresses (and Cruise was plenty charming for the girls), but that was about it... just teen trash along the lines of Dirty Dancing a year later or La Bamba...
Listen to this contrarian, claiming it wasn't a huge hit. 🤦
Seriously, stop embarrassing yourself. 🤦
By total box office numbers, Top Gun was the most successful film of 1986.
And trying to label something "trash" from this modern perspective—especially when judging something that perfectly captured the zeitgeist and acted as a tribute to the 80s lifestyle—is just plain idiotic.
It’s like going back in 2019 and critiquing some American ninja flick based on the standards set by modern martial arts cinema.
I guess it makes sense that it looks cringey or unwatchable today, and you might wonder how something so silly was even made, but people weren't asking those questions back then. They didn't ask because they didn't know any better.
#95 ·
Paul Scott4 said:Listen to this guy acting like an indie hipster—that movie wasn't even that huge. 🤦
Seriously, stop embarrassing yourself. 🤦
Wait, since when am I an "indie hipster"? 😵 Is that based on these few posts? I mean, sure, I mostly hang out in the Natural Science and SON threads, but still...
Honestly, you're the one making a fool of yourself by trying to slap labels on people. 🤦
Paul Scott4 said:Sure, looking back, it might feel cringe or unwatchable now, and you might wonder how anyone thought filming something so silly was a good idea, but people didn't ask those questions back then. They didn't ask because they simply didn't know any better.
But that’s exactly the point! Making a sequel to that movie now... what for? Just to cash in on nostalgia from people who were sixteen back then and are fifty today? Maybe the movie hit the spot for some people at the time, but even back then, there were movies that were objectively better. Take > or > (which really set the gold standard for cinema), or even 2 Weeks>>, which still maintains its cult following today.
Is profit really the only metric we use to judge a film?
Even if we look strictly at the money, >—which is a much lighter, simpler film—made almost as much (if you adjust for the number of theaters, it's basically equal). Meanwhile, the Oscar-winning >, which alongside > became the benchmark for Vietnam War films, made less. So, it's all pretty relative.
And if you think about the audience back then, who was actually watching >? Teenagers. We can all agree on that. It wasn't older folks (they were probably watching stuff like historical war epics), it wasn't little kids, and it wasn't the newer generations (who either thought it was okay or preferred something like >). So, speaking for myself and based on my own life of watching movies, I’ve been entertained by plenty of much worse films. I honestly think it would have been better if that movie just stayed where it belonged in film history. As for this sequel... I'm not expecting anything more than two hours of mindless chasing and shooting. Seen it all before.
#97 ·
Paul Scott4 said:Look at this guy acting like an indie filmmaker, it wasn't even that huge. 🤦
Give it a rest, man. You're embarrassing yourself. 🤦
Top Gun was actually the highest-grossing movie of 1986 overall.
That’s a fair point, and honestly, it was a killer movie for its era. Like you said—people didn't even know how much better things could get back then. You could say that flick and a bunch of others really defined that whole period...
Ethan Brooks59 said:Wait, since when am I some indie outsider? 😵 You judging me based on these few posts? I mostly hang out in the Natural Science and SON threads, but whatever...
Mostly? Dude, out of 100 posts, maybe one is in Natural Science and like 95 of them are just you tearing people apart in the alternative threads because there's no moderator there... so yeah, you definitely fit the "outsider" vibe...
#98 ·
rustywalker1 said:It's in your previous post.
Whatever. For me, it just stayed legendary. Everything from the museums and sunglasses to motorcycles and leather biker jackets. Everyone was obsessed with that stuff after seeing the movie.🍿
#99 ·
Are we talking about the same crowd that was obsessed with rollerblading just a year prior because of Back to the Future, rocking those shaved sides inspired by Commando, or smashing fruit stands at local carnivals because of Rocky?
It’s funny how it works—just one year after everyone was living in leather jackets, suddenly it was all about tucking t-shirts into jeans thanks to Dirty Dancing. Then it was all about blasting rockabilly hits (think stuff like Dud Dudica or Bebi Bebica) because of La Bamba—back then, the line for movie tickets at the theater in Washington, D.C. would stretch all the way down to Fifth Avenue! Then came the vests worn over bare chests because of Predator... Every single year had its own specific vibe, and every era definitely had its own dedicated following.
It’s funny how it works—just one year after everyone was living in leather jackets, suddenly it was all about tucking t-shirts into jeans thanks to Dirty Dancing. Then it was all about blasting rockabilly hits (think stuff like Dud Dudica or Bebi Bebica) because of La Bamba—back then, the line for movie tickets at the theater in Washington, D.C. would stretch all the way down to Fifth Avenue! Then came the vests worn over bare chests because of Predator... Every single year had its own specific vibe, and every era definitely had its own dedicated following.
#100 ·
Man, that was us! I didn't go as far as punching pork halves, but I definitely ate a raw egg because of him and spent my whole life looking for Adrian. Rocky is still the GOAT, though. Then again, Top Gun was basically the Rocky Guarantee for some people. They're both absolute classics.🍿