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Living with CSCR (Central Serous Chorioretinopathy)

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Roger Phillips5 Roger Phillips5 MemberOP
11 messages
joined Sep 2010
#1 ·
Hey everyone!
Back in 2006, I was hit with Central Serous Retinopathy in both eyes. It’s one of those conditions where doctors basically shrug because they don't truly know the cause—most people assume it's just stress. There isn't even a cure; you just have to wait for the condition to settle down on its own. And honestly? It can happen to anyone at any age.
When this first started, I noticed this weird distortion right in the center of my right eye, and let me tell you, I absolutely panicked. The main issue cleared up after a few months, but I'm still dealing with these annoying light effects. Sometimes I see this blotch, shifting from light to dark, right where that retinal distortion used to be, along with some slight visual warping. My left eye has these spots too, though it didn't deal with the heavy distortion like the right one did.
So, I want to know: is anyone else out there dealing with this exact same thing? How are you handling it? What are you actually doing to help yourself, and has anything actually worked? I really want to swap stories with someone who gets it. From what I've been reading on US forums, once your vision is messed up like this, it never quite goes back to how it was before.

If you want to read more about CSCR-ovac, check it out here:

http://www.centar-zdravlja.net/boles...tija/uzroci/2/
Roger Phillips5 Roger Phillips5 MemberOP
11 messages
joined Sep 2010
#2 ·
I’m seeing very few people here dealing with CSR, if any at all 🙂, and honestly, thank God for that.
Why on earth would that disease ever target me?🤷But look, if anyone actually does run into this condition, please, just write something. Share what you're going through. Give us some real experiences.
mistyjackal842 mistyjackal842 Active Member
206 messages
joined May 2012
#3 ·
How old are you? My mom actually dealt with the exact same CSR about two and a half years ago, but for her, it cleared up completely. It was only in one eye, and honestly, her vision in that eye returned to normal in less than a month. She just took some Diamox tablets for a month and used corticosteroid drops in that eye. For her, it was just blurry vision; she didn't have the deformation you're describing. She doesn't even go in for checkups anymore—they don't even call her back. I guess this kind of thing happens more often with older people.

I’ve also had issues with the retina in my left eye. I actually had a rupture last year due to lattice degeneration, and I even had to undergo laser treatment, even though I'm only 32. So, I suppose these things can happen to us younger people too. Before that, I hadn't had any problems at all.
Roger Phillips5 Roger Phillips5 MemberOP
11 messages
joined Sep 2010
#4 ·
I'm 39 years old.
It's getting scary how often retinal issues are popping up in younger people lately. It honestly breaks my heart that you're going through this too. How's your vision holding up in that eye right now? I did a little digging on Google about what you're dealing with.
I actually took the same kind of pills your mom did, but I completely skipped the eye drops my doctor prescribed. Why? Because they listed glaucoma as a potential side effect, and I wasn't about to gamble with my sight! Besides, those drops were just meant to be an extra, not a necessity. Like my doctor said, the real key is relaxation, getting enough sleep, and just staying calm. Was your mom under a ton of stress when this hit her? Did she deal with headaches beforehand? And was she taking any eye vitamins or changing up her diet at all?
I'm so relieved to hear she's doing better. For a lot of people, it doesn't even come back.
As for me, things are actually sliding downhill a bit right now, and I'm starting to worry. I’m feeling that same eye tension again, just like before that last episode. I've started drinking herbal teas for stress—better to be safe than sorry and try to head off a relapse, right?
mistyjackal842 mistyjackal842 Active Member
206 messages
joined May 2012
#5 ·
I’m glad you reached out. Honestly, I didn't really have any issues with my vision in that eye—even with my -2.75 Dsph prescription, I can see one hundred percent out of it. The retinal tear was located on the periphery, so it didn't actually affect my sight. It was just that there was this constant risk of that small peripheral detachment spreading, which is why I had to go through with the laser photocoagulation.

Lately, though, I've been getting this pretty intense pain in that eye every now and then, so I suppose I’ll have to head in for a checkup. This wasn't happening last year or even at the start of this year. I was taking eye vitamins back then, but this year I haven't been as consistent with them. I really should pick some up, but I'm honestly not sure which ones to go for anymore. My routine has been taking them for a month and then pausing for two months. I suspect those Visionace vitamins from the UK might be the best option, since they seem to have the widest variety of vitamins and minerals, and they cost about $33.
Roger Phillips5 Roger Phillips5 MemberOP
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joined Sep 2010
#6 ·
mistyjackal842 said:I’m glad you reached out. Honestly, I didn't really have any issues with my vision in that eye—even with my -2.75 Dsph prescription, I can see one hundred percent out of it. The retinal tear was located on the periphery, so it didn't actually affect my sight. It was just that there was this constant risk of that small peripheral detachment spreading, which is why I had to go through with the laser photocoagulation.

Lately, though, I've been getting this pretty intense pain in that eye every now and then, so I suppose I’ll have to head in for a checkup. This wasn't happening last year or even at the start of this year. I was taking eye vitamins back then, but this year I haven't been as consistent with them. I really should pick some up, but I'm honestly not sure which ones to go for anymore. My routine has been taking them for a month and then pausing for two months. I suspect those Visionace vitamins from the UK might be the best option, since they seem to have the widest variety of vitamins and minerals, and they cost about $33.

You seriously need to watch out when it comes to eye pain. Before my CSR even showed up, I dealt with socket pain (like it was right behind the eye) and massive headaches for an entire month... now, I jump at every little twitch or ache in my eye🙂. Some people even claim poor circulation can cause eye issues... since I spend so much time sitting at my computer, I finally had to do something about my neck stiffness. Now I'm constantly badgering my roommates to give me a five-minute massage each, and I'm racking up 😉, but I'm starting aerobics at the end of the month. To make matters worse, my eye has actually gotten worse recently—it's not like the first time, unfortunately. I'm seeing this new spot flashing near my central vision and it drives me absolutely crazy, but there isn't much I can do about it. I bought some OcuGard Plus vitamins from Twinlab and I'm taking them now to see if they help. They are insanely expensive, I was floored—$183 for 120 capsules! But they contain basically everything an eye needs in high doses. You got lucky that your tear was far away from your central vision, thank God.
Roger Phillips5 Roger Phillips5 MemberOP
11 messages
joined Sep 2010
#7 ·
Causes
So, what actually causes Central Serous Retinopathy? Basically, it’s when the layers of your macula detach from their support tissue because fluid leaks from the choroid into the space under the retina. It’s believed this happens because of tiny cracks in the retinal pigment epithelium. Sometimes, CSCR is idiopathic—which is just a fancy way of saying nobody knows why it happened. But honestly? Stress seems to play a massive role here. You always hear people claiming that folks in high-stress jobs, like commercial pilots, get CSCR more often. And yeah, the whole "Type A" personality thing gets thrown around too. But wait—those statistics might be totally misleading! Why? Because CSCR often goes undiagnosed or gets misdiagnosed entirely. Think about it: pilots and Type A personalities are demanding, intense people. They usually have better-than-average vision, so they’ll notice even a slight blur caused by CSCR much faster than the average person and will push hard for a solid diagnosis. On the flip side, someone who already wears glasses might just assume their vision is blurring because their prescription changed and won't even bother seeing an ophthalmologist. These gaps in data really call into question whether CSCR is actually a "Type A" disease or if we're just seeing biased reporting.
There's also a huge link between CSCR and cortisol or corticosteroids. If you have elevated cortisol levels, you're at a higher risk. Cortisol is that hormone your adrenal glands pump out to help you deal with stress, which explains the connection. Plus, there’s evidence that corticosteroids (like cortisone)—which are used everywhere from treating allergies and skin issues to certain eye conditions—can actually trigger CSCR, make it worse, or cause a relapse. For instance, about 5% of people with Cushingov syndrome develop it. Cushingov is characterized by extremely high cortisol levels. More recently, researchers have even found a connection to Helicobacter pylori (look up gastritis). It looks like having this bacteria might be linked to visual acuity issues and other retinal changes after the disease sets in. And get this: latest studies show that patients with Type II MPGN kidney disease can develop retinal abnormalities, including CSCR, caused by deposits that primarily damage the glomerular basement membrane in the kidneys.
Prognosis
The good news? The prognosis for CSCR is actually excellent. Over 90% of patients see their vision return to 20/25 or even better within six months. That said, some visual oddities might stick around even if your vision hits 20/20. Permanent issues could include poor night vision, trouble telling colors apart, or distorted images. Long-term complications can involve subretinal neovascularization or pigment epitheliopathy.

http://www.healthcenter.com/diseases/causes/2/
mistyjackal842 mistyjackal842 Active Member
206 messages
joined May 2012
#8 ·
Roger Phillips5

How are you doing lately? Is everything feeling okay with your eye now? Are you still dealing with those headaches or any pain in the eye?
Roger Phillips5 Roger Phillips5 MemberOP
11 messages
joined Sep 2010
#9 ·
Thanks, things are looking better🙂. I’m still seeing some distortion and flashes in one eye, but it feels like it’s finally starting to recede. It didn't spiral out of control like it did the first time, thank God. And no headaches this time around! About a month ago, I switched up my diet to be loaded with raw fruits and veggies, and honestly, it feels like it's helping my whole body heal, which includes my eyes too. I'd recommend it to anyone dealing with health issues.

How are you doing? Are you still getting those pains in your eye? Did you end up seeing the ophthalmologist?
Alexander Lee87 Alexander Lee87 Newcomer
2 messages
joined Jan 2011
#10 ·
Hey there,

So, I figured I’d jump into this thread and share what’s been going on with me. I’m 27, I don't wear glasses or contacts, and I spend basically my entire life glued to a computer screen. Well, yesterday, I got hit with a diagnosis for this condition in my right eye. It all started about eight days ago—first symptoms were just this weirdly blurry vision, almost like I was looking through water, or like everything right in front of my face was getting doubled up. It hits hardest when I'm working on my laptop, way more than when I'm watching TV, and definitely most intense when I'm indoors. Honestly, if I'm outside, the symptoms chill out a lot or I don't even notice them at all. My head only throbbed for one day at the very beginning, and my eyes were stinging too, but only until I started using some artificial tears. During that first checkup, they caught a -0.5 prescription in my right eye, and that's when I really noticed—once they covered my left eye and had me look with just the left—that everything looked dimmer and even fuzzier than usual.
At my appointment yesterday, they ran an OCT on my right eye and officially diagnosed me with CSR, then handed me a prescription for Trusopt and Diamox.
The doctor mentioned that this mostly shows up in guys between the ages of 20 and 50. They aren't totally sure what triggers it—maybe stress or maybe something related to corticosteroids—but they said it usually clears up within six months, though this medication should help speed things along.
Lately, I've been falling down internet rabbit holes for the last two days, but honestly, everything I find is just the same stuff over and over, pretty much identical to that Wikipedia entry on CSR.

If anyone else here has any extra info on this, or even just a link or some personal stories about what you went through, please drop them below! Thanks so much!

Best,
crimsonpuma10 crimsonpuma10 Newcomer
5 messages
joined Mar 2011
#11 ·
It is hard to believe how few of us there actually are according to what this forum shows... unfortunately. 😢 Well, here I am, one of "you." However, I am not just dealing with CSR; I also suffer from anterior uveitis. I first experienced uveitis back in 2007, and since then, it has flared up frequently—I don't even know the exact number of times. That pattern continued for about a year until recently. At that point, I went to see an ophthalmologist because of my vision issues, but I realized on my own that something else was going on because the symptoms didn't match. That was my first introduction to CSR. After I thought I had recovered, it returned, though I didn't bother seeing the eye doctor because they told me there was no cure for it. It eventually cleared up after five long months, but now, here we go again. I honestly have no idea if a person is simply predisposed to this once it manifests for the first time. The reality is that every single time I’ve gone through some kind of shock or stressful event, CSR follows exactly a week later. 😢 My only real concern is whether my vision will continue to deteriorate if these episodes keep happening. Right now, I’m dealing with blurry and distorted vision in my right eye.
Roger Phillips5 Roger Phillips5 MemberOP
11 messages
joined Sep 2010
#12 ·
I completely lost track of this thread, but here I am again dealing with another episode of CSR🙂. I see a few more "fellow sufferers" have popped up here too. Honestly, I feel so bad that you guys have to go through this. It really looks like stress is the main culprit behind this condition. Just like crimsonpuma10 pointed out, it usually hits right after a period of intense pressure. That was exactly my experience this time—three months of being stressed out over every little thing, and now, boom, it's back in my eye. It seems like we have no choice but to learn how to just chill out, no matter what life throws at us.🤷.
I hadn't even heard of uveitis until now, so I did a little digging on Google. Man, there is so much information out there, but we can't just spiral into a panic. We have to focus on finding ways to actually help ourselves.
I’ve noticed that with this condition, I can't afford to have long crying fits, I can't deal with prolonged stomach issues, and I absolutely cannot let myself fall into massive amounts of stress... those were all major triggers for me. What actually helped me get through recovery? Resting, keeping my head calm, taking short afternoon naps (about 20 minutes), and sticking to a raw food diet.
silentsailor28 silentsailor28 Newcomer
3 messages
joined Jan 2012
#13 ·
Hey everyone, has anyone ever heard of this diagnosis?? If you’ve dealt with something similar, please reach out—I really need to talk to someone... One morning I just woke up and realized the field of vision in my right eye was totally shot, like, super blurry... So I went through the whole gauntlet of tests and everything, but after three months, there's zero improvement. The doctors are basically telling me the condition will just run its course on its own and that there isn't a real cure 🤷as of right now. So, if anyone knows about any alternative options, please let me know... Apparently, a huge number of people are dealing with this exact same thing.

Moderators, please leave this thread up or move it to the right section.
silentsailor28 silentsailor28 Newcomer
3 messages
joined Jan 2012
#14 ·
It’s honestly crazy—nobody seems to be talking about it, yet a massive chunk of young guys out here are dealing with this exact same problem.
Alexander Lee87 Alexander Lee87 Newcomer
2 messages
joined Jan 2011
#15 ·
silentsailor28 said:Hey everyone, has anyone ever heard of this diagnosis?? If you’ve dealt with something similar, please reach out—I really need to talk to someone... One morning I just woke up and realized the field of vision in my right eye was totally shot, like, super blurry... So I went through the whole gauntlet of tests and everything, but after three months, there's zero improvement. The doctors are basically telling me the condition will just run its course on its own and that there isn't a real cure 🤷as of right now. So, if anyone knows about any alternative options, please let me know... Apparently, a huge number of people are dealing with this exact same thing.

Moderators, please leave this thread up or move it to the right section.


Hey,

Let me try to help you out a bit. Like I mentioned in my previous post, I went through the exact same thing about a year ago. Once they diagnosed me with CSR in my right eye, they put me on Trusopt drops and Diamox tablets, and man, in less than a month, I saw massive improvements. I was using the drops maybe two or three times a day, and I took the pills for about a month, I think. After my first follow-up, I stopped the pills and just stuck with the drops for another couple of months until everything cleared up. Every time I went in for a checkup, they did an OCT (which is basically like a high-tech laser scan of your eye), and those colorful scans actually show how the fluid gradually drains out of certain layers of the retina where it had pooled up—that's what was messing with my vision in the first place. Anyway, I'm based over in Washington, D.C., and the specialists who caught it immediately were from Vinogradski Hospital, and honestly, they deserve all the praise in the world. But then, when I went to the ER at Johns Hopkins Hospital, some of the specialists and doctors there actually thought I was making it up or that I wasn't thinking straight! They ran every single live test, drew my blood, kept me waiting for three or four hours, and found absolutely nothing, while those ladies at Vinogradski figured out the actual issue just by dilating my pupils and doing a quick ten-minute exam.

If you have any questions, seriously, just ask, because I’ll be hanging around this forum quite a bit over the next few days.😉

Best,
silentsailor28 silentsailor28 Newcomer
3 messages
joined Jan 2012
#16 ·
So, what am I even supposed to ask? I’ve got the official diagnosis and everything, but honestly... nothing. No improvement at all—not from the drops, not from the pills. Everything they've thrown at me lately has been a total wash... zero results so far.
crimsonpuma10 crimsonpuma10 Newcomer
5 messages
joined Mar 2011
#17 ·
First of all, greetings to everyone on the forum!
In addition to uveitis, I have been diagnosed with central serous retinopathy. I was told that this condition simply resolves on its own, so I haven't been using any eye drops for it. However, I am genuinely interested in understanding the potential long-term consequences of this disease, and I would appreciate it if someone could provide some insight... For me, this issue tends to flare up frequently; it persists for a while, disappears, and then inevitably returns. Initially, I thought I could link this retinopathy to periods of intense stress, but lately, it seems to be happening more often, even though the period of "visual correction" doesn't last nearly as long as it once did—back when it took about five months to clear. I haven't even bothered seeing an ophthalmologist specifically for this because, alongside the uveitis, it was treated as just a secondary issue, and I have never been prescribed any therapy intended to accelerate the recovery process. I have already undergone an OCT, which confirmed the diagnosis. What methods can I use to reduce the frequency of these central serous retinopathy episodes? What should my course of action be? Furthermore, would antidepressants be helpful in this regard (though I am not currently taking anything)?
Nicholas Myers Nicholas Myers Active Member
163 messages
joined Jan 2012
#18 ·
crimsonpuma10 said:First of all, greetings to everyone on the forum!
In addition to uveitis, I have been diagnosed with central serous retinopathy. I was told that this condition simply resolves on its own, so I haven't been using any eye drops for it. However, I am genuinely interested in understanding the potential long-term consequences of this disease, and I would appreciate it if someone could provide some insight... For me, this issue tends to flare up frequently; it persists for a while, disappears, and then inevitably returns. Initially, I thought I could link this retinopathy to periods of intense stress, but lately, it seems to be happening more often, even though the period of "visual correction" doesn't last nearly as long as it once did—back when it took about five months to clear. I haven't even bothered seeing an ophthalmologist specifically for this because, alongside the uveitis, it was treated as just a secondary issue, and I have never been prescribed any therapy intended to accelerate the recovery process. I have already undergone an OCT, which confirmed the diagnosis. What methods can I use to reduce the frequency of these central serous retinopathy episodes? What should my course of action be? Furthermore, would antidepressants be helpful in this regard (though I am not currently taking anything)?

Hello,

I've moved your post to this thread so you can read about others' experiences regarding this specific issue.

Unfortunately, as you can see here, there isn't a definitive solution when dealing with CSR.

When episodes recur, doctors experiment with various treatment approaches. However, research is still ongoing, and published studies haven't reached a consensus on whether current treatments actually work.

It's known that corticosteroids can trigger the condition, much like stress can. Stress spikes cortisol levels, yet the direct link between depression and cortisol remains somewhat murky, with conflicting research results.

Regarding depression, there is no single answer. Some studies suggest that individuals dealing with depression or adjustment disorders face a higher risk of the disease returning.

Given that, it seems logical to address mental health issues if they exist in someone experiencing recurring CSR episodes.

On the flip side, some research indicates that psychotropic medications—including antidepressants—might actually act as a risk factor for developing CSR.

Ultimately, there is no clear-cut answer to your questions or your dilemma.

I would suggest consulting ophthalmologists at Johns Hopkins Hospital or Mercy Hospital. They may be able to provide more specific guidance.

Best regards. 🙂
crimsonpuma10 crimsonpuma10 Newcomer
5 messages
joined Mar 2011
#19 ·
It’s perfectly clear to me now... just a few days ago I had an appointment with my ophthalmologist here in Washington, D.C., and once again she confirmed it’s CSCR, though she claims things are getting "more unique" because she detected signs of uveitis inflammation too. I honestly feel like I am just spinning my wheels in circles. I’m back on corticosteroid drops, I have to undergo more OCT scans... and most likely, none of this is actually going to achieve anything at all. My primary struggle is really this uveitis, since I simply cannot identify the underlying cause... 😢 ...it feels like a cursed vortex that I have no way of escaping...
swiftscout8 swiftscout8 Active Member
87 messages
joined Apr 2007
#20 ·
Look, if it helps at all, you aren't alone. I'm right there with you—same struggles, same symptoms. It took them two whole years just to get a straight answer on what was actually happening with me. I saw a mountain of specialists, and every single one of them gave me the same line: "There’s nothing to see here." Now I've been put on Diamox, and honestly, this diuretic miracle drug doesn't sit well with me. Let's just say the side effects are definitely hitting hard...

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