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What's your favorite metal subgenre?

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Rachel Gray32 Rachel Gray32 Newcomer
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#21 ·
Andrew Martinez11 said:That whole "nu metal" mess that some people try to cram into the metal category—it’s driving the "real" metalheads absolutely insane. They’re all worked up because this nu-trash gets lumped in with actual metal, even though it shares more DNA with the genre than almost anything else... even if it isn't technically metal....

Man, I actually listen to that stuff. 😁

Poor guy... 🙄 😁
Drew Morgan5 Drew Morgan5 Newcomer
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#22 ·
Brandon Castillo4~ said:Honey, what even are you talking about?.....

COF-EPIC BLACK METAL
COB-MELODIC DEATH
SATYRICON-BLACK METAL
VADER-DEATH METAL
IMMORTAL-used to be black metal, but now... ehh... kind of a Black Sabbath vibe.. hehe.

If we’re actually going to talk about this...
Cradle Of Filth - gothic/black metal
The whole term "epic" should really refer to the lyrical themes a band tackles—it shouldn't be used to describe a musical style! I mean, come on, everyone knows what "epic" means—it’s poetry and epics, stuff we all learned back in elementary school—and it reflects the actual lyrics of the song... in the metal scene, people started using it for power metal bands that had those epic stories about knights in colorful armor or holy wars... it's the lyrics, not the music! So many people, even many magazines, constantly misuse these descriptions...
In the case of COF, you could definitely throw "symphonic" in there, since they occasionally use orchestrations, female operatic vocals, and all that...

And Children of Bodom? They are absolutely NOT melodic death metal... seriously, go listen to At the Gates, Dark Tranquillity, In Flames, or Dimension Zero if you want to hear what melodic death metal actually sounds like... COB basically fused power/heavy metal guitar work (just listen to the solos and the riffs on their first two albums!) with a bit of thrashier guitar stuff on the last two (especially on the latest one, "Hate Crew..."). The vocals have that black metal feel, though they lean slightly toward melodic death styles (but only lean—it's definitely not a true death vocal)... most people describe them as black/power metal, which honestly works, but calling them melodic death? Never!
Brandon Castillo4 Brandon Castillo4 Regular
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#23 ·
James Bailey2 said:what a total 🙄 😁

It’s not him, it’s her. Anyway, sending you some love, Damian.😉

🙂
Satyr.
Brandon Castillo4 Brandon Castillo4 Regular
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#24 ·
Drew Morgan5 said:If we’re really going to go there...
Cradle of Filth - gothic/black metal
The term "epic" should refer to the lyrical themes a band tackles, not be used to describe a musical style! Everyone knows what "epic" means—it’s poetry and epics, stuff you learned back in elementary school—and it reflects the songwriting itself. In the metal scene, people started using it for power metal bands that wrote about grand tales, knights in bright armor, or holy wars... it's about the lyrics, not the music. So many people, even in major US music magazines, use the description completely wrong...
In the case of COB, you could throw "symphonic" in there, since they occasionally use orchestration, operatic female vocals, and things like that...

Children of Bodom is absolutely not melodic death metal... listen to At the Gates, Dark Tranquillity, In Flames, or Dimension Zero and then you'll actually hear what melodic death metal sounds like... COB blended power/heavy metal guitar work (just listen to the solos and the actual riffing on their first two albums), though they leaned more into thrashier guitars on their last two (especially on the latest one, "Hate Crew..."). The vocals have a black metal vibe, even if they lean slightly toward melodic death styles (but it's just a hint, it's definitely not a death vocal)... most people describe them as black/power metal, which works fine... melodic death? Not a chance!


Sure, even if many magazines label COF as "Epic symphonic black metal"... I don't listen to COF enough for it to bother me or for me to get too worked up about it. They have a few good albums and a pretty recognizable sound, but I wouldn't call myself a fan. Still, they're a solid band with a strong backing team (management-wise),
and now that they have their own label (ABRACADAVER), they're basically untouchable.😁

As for COB, yeah, I went too far there. Real melodic death is In Flames, At the Gates, and that crowd. I only group COB under melodic death because that's the genre they fit into most closely in terms of their style, their look, and who they tour with.
COB draws from a ton of different influences like power metal, thrash, and so on...
COB CANNOT BE BLACK METAL, because having SOME black metal elements (like the vocals—which sit right on the line between melodic death and black vocals)—the sound and all that—doesn't mean, and CANNOT mean, that they are black metal. No one can pigeonhole COB as "black." It's a bigger mistake to call them black metal than it is to call them melodic death.
😉
Donna Lopez39 Donna Lopez39 Member
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#25 ·
Leonard Nimoy~ said:It’s actually her, not him. Anyway, sending some love your way, Damian.😉

🙂
Satyr.

ooooooo thanks, thanks! 😉 😁

Best regards to you, young man. 🙂
Donna Lopez39 Donna Lopez39 Member
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#26 ·
James Bailey2 said:man, you're such a 🙄 😁

i didn't even say anything... 😢

you're the pathetic one here 😛
Kevin Chavez3 Kevin Chavez3 Veteran
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#27 ·
I'm honestly getting tired of this constant bashing directed at nu-metal. Personally, I think those first two Korn albums—and even the next couple—are fantastic. They’d probably be considered masterpieces by much more people if they hadn't become so mainstream. It's just senseless...

like Ramones - She's a Sensation
Rachel Gray32 Rachel Gray32 Newcomer
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#28 ·
Andrew Martinez11 said:i didn't even... 😢

you're pathetic... 😛

I'm not an "he," I'm a "she"...😛
A Anonymous Veteran
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#29 ·
1. classic thrash
2. heavy

short and sweet 😛 🙂
A Anonymous Veteran
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#30 ·
Andrew Martinez11 said:I don't know anything about it... 😢

Man, you're pathetic. 😛

"Guys," you seriously messed up the gender balance here... 😁 😁
silentpuma9 silentpuma9 Member
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#31 ·
Melodic Death Metal
feralstag11 feralstag11 Member
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#32 ·
Drew Morgan5 said:If we’re going to be pedantic about this...
Cradle of Filth - gothic/Black Metal
The term "epic" describes the lyrical content, not the musical genre itself. Everyone knows what an epic is—it's literature, something you learned back in middle school. It reflects the storytelling in the lyrics. In the metal scene, people started using it to describe Power Metal bands with grand themes, like knights in colorful armor or holy wars... it's about the words, not the riffs. Too many people, even in many magazines, get this wrong.
In the case of COB, you could throw "symphonic" in there, since they occasionally use orchestration and operatic female vocals.

Children of Bodom is absolutely not Melodic Death Metal. Go listen to At the Gates, Dark Tranquillity, In Flames, or Dimension Zero if you actually want to hear what Melodic Death Metal sounds like. COB basically blended Power/Heavy Metal guitar work—just listen to the solos and the rhythm tracks on their first two albums—with a bit of Thrash influence on the last two (especially on that "Hate Crew..." record). The vocals have a Black Metal vibe, though they lean slightly toward Melodic Death styles, but it's not true death vocals. Most people label them as Black/Power metal, which isn't wrong. But Melodic Death? Not a chance.


Ugh... this guy knows everything.
shadowpanther7 shadowpanther7 Newcomer
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#33 ·
Megadeth
Children of Bodom
In Flames
Nightwish

Honestly, if you aren't picking those guys, I don't know what to tell you. They're easily the best.

WELL, OBVIOUSLY:

PENTAGRAM
or maybe even
MEZARKABUL
dustybadger3 dustybadger3 NewcomerOP
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joined Mar 2003
#34 ·
shadowpanther7 said:Megadeth
Children of Bodom
In Flames
Nightwish

but honestly, whoever you pick—they're all heavy hitters.

WELL OBVIOUSLY:

PENTAGRAM
or maybe
Mezarkabul

The question is which metal subgenre is your favorite—not which band.
dustybadger3 dustybadger3 NewcomerOP
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#35 ·
LeningradRevenger said:None of those three. Power metal... "warriors returning to the streets"... you know the vibe—it’s basically just hype music for kids.

You missed it—I actually laid out my picks in my first post.
Feel free to share yours, though.
Donna Lopez39 Donna Lopez39 Member
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#36 ·
TeenSpirit said:"guys," you guys totally lost the plot... 😁 😁

like....TOTALLY... 😁
Harold King54 Harold King54 Member
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#37 ·
dustybadger3 said:What's your go-to metal subgenre?

ROCK N' ROLL, BABY!! 😎 👍
crimsonbear23 crimsonbear23 Member
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#38 ·
Personally, I’m not much of a metalhead myself, but I’ve always had a soft spot for the subculture... especially those guys who hang out down at the local dive bars in Seattle.😁
crimsonbear23 crimsonbear23 Member
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#39 ·
Harold King54 said:ROCK N ROLL, BABY!! 😎 👍

👍
ruggedhawk80 ruggedhawk80 Active Member
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joined Jan 2003
#40 ·
Thrash Metal
Grind

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