Diaspora Moderator - Ironing Man

frozenseal55 said:Honestly, I think that’s a brilliant idea.🙂>

I don't think we need a dedicated subforum—I mean, who would actually post there? 😕
Most of us are already losing our minds over the thousandth identical question. We don't even need special threads; everything can be handled in the existing ones (po zemlja).
To me, the priority should be educating new users—it’s on them to adapt. They should look at the Diaspora as if it were a foreign country they need to integrate into! 😍

Charles Davis88 said:Here’s how I see it: Steven Ruiz was actually the most chill mod—reasonable vocabulary, kept things civil.
You guys gave her a hard time. Then ambermason16 stepped up with a more authoritative vibe (though not aggressive, unlike certain users here!), all in an attempt to establish some order since apparently Steven Ruiz's approach "wasn't working."

I think we're all being a bit too sensitive. We shouldn't take Reddit this seriously; nobody ever died from a cardboard cutout.
And if the rules state that moderator actions shouldn't be debated based on who's having a bad day, then maybe we could put that extra "effort" toward complaining where it actually matters. Whining and jumping down a mod's throat over every single move isn't productive for any subforum. For what it's worth, I was offered the chance to moderate the Diaspora section twice in the last three years, and both times I decided that taking on such an ungrateful job would be like shooting myself in the foot.

I don't see what ambermason16 did that was so terrible to warrant this much instant resentment. If my memory serves, some people decided right out of the gate that she couldn't be a mod because she's "unknown," doesn't live in the Diaspora, or "moderates Television." They never gave her a fair shake—just shut her down immediately.

Anyway, that's just my perspective as a user who rarely has issues with mods or the community in general.

Maybe ambermason16 should take a page out of Skette's book and actually study how they tackle problems before trying to apply it to their own mess.
Look, someone needs to step up and join this debate. Let's just clear the air, sweep all this unaddressed nonsense under the rug, and finally get a fresh start. 🤷

Charles Davis88 said:I don't think we need a dedicated subforum—I mean, who would actually post there? 😕
Most of us are already losing our minds over the thousandth identical question. We don't even need special threads; everything can be handled in the existing ones (po zemlja).
To me, the priority should be educating new users—it’s on them to adapt. They should look at the Diaspora as if it were a foreign country they need to integrate into! 😍

That’s exactly why I think it’s a brilliant idea. Let them have one dedicated thread where they can post the exact same questions a million times over. If some user wants to be the hero—answering those same questions repeatedly, writing entire essays, and dropping links just to be helpful—then fine, let them go for it. But for everyone else who doesn't want to deal with that repetitive nonsense? They can just give that thread a wide berth and move on with their lives in peace.
Look, I’ve noticed there’s a group of "newbies" drifting through here who seem to have one single question stuck on loop. They post the exact same thing under every single thread, regardless of the topic. If we don't address their little inquiry in the thread about the US, they'll just turn around and dump the same damn question in discussions about Kuwait or New Zealand. It’s repetitive and honestly, it's getting old. 🙄 )

frozenseal55 said:Maybe ambermason16 should take a page out of Skette's book and actually study how they tackle problems before trying to apply it to their own mess.
Look, someone needs to step up and join this debate. Let's just clear the air, sweep all this unaddressed nonsense under the rug, and finally get a fresh start. 🤷

And just how exactly does Skatte handle things??
They politely and civilly ask people to stop acting like idiots.
And then what?? Does that magically mean the nonsense stops, or does it just mean someone actually understands that being a complete jerk isn't exactly a great look??

hollowtrucker77 said:And just how exactly does Skatte handle things??
They politely and civilly ask people to stop acting like idiots.
And then what?? Does that magically mean the nonsense stops, or does it just mean someone actually understands that being a complete jerk isn't exactly a great look??

How does she handle it? Like a normal person.
She communicates like a regular human being instead of acting like she’s sitting on some high throne with a divine mandate to "discipline" a rowdy mob... and sure, she deletes posts and shares warnings, but nobody calls her out for it either. Why? Because she acts—normal.

Someone mentioned that ambermason16 was welcomed with open arms, but honestly, I think that’s a massive stretch. First off, when the news broke that we were getting her as a mod, most of us hadn't even heard of her. We don't sit around watching cable news all day, and she wasn't exactly a household name here either. Of course people are going to be confused about who she even is. I mean, if I suddenly became a moderator for Formula 1 without ever having watched a single race, 😁 you can bet they'd be looking at me like, "Who is this person and what are they even doing here?" 😁 And then there's this whole thing about her being part of the Diaspora. Honestly, that's the least of anyone's concerns if they actually have half a brain. It shouldn't matter where she lives. It's like how people talk about what folks living outside the US are posting on political forums—I know plenty of people doing exactly that. If anything, having a mod based in Washington, D.C. is an advantage because they can actually compare notes on what's happening back in the home country. Even the fact that she took a few days to introduce herself isn't a big deal. The real issue is that she came in swinging from day one, already throwing around threats of bans and warnings on the very first thread. I remember it clearly. Someone makes a joke, she snaps back and threatens them with a ban. That was the pattern—I didn't follow every single thread, but... yeah, she managed to rub people the wrong way right out of the gate. I don't know if that's just her general vibe or if it was just limited to that specific PDF. Because Skattemus is actually a perfectly normal, likable woman whom we've all known for ages, both from that PDF and others. And look, she's fine; no complaints there. She handles things, sends PMs to tell people to chill out, hands out warnings, etc...

And seriously, the Diaspora is such a diverse group on that PDF. We've got people from every corner of the globe—young kids, old-timers, people just starting out, and people with decades of life experience under their belts who have lived on multiple continents... wherever else could you find that? The Diaspora isn't just some niche group worrying about how to get a work permit in, say, Canada. You guys have no idea how much goes into managing a community like that...

mistyhound2 said:Someone mentioned that ambermason16 was welcomed with open arms, but honestly, I think that’s a massive stretch. First off, when the news broke that we were getting her as a mod, most of us hadn't even heard of her. We don't sit around watching cable news all day, and she wasn't exactly a household name here either. Of course people are going to be confused about who she even is. I mean, if I suddenly became a moderator for Formula 1 without ever having watched a single race, 😁 you can bet they'd be looking at me like, "Who is this person and what are they even doing here?" 😁 And then there's this whole thing about her being part of the Diaspora. Honestly, that's the least of anyone's concerns if they actually have half a brain. It shouldn't matter where she lives. It's like how people talk about what folks living outside the US are posting on political forums—I know plenty of people doing exactly that. If anything, having a mod based in Washington, D.C. is an advantage because they can actually compare notes on what's happening back in the home country. Even the fact that she took a few days to introduce herself isn't a big deal. The real issue is that she came in swinging from day one, already throwing around threats of bans and warnings on the very first thread. I remember it clearly. Someone makes a joke, she snaps back and threatens them with a ban. That was the pattern—I didn't follow every single thread, but... yeah, she managed to rub people the wrong way right out of the gate. I don't know if that's just her general vibe or if it was just limited to that specific PDF. Because Skattemus is actually a perfectly normal, likable woman whom we've all known for ages, both from that PDF and others. And look, she's fine; no complaints there. She handles things, sends PMs to tell people to chill out, hands out warnings, etc...

And seriously, the Diaspora is such a diverse group on that PDF. We've got people from every corner of the globe—young kids, old-timers, people just starting out, and people with decades of life experience under their belts who have lived on multiple continents... wherever else could you find that? The Diaspora isn't just some niche group worrying about how to get a work permit in, say, Canada. You guys have no idea how much goes into managing a community like that...

http://www.reddit.com/showthread.php?t...u+moderatoricu

By the way, this whole circus is getting old—it's exhausting for everyone involved. Does anyone else besides you three have an actual opinion here? Are you finally going to provide one concrete example, or are you just going to keep feeding off each other's nonsense indefinitely?🍿

ambermason16 said:http://www.reddit.com/showthread.php?t...u+moderatoricu

By the way, this whole circus is getting old—it's exhausting for everyone involved. Does anyone else besides you three have an actual opinion here? Are you finally going to provide one concrete example, or are you just going to keep feeding off each other's nonsense indefinitely?🍿

👎 Classic you. 👎 And then you wonder why nobody likes you. It's honestly pathetic. 👎

Examples are everywhere, it's just that you clearly can't see them. ☕

mistyhound2 for moderator!

Ashley Rogers4 said:mistyhound2 for moderator!

Don't mess with me, Ashley Rogers4! Seriously, I wouldn't touch being a moderator on this site with a ten-foot pole, even if someone actually tried to pay me. ☕ I'm not even touching that PDF until I see some other name listed next to Skattemus. Until then? Honestly, just hold your ground and don't let anyone grind you down. 🙂

ambermason16 said:http://www.reddit.com/showthread.php?t...u+moderatoricu

By the way, this whole circus is getting old—it's exhausting for everyone involved. Does anyone else besides you three have an actual opinion here? Are you finally going to provide one concrete example, or are you just going to keep feeding off each other's nonsense indefinitely?🍿

You’re definitely consistent in one regard: pure arrogance. It’s pretty obvious from both the link and this comment right here. 👎

Finding specific examples isn't exactly easy, which is why I already mentioned that posts were being deleted.

And don't go assuming that people are bored with this—you have no way of knowing that—let alone God.

coppernomad28 said:You’re definitely consistent in one regard: pure arrogance. It’s pretty obvious from both the link and this comment right here. 👎

Finding specific examples isn't exactly easy, which is why I already mentioned that posts were being deleted.

And don't go assuming that people are bored with this—you have no way of knowing that—let alone God.

That doesn't mean we can't see them. At least give me some links to the threads where ambermason16 was deleting those "so wonderful" posts so I can actually take a look.

edit: until I get those links any more stupid posts that don't include links to where the controversial stuff used to be will be getting deleted. Sash already said he doesn't see anything problematic, so I'll check too just so we follow the rules and can finally wrap up this whole theater of the absurd.

mellowraven22, if you want a real look at what's going on, go talk to the Diaspora. It’s obvious the admins couldn't care less about how things are moderated as long as they have free labor to do the dirty work—which, let's be honest, is pretty standard practice.

By the way, dragging trolls or "heroes" into this debate is completely irrelevant. We all know when the users are the issue, but here we're talking about incompetent moderators who refuse to admit they aren't cut out for the job. They should just step down, start their own blogs, and do whatever they want there. At least then they could be honest with themselves and the rest of the world.

This forum is a mirror of America, and while I get why one certain jerk won't give up his position for obvious reasons (love), I don't get why some incompetent mods keep clinging to their roles. Don't tell me you're actually getting paid for this level of incompetence? 😁

cheers

mellowraven22 said:That doesn't mean we can't see them. At least give me some links to the threads where ambermason16 was deleting those "so wonderful" posts so I can actually take a look.

edit: until I get those links any more stupid posts that don't include links to where the controversial stuff used to be will be getting deleted. Sash already said he doesn't see anything problematic, so I'll check too just so we follow the rules and can finally wrap up this whole theater of the absurd.

If you haven't read it yet, I literally dropped a specific example right here:
http://reddit.com/showpost.php?p=28058556&postcount=73

And here’s the famous link to the page itself: http://reddit.com/showthread.php?p=28030141#post28030141

Now, whether my posts actually matter—whether they're literary masterpieces, vital life info, or whatever—it doesn't even matter. They were written in a chat topic as a response to Xeix-ov's post. I wrote the exact same reply twice, and both times it got wiped without an explanation, a DM, or even a warning. I've had other posts commented on by her moderation, and I still have no clue why they vanished.

There, that's the quickest example I could grab. Is that concrete enough for you?!

And if you, the esteemed administrators, actually have access to the deleted logs, then finding ambermason16's work should be easy enough.

coppernomad28 said:If you haven't read it yet, I literally dropped a specific example right here:
http://reddit.com/showpost.php?p=28058556&postcount=73

And here’s the famous link to the page itself: http://reddit.com/showthread.php?p=28030141#post28030141

Now, whether my posts actually matter—whether they're literary masterpieces, vital life info, or whatever—it doesn't even matter. They were written in a chat topic as a response to Xeix-ov's post. I wrote the exact same reply twice, and both times it got wiped without an explanation, a DM, or even a warning. I've had other posts commented on by her moderation, and I still have no clue why they vanished.

There, that's the quickest example I could grab. Is that concrete enough for you?!

And if you, the esteemed administrators, actually have access to the deleted logs, then finding ambermason16's work should be easy enough.

Just readit. 🙂

http://reddit.com/showpost.php?p=28058556&postcount=73

And yeah, here's that famous link to the page: http://reddit.com/showthread.php?p=28030141#post28030141

Alright, I checked it out—and honestly, I don't see anything wrong with it, except that ambermason16 was just deleting useless whining against her moderation team and all that general complaining about how unfair the mods, the site, and the whole universe are.

Look, whether my posts actually matter or not—like, if they're literary masterpieces, vital life info, or whatever—it doesn't even matter. They were written in a chat topic as a reply to Xeix-ov's post. I wrote the exact same response twice, and both times it got deleted without any explanation, no PM, and no warning. I wrote other stuff that her mods commented on too, and I still can't figure out why those got wiped.

A chat topic isn't a free pass to just whine endlessly. If someone deletes your post and you just post the same thing again, I really think it's messed up that the moderator didn't give you a warning. Yeah, she overstepped a bit there and should've given you a strike.

To wrap this up—the appeal is baseless. ambermason16 didn't do anything wrong, other than being way too soft on you guys and failing to issue strikes or bans when you definitely deserved them. Hopefully, she won't be so lenient from now on.

Honestly, I love this example... I’m asking the admins to please go through the entire thread and review EVERY single deleted post.

By the way, just because something of yours was wiped without being officially sanctioned doesn't mean you're in the clear—it just means I decided to look the other way. Though, frankly, looking at your track record, I'm not even sure why I bothered... 😁

Edit: Looks like I missed the boat on that one... and my thanks to the admins.

EOD