Overdose on pills

Angela Wright said:Call 911, right now! This could be extremely serious because she wasn't prescribed this medication, so there is zero way to know if it's even safe for her body type or condition.

Honestly, what that relative did is basically a criminal act involving the distribution of controlled substances. Tramadol is a heavy-duty opioid that requires a prescription for a reason. Messing around with that kind of stuff is a serious offense that can land someone in prison.

Oh, please, stop freaking out. Tramadol isn't even close to being some massive, heavy-duty opioid; it just happens to hit those opioid receptors, blah, blah, blah...
Mom just got a little too relaxed, and once she starts coming down from it, she'll be just fine. 😁

Susan King6 said:Oh, please, stop freaking out. Tramadol isn't even close to being some massive, heavy-duty opioid; it just happens to hit those opioid receptors, blah, blah, blah...
Mom just got a little too relaxed, and once she starts coming down from it, she'll be just fine. 😁

I don't know. 😁 She's just being stubborn. Won't listen to a word I say. 😁
She'll feel better eventually. It’s just going to take some time before things actually start looking up.
Honestly, I just hopped on here hoping it might make things feel a little easier. XD

Susan King6 said:Oh, please, stop freaking out. Tramadol isn't even close to being some massive, heavy-duty opioid; it just happens to hit those opioid receptors, blah, blah, blah...
Mom just got a little too relaxed, and once she starts coming down from it, she'll be just fine. 😁

So, here’s the deal with Tramadol. It’s basically a synthetic analog of those phenanthrene alkaloids like codeine—which makes it an opioid and a sedative, plain and simple. Just like how codeine eventually metabolizes into morphine, Tramadol converts into M-1 (or O-desmethyltramadol), which is where things get interesting... and by interesting, I mean messy. It definitely carries its own baggage of side effects: dizziness, nausea, vomiting, that heavy drowsiness... you know the drill. And honestly? You can just take two 150mg or 200mg tablets during the day if you really have to, though I wouldn't exactly recommend it as a lifestyle choice.
I honestly don't think anything terrible is actually going to happen to her. At the end of the day, we're talking about an analgesic specifically designed to tackle moderate to severe pain—it’s mostly used in neurology for a reason. But, let's be real... I still feel like it is incredibly irresponsible to just hand your own medication over to someone else. It's just reckless, really.
Look, I’m telling you, if things keep going that way, we’re looking at some seriously massive problems. Like, genuinely huge issues. It's just one of those situations where everything could go sideways in a heartbeat.

Frank Booth9 said:I don't know. 😁 She's just being stubborn. Won't listen to a word I say. 😁
She'll feel better eventually. It’s just going to take some time before things actually start looking up.
Honestly, I just hopped on here hoping it might make things feel a little easier. XD

Hopefully she starts feeling better soon. Honestly, I was in a similar boat—it hit me like a freight train after the very first dose. I tried taking one of those, but I just couldn't stomach using them anymore. My doctor ended up switching things up and prescribed me Zaldiar instead.
The main thing right now is just to keep the fluids up—stay hydrated, seriously—and take it easy. You really want to play it safe because the side effects can be pretty brutal, and honestly, they might hit you harder than expected. If things don't start looking up or if you feel like you're spiraling, there's absolutely no shame in just calling 911 or heading to the ER. Better safe than sorry, right?
All the best.

Susan King6 said:Oh, please, stop freaking out. Tramadol isn't even close to being some massive, heavy-duty opioid; it just happens to hit those opioid receptors, blah, blah, blah...
Mom just got a little too relaxed, and once she starts coming down from it, she'll be just fine. 😁

Don't be rude or disrespectful.☕
It’s pretty obvious you've played doctor a few times if you're acting this informed, buddy. But since this woman took a dose like that for the first time without any medical supervision, nobody is more qualified to predict the fallout than an actual doctor. For some people, even a tiny dose can cause heart failure.
People love to self-medicate and act like they know everything, waving their hands around like experts.

Angela Wright said:Don't be rude or disrespectful.☕
It’s pretty obvious you've played doctor a few times if you're acting this informed, buddy. But since this woman took a dose like that for the first time without any medical supervision, nobody is more qualified to predict the fallout than an actual doctor. For some people, even a tiny dose can cause heart failure.
People love to self-medicate and act like they know everything, waving their hands around like experts.

Oh, please. You’re always jumping straight to the absolute worst-case scenario, which is statistically about a zero percent chance of happening. I mean, if her heart was actually that weak, she would've collapsed the second she tried to run for a bus or a subway without any Tramadol in her system anyway.

Her heart isn't going to fail her. Sure, she had kidney issues and maybe she's dealing with stones right now, but she'll get through it. And she definitely won't be popping pills like that ever again. I hate seeing people do that. It just makes me wonder how much pain she actually was in to reach for those tablets, especially since nothing else—not even creams or other meds—was touching the pain. This won't happen again. In my opinion, it was just too much at once. A single massive dose caught up to her.

Susan King6 said:Oh, please. You’re always jumping straight to the absolute worst-case scenario, which is statistically about a zero percent chance of happening. I mean, if her heart was actually that weak, she would've collapsed the second she tried to run for a bus or a subway without any Tramadol in her system anyway.

I’m not "choosing" the worst-case scenario; I’m just looking at how life actually works. The difference between us is that I recognize reality while you’re still playing pretend. Let’s be real: we don't control everything in this life, which is exactly why we have to manage the variables we *can* control and prevent the disasters we see coming. That's just common sense.
But then again, that kind of foresight usually comes with actual maturity. Unfortunately, some people never quite reach that stage.

@Frank Booth9
It sounds like your mom is dealing with chronic pain here. The smartest move is to have her primary care doctor get her a referral to an anesthesiologist. They can dial in the exact medications and dosages needed to actually neutralize that pain properly.

Angela Wright said:I’m not "choosing" the worst-case scenario; I’m just looking at how life actually works. The difference between us is that I recognize reality while you’re still playing pretend. Let’s be real: we don't control everything in this life, which is exactly why we have to manage the variables we *can* control and prevent the disasters we see coming. That's just common sense.
But then again, that kind of foresight usually comes with actual maturity. Unfortunately, some people never quite reach that stage.

@Frank Booth9
It sounds like your mom is dealing with chronic pain here. The smartest move is to have her primary care doctor get her a referral to an anesthesiologist. They can dial in the exact medications and dosages needed to actually neutralize that pain properly.

Thanks for the advice 😁
Yeah, she even took some because her PCP won't prescribe anything stronger. But that's a whole other issue. The guy honestly doesn't seem to care about his patients at all.

Frank Booth9 said:Thanks for the advice 😁
Yeah, she even took some because her PCP won't prescribe anything stronger. But that's a whole other issue. The guy honestly doesn't seem to care about his patients at all.

A GP isn't qualified to be handing out heavy-duty meds. You need to ask for a referral to a pain management specialist. If they give you the runaround, file a complaint here:http://www.hhs.gov/complaints

I agree with Angela Wright that seeking medical attention at an urgent care clinic or hospital—specifically seeing an anesthesiologist—is necessary for managing pain. If the issue involves back pain, a peripheral nerve block might be an option to reduce the reliance on analgesics, or at least help stabilize the medication regimen...
Regarding this situation, I find myself agreeing once again with Angela Wright that you should have sought professional medical help. I don't mean to diminish anyone's expertise, but even a pharmacist isn't trained for these specific clinical scenarios; this is a matter of medicine rather than pharmacy. While they may seem similar to a layperson, they are two distinct fields of study designed for different purposes. That said, based on what you've described, this doesn't appear to be a life-threatening emergency. Ensure she stays well-hydrated, avoid giving her any sedatives or extra painkillers aside from Tylenol if absolutely necessary. If you have a blood pressure monitor handy, please check her levels. And again, prioritize plenty of fluids...

Sam Hall15 said:I agree with Angela Wright that seeking medical attention at an urgent care clinic or hospital—specifically seeing an anesthesiologist—is necessary for managing pain. If the issue involves back pain, a peripheral nerve block might be an option to reduce the reliance on analgesics, or at least help stabilize the medication regimen...
Regarding this situation, I find myself agreeing once again with Angela Wright that you should have sought professional medical help. I don't mean to diminish anyone's expertise, but even a pharmacist isn't trained for these specific clinical scenarios; this is a matter of medicine rather than pharmacy. While they may seem similar to a layperson, they are two distinct fields of study designed for different purposes. That said, based on what you've described, this doesn't appear to be a life-threatening emergency. Ensure she stays well-hydrated, avoid giving her any sedatives or extra painkillers aside from Tylenol if absolutely necessary. If you have a blood pressure monitor handy, please check her levels. And again, prioritize plenty of fluids...

You don't need to call me "ma'am," I'm still young.😁 I'm new to all of this and just finished high school, so most of this is pretty new to me. I still have a lot to learn... 😁
She barely drank anything because she was nauseous and vomiting. She wouldn't drink, and she won't listen to me. It would have been much easier on her if she had just stayed hydrated, but she’ll learn her lesson now. She’s back to her old ways, and she won't be doing this again. My cousin got exactly what he deserved.

off topic:
I know the majors are different. I'm torn between med school and pharmacy. Both interest me equally, but I feel like after finishing med school, I'll be able to apply more than if I went the pharmacy route. So, I'm leaning toward medicine, but we'll see...

You will still be able to apply what you have learned, though the specific lessons will differ... 😉

Sam Hall15 said:You will still be able to apply what you have learned, though the specific lessons will differ... 😉

I'm not so sure about that. 🙂The master's degree holders I work with keep complaining they're wasting their brains because there's nowhere to actually apply their expertise. Everything basically boils down to retail...

Their approach to patient care essentially boils down to sales tactics and pushing specific OTC medications. Of course, they could choose to engage more deeply if they found their work fulfilling, but that doesn't involve the level of direct human connection you find with a medical doctor.

Hey,

I’ve got this brutal toothache. I took one Zaldiar this morning—which, by the way, isn't even doing much—and then spent the day taking four half-doses of Voltaren ER. To top it all off, about thirty minutes ago, I popped an Excedrin because nothing else was touching the pain. Now, I have this nagging feeling that the whole cocktail is starting to hit me at once..

I'm feeling some pressure in my chest... my breathing feels a bit shallow, and there's this sharp, stabbing sensation on both the left and right sides of my stomach area. It's nothing catastrophic, just this heavy, oppressive weight hanging over me..

Was that a bad combination of meds? Should I be worried?

I tweaked the title a bit for you.


WARNING TO EVERYONE:

We aren't going to turn this thread into a discussion about overdose methods or specific dosages required to end it all. If someone is looking to take their own life, they’ll have to go put in the effort to find those details somewhere else.

Just saying so nobody can claim they "didn't know" if someone gets banned for posting stuff like that. 😁

Anyway, back to the topic. These pills are pretty heavy. I did a little Googling, and from what I can tell, they aren't even in the same drug class—unless someone wants to correct me—though both Zaldiar and Excedrin contain Tylenol. Honestly, I doubt you could overdose on that much in a single day. During my period, I'm throwing up a 500mg Tylenol every few hours just to cope.

I have no idea how many of these you're allowed to mix, but my advice? Go to the ER if you start feeling weird or if things get worse. As for your stomach, it's nothing surprising; those meds are notorious for wrecking your stomach lining. My stomach is already a mess, and Tylenol is the only thing I can take without issues. Everything else absolutely trashes my gut.

I completely agree—if those pains don't start letting up soon, you really ought to head to the emergency room.

Try taking some Nalgesin! It was a total lifesaver for me when I had my wisdom teeth pulled!

The pain isn't really there... I felt a slight twinge in my stomach area twice, and a bit of pressure on the left side of my abdomen, but I don't think it's anything significant..

What’s actually worrying me is this sensation of pressure around my lungs and heart.. My heart feels like it's fluttering here and there.. though, to be fair, that always seems to happen whenever I take these pills..

I mean, looking at the total dosage throughout the day, is it even possible for a young, healthy person to overdose? I was genuinely worried that maybe combining these specific tablets was a bad idea..

Harold Chavez3 said:Hey,

I’ve got this brutal toothache. I took one Zaldiar this morning—which, by the way, isn't even doing much—and then spent the day taking four half-doses of Voltaren ER. To top it all off, about thirty minutes ago, I popped an Excedrin because nothing else was touching the pain. Now, I have this nagging feeling that the whole cocktail is starting to hit me at once..

I'm feeling some pressure in my chest... my breathing feels a bit shallow, and there's this sharp, stabbing sensation on both the left and right sides of my stomach area. It's nothing catastrophic, just this heavy, oppressive weight hanging over me..

Was that a bad combination of meds? Should I be worried?

Taking this specific combination of drugs in such a short window is basically playing Russian roulette with your own health. It's incredibly reckless.
By taking 4 and a half Voltaren ER pills (assuming we're talking 100mg tablets), you've way exceeded the recommended daily dose of diclofenac. This kind of combo can do serious damage, so it makes total sense to check in with a doctor ASAP (usually the packaging lists the max daily dose, which I'm sure you saw).
And honestly, adding Nalgesin on top of everything else you've already swallowed today? You might as well call that a direct assault on your stomach, kidneys, and maybe even your heart and a few other vital systems.