ruggedhawk20 said:They were being loud as hell even before this—you could barely hear anything over the engines
Look, Formula 1 existed way before 2014 too
If that’s how they’re actually driving... then how on earth can you say they aren't living on the edge?
Is he even driving with any guts?
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Jason Campbell70 said:Five years ago, they could. Now, all of a sudden, they can't. Why the change?
Just think back to the '96 Spanish GP.
Or maybe both Monaco races in the same year?
Belgium, '98.
The 2007 Japanese GP.
With today’s mindless rules, would we even be holding these races anymore?
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I can still see all those races playing back in my head... and honestly, the one thing that truly sets them apart is just how much water is sitting on the track. It doesn't actually matter how hard it's pouring if:
There isn't a stream crossing over the track.
It looks like we've got two cars out there absolutely shredding their tires—just constant sliding all over the track.
They just aren't willing to take those kinds of risks like they did back at Spa in '98—not if it means dealing with those massive pile-ups again.
Let’s be honest—the rubber our current supplier is putting on the table right now? It’s absolute garbage. I think we can all pretty much agree on that, can't we?
And let’s not forget how they used to handle those cars back when traction control was still a thing—it's a completely different world now. They just don't drive like that anymore. These modern cars? They aren't forgiving. Not even close. Back in the day, the older machinery gave you a bit of a grace period, but today, if you make one tiny mistake, the car will punish you instantly. No second chances.
Throw it all into a blender, and you get exactly what we’re looking at right now. Honestly, I feel like we're still just sitting around waiting for that one rainy race—you know, the kind where traction control is off the table and they actually have to deal with a massive surge of torque. It’ll be interesting to see who holds it together and who ends up looking absolutely ridiculous out there when things get messy.
darkmarlin16 said:Honestly, the asphalt zones even end up rewarding mistakes sometimes. Just look at La Source, or how they messed up at Blanchimont, though I guess you could forgive them there since it's such an insanely fast part of the track.
We need a middle ground here.
They should put about 5 meters of gravel around the track, and then after that, they can pave it.
Basically, just surround the circuit with a minimum 5-meter ring of gravel.
A few millimeters of low pressure doesn't actually mean much in this context... honestly, if you could get the surface to feel more like what we see at a track like Sonoma, that would be the sweet spot. You’d probably end up flying right off the asphalt, but hey, is that really what you're looking for?
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stormybadger8 said:Basically, the issue is that every single attempt at a gutsy overtake gets slapped with a penalty. Whether the move was actually clean or just a complete momentary lapse in judgment, the result is pretty much the same...
Under the guise of "safety," they’re overregulating everything, which has basically killed off any actual racing. It’s not about making the cars safer; it's about rules that kill the spirit of competition in the name of safety, forcing drivers to either dive down the pit lane or wait for the DRS zone just to get past someone...
As for cars flying off track, that’s an easy fix.😁
If a driver goes wide, the team should just get an automatic software command that limits their fuel flow to 25/50/75% for the next few seconds, or maybe forces them to run at 90% fuel flow for the entire following lap.🤣
Since they already have the tech to mess with them using all these different software schemes, why not use it to hand out penalties?😁
I have to disagree there... just look at what happened with MS and those excursions through Rascasse a few years back... or those times we saw them going wide at the Hairpin...
And remember, just a few years ago, we only ever saw people going off at St. Devote or right as they were exiting the Tunnel...
And all of this happens on a track that offers almost zero chance for overtaking! I honestly think some people have become a bit spoiled—you don't seem to realize what it actually means to overtake when you're driving modern F1 cars that are essentially identical in performance...
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